Cayman gets over 9,600 more vaccines
(CNS): The Cayman Islands received another 9,653 doses of the COVID-19 vaccine from the UK on Wednesday’s British Airways flight, officials have confirmed to CNS, which means that the country now has enough doses to reach the 80% national target. The problem now is getting them into arms. Once again, the ‘needle’ on the vaccination rate has stalled and just 60 more people got their first dose over the last day. With no change in the national rate, 69% of the estimated 71,100 people have had their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, while 46,360 people, or 65%, have completed the two-dose course.
Chief Medical Officer Dr John Lee reported that there were two positive cases of COVID-19 in travellers among the 468 tests carried out over the last day. There are now three active but asymptomatic cases of the virus among those in quarantine and isolation.
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Wow, just released (Monday news release), 175 first doses over the last three days.
7,564 more first doses to go to hit 80% by Sept 9th. And with 7 weeks left, those first doses must be given in the next 4 weeks so that second doses are administered by Sept 9th.
(Going to still wait a few more weeks, Mr. Panton, to address what is plan B when the arbitrary 80% of a mythical population is not met? You reasserted in the parliament last week that nothing moves forward without 80%….so…..)
A federal judge has ruled Indiana University can require its students and employees to get vaccinated for Covid-19.
US district judge Damon Leichty in South Bend rejected a request from eight students aiming to block the requirement while they pursue a lawsuit claiming that the university’s policy violated their constitutional rights by forcing them to receive unwanted medical treatment, the Associated Press reports.
Hundreds of private and public colleges across the United States have introduced vaccine mandates.
Leichty said that the Constitution “permits Indiana University to pursue a reasonable and due process of vaccination in the legitimate interest of public health for its students, faculty and staff”.
Time for UCCI to do the same
Video tweet from Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner and one of the most respected and reasoned voices during the pandemic. With the highly infectious Delta variant, he said you have either been previously infected with Covid, or you have been vaccinated, or you most certainly eventually be infected with Covid.
https://twitter.com/FaceTheNation/status/1417114558402023431
Good post. I recommend everyone watch this one-minute video.
Sad to say, CIG needs to start incentives. Lottery, gifts, alcohol, even direct cash. Need to get this done and soon. Now that there is a published plan, the price to pay for incentives is much less than price of staying closed and missing the plan.
Not even a million dollars would make me get the shot. Nothing is more important in this life than health. Once it is gone, nothing else matters, and even hundred millions dollars won’t bring it back.
You keep jabbing yourself with all kind of “stuff”- I’ll pass. And if it protects you from whatever and you are experiencing no immediate and hopefully long teem side effects, good for you, but I’ll still pass.
You are an idiot.
You’ve just taken an experimental drug that’s so safe the companies received medical negligence waivers. It doesn’t even stop you getting COVID. So who’s the idiot?
When you cannot respect a persons choice and resort to name calling what does that make you?
If, as you say, nothing is more important in life than health, then why for the love of Pete are you not protecting said health? The vaccine is a protective tool to preserve your health and save your life.
You, sir, are a hypocrite.
Nah, just do what Boris Johnson did today (effective September) and France last week….vaccine passports needed to enter crowded indoor nightclubs, restaurants and sporting events. Funny how millions signed up for vaccines in France last week!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nightclub-pub-vaccine-passport-boris-johnson-b1886810.html
Did you see the millions protesting in France on Friday / Saturday demanding liberty ?
CNS: Fact check: Euronews – France: Tens of thousands protest against COVID pass, vaccination
“According to an opinion poll conducted earlier this week, 58% of French people approve the extension of the health pass to cafés and restaurants. 66% are in favour of using it to access cultural venues.”
Reuters was the most generous in terms of numbers, saying it was more than a hundred thousand people.
They were watching the Tour De France.
Exactly. Lockdown the idiots not getting jabbed. No bars, restaurants, cinema, airport, planes, buses, taxis, supermarkets, banks….nothing. and mandatory masks in all public spaces.
It is also time to start limiting the risks posed by the unvaccinated when we carefully re-open. Vaