‘Exorcist’ head teacher under investigation
(CNS): Vickie Frederick, the principal of Red Bay Primary School, has been placed under investigation for alleged misconduct that threatened the safety of children under her care. While the Department of Education Services (DES) has said little about the case, parents of children at the school have posted on social media that Frederick was involved in some kind of exorcism ritual at the school on several young students.
A release from the Ministry of Education said the matter had been referred to the Multi-Agency Safeguarding Hub (MASH) following “reports of alleged misconduct towards students” and that the member of staff has been “relocated from schools until the investigation is completed”.
CNS is awaiting a response from officials about why the principal has not been suspended and what other work she is permitted to do if she is not working in any of the schools.
Officials have failed to describe the details of the allegations against Frederick, who has been head of the school for around 15 years. But social media posts by parents suggest that she had pulled about two dozen children from class and engaged in some kind of religious session in which she had told the students they were possessed by demons and must repent.
It is understood that some of the children were forced to drink something and were manhandled during the alleged exorcism. There are also suggestions this had something to do with questions about the sexuality of the 9,10 and 11-year-old children that were involved.
Frederick is a religious minister as well as being the principal of the primary school, which was last inspected and found to have made good progress in 2018.
According to posts made by parents, many of the children involved were frightened by the experience. The chief officer for the education ministry, Cetonya Cacho, said, “The safety and wellness of our students are our priorities. Immediate actions have been taken to address these allegations.”
Acting Director of DES Tammy Banks-DaCosta said that the department is committed to supporting the students and staff of the Red Bay Primary School to ensure that the teaching and learning activities continue with as little disruption as possible. “The academic and emotional well-being of our students is paramount; we will ensure that the school is poised to continue to function effectively and efficiently,” she added.
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And we wonder why our children are so unprepared to compete for jobs. Yea, blame those ‘evil’ expats who take our precious jobs away; but protect those’evil’ folks we hold in high regard as they pollute our youth with 1600’s thinking!
I would be so happy if they would take Religious Education out of public schools. My son was so uncomfortable when he was taking those lessons. No one should be forced to take RE. I listened to the children during lockdown. They sounded so brainwashed. I don’t think it is the school’s place to teach my children about end of life and abortion.
Religious education is as far from indoctrination as you can imagine. It informs children how different cultures view the world. It is probably something that all children should be offered, so as to not create brain dead believers with blinkered views that only they are right. It is nothing to do with teaching how to be religious.
The problem here is that RE is confused with bible study and all that kind of stuff. Also, some RE teachers here are more like pastors. THAT’S NOT HOW IT’S SUPPOSED TO WORK.
If religion could change behavior school psychologists and psychiatrists would not exist. Demons and Spirits were a way to explain the unknown causes of behavior before it was scientifically studied, it’s a relic of the Middle Ages. We now know a lot more about the causes of behavior and how they are formed and reinforced. Unfortunately this Principal is ignoring the psychological bases of behavior and child development and relying on a ‘belief system’ that is not based on proven facts. The conflict is quite obvious, teaching and learning is based on psychological Behavioural practice. Religion is based on belief and faith that it’s true and indisputable.
All education personnel involved in teaching and learning should limit interventions to techniques based on the Psychology of Teaching and Learning, period.
Then home school your kid yourself and teach him what you think he needs to know.
You pay me to stay home then.
It’s not god I have a problem with…It’s his fan club I can’t stand. – unknown
“If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.” – Voltaire
Your lack of faith and negativity is what positions everything
Will probably get relocated to a top job in the DES or Ministry and join all the other failed teachers and Principals. That’s where the real cult members reside.
We should know that Govt employees are never terminated and may be suspended and sitting at home on full pay for years, except only if they are in jail.
This is why I eat potted meat so my kids can go to private school
Still a step up from the previous Principal of that school mind you.
How does the new leadership ,that in all their election rallies complained about our education minister justify keeping this ridiculous woman in their midst, as minister for education.
This.
