Teacher accused of ‘exorcism’ may return to post
(CNS): The education ministry and other relevant parties are “engaged in active discussions” over the future of the principal of Red Bay Primary School, the ministry has said. Officials confirmed that the Multi-Agency Safeguarding Hub had completed its investigation into allegations that Vickie Frederick acted inappropriately with students when she allegedly performed some form of exorcism at the school in May 2021.
But no one has commented on reports that Frederick returned to the school last week. Responding to questions about this and the findings of the investigation, ministry officials offered a short response to CNS, in line with the ministry’s reluctance so far to reveal anything about the enquiry.
“Further to the completion of the MASH Unit’s investigation, the Ministry of Education and other relevant parties are still engaged in active discussion on the matter. As such, we are unable to comment at this time,” officials stated but gave no indication about the findings of the investigation.
According to Cayman Marl Road and other social media posts, Frederick, who was reportedly serving elsewhere within the education department and away from students following the complaints against her more than 18 months ago, was seen at the school on Friday of last week. She was said to have told a number of people that she was expecting to soon return to her job as principal, a position she held for some 15 years before her partial suspension on full pay.
Although no details have ever been confirmed by officials about the accusations against Frederick, parents had claimed that a number of children were pulled out of class and asked questions about their understanding of their sexuality. They were then subjected to some sort of religious ceremony that was deemed to have been an exorcism. This had frightened the young students, who were told they were possessed by demons and must repent.
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As a Christian I do not support this woman being back in the school room. No one should be treated the way it was reported that she treated children who were entrusted to her care. One’s religious beliefs should not be forced on anyone. The Christian Bible says to “Let every man be fully persuaded by his own mind.” Romans 14:5. Jesus did not force himself on anyone. Over time, and based on my own experiences, my faith has grown deeply. I know that Jesus Christ is no fairy tale or myth, as some have said here, but it is not for me to judge or try to force my beliefs on anyone. When appropriate I share my faith, yes, but I do not attack others for their beliefs either. I am mindful that my Christian Bible also says, “Judge not that you be not judged.” Matthew 7:1. I believe in leading by example and not by force. I believe in being kind and forgiving (although I often struggle with the latter.) Ultimately, I believe in treating others the way I would like to be treated. Perhaps I will be considered a heathen, or a lukewarm Christian, by some, and I am quite ok with that, but some of what is going on nowadays under the guise of Christianity is far from the teachings of Jesus Christ. When we look at who He chose as his disciples we can learn a lot about Him. In relation to the issue being addressed here, I believe it is appropriate to now be reminded of Jesus’ own words in this scripture, “On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers'” (Matthew 7:21-23).”
Our children deserve better. Fire this lady and allow her to carry on her tragic religious zealot habits elsewhere. She is obviously not suited to educating our children to be well rounded adults who can make up their own minds. CIG needs to deal with this now and fast.
Fully agree!
sigh* i’m a believer but forcing it unto people is why many people look at christians the way they do and i honestly can’t blame them since many come with this blunt approach and for those actions toward the students is clearly not acceptable. I’m sorry they had to experience that. Their are there to learn, nothing is wrong with alittle prayer but if it is a place or education, worry heavy on the kids who struggle to read or learn or have short attention span like come on now!
place of education
Fairytales should not be taught nor believed…….. in schools or anywhere else.
“Fairytales” would take out work of William Shakespeare, Derek Walcott, and local author Jackie Bodden.
Please use the correct terminology. The word I believe you were looking for is Religion.
As for religion, it is still tied to much of the world’s past, present and future. Some religions may die out, while others evolve and new ones created. It is a significant part of he human experience.
School is in the business of teaching… reading, writing, arithmetic, physical education, sex education, history, music, art, trades, literature, language, and YES religion.
Certain religions / groups may choose to perform exorcisms, but a school is NOT the place. On children, without parental consent? NO! Without medical and or psychological consultations? NO. How dare she?!
That principal should not be allowed to interact with children in a school again or a place of worship. She should be FIRED from that post. End of conversation.
She should have been FIRED IMMEDIATELY and her teacher qualifications should be revoked to avoid a private school hiring her later.
I’m a Christian but this woman’s behaviour is straight up CRAZY!
She is supported by a majority of the Ministers who also are ‘religious zealots’. This who you elected, this is who you wanted to be in power. Stop complaining for what YOU elected!
