Same-sex couples must be heard in JR, says NPO

| 20/10/2021 | 94 Comments

(CNS): The lives of more than 40, mostly same-sex couples and their children will be “severely disrupted” if a judicial review of the governor’s use of his constitutional power to push through the Civil Partnership Law was to succeed and as a result they need to be heard, a lawyer argued Tuesday.

Alex Potts QC is representing Colours Caribbean in an application for the LGBTQ advocates to be allowed to take part in a legal case brought by a Christian group challenging the legality of how Governor Martyn Roper passed the law after Parliament had voted it down. The impact on civil partners should be considered alongside the constitutional question through written and oral evidence, Potts argued.

Neither the governor’s office nor the plaintiff, Kattina Anglin, who represents the non-profit group Christian Association for Civics, are objecting to the idea of Colours being allowed to intervene in the case, so the judge will more than likely allow them to take part in the trial set for December. But the extent of that intervention is where the disagreement lies.

Hugh Southey QC, who is representing Anglin, argued that the introduction of the details of how couples will be impacted would be prejudicial and would require the judge to speculate. He argued that if the court finds that the governor did not have the power to make the law when he did then it must be quashed, regardless of the impact on those couples. He said the couples will have different remedies open to them to challenge the government themselves for the consequences but the judge does not need to hear their individual stories.

Anglin is claiming that the case is a constitutional one. It is based on the fact that Governor Martyn Roper invoked his powers under section 81 of the Cayman Islands Constitution to pass the legislation to create civil partnerships after the controversial failure of the then Legislative Assembly to pass the law, as required by a directive of the Court of Appeal. The governor’s decision was unlawful because he does not have the power to enact this type of domestic legislation under that section of the Constitution, Anglin argues.

Colours Caribbean is arguing that their intervention and their ability to advocate for same-sex couples in this case is fundamental, and the arguments of whether or not section 81 was the right tool to implement this legislation cannot be heard in isolation from its impact on the lives of couples who have registered their partnerships.

Billie Bryan, the group’s president, said this challenge threatens to undo all of the progress the LGBTQIA+ community has made in the long journey towards achieving marriage equality.

“Colours Caribbean will be acting as intervenor, representing gays, lesbians, bisexuals and anyone else who depends on the new Civil Partnership Law to be legally recognised as a couple in the Cayman Islands, allowing for the sharing of property, joint custody of children, among many other substantial benefits typically afforded only to different-sex married couples,” she said. “The legalisation of civil partnerships a mere year ago in 2020 was a considerable milestone for our LGBTQIA+ people.”

If the legislation for civil partnerships is dismantled, that this would rip apart the couples who took advantage of the new law after years of being denied the right to marry, she added.

If the judicial review asking the law to be quashed was to succeed, the governor has already said that there are other remedies to roll out the Civil Partnership Law. There are now more members in Parliament who support the legislation, which means it could pass. Alternatively, the UK has the ultimate constitutional power of an order in council, which could be used to reinstate the law.

Meanwhile, the Privy Council decision relating to the Day-Bodden case, which was heard earlier this year, has yet to be delivered. That case deals with the application by Chantelle Day and Vickie Bodden-Bush for the British high court to overturn the Cayman Islands Court of Appeal decision to allow government’s appeal against the amendment to the Marriage Law.

This amendment was made by Chief Justice Anthony Smellie in 2019 in the Grand Court, when the couple, who began the legal fight for marriage equality in the Cayman Islands in 2017, succeeded in their human rights case.


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  1. Anonymous says:

    The governor’s role is to ensure proper governance. Had the appeal court made even civil unions not legal, and the legislative assembly chose to make it legal (in spite of what the appeal court ordered) the governor would have still had to intervene. There is a relationship among the three branches of government, and because of the short-sighted and close-minded actions of members of the legislative assembly, that relationship between the legislative and the judiciary had broken down. The governor restored that relationship. That is the purpose of his emergency powers. I have a very good feeling that this judicial review is an exercise in futility And those that have made use of the civil partnership act have nothing to worry about. If the judicial review is successful, all it will do is put the Cayman Islands in a position where full marriage equality is ordered from the Privy Council and there will be nothing Kattina and her crew can do after that. Kattina had better be careful – she might end up bringing about the same thing she’s hoping to prevent.

    • Anonymous says:

      If the review turns out to be more expensive than she and her crew expected, who is going to pay for that? Asking for a friend.