Most painful thing about this is that the principal no doubt thought she was doing something good. That’s the great power of religion. It can lead otherwise fairly normal people to do horrible, weird and dangerous, things, all the while believing with absolute certainty that they are right.
Think about this, an adult who sincerely believes that invisible evil demons are running around and jumping inside of children was placed in charge of a government school with responsibility for the education and welfare of hundreds of children. Scary.
Not currently in DSM, but soon come
6:38 pm,stupid people think and believe stupid things
This is literally the work of the Devil, not the Lord.
No true Christian would behave in this manner and do something like this to these children. This is not who God was or what he stood for. Nor is it what we are taught by any stretch of the imagination. This is completely unacceptable and she should be ashamed of herself. it’s a shame that it’s people like her who have caused a complete misrepresentation of what it’s like to be a Christian.
This is Christianity at its finest!
7:51 you know nothing of Christianity if you truly think that because this is NOT God’s way or teachings.
Less like a devil, more like an idiot. Feel very sorry for those children.
Come on then PACT! Let’s see how you handle this one.
Yea there’s always a bullsh!t excuse for the fairytales. Try explaining childhood cancer.
Who is giving an excuse for fairytales? Clearly
It is you who spews bullshit
Childhood cancer, all sickness, disease, murder, rape, corruption… exist yes, because we live in a fallen world of human beings who reject God, their Creator, choose sin, their own way and depravity and then turn around and blame Him for their state.
You are left to decide whom you love and serve. God, who, has made Himself known to you and made the Way for you to turn from this evil world and come to Him. Or this world, sin and the evil ruler in it. Yes, sin feels good, but it’s end is destruction.
Choose.
What are you talking about? Have you ever read the Bible? If God is real and Christianity is true then the principal was on solid ground tormenting those children the way she did because that kind of insanity fills the Bible.
11:14 clearly it is you who hasn’t read the Bible…either that or you lack basic understanding.
Incorrect. Flat out lies. Jesus and His disciples/followers NEVER did this.
6:35 well said, I have said similarly. So many claiming the Christian faith but are not actually practicing Christian ways. Therefore, they are unfortunately misrepresenting Christianity and turning people from God.
The start of the problem is that so many people actually believe in supernatural beings like demons and gods.
Actually, the start of the problem is people who clearly see God in creation and deny His existence, turning instead to their own ways and this sinful world.
Our sins offend God who is righteous and holy, but He has made the Way, through the love and mercy of His Son Jesus Christ, who paid for our transgressions, for you to come to Him, be forgiven of all of your sins. Yes, all of them.
I dare you to talk to Him from a humble heart.
The arrogance of man to look see the evidence of God in creation and think that oneself is greater.
Is Satan, evil, or demons real? Yes. Can they latch onto children? Yes. I personally know this for a fact! Not that they deserve it, but they feed off their energies, trigger fears and nightmares in order to do so. Is there truly power in the name of Jesus? Most certainly I believe this in the subconscious realm. I would be lying to you if I said his name is just any other name. I saw enough supernatural things from that sincerely spoken name. With that said, am I going to allow atheists, liberal gays, and skeptics to insult my intelligence and say I am brainwashed because of my experiences? Some people will never know your experiences, and they will insult you. But I must defend my experiences. Nobody can speak for me. I must be honest with myself. And I know others are like too. Respectfully, do I condone Vicky’s actions? No! Do I see anti-religious persons using this incident as an opportunity now to bash Gd, the reality of evil, and His moral standards? Yes I do. This is one of the works of Satan. To use all like the media to deceive. My take is, Vicky should have not touch people’s children without their consent! If she suspected demonic influences, she should have offered her prayers to Gd on her own spare time. If she saw a child needing special attention, you have school psychologist and psychiatrist, and counselors. Use these Gd ordain services before you rule out demonic influences. Consult parents before you lay hands on their children! Its that simple! I suggest she should rescind. A principle position at a government school is not for her. Anyways, just sharing my opinion. You may thumbs down as much as you want. Gdspeed
Wow, exactly why i don’t hire caymanians or jamaicans. Completely of the chart.
Absolutely no view of reality.