If you are a Christian then why do you assume she’s crazy? The Bible is the basis for Christian belief and it includes unambiguous claims that demons are real and homosexuality is a crime worthy of execution. (If you deny this it means you are one of the many Christians who never bothered to read your own book)
You are trying to have it both ways, live in the real world and the fantasy zone of religion at the same time.
She’s no more crazy than the book that defines your religion. Give it some thought.
#blessed
The Old Testament is not Christianity. It’s books are vengeful Abrahamic fire and brimstone myth. Jesus shows up in the New Testament, right at the end. He delivers a new set of Golden Rules which doesn’t exist in the Old Testament. We need to stop pretending that Ring Wing Abrahamic Zealot crazies are the same as Christians. They reside on the furthest ring wing of the continuum where Jesus doesn’t exist yet.
Jesus isn’t.
There are no GodS!
Jesus has never existed………. and never will!
You haven’t read the New Testament. No surprise.
If you take a look, you will find plenty of demons, magic, miracles, and other nonsense in the New Testament. There’s also the troublesome fact that Jesus is quoted in the New Testament as saying he did not come to change any of the old laws, but to uphold them.
#blessed #lame
Everyone’s riled up imagining what happened. No need for facts when your particular buttons are pushed.
Religion does not belong in public school.
Cayman is in that sense no different then Afghanistan or Iran.
The government tells you what to belief.
No freedom of religion.
look how well that turned out
Clearly did not get the message.
America is a good example of what happens when morals, in some form, are not taught in public schools. That country is as the Bible describes it experiencing only the “birthing pains” of what is to come if it does not repent for its blatant child abuse and sex trafficking, defilement and all other manner of wickedness.
The ministry is to blame here.
They have all kinds of programs to force children to accept the christian god.
Lunch programs, after school etc. All focused on abusing these kids.
Children believe what grownups tell them, it in our genes.
Religion takes advantage of that vulnerability and i wish it whould stop.
This lady fits perfectly in this policy.
Is BLING allowed in school.? Put a BIG GOLD CROSS and CHAIN around your children neck and all will be well. Satisfaction guarantee.
Red Bay occupation about to drooooop
#occupyredbay
You’re right. Who in their right mind would send their child to that school? If it was my child no one would have to worry about this principal returning to school. these horror stories about government school teachers are endless. no wonder there are so many issues with the kids.
imagine…. “mom/dad.. the principal pulled me out of class and asked about my sexuality and then told me to repent for my sins etc”. RED!
Parents start talking to your children. Let them know what is or isn’t appropriate.
Ministry…… wow, just wow. No true Christian or any person in their right mind would do that to a child, during school, randomly.
Some of the kids these days be acting like they really need an exorcism.
NO, they need educated teachers! Dumb A.s!
Correct 8.42. Teachers who realize that Caymanian children , in their working lives, are going to have to compete and deal with real world situations on the International stage.
Cayman is not an isolated small Island any more.
Yeah, but point taken.
Firstly I will say that everyone should get their day in court and there is always a chance that some kids cooked this up and if that’s the case it needs to be known.
Bottom line is the truth needs to come out first.
Then…if there is a single shred of truth to the accusations she needs to be locked up. If this is true, her boss needs to be fired as well as the manager of that person. The minister should resign.
If this is true and has been allowed to happen within our education system it is a scathing indictment of the entire system and anyone who even remotely contributes to its failures. We have kids graduating at an alarming rate whom cannot read. They cannot do math. They cannot carry a conversation and have no basis for further education or entrance into the workforce. Stories like this lady (if true) are an indicator of why the system is failing so poorly. She is a principal for God’s sake! If a principal can be this far gone can you imagine the rest of the system.
Time to tear it allllll down and start from scratch with REAL leaders and experts at the top to make it work.
All you all commenting like you don’t even know why she was moved from East End to Red Bay in the first place.
Pray tell. Instead of alluding to rumors, just tell the story as you know it.
Yes. Please explain what you are referring to.
Don’t make accusations if you don’t want to state the facts. What are the facts???
yeah we don’t know – spill the story! All parents deserve to know the truth about what horrors go on in the schools in the name of God and religion.
say what now? spill the beans we wanna know about repeat offenders and the government putting our children at risk knowingly.
