Ministry to hold public meeting on cruise port
Cruise ship in George Town Harbour
(CNS): Five years after the government had its last full public meeting dedicated to the cruise berthing project, Tourism Minister Moses Kirkconnell has said on his Facebook page that he will be hosting a meeting next Wednesday about the project. In the face of public concerns about the project, government has claimed that it has been open and transparent about the process. However, with the exception of general tourism meetings where the port has only been mentioned in passing, the details of, and justification for, the costly, controversial project have proved hard to come by.
In the last few weeks a number of documents have emerged about the re-design indicating that changes to the plans are not as environmentally friendly as government would have the public believe. Kirkconnell has also estimated that the project will cost around $200 million.
Other recent revelations include the removal of the Department of Environment director from the steering committee, the fact that no detailed seabed surveys have been conducted, and that government does not plan to undertake an environmental impact assessment on the redesign.
CNS also recently revealed that claims by the ministry that mega cruise ships are the future of cruising and the main reason why Cayman must have piers are also misleading, in light of an industry report which found that only 15 out of more than 100 cruise ships in the pipeline over the next decade fall into that category.
Voters in Prospect learned this month that their representative, Austin Harris, now wholeheartedly supports the development of the facility, despite raging against it for years while working as a radio talk show host and standing opposed to the project on the campaign trail.
At a meeting of the Legislative Assembly on Cayman Brac, the opposition leader tabled a private member’s motion calling on government to hold a national ballot on the decision to go ahead with the project.
The motion failed, but since then a petition for a people-initiated referendum has been gathering pace. Activists are becoming increasingly engaged and the voices of those opposing the project have been growing, even as those with a vested interest in the project have been pouring money into advertising campaigns.
The news of the government meeting follows announcements by the opposition that they, too, will be hosting a series of public meetings in all of the districts, where the facts and latest information will be discussed.
Concerns about this proposed project include fears over cost, the impact on the general infrastructure, the negative effects on tourism, the significant damage to coral reefs and other marine habitat, as well as culturally important wrecks in George Town Harbour. Government, however, appears more determined than ever to press on with the project.
Although few details of the bidding process have been revealed, CNS understands that at this point the government is considering three final bids to select a preferred bidder. After this, government will then begin contract negotiations with the selected bidder.
Unconfirmed reports suggest that China Harbour Engineering Company is among the final three, along with two other consortia. One, it is understood, is a partnership between the cruise lines, a major local general contractor, and a well known international marine engineering firm that has worked in Cayman in the past. The third bid is from an international group in partnership with a local marine company.
Category: Business, development, Local News, Tourism
Does anybody know the time and location this meeting will be held?
CNS: I think it is very interesting that they are holding the meeting on the same day and at the same time as PC Mark Luke’s memorial service at Pedro Castle.
Especially considering Mr. Luke was very pro-environment and would have likely objected to the port – so one can assume his mourners would be similarly minded….
Can we assume PPM chose this date and time so that only their supporters (and those for the dock) would attend?
Politicks. Shame on them.
Lest we forget. In October, Premier of the Cayman Islands McKeeva Bush led a delegation to the China Offshore Summit in Shanghai to promote the jurisdiction to investors and officials, and announced plans to open a representative office in China. The trip also included a meeting with the state-owned China Harbour Engineering Company Ltd, which is to finance and build a cruise berthing facility in the Cayman capital, George Town. https://chinainvestin.com/index.php/en/china-offshore/jurisdictions/america/cayman-islands/1707
Be afraid , Be very afraid of the reasons decisions are made.
Wait, that’s not what that link says.
Revitalize George Town is bullscrap red herring. No one can get space.
Is it true Fosters and Kirkconells stopping the Cruise Port Referendum Cayman group collecting Caymanians signatures outside their 6 supermarkets? Better not be true if they want my business in future. Do these families think they can control everything? Referendum Group please list everyone who is blocking the people’s right to sign the Referendum? Make sure you have a stall at the Family Life Center so we can sign.
If you want to use private property – like the front of a grocery store – they have the right not to let you set up there for whatever reason and the rest of us need to respect that right. Its like if I came and set up a Pro-porn petition table in your front yard. Regardless of your position on my petition you mightn’t want me there.
The way one can prove that the anti port people really have an emotional issue is to hear not even a peep about JGHS. Are they not concerned about the size, design, the tender contractor is from China ( its rumoured), how much is it going to cost? I mean, can we afford it? How much? I hears it was going to cost more then Clifton Hunter (110 million CI dollars.