Because you and your other foreigner pals are soo much better and on point right! Prejudice b*****
6:42 talking about showing your black heart. What a hateful person you are. Why are you on Cayman or the Caribbean for that matter?
It’s true though. If their time in education has been filled with religion, what marketable skills do these kids end up with?
8:26 What a ridiculous comment. RE is NOT the only subject taught in school. I went to a Christian school, on Island, and RE was one class a week. I had all other necessary and important classes such as, Math, English, Geography, Accounting, Art, Drama, Physics, Biology, Chemistry, IT, etc. Kindly stop talking your backwards nonsense as if RE some how holds us back and is all we learn in school. I credit my well rounded school experience and supportive parents for my success.
You misspelled god a bunch of times. Just FYI
Try to objectively read your comment, it’s ridiculous
Incredible that you are free in society to preach this nonsense instead of locked up getting the help you need
Oh Jesus Christ. You’re so dumb.
7:32 your a jackass, so we’re all even
you’re
9:34 well said buddy!
But did she really did what Cayman Marl Road said? .. Just a month ago Cayman Marl Road had protestors attending Isaac Rankin’s home because he was exercizing his democratic right as an MP to associate with a political group that best fit his interest.
Perfectly said, CaymanKnight! To God be the glory.
And you’re another brick in the wall.
1:40 and you are just another idiot who demes people when they don’t follow your agnostic ways. The initial comment is clearly stating how wrong this situation is.Yet you belittle them for your belief.
You are no better so get off your high horse
Me thinks you meant: No true Scotsman would act this way.
Why do you refer to God in the past tense?
She’d have done better to have Moved Purposefully And Fixed Things.
That’s good. Given the published obesity rates, those kids could use some exorcise.
6:28 that’s not even funny and this situation should not be made light of
6:28. Funny because it’s true.
Well that’s in poor taste, smh
Remember the poor child who was told his mother would burn in hell for being divorced? Religion is a choice if you want to follow that nonsense. It has no place being forced on children at school.
Absolutely disgraceful. If it was mr child exposed to this lunatic, I would be in Fairbanks because I would give her an exorcism. How dare she traumatize those children!
Same here. You better believe it!
The government is possessed and run by demons so I can believe that school children might be you go girl get you freak On! Now Mind you I have some cousins and I know they are owned by Devil himself can I get your business card please Mrs Frederick ! What life without a little humor Cayman eh???
@ Susan – I know Vickie too to some degree. I highly respect her. And I understand your post. But … I think a government school is not a private school like Catholic school. Two different types of schools. Not all the children in the government schools have parents who are religious. So, of course, those irreligious parents would be very upset to see that their children was in a ritual that cause them emotional stress!
Just saying … Gd bless 🙏🏽
What exactly are you saying here? Irrespective of whether the families are religious or non-religious, you should NEVER aggressively place your hands on a child and have them drink unknown liquids.
What utter tripe, teaching this antiquated, lack of responsibility BS is exactly what is causing problems in this society. All these so-called Christians going around judging people, abusing women and kids and saying they are ‘god fearing’, give me a break.
Obeah is outlawed, so should this christian nonsense
Yeah no. I’m Christian and I think she’s a lunatic. If she was touching my child, the cops would have to prepare my cell cause I’m fighting somebody!
Crucifixion. First offence
Ministry of Backwardation shouldn’t think too long on firing her for cause, and they should be scrambling to get ahead of criminal abuse claims from those parents. I know my lawyers would already be filing action against her, the school, and Ministry.
MASH needs to speak to the staff, past and present, who have been subjected to this lunacy for years, at the knowledge of the Ministry of Education and the current Minister.
I agree! I don’t think the staff would speak up but it’s worth a try.
Many of the present ones are complicit. Ask the past staff about the staff meetings and the “lockdown drills”.
MASH is currently too busy being inept at their handling of a case of bullying in a private high school right now. But your call is important, they’ll get back to you when they have time (next year)
Try homeschooling.
Release the JuJu!
Who you say was Panton’s choice for education minister again?