  2. Robert Mugabe IV says:

    Someone said earlier “these are not the normal
    run of the mill Christians….” referring to the Christian CAC group. No
    I’ve got news for ya. All Christians believe hocus pocus nonsense. The sooner it is removed from every school on the planet the better. Unfortunately parents can teach their children whatever they want behind closed doors, while poisoning their young minds.
    Anyways this is all we need to know about Christians……
    A very funny and true meme.

    Not feeling very bright today?
    There are grown adults that believe two penguins walked from Antarctica to the Middle East to get aboard an Ark built by a 500 year old man.

    • Anonymous says:

      Imagine that.
      People need something to believe in especially the poor.

    • Anonymous says:

      Mugabe, I think that your pos is taking it a bit far and promoting divisiveness and hatred.

      Christians like everyone else should have the freedom to practice their beliefs it they chose to. Denigrating them for your own benefit is completely wrong. There are many good Christian people on this island and I strongly believe that whether you chose to believe what they believe or not, it has been beneficial to this island for a long time.

      As far as this so called “radicalized” group led by Kattina, it does not espouse Christian beliefs but is in fact, hijacking the Christian Church and its beliefs, in her efforts to promote her political agenda, whatever that may be.

      There is a line to be drawn here somewhere as I cannot believe that every Christian believer on this island is connected to or supportive of this group or faction.

    • Anon says:

      Ha ha, good twist on allegorical myths that exist to support a culture’s values. I read this to my wife and she can’t stop laughing despite her catechism classes.

    • Anonymous says:

      You’re a blistering arrogant idiot

  3. Anonymous says:

    Look ya Kattina you need to explain how this civil partnership has affected you or anyone else since being passed ? Did it take any of your human rights? Can you not go pick up a man and marry him if you so please? Has you day to life been affected at all ? XXX You out there couple weeks ago stirring up noise about “your body your rights” and not wanting to told what to put inside your body. Why the hell you think you or anybody should have a say and dictate how other ought to live and love ? Give me a break woman. Just stop the foolishness now man. Christian, Christian my…

  4. Anonymous says:

    You do understand that this is not your “normal run of the mill” Christians.

    This is a radicalized group calling themselves
    a Christian civics group that is lead by a former crack addict.

  5. Anonymous says:

    “The problem with closed-minded people is their mouth is always open.” Plain and simple.

    Leave alone an issue that honestly does not affect you Madam unless you wish that the gay people in your family never ever have the right to have a union that they chose to formulate recognised.

    Nothing more to add to this situation. I am done!!

  6. Anonymous says:

    I wish my fellow caymanians loved to fight for better schooling for our kids in the same way they love to fight other law abiding citizens from being legally recognized as married.

    I’m a libertarian and I believe you should

    – respect property rights
    – respect freedom of speech
    – do not cause any physical harm to someone else.

    In no way shape or form does two people you don’t know cause you physical harm, infringe on your rights to say what you want or infringe on your property that you own. So how can you celebrate and fight for some people not being able to marry.

    But I think I see the core issue. Values from the older generation are no longer the same to those below them. Globalistation and the internet has caused a massive shift as younger generations are becoming more and more influenced by so many cultures around the globe and not just the country where they live. Those who hold steadfast in their religious values want the rest of the country to do the same.. but soon you will be in the minority and you need to learn how to cope with that. You can claim your bible has all the answers but in the real world, your scripture is nullified by the mere fact that I don’t believe in it. It is nothing but words on a paper, no different from books in the fiction section of the library.

    The beauty of the libertarian perspective is that you bible thumpers can do exactly what you want within your own communities but you seem to think that EVEYRONE needs to do what you think is right. You are now infringing on the rights of people to live in the society based on some words on a paper written by men almost 3 millennia ago.

    If marriage wasn’t tied to obtaining joint loans / mortgages and other facets so that you and another person are seen as one, then I wouldn’t even be commenting to you. But the way society works means that your incessant push for everyone to conform with what you see as right is hurting a group of people. If it wasn’t, I would advise those who are gay to just ignore it and do their own thing.

    As a Caymanian who is for freedom of choice, I will fight for everyone’s right to be married to whichever human being they want. I grew up with people who came forth after years of friendship as gay. I didn’t even blink because none of that matters to me. They were the same classmates and friends who stuck with me for years and never treated me differently.