What I don’t seem to understand is.. We have two sets of ppl.. Well I should say two sets of ppl that matter.. Voters that are pro-port and voters that are anti-port.. Both making their points very clear as to why they want or don’t want the port.. The only real way to confirm who is the majority is to have a referendum so the voters’ voices can be heard fairly.. Yet we are fighting against the referendum?? Why would the people fight against their right to make their voice be heard?!?!? People keep fighting about who going make money.. Port or no port people going make money.. Only difference will be is who making it! As obvious as that might be we seem to have a real problem grasping that idea.. It’s not about who making money.. It’s about does it make sense and will our country be crippled by the port price tag.. Simple! Old people make things much harder than they need to be.. Hence why the country is the way it is.. Old people just give up plz and let us take over from here.. The younger people are tired of una foolishness! Smh
To 8:07 a:m .im an old woman ,I would love to share this with you . Written on a fifteen year old grave ,to you youngsters , as I am so shall you be , as you are so was I ,be prepared to follow me ….. Have respect for the elderly my dear ,,mind where life might take you “.
Because the Gov’t is afraid the people who are against the port will realize they have been fed a load of crap and not want the port either because of the over all costs, what we have to give up to get it or the impact on the environment.
Real young caymanian , I would be scared to death , if the older people gave up and turned it over the young . The things that I see some of them do , I have to wonder if they have a brain . Are you calling Alden , Hew , Dwayne , Tara , Roy , and all the other politicians old ? Who are you suggesting that take over ?
Anyone that approaches the port debate from the perspective of which side stands to make the most money is missing the point altogether.
Sign the PETITION for a REFERENDUM.
sooo, why politiciabs dont take a pay cut?
why not let JLP or PNP run for elections? kingston rock anyways!????
Why is it that when the pro tender people ( expats mostly) talk about the piers they single out the Kirk Freeport people as being greedy, but without fail they never mention the names of the Tender operators and the huge sums of money that they are making and will continue to make if the port is stopped.They also never mention the hundreds if not thousands of Caymanians that have made a living working for them.The reason is, most of those opposed are Johnny come latelies, foreign and local, who don’t know this . But what is really strange is this ;they have stood by and said and done nothing while Dart has taken away our roads ( legally of course ) or covered up other parts of it, dredged a channel in a reef on Seven Mile Beach ( for testing purposes) and on and on. Where were they when four ladies from West Bay stood alone challenging he Mighty Dart..they were silent, and nowhere to be found. I am willing to bet that if Dart got the contract to develop the port 90% of the opposition would disappear.Why ? because they support anything Dart does but opposes something that might benefit a son of the soil. Now getting back to the Tender operators.. they make money from bringing tourists ashore , even if Kirk Free does not make one sale.So who are these protesters protecting again. a multi million dollar tender operator who provides only a few jobs to Caymanians. Another thing where are we going to put the Cargo port since we don’t want any dredging. And why are certain individuals who wanted to put a refinery in the North Sound and to move port /fuel facilities to the North East part of the island ( where the Salina preserve would be threatened) now pushing to stop Port development in George Town? Could it be that they hope to revive those plans if they can defeat the National Unity Govt now and get a new Government in the next elections. What a blow that would be for Ezzard and Arden if they stopped Port development in George Town only to see it placed in their district by a new Government.
Pro tender are not expats mostly. Your blindness leads me to believe you’ve been bought.
Hey, Mister Anonymous….. If you really think building a new dock is so good, why do you not use your name when you post for the building of it. Obviously you think you will gain a lot if it is built, so why not tell us about it? If you did, then all your friends might see why it would be better for them. I dive a lot and I don’t want to see the underwater beauty destroyed…. along with the fish and other creatures of the sea. I really don’t like it when thousands of people get off the ships and clog our streets and sidewalks. The truth is George Town is too crowded when too many people are dumped on us at one time!
Plonker
$5 per passenger !
A meeting? Why not a few district meetings. Doesn’t this issue warrant more than one public meeting? SIGN THE PETITION FOR A REFERANDUM
This public meeting will be a farce. The Moses and Company will spin their program rhetoric and shine on any and all who disagree or disbelieve their spin. After the public meeting the government will declare the project has been proven viable case closed, no need for a referendum.
A better program would be a debate followed by a referendum.