Teachers can’t lay their hands on any child, let alone a Principal. Period. It’s terminal cause. She also grabbed little kids as young as 9 and made them drink something while kooking-out on them over their sexuality. That part should be an RCIPS issue. This Principal and the Minister of Education should be relieved of those duties immediately and RCIPS should be involved. The parents should also file a police report if they didn’t do so.
“Further to the completion of the MASH Unit’s investigation, the Ministry of Education and other relevant parties are still engaged in active discussion on the matter. As such, we are unable to comment at this time.”
A few simple clicks led me to the original story… posted July 5, 2021… (https://caymannewsservice.com/2021/05/exorcist-head-teacher-under-investigation/)
What on earth could possibly take so long to discuss about this?
Come on, how do we know those kids weren’t really possessed by demons? Maybe she saved us all by scrubbing the souls of those little monsters.
Seriously though, please grow up Cayman. In school and at home, every minute unna wastes talking about gods, angels, demons and other make-believe things is a minute not spent teaching a child how to read, write and do math. We are failing our young people by making them into lifelong fantasy dependent morons.
#blessed
Amen!!! At least someone can decipher the rheotoric that lawless parents seem to be focused on rather than spending valuable time with their own children to ensure they have a seat at the table in the future as oppose to behind prison walls. Y’al should be happy that someone is praying over y’al children. I haven’t heard that prayer hurt anyone yet.
Of course prayers never hurt anyone. How could they when they are directed at fictional characters?
Even if we leave out the exorcism (which wasn’t administered with sarcasm), she man-handled kids as young as 9 and forced them to drink some mysterious liquid to purify them….over their sexuality! This was the school principal violating human and civil rights. FIRE HER ASS. MoE shouldn’t need to even to convene on the seriousness of this. The parents should file an action against the school, the Ministry of Education, and the Minister herself (she should step down to, or be forced out because of her inability to decide this no brainer case). Outrageous that this is still undecided.
Sadly, repugnantly, some in power in Cayman support her! This is a travesty, and anyone who cares about their children’s education in Cayman should be appalled. This is a real sad reflection on Cayman.
this ^^^^^
All these negative crap by commenters are more than likely the parents of the same group of children whom Principal ‘likened’ to being devil possessed and she thought that a good ‘dose’ of putting the ‘fear of God’ whose name they’d never heard mentioned at home or ever put their foot through a Church Door – hence this hullabaloo from the undisciplined parents!
OK then, not at all an unhinged comment
I hope the ministry does the right thing and put the protection and rights of the STUDENTS FIRST. Some one needs to FACT-CHECK the laws that protect children. Not only from their own parents but OVERALL. No religion should be shoved down our children’s throats. Nor FEAR or TRAUMA instilled in them, in a place where they got to LEARN, and where is secondary to the sanctity of HOME. I have heard some details of this story but who needs to really?! Just knowing that someone, a school leader, decides to insert their personal religious beliefs and practices, is enough to cause any parent to swoon. If this were any where else, there would be a class action suit by parents. Craziness if you ask me. Sheer, utter craziness. Thankfully not my children nor nieces or nephews. Our children have rights. PEOTECTED AND PROTECTION RIGHTS. ANYWHERE THEY ARE. THIS IS ILLEGALLY TRAUMATIZING STUDENTS/CHILDREN.
People are so silly and heartless when they can hide and comment on another’s misfortunes. The real question to be asked is whether the allegations were proven. I know this lady who was the Principal for my daughter. You could not possibly get a more caring and professional servant of the people, teacher and Principal. Ms. Vicky, we know better than the hatred on this forum.
The real question to be asked is whether the allegations were proven.
The real question to be asked is whether the allegations are true!
can your daughter read or write?
Or feel safe, allowed to learn in a nonjudgemental and accepting atmosphere where ACADEMICS is the focus? When I wanted my children to learn about religion, God and spirituality – I did it myself, and with MY church – not anyone else’s!
Yes because multiple schoolchildren got together in private and what? Concocted a story out of thin air and were never caught in the lie? Did they force the Principal to tell them they are possessed by demons ask them about their sexualities?
You people are insane, absolutely insane and if it were my child – it would have gone to court that is for sure, the fact that the parents sat back and let the Dept of Education cover this up and let this woman off the hook is absolutely horrific
I agree, but remember – this is Cayman.
Thats does happen too often tho, but we never hear of those stories.