    All the bible thumpers who talk about “go somewhere else”, I will smile when it is you in the minority. As a millennial who believed everything the generation above told me and followed what they believed was the best path forward, I come back from school abroad to a government that couldn’t care less about me. So I work day in and day out, switch careers and I’m climbing the corporate ladder only to still have old men and women stuck in the past claim their feelings are more important that mine. You have destroyed the island with your greed. I mean, I’m all for development but you can’t put / keep 5 trees on the land? Do you have to turn everything into cement? And I’m almost positive that it is my generation who will have fix your shit when you are done. All the money people will leave because they are not tied to this island, but it is very same people you are fighting against that will have to save you.

    So.. its time to change that. We will let democracy handle this and if it does turn out that you lose, I cannot wait to tell you to “go find somewhere else to live” because I for one am done with this concept that I owe allegiance the same people who take from me while they don’t have the same values as I do.

  7. Anonymous says:

    I am so over this BS from “Christians”. Stop trying to force your beliefs and double standards on everyone. You feel homosexuality is a sin. That’s your right. But stop forcing your beliefs on others.

    No one is trying to tell you what to do in your bedroom, stay the hell out of mine and everyone else’s.

    • Anon says:

      What is being challenged here is the Governors power under our constitution to pass legislation which our government voted against.

      • Anonymous says:

        This is a British overseas territory. The governor has ultimate authority. So he exercised his rights. And rightly so if the government are trying to refuse people basic human rights.

      • Anonymous says:

        It was the government’s duty to set something equivalent to marriage immediately by our grand court, but they failed to do so.

    • Anonymous says:

      @4:47pm I am a “Christian” and like many other Christians we do not support or follow this group led by Kattina Anglin, let’s make that very clear. She does not speak for us or represent us even though though that is her claim to fame.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Oh yes. The lovely double standard from the Christian radicals.

  9. Anonymous says:

    LGBTQIA+ ? How many more letters are we going to add? I feel left out because I identify as a non binary banana and I feel i should have the right to marry another non binary banana or a plantain as we are the same family. Now I am going to sit back and count the number of times the word bigot is used by people who don’t know what it means.

    • Anonymous says:

      Imagine you’re here because people in the same family married in the past.

    • Beaumont Zodecloun says:

      I gave you a thumbs up, because I completely support your right to marry a banana, and have a happy and healthy life. You will likely encounter difficulty with your insurance, however.

      I fail to see what your post has to do with anything, other than you wanted to slag the letters of the LGBTQ etc. I don’t know all of the letters either, but I’m not going to make fun of those for whom those letters matter.

      Don’t be a dog turd. Just support equality for ALL residents. That’s it. No mystery.

    • Anonymous says:

      He must be so nice to not have to feel wrong in your own skin.

    • banana-person says:

      Bigot: a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

      Seems to fit

    • Anonymous says:

      But you are a bigot, aren’t you? Just look at the definition and tell me how your moving comments about people’s sexual identify doesn’t put you in that category.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Marriage was created by the church for heterosexual couples which becomes enshrined in the constitution. This should have been a rule for the church not a rule for the law of the land.

    • Anonymous says:

      Totally. There should be civil partnerships for everyone and only marriage within the church walls where they can hang a lovely certificate on their walls at home.

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh do grow up. I am not at all religious and don’t believe in god but married my wife in a church in the English countryside because it’s a nice setting. No reason why two gays can’t eat married in a church. It’s 2021 for christs sake

      • Anonymous says:

        You are straight man marrying a woman you see, no problem for the church. Marriage is created by the church for straight people.
        The gays do not need to get married but form a civil partnership which gives the same right marriage.

        • Anonymous says:

          Marriage is not created by the church. It had been around way before any church. Where did you find this information? People enter marriages in places where there are no churches as much as an eye can see.
          And speaking of which, even civil partnerships some of you don’t want. No matter what, some of you still don’t want any rights for us.
          Marriage is it then.

  11. Anonymous says:

    To all in general: If you happen to have to step into my yard and ask for help, please dont make your first statement be a demand. Same said with the situation here. U want to be gays, lesbians etc where you come from and its ok back home, but now you have stepped into MY yard and demanded that i make changes to how I am living to satisfy you…this is what I dont understand because I can not step in your yard and do the same.

    • Anonymous says:

      How would this change how you are living? That really makes no sense without an explanation.