Anonymous 4:53pm , completely agreed , and Moses just have to come clean with the People , and show them how these Investors would be payed back . Moses said that government money won’t be used to build the pier, then he said that government would be collecting millions of dollars per year from the pier , how are these Investors getting their money back ? Are they just building a pier for the Government to collect revenue ? NO ONE ARE THAT STUPID , I think that Moses would try to make you believe it .
IF we look at all of the millions of dollars per year that would have to be payed back to these Investors for next 25 to 30 years . Then ask ourselves the questions , is there more important things that government could’ve spent these millions of dollars on , that is more important to every Citizen of the Islands . We need more money for Healthcare , Sanitation , Education , Law Enforcement and so on . But Moses and government would rather give that revenue to who doesn’t need it .
I think that we need to bring back all of the Founding Fathers , because they cared more for the Citizens , and were more honest with the people than what we have today .
The meeting might be better attended if you mention where and what time it is being held.
CNS: The info is on the poster/Facebook link at the end.
I don’t go on Facebook. When is the meeting?
CNS: You don’t have to go on Facebook. It’s right there on the Facebook posting embedded in the story. You just have to look.
Anonymous 7:06 am , do you really have a brain ?
CNS isn’t really in the business of making things easier for any sitting government regardless of its makeup.
Ok Macbot @9:23. CNS simply writes articles like all other media outlets. Why don’t you go bitch at CayCompass instead of attacking these ladies. I’m sure if it were up to you, CNS would be spewing the CIG propaganda. F’n sheep muppet.
– Muppet “Head” Hunter
CNS: To be fair, I didn’t read the comment as a criticism. To me it just said that supporting government is not the media’s job, which it isn’t, something that many politicians don’t seem to understand.
On the subject of the cruise ship pier . If anyone wants to have a biased journalism laugh , go to the Compass online . There are two articles writing on 20/09/2018 , one is headlined, Moses kirkconnell: why we need cruise berthing piers , which is so full of holes it would sink if it was put near water . the other , Ezzard Miller: the argument against cruise piers .
The laughter is where they allowed Moses to layout his case for cruise piers , but Miller’s case against the piers were all based on questions from Moses case for the piers . With the final score by thumbs up, Moses 109 to Ezzard 25 , and thumbs down Moses 106 to Ezzard 22 . And not a person said a thing about either article .
Doesn’t Dart still control the Compass?
Ron,
You realize Moses and Ezzard wrote those articles, right?
People also don’t comment at the Compass since they won’t allow anonymous commenters.
Anonymous 4:36 pm , if you read the articles , you can clearly see that Moses wrote his article , but if you read Miller’s you can see that Miller didn’t write everything and that some of article was questions that is derived from Moses article , to make Ezzard article look just like the article ended , Miller is for the pier .
I see now why the saying is so true , you can lead the cow to the water but you can’t make the cow drink it .
You mean a Donkey…
This article is just so full of misleading comments and conjecture and so are the comments below it. The Minister really can’t win for losing can he? Where is the communication? Why can’t we have a public meeting? Then when a public meeting is scheduled, the comments are: well we don’t want to hear what he has to say!”
I dont see the comments that you refer to; are we reading the same comments?
CNS
Check out – https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/travel/%e2%80%98i-wouldn%e2%80%99t-go-to-santorini-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-a-threat-to-your-health%e2%80%99-greek-island-under-fire-over-cruise-ship-emissions/ar-AAArqf8?li=BBoPU0T – and ask your readers if they really want these polluting monsters coming here.
Ouch!
Sad sad time we live in.
Next generations would condemn not just your politicians, but you for doing nothing.
What a legacy to leave.
Occupy Cayman Streets! The lunatics must be stopped. They have gone bonkers.
$$$$$money, money, money,…..monnnneeeeey! Lets all say good bye to the 6 billion year old sea bed so we can make some money. What’s wrong with not having some progress? Caymanians all was talk about the way things were, the good ole days and now ya doing it again!
You are right, Anonymous! We have no shortage of corrupt politicians.
why no poor caymanians are politicians? the rich rules in these islands?