Panton was so self righteous until he needed JuJu and McKeewa to get into power.
#nomoralfortitude.
This is why our schools are failing our children. Crazy people in charge.
Good thing we have a rational, sane, modern person in charge of education in the Cayman Islands. I’m sure she will use evidence and reason to get to the bottom of this.
(We’re doomed)
This is nothing new or unusual. Children are terrorized in the name of religion all the time.
Worse things are bound to happen unless government finally does the responsible things and makes every government school completely secular. It should be left to parents to brainwash and abuse their children with superstitious nonsense if they’re that stupid.
There should be no religious indoctrination, no services, nor terrorizing of children allowed in government/public . It’s bad enough that it goes on in the kooky religious schools here, but there’s no excuse for it to happen in government schools. That it goes on all the time is criminal negligence on the part of the government. It is inevitable that some parent will sue for millions of dollars one day. Maybe that will force them to finally do the obvious right thing.
This is why I LOVE living in Cayman. Where else in the world would you read a story like this.
CNS, really, thanks for the laugh
4:19 there are actually a lot of stories like this, worldwide, unfortunately
At least some of us can scrape together enough money to get our kids into private schools (working 3 jobs) because the kids in these public schools do not have a chance on being able to compete against educated children when it comes to the job market after their heads being filled with this nonsense. Try teaching them some actual real school subjects and give them a hand up. Prayer isn’t going to do it, god isn’t coming to save them, with this cult of christianity so deeply embedded in this country, you are failing your children, you are failing your country and you are making yourselves a laughing stock
In the last inspection, it was judged as making good progress, but an area of weakness that was identified was in the running of exorcisms. It’s good they’ve finally addressed that issue.
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Let me guess, the child expressed a desire to get vaccinated once the vaccine was available to the child’s age group.
Here’s my excuse to go to bed early tonight.
I would recommend to keep religion out of schools but not with a Minister of Education who is a religious zealot herself. Carry on, maybe can have a weekly exorcism for the kids now…
The country is run by masons, a cult religion, don’t forget that. You have to keep religion out of government before you can keep it out of schools.
I see the usual fundamentalist Christians sorts are already circling the wagons XXX
Until there is a formal and enforced separation of Church and State in this country our children will continue to be brainwashed by people who think they can get away with it
There need to be consequences for this
Had this been a Muslim or a member of the LGBTQ community doing something like this to children the response would have been immediate, severe and unequivocal.
There is no reason whatsoever why anything of this sort should have been happening. If true, this woman and anyone involved should be fired immediately, and baring that if they try to quietly phase her out of the civil service the parents of the children involved should sue her into the ground and drag the government along as far as the courts will allow.
Christians and especially fundamentalist nuts who think they are above the law need to get the message quick, fast and in a hurry, there is a line, you have freedom of religion but that is not a freedom to indoctrinate and intimidate people, cross the line and you should face the legal consequences its that simple
Well said
But they are above the law. So many crazy things go on and get a pass here because it’s attached to religion. If an atheist behaved like the fundies do he’d be locked up immediately. Imagine an atheist walking around speaking in tongues, talking to invisible people, claiming to be able to cure anything with a wave of the hand, scaring children with talk of burning in fire, etc. He wouldn’t last five minutes before the police scooped him up.
I will wait this one out while praying that this is a false accusation and someone totally misunderstanding a situation. I have known Vickie Frederick Amador for a very long time and I can attest to the kind of person I’ve always found her to be. She is, am sure, not perfect like her accusers, but I know enough about her to say she is an honest, godfearing, smart and professional woman and a stalwart educater who loves her profession. She is smart enough to not be so foolish as to perform any kind of exorcism on a child/children on her own accord. I know she is a prayer warrior and just maybe she was praying and got into the spirit? If it was an exorcism, what part of that was so bad that she is now being crucified. I never saw or heard of a priest being accused of an egregious act for performing an exorcism. Can a person exorcise the holy Spirit out of someone? Did Jesus not exorcise the evil spirits out of the demoniac? Say she is guilty, could it be possible that she was exorcising an evil spirit? If so, what part of that is an egregious act? I believe that there needs to be a thorough investigation into this matter before one of our own is destroyed out of pure bad mindedness and jealousy. Jesus, please take the wheel💔🙏🙏🙏
Sounds like she believes a little too much into fairy tales. That’s great if she wants to preach on sundays but if you are teaching children how to become effective adults, not so much.