Not saying the kids in this particular case are lying. just making a point.
We did go to court. The judge sent her back there despite the school safeguarding officer admitting that there were significant safeguarding issues in the school.
She has NEVER, NEVER repudiated the accusations! You can allow your children (If you really have any) to accept her ‘rituals’ (I’m being polite), but I for one will not support her employment in our educational system. The possibility she has been paid while on leave indicates the further ROT of the CIG Ministers to behave ethically. This will not end well for the educational reputation of the students.
Does this set a legal basis that we can perform exorcisms on people we choose, including principals and ministers of education?
Such a shame! Caymanians are you ok with this????
Survey says, more than you think!
Cayman supports her… The world is shaking it’s head at the sad state of affairs on this small rock in the sea that can go away in an eye blink!
Of course they are, why wouldn’t they be. She’s one less caymanian unemployed. She’s someone’s mother, aunt, sister, friend, grandmother, and as such deserves her job regardless of her capabilities to carry out said job.
Minister of Education and this woman are keeping Cayman in the dark ages with their religious zealotry.
Jesus!
Oh this is absurd! If they’re that desperate to keep a religious zealot dinosaur on the payroll, keep her wherever she has been these last 18 months.
Things are going very well with the acting Principal, long may that continue.
Religious zealot dinosaur – talking about the principal or the minister of education?
Both
All two.
Does anyone know why she was”exorcising the children about, allegedly”?
Their sexuality.
She was concerned that they may have been possessed because they weren’t certain that they were heterosexuals.
If my child was her student, I would be raising hell about this!
You are likely doing a great job of it.
Of course she is going to get away with this and be returned to post probably with full pay (assuming her pay was ever affected in the first place which it probably wasn’t)
In Cayman as long as you put ‘Christian’ in front of crazy, you can get away with it
Had this been a teacher talking to students about LGBT issues , or mentioning equality in any way they would have fired her on the spot and she would have never taught in Cayman again but in this theocracy we have dressed up as a liberal democracy they are above the law as long as they keep their threats vague enough and their ramblings general enough
says a member of the anti-Christian club.
Anti-Christian in your definition may mean = pro-logic, humility, ethical conduct, compassion, modesty, lack of vanity… Those positive virtues you so lack.
Card carrying and proud.
“Had this been a teacher talking to students about LGBT issues , or mentioning equality in any way they would have fired her on the spot and she would have never taught in Cayman again”
Rightly so!!!
Yeah those pesky LGBT folks, eating blue iguanas and making our children gay just by looking at them!
Wait, so you don’t believe in equality? Equality for people of different races? Equality between men and women? Or do you just reject equality for people with a different sexual orientation than you?
It would be helpful to know where on the bigotry scale you lie.
As they should…
Can’t say I’m the least bit surprised.
and we wonder why our children are not able to compete in the workforce.
Not only that, they can’t read either
The kids cannot read because parents believe that the school is the only entity responsible for ensuring that their child learns.
The time a child spends with their parents is not spent on reviewing concepts taught in school, so of course ntn is cemented. Then when the child returns to school it is as if the teacher never taught…..especially after the weekends, long holidays, and these random times parents decide to pull their kids for a sudden trip off Island.
Please wake up and realize that teaching children should be a PARTNERSHIP between parents and schools. The kids were not born as adults and therefore they need guidance from both the home and school. One without the other is like carrying water in a basket, ineffective!!!
I hope the parents of the kids in this school push back on this.
No surpise. Have we had a different Minister of Education in 25 years?
Ministry of Education only cares if you’re a straight Christian, not if you’re a straight-A student.
Hear hear! Our Minister of Education has failed miserably on all subjects for 25 years.
For such a small student population, this is absurd.
It also starts with Early Education age 2-5 yet, there is no government focus for the youngest and most vulnerable?
I am sorry but she looks like the one in need of an exorcism. I would not want my child anywhere near her. I hope if she returns all parents will make their voices heard by protesting and keeping their children at home until this backward fool is gone for good.
business as usual in the civil service…..zzzzzzzzzz
just another day in wonderland.
Disgusting! You get what you deserve when you put your children in a 3rd world public school system.
Direct rule now! This is absolutely absurd. NO Caymanian can possibly defend that behaviour.
why no one gets fired in these Islands ? Thats a big reason why its so much wrong doing here.
Sadly, many do.