Is this an accurate statement. I would argue that their are more poor or middle class politicians than rich ones. If we look at since 2000 which politician between then and now is better off during their time elected in politics than they were before:
Past
Ellio Solomon: Yes
Frank McField: Yes
Linford Pierson: Maybe
Kurt Tibbetts: Maybe
Gilbert Mclean: No
Roy Bodden: No
Mark Scotland: No
Lyndon Martin: No
Rolston Anglin: No
Cline Glidden: No
Winston Connolly: No
Edna Moyle (deceased): No
Mike Adam: No
Marco Archer: No
Wayne Panton: No
Osbourne Bodden: No
Current (more than 1 term)
Alva Suckoo: Yes
Eugene Ebanks: Yes
Mckeeva Bush: Yes
Bernie Bush: Yes
Anthony Eden: Yes
Joey Hew: Yes
Ezzard Miller: Maybe
Dwayne Seymour: No
Alden Mclaughlin: No
Arden Mclean: No
Julianna O’Connor: No
Moses Kirkconnell: No
Tara Rivers: No
Roy Mctaggart: No
From the list above do most of them have businesses or houses or anything to indicate that they came out of politics better off than when they went in as representatives. Can you call many of them rich, definitely not the majority.
This raises the question as to why people leave good paying jobs and career opportunities as lawyers, accountants, engineers, and businessmen to get into politics. Could it really be because they want to serve their fellow man?
There are other perks that comes with being a politician besides a sizable paycheck, good health insurance and pension plan FOR LIFE. No one you mentioned is poor. No one you mentioned is at a disadvantage. And no one you mentioned, obviously wants to be trapped in a law office or an accounting firm on a daily basis. No one in Cabinet is making any kind of personal sacrifice there. Or in the LA. They’re where they want to be, I assure you. Or they’d go back to their “big pay checks” at whatever firm or company, if they could keep up with the private sector pace. But bored much? Who among them wants to forgo all that “power” that’s wielded being called Honorable. With their trips to Europe and beyond all perched on the peripheries of the world stage? (Cayman’s merely a territory, really a colony, so they only get to put on their big boy/girl pants at conferences. They may even get thrown a speaking engagements between setting local policy. But mother country always dictates.)
But I digress. Who among them wants to go back to being a nameless lawyer or bean counter? No, they’re not giving up the shine of being “Honorable” and having their capped 32s spread out in the papers.
Plus, with all those comp tickets, business deals for family, their glowing sycophants aka voters telling them how great they are for doing THEIR JOB, you really think they’re making a sacrifice? Please.
This narrative is at best, laughable. Politicians in Cayman are safe compared to many of their counterparts right here in this region. They go to church on Sunday or the bar room without very little harassment. A little heat thrown their way when they are steering the country into a brick wall, that will affect all of us for generations to come, is not reason to cry foul on their behalf. Sacrifice? Hush.
Not one of them is suffering or sacrificing with their health insurance FOR LIFE.
But just you watch my friends in power. Build that dock, mess with that reef and sea bed and you’ll be RESPONSIBLE for Cayman’s final descent into economic hardship and environmental chaos when the next storm rolls into town. And in the wee hours of the morning, after you’re voted out, or retired some of you know will know, without a shadow of a doubt, that you SOLD OUT CAYMAN’S FUTURE for some crap downtown that no one will ever buy.
That’ll be your legacy, Cabinet.
No.
Christian island ruled by the rich while Jesus the lamb of God walked barefoot and had nowhere to lay his head.
*if you believe the Jesus thing.
Anyone looked at the full page advert they have playing on facebook called cayman port, cayman future? it shows a lovely cruise dock drawing. says something interesting, it says “largely, they will look like this” its’ referencing the piers, but its a clever likely legally avoidable way to say you’ve seen the design when you have not. the design shows no new buildings on the port, yeah, right!! as if we believe there will not be a load of new buildings for certain, pre-ordained retailers to sell their sparkles. give us a break
I hope you’re big enough to apologize just as loudly as you’re belly-aching now when it turns out you’re wrong, and you see there are no new buildings on the port.
It would be nice if we had leaders (or an FCO) that rolled down the windows from time to time and took stock of the geopolitical realities, and our place within the global zeitgeist – and I don’t mean at the FCCA, or Walmart in Tampa. In the remaining months (or hopefully years) we have of Goldilocks “peacetime thinking” in the West, we should be connecting the dots and preparing for, and aligning basic strategic interests with those that will resupply us with food and supplies when the global resource wars begin. Aligning with the China/Russia/Iran/Mongolia camp for the next 25-100 years is probably not optimal, and may put us, and our kids in grave isolated danger. Jamaica and Trinidad are already of considerable strategic interest to the Chinese as puzzle pieces securing the canal resource trade routes connecting them to their resource interests in Brazil. Complete with ports, dry docks, roads rebuilt to optimize artillery movements, and Logistics Parks wired for future command and control centers. If you can’t see what China’s angle is, with lone-bidder sweetheart developments at unbeatable prices, then you are asleep at the wheel. There is no Foreign Corrupt Practices Act restraining behavior or bribes that Chinese officials are more than willing to pay, and no shortage of corrupt politicians willing to accept. The Cayman Islands are just one more strategic puzzle piece in this staging phase.