It’s wrong because demons aren’t real.
Jesus H.Christ, it’s 2021. News flash: ghosts and goblins aren’t real either.
Ha ha ha….I saw what you did there!
All I can say after reading this comment is, wow. I genuinely didn’t think we had people that far gone.
I believe you need to take your meds Susan
Are you freakin’ serious? Believe what you want to believe, but practice your religion at church, temple, the mosque, a garage, etc. — NOT at a public school. This is the ultimate bullying tactic, utilising humiliation and power. She needs never to be attached to a school again, even if she “just got into the spirit.” If school administrators are focusing on their own religious histrionics and the sexuality of pre-teens, no wonder many young Caymanians are functionally illiterate after they graduate from a so-called public school in the Cayman Islands.
Sad part is, JuJu is Minister of Education again. Given that she hollered Leviticus up in parliament against the gay people, I highly doubt anything consequential will happen.
This is so true. How can they possibly join the work force when they haven’t been educated?
WOW! So much to say, but it clearly will be a wasted effort on my part…JUST WOW!
How many parents gave her permission.
Those that did should have their children removed.
people like susan here are why things like Jones town and heavens gate happen.
Being a prayer warrior does not permit you to put your hands on a child, or perform any sort of religious ritual ESPECIALLY without the parents consent!!! Corporal punishment has been removed from the school system for a reason, and maybe now, so should religion.
Oh dear God! I can barely believe this is a serious comment. But then again, we are on an island full of religious nutjobs, so yes, I suppose I can believe it.
Religion has no place in school.
6:24 if you don’t like our religious island full of nut jobs then go back to where the hell you came from.
Well, since my navel string buried in Cayman and I’m one of the original families that settled here, where do you purpose that I go?
Are you mad? She has no right under any circumstances to do what she did if it is true. There is nothing that can be said in her defense if she did it. If it was my child or grand child that was involved in this act I myself would be at the police station demanding that she be charged with assault and endangering the welfare of my child. Prayers in school is very acceptable to me but isolating children and scaring them half to death in the name of religion is wrong on do many levels
You are part of the problem. You’re just as crazy as she is for trying to do this to people’s children and abusing her position of trust as an educator.
Everything you described about her and stated in her defense is exactly why religion can be so dangerous. No one has the right to force their religious ignorance and bias onto anyone. Just because someone is “christ-fearing” it doesn’t justify their actions. I honestly hope she wasn’t stupid enough to do the things she is accused of but if the accusations are true then I hope she is prosecuted for it because it was child abuse and endangerment.
Come to the front Susan. Be the first to drink my Coolaid.
The way you describe her she sounds like a bit if a religious crazy person
Well “Susan says” I don’t know anyone involved. But as a former educator … no modern child who would be in any school in Cayman would have DEMON in their vocabulary unless they heard it in CHURCH and no I am not an atheist.
So had it only been CMR that reported the story I personally would have cast a dim eye on that news platform … however all the kids that age in the school would not be brainwashed enough to lie !!!
Unless they all were subject to mass hypnosis, while I am willing to concede that the reports might be exaggerated … they ain’t making all that $h!d up !!
It is wrong, how many more children will be bullied as we were as children before we realised that treating children as if they are less than is WRONG !
First test for PACT and JU JU although she will probably come up with some crap to justify it
Wayne Panton has to step up and get these bible bashing idiots to know their place.
Even the “Bishop” who prayed before the first briefing by this government, went on and on and on spewing nonsense.
This woman should not be allowed to poison children’s minds and be removed from any school post.
Well if you know JU JU, the only surprise is that she wasn’t there washing their feet as the demons were cast out!