      • Anon says:

        Legalizing the gay/transgender lifestyle impacts the whole society. You are naive to think otherwise. Just look at other countries as an example…it happened over time ….

        • Anonymous says:

          Impacts how exactly? Some people don’t like to see others living their lives happier and it bothers them? What on earth is gay/transgender lifestyle would any of you who throw these terms actually bother to explain? How is it even any of your business at all if you’re not LGBTQ ? What it the matter with some of you? Just mind your business.
          What happened in other countries over time according to you?
          I bet you can’t even explain any of it just talking general habitual backwards nonsense.

        • Anonymous says:

          Legalizing people being happy should be everyone’s prerogative. Not one issue here will affect your life unless you happen to be part of the crowd that is marginalized.

        • Kjay says:

          So true.

    • Anonymous says:

      I hope this mitigates some of your apparent confusion: Marriage equality laws don’t force anyone to do anything. Marriage equality laws will not result in you changing the way you live.
      Marriage equality laws do not mean you will have to do anything to satisfy anyone.
      Marriage equality laws does not mean that people are stepping in your yard to make changes.

      Unless you seek to enter a same-sex partnership, marriage equality laws won’t actually affect you in any way, shape or form…whatsoever.

      I hope this helps.

      • Anonymous says:

        How does it change how you are living!? You’re a disgrace – you are the one who should leave. I’m straight but caymanians who won’t allow gay expats should be the ones leaving the islands

    • Anonymous says:

      If you are not LGBTQ person same sex marriage has nothing to do with you in the first place, what makes you think you can decide for others?

    • Anonymous says:

      So you think there are no gay Caymanians? You think this is for foreigners? Wake up!!!!

  12. Sunrise says:

    I am not one that fully supports same sex marriage, however, if two persons of the same sex wants to marry, that should be their decision. What harm is being done with same sex marriage? What frustrates me, is the fact that these Christians groups, never march or bring a challenge to court, that is against pedophiles, incest, rape, child molestation, etc.. Short and simple, that is why I don’t support these so called Christian groups!!

  13. Anonymous says:

    Anyone else get the irony or see the hypocrisy of saying you want the right to choose regarding vaccinations and also saying you don’t want other people to have the right to choose when it comes to their marital status?

    • Anonymous says:

      And some of the anti gay marriage people are also anti abortion – just select the rules they like when choosing what they think they should be able to decide on. Pathetic.

  14. Yuno Itstru says:

    Lawfully wedded husband and wife means exactly what it says: Man and Woman. If gays want to live together I don’t give a hoot. Same sex marriage is illegal and should continue to be. There is no law that I am aware of that says people of the same sex can’t live together.

    • Anonymous says:

      I don’t know what planet you live on, not that I really care. I believe you hear selectively and missed many a point why legalities of a marriage or a civil partnership are important and what all this legal battle is about. I would probably try to explain in as few words as possible, but there is no guarantee you will comprehend. Otherwise by now you definitely would have. Looks like ignorance is some sort of bliss.

    • Anonymous says:

      If you don’t give a ‘hoot’, why do you draw the line at marriage? You obviously give a ‘hoot’ then. You’re just a hateful person, full of prejudice. I don’t know how people like you can go your lives fretting over couples who happen to be the same-sex. If affects you in no way whatsoever.

    • Anonymous says:

      Living together is one thing but civil partnerships is intended to provide for more than that. Men and women who marry can safely – adopt kids, achieve what ever immigration status together they want, rely on rules of intestacy etc. Same sex couples are asking for the same conveniences. Granting equality to same sex couples doesnt take any of your rights away.

    • Anonymous says:

      You can’t be serious? Cayman is probably one of few apparent first world countries in the world where this is illegal. It’s like living in Saudi Arabia

    • Anon says:

      Yup. Exactly

  15. Caymanian voter says:

    Horay ! This is great news indeed. God bless Kattina and those backing her. She has a huge following, and democracy is democracy! What is right is what is right! XXX Kattina did the right thing!

    lol … all you Cns keyboard warriors can start the multiple clicking now if it makes you feel good :))

    • Anonymous says:

      Actually, a democracy, if administered correctly, will look out for the marginalized members of society. This would include gay people, religious people, people of every skin colour, and disability.

      What is right is what is right. Hmmm, you see, that changes over time. In 2021, gay people are allowed to be together and recognized as such, however they may wish.

      Have a lovely day, may it be full of rainbows.

      • Anonymous says:

        A true democracy looks out for the will of the majority, so you can stop spinning your “truth”.

        • Anonymous says:

          My word. I hate to be the person correcting others with text from the internet, but you’re just embarrassingly wrong. Demo…the people,ergo that includes gay people, religious people, and so on.

          “Cornerstones of democracy include freedom of assembly, association and speech, inclusiveness and equality, citizenship, consent of the governed, voting rights, freedom from unwarranted governmental deprivation of the right to life and liberty, and minority rights.”

          • KY says:

            I say this not to be insulting, but the facts are the facts – What I don’t get with the LGBTQ crowd, is why are they grouping a race with homosexuality ?!  Gay is not a race! No scientific evidence proves this! It is all a myth! And hence, crafting out “special rights” for them (more like priveleges or entitlements to me) is unnecessary. A third bathroom is unnecessary! And to me, alot of their anti-discrimination and hate speech laws is just ridiculous! I understand Billy t/a Colours want it taught in our schools… what about parental rights? These “special rights” have nothing to do with the already existing rights in our Constitution – THAT APPLIES FOR EVERYBODY… All I’m saying, a Democracy must enforce laws that are scientifully grounded at least in biology. It is just like nobody would want an Islamic minority demanding that everyone must acknowledge their “special rights” that will only erode the already constitutional rights we have. Peace

            • Anonymous says:

              If you actually new anything about human sexuality your argument would probably have some merit. Telling me that my life and lives of millions of other people are a myth.
              We don’t want any special rights, just exactly everything you have a right to. No more, but no less. Get it?
              Science can’t fully explain everything, by the way. Like gravity, for example. You probably didn’t know that either. Or multiple sclerosis and how to treat it. And many other things. I dare you to call them a myth.
              Cayman Constitution provides for as minimum as civil partnerships for same sex couples, a legal framework similar to marriage if not the marriage itself. Privy Council soon speaks about it. Cayman Lawmakers failing to provide one were in breach and created a a mess which the Governor had no option but to step in and fix. Didn’t know that either? Wake up.

        • Anonymous says:

          You heard the words, but don’t know how to use them. Google can help.

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s truly a shame she has anyone backing her at all!

  16. Anonymous says:

    Does anyone have any details on how we can support Kattina Anglin?

    • Anonymous says:

      pray

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes. Purchase a time machine, and go back to the 1950s.

    • Anonymous says:

      Petition Heaven.

    • Anonymous says:

      yep, contact Roy and Alden..I hear they putting together a little turtle dinner fundraiser up at Kurt’s house this weekend.

      • Anonymous says:

        @1:23pm nah they been busy trying to usurp power using covid as their “go to” reason. They already gave Kattina and her parade a good uplifting at the last Parliament session.

        They might be in the turtle meat this weekend but it’s not to help Kattina anymore. Alden gave her her few minutes of fame. She will have to rely on Dr. T going forward to fund her.

        I would love to be a fly on the wall up at Kurts house this weekend to hear the next plan to bring down the government ..By the way, I hear he cooks the best Turtle meat.

    • Anonymous says:

      @10:46am.

      Dr. T. got this. Kattina is flush with cash right now.

  17. Anonymous says:

    After these churches and their leadership, loose once again in this basic civics lesson, can we countersue to recover the plaintiff costs they siphoned from public purse in bringing it about? Why shouldn’t these wage-stripping foreign churches cover those costs, penalties, and interest, that are brought against ritually-oppressed local defendants? The Cayman Islands government shouldn’t be propelling multiple dead end loosing cases for alt-right overseas-led churches, with our public funds, especially when the issues are already found to be universally repugnant to UNHRC/ECHR and BOTC obligations. The governor’s Section 81 reserve intervention powers are a last-resort function, exercised on behalf of the Queen, with consultation from FCO, as part of the normal package of being a dependent UK Territory. Maybe the Governor should use Section 81 to appoint an impartial AG that is less error-prone in local governance matters?

    • Anonymous says:

      “Maybe the Governor should use Section 81 to appoint an impartial AG that is less error-prone in local governance matters?” This is so accurate.

  18. Anonymous says:

    My body, my choice.

    • Anonymous says:

      @10:17 am – apparently that only works if you’re protesting vaccine mandates.

      If you’re seeking an abortion and/or equal rights for the LGBTQ+ community it’s your body but not your choice.

  19. Anonymous says:

    The Governor exceeded his authority. The change should have been by way of Order in Council. I am an advocate for gay rights but the rule of law is the rule of law. Gay marriage should be permitted, and if our legislature will not pass the appropriate legislation, and the Chief Justice is overruled, then the UK parliament must act. No one will have their lives turned upside-down.

  20. Anonymous says:

    UK needs to step in here and force same sex marriage. The hypocrisy of Anglin “rights for all” at the anti vaxxer demonstration but clearly not rights for loving couples in same sex relationships is outrageous. The Judge should not have entertained this at all.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Two words : White paper. This homophobia motivated nonsense seems to never stop. Would she ever challenge the Governor’s actions if it allowed her as a woman the rights to vote or to drive a vehicle? I really doubt. White paper it is. Challenge that.

  22. Anonymous says:

    When it comes to this, I’m unsure what the justification there is for not letting people live their own lives. As long as people are not actively threatening you or your property, why can’t people who have different sexual preferences get married? It’s absolutely asinine that a set of people, who do not know anything about another party claim they know what’s best for them. You know the common notion that a child sent to a super strict school is expected to be some sort of deviant because they aren’t spoken to, they are dictated to.

    They do not get to work out their thoughts and feelings, instead they just see people encroaching on their life telling them what they are allowed to do or feel. This is what is happening and no-one is going to like the repercussions of continuously preventing people from living their own lives. I’ve noticed a lot more teenagers admitting to being bi-sexual and gay. Is it partially attributable to being rebellious to the current culture? Possibly, but we will never find out if they are just told its wrong and it isn’t allowed. Calling them sinners and misguided will never allow either side of the debate to understand each other and only conflict arises.

    I just don’t understand how two people, who want to live a life together are being prevented from doing so legally. Absolutely garbage.

    Freedom of choice in relationships, freedom of choice in vaccinations. No mandates, no coercion.

  23. Anonymous says:

    This fight against same-sex couples is getting silly at this stage. The fact that 40 couples &/or families could potentially be negatively impacted is unacceptable.

    I didn’t like the fact that the governor forced his will on the elected government and people of the Cayman Islands but I also understand that it was unacceptable to continue to abridge the rights of same-sex Caymanian couples.

    We can’t continue to deny equal rights to groups of Caymanians that we don’t agree with and the Caymanian thing to do at this stage is to love and respect our fellow Caymanians and neighbors.

    • Anonymous says:

      If the Governor exceeded his constitutional powers, the respective rights affected are irrelevant. We are all constrained by our Constitution. It protects rights, and fetters power, for a reason. The fact that an individual can challenge the Governor is cause for celebration, just as the ability for gay people to marry will be cause for celebration.

  24. coming to a venue near you says:

    If plaintiff is so upset about civil partnerships, just imagine how mad plaintiff is going to be when the Privy Council gives the OK for gay marriage — which will hopefully be VERY soon!

  25. Anonymous says:

    It’s really tragic that there can be so many conniving, mean-spirited neighbours, professing to be Christians, yet completely deaf to, and unfamiliar with, the Golden Rule, the central tenet of their religion. Think on all those mis-spent years of pew time wasted not getting the one message that’s supposed to be ringing home. If any lawsuit makes sense, it should be a religious malpractice group action against their churches and pastors. Ideally, before their souls have to present in front of St Peter and receive condemnation to everlasting regret and disappointment. Colossal freight elevator, no buttons, one stop, going down.

  26. mind your own business says:

    For heaven’s sake, this case should be dismissed with a Summary Judgment from the bench, saying that plaintiff “Christian Assn for Civics” has NO case. It’s long past time to STOP bashing gays. True Christians reject such bigotry and recognise that “you love who you love”. Whereas, this plaintiff (and so-called “Christian”) is obsessed with who their neighbour loves — and whether the gender combination within their neighbour’s house comports with plaintiff’s narrow-mindedness. NOTE: If Billy loves Tommy, good for them! If Mary love Jane, good for them! My advice to plaintiff: Worry about what goes on in YOUR OWN house, not the house of others!

    • Anonymous says:

      Sure. Except they have a case. The UK chickened out and the Governor out stepped his bounds. An Order in Council (if our own parliament will not pass an act permitting same sex marriage) is the proper way forward.

  27. Anonymous says:

    Is this the same woman who argued that it is her human right not to take the vaccine? XXXX

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