“In the remaining months (or hopefully years) we have of Goldilocks “peacetime thinking” in the West, we should be connecting the dots and preparing for, and aligning basic strategic interests with those that will resupply us with food and supplies when the global resource wars begin.”
“Complete with ports, dry docks, roads rebuilt to optimize artillery movements, and Logistics Parks wired for future command and control centers.”
Wow. Don’t know what crystal ball you’ve been watching but you need to change the channel Bobo.
You might want to look into what has been going on in other countries with Chinese infrastructure deals before you put on those golden handcuffs.
“An argument against cruise berthing facilities” by late Bo Miller July 30, 2015
https://www.caymancompass.com/2015/07/30/an-argument-against-cruise-berthing-facilities/
Gone too soon. From cancer.
He was a true visionary.
Bo was a dear friend and was way ahead of his time. If you do some more research you will find out that he was part of the consortium to build a floating cruise ship berth instead at Pageant Beach. Such a lost opportunity. RIP my friend. Obviously someone above needed him more than us!
why not invite the public to the freemason’s hall for the meeting? ????
Would the press attend? If they did, they would have to offer a public apology for avoiding the truth for so long.
Did the waterfront merchant funded facebook page tell you to believe that?
You are always harping about the free mason/lodge. What happened you applied to join and no one would sponsor you or what?
If he claims that so many people want to dock why is he afraid of the referendum ?
Read the BIller Paw report and build the dock.
6:37 am: You can take the Biller Paw report and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine!
Build the Dock and after it is finished the people will all say “WHAT A LOVELY DOCK WE HAVE.”
Every single person who signed the petition needs to attend this public meeting. Show the government how the people really feel.
This is what Colombians and mega corporations like Apple are doing to preserve the marine ecosystem. Conservation IS important. Not the domain of “crusaders” from DoE. Bless them.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90236715/apple-is-investing-in-a-huge-mangrove-forest-in-colombia
https://blog.conservation.org/2018/06/saving-the-mangroves-to-save-the-clams-and-a-way-of-life/?utm_campaign=eNews&utm_medium=email&utm_source=FY19_eNews_2018Sept20_C_ND&s_src=Email&s_subsrc=FY19_eNews_2018Sept20_C_ND
Come on Moses, you know that a new dock won’t make cruise ship passenger fork out money for overpriced t-shirts and Waterford Crystal made in China. The merchants downtown need to revamp their business model. It’s a model that’s been dying for years, predicated on fashion trends that predates anybody lovin’ KiKi. She wasn’t even born back when Kirk Freeport was booming. What budget cruiser wants to buy ceramic knick knacks and t-shirts made in a Bangladeshi sweat shop? But still, you want the rest of the country to suffer immeasurable damage for generations to come to appease a few? When you blast away a living organism, it won’t get remade in China. Papa Dart doesn’t possess that super power either.
The GT reef represents millions of years of growth that supports the marine ecosystem that surrounds this Island. That’s why we have a “tourism product” in the first place, Bo Bo.
When other countries are fighting to protect their marine environment, because they UNDERSTAND the benefits $$$, you and other public officials are still prostituting yourselves for a few pennies and votes to kill ours.
No one will win in the long run if that port is built. Not even the merchants with their uninspired business plans. If you can’t find a way to turn a profit on the square footage you currently have downtown, it won’t happen at any other time.
It is sad to see Moses desperately pulling out unreferenced soundbites from yesteryear and/or demonstrably false assertions, hoping to snake oil the gullible into believing there is urgency to surrender to his opaque dealings. Giora Israel, a top Lt of Carnival’s founder, is 65 years old and is at retirement age. Carnival’s port development strategy migrated to his much younger associate a couple years ago, who favors wholly-owned private islands with full-upland revenue and frontier Pacific and European port expansion. Wall street loves this kid. The soundbite on bigger and bigger ships is a pre-recession thought from an address to the FCCA long ago. The order book since, and liner commitments for the mature Western Caribbean theater, demonstrate a completely different business and market reality.
How do ships that haven’t been launched and/or were never destined for our region, become opportunities “passing us by”?