For those who have worked there, the only surprise here is that this didn’t come to a head sooner.
Yep.
Have there been previous incidents like this???
Yep.
Please enlighten me. My daughter is in this school and I have no idea what is going on. PLEASE
The principal of the school. Had to read that again, just to be sure I didn’t misread that.
Of course, who else is allowed to do exorcisms in a school? Duh
So where do they draw the line between serving God and making a fool of themselves?
Can we just all acknowledge there is a no proof of demons, gods and angels.
This isn’t out of context this is the topic at hand.
How is it considered normal for an invidividual especially one task with the well being of children to engage in such acts motivated by none other than their own twisted imagination?
I don’t have a problem with people worshipping whatever God that helps them sleep at night. It begins to be a problem when they try to force their belief down my throat.
Religion is like a gun and guns don’t kill people. Think about it.
That is why our public education can no longer be in the hands of religious zealots.. Read our history; the Cayman Islands lagged behind Jamaica in public schooling for several years because the pastors and ministers did not want to ease their monopoly on education. Time for an Education Authority spearheaded by trained educators. Religious zealots, stay in church.
I smell a promotion to a Ministry position coming.
How you know?? You’re so right!
#worldclass
When you know, you know.
Why was she moved from East End again? Do remind us.
Why was she moved from East End???
Dying to know
Ask the Ministry of Education.
What century did she believe we’re living in?
You sure this just wasn’t one of those hard praying sessions like what the education minister has in the LA ?
I said the same thing! She be at the point of tears in the LA. This is a level of extremism. Government officials are allowed to worship who they want to worship but it is time to remove this acceptance of religious guilt especially in our schools
Thank goodness Ju Ju is in charge
Unbelievable Good Lord this report will make your head spin .
So true Bertie:B. This story’s a biggie.
Poor guy rolling in his grave.
I think a lot of people have forgotten these old days, 5:23. They’re all pastors now. How many “h”s in hypocrisy? Mother of God!
Ah yes, keep letting religion into schools
In 2021 …. shameful… smh
If the allegations are true, she and any government employee present at this “exorcism” should probably be fired immediately. There is no excuse for the alleged conduct. If there has been an attempt to “pray away the gay” we need to send a clear marker – and get religion the hell away from education. If necessary, send the kids to CIS (at government expense) and close the school down. At least that would assure our next generation of quality ethical education, and save government money. Parents of those affected should sue if there is not an immediate resolution.
Ju Ju. Wha u say?
This is unbelieveable. It is third world. The woman should be sacked before the end of next week and if she isn’t ‘Ju Ju’ should be relieved of her position as education minister.
First test for Panton to show he is Premier material – he needs to show leadership and ensure the appropriate action is taken.
This is in no way acceptable in ANY advanced society. It is beyond belief.
Who allowed her to run the church on school property?
And this is why religious practices have no place in public schools
I assumed exorcism was pretty commonplace in Christianity, and since we are a Christian country, and this is a Christian school, it doesn’t sound far-fetched.
Could probably do the exorcism while the kid eats his tater tots.
The other allegations, however, are a different story.
Crackpotism isn’t religion
But any form of religion is crackpot.
It’s not a Christian school. It’s a public school. Lots of parents in that school not so practicing and don’t approve of these practices.
10:14 just because it’s public does not mean it isn’t Christian. We are on a Christian island so technically all of the schools are of faith
Religious practices agree but study of all forms of religion no. Divinity classes once per week opened my eyes to religion and to learn about its roots and history. At least we might end up with some school leavers who are not indoctrinated rather than having no means to make an informed choice as to what they believe or not.
If there is any truth to this story she must be fired.
Not ‘relocated’ or sent for re-training. Fired.
This woman has no business being allowed anywhere near children, let alone being put in charge of a school.
Children were frightened by the experience? I’d say life long trauma…
They’re probably used to it; they’ve been told they’ll burn in hell for eternity for any number of fairly mundane matters every Sunday.
William Blake’s illustrations of Dante’s inferno have polluted the minds of the gullible , uneducated village idiots.