Here’s the order book…100% of the conceived boats of Moses’ description are going to Europe or China: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/cruise-ship-orderbook.html
The three 183,900 GT boats Moses asserts are “passing us by”, haven’t yet gone into service. They are targeted for the cheapest of the lower-end cruise passenger market…AIDA’s AIDAnova with only 5200 (not the 6000 he claims sails by regularly) won’t be delivered in Europe until December of this year, the Costa Smeralda with max 5000 pass, goes to Europe for Oct 2019, and the Carnival TBA, hasn’t started building at Meyer Turku, but maybe finished in late 2020 if it goes ahead…There are a handful of 200,000 GT boats on the order book out to 2027 destined for Europe or China/Pacific itineraries.
The urgency to proceed must be derived from some other undeclared motive he’d rather not talk about. Maybe it has to do with the blatantly conflicted family interests, and cronies expecting soft-dollar deals on the infrastructure spending. If not, if he’s truly Mr Transparent as he alleges, why hasn’t his gov’t set a date to open their personal books and interests and enact the Standards in Public Life Law? Don’t think the rush ahead on deal-making while deferring enactment of a law from 2014 aren’t related.
I just read the order book. All the hoopla from the government for ships that aren’t even slated to come to the Caribbean. Shame on you Alden and Moses.
Anyone who read the order book. In your honest opinion, can $200 – $300 million dollars spent be justified on less than a handful of ships that on average will give us about 1,000 extra passengers maybe (very big maybe depending on routes) twice a month compared to a regular ship IF they come here at all?
Anonymous at 8:17 pm on sept. 20 you seemed to be very much informed. I hope that you attend the meeting and call him out on his misleading stories. I don’t really understand why he is so hell bent on this dock that he would try mislead the public like this. Shameful is what it is.
I hope that the petition organizers will set up a table outside of the meeting to collect signatures
That aught to amuse the minister
Anything to avoid a democratic referendum.
Mr. Kirkconnell, your mandate is to engage your people, otherwise you do not have a democracy. Your choice. Dictatorship or Democracy.
A tree is known by its fruit.
Well they certainly had enough time to pick and choose what details to give out and what to with hold. I will be there with popcorn to enjoy the circus clown show.
Nobody wAnts to hear the lies they are going to tell!! Sign the petition!!
I believe that the reason why Mr. Kirkconnell is going to hold a public meeting , is to counter of Miller holding public meetings , and to brainwash the public and tell them how transparent he has been on this pier project . You believe what he tells you , I have a better and more beautiful beach than the 7 mile beach I am selling cheap .
Moses Kirkconnell is one of the the last of a dynasty of rich Caymanians who parlayed their wealth into a political career masked as a fake concern for their people.
Time longer than rope, BoBo. If Cayman Brac still wants his leadership, they should probably go independent. He can subsidize them out of his own pocket, not ours.
Good luck with that.
You know, the main thing here is that I don’t recall seeing the Unity Coalition logo on the ballots last year…the PPM and CDP both lost the majority to Independent Candidates. Moses repeatedly utters that he has a mandate from the people, as if repeating this insult over and over will somehow make other people believe it. The Unity Govt does not have a mandate from the people, and we did not put them in the drivers seat. The terms of the Unity alliance are so sleezy and secret that we can only guess what they were from what has transpired since. The two parties have demonstrated a common selfish aspiration and an unwilliness to open their finances or declare their conflicts.
Moses you have a mandate from caymanian voters so just build the dock.
Don’t tell lies, 6:00 pm!
What mandate does the PPM have?
They lost 3 sitting ministers and were unable to form a majority government without the help of the CDP and Independents
You might want to look up what the term mandate means before you use it
Anon 8:10 you need to realize what you did. nothing. you may have weakened the PPM but you did not replace them with a TEAM but with a bunch of individuals. the most complete TEAM was the PPM. independents are not a team. so please stop talking stupidness.
After the meeting everyone should sign to not delay building the port.
The people of the Cayman Islands do not want the damn dock! The persons who will get rich from the project are the ones pushing it.
6:52 , you mean the ones that will benefit from pier are the rich , and they are already rich .
Why should we sign if we don’t want or need this white elephant?
Get everyone in the audience to sign the petition.
Sign the petition yes but for the referendum , that’s what I’ll sign , heat in the kitchen now so he will try to lead the blind his way ,,,not today bobo .
Right On, 6:15! Lay it out. I’ll sign it. We don’t want the dock!
I did my part- I signed the referendum today. When I went by Hurleys the table was buzzing. Had to wait in line, so glad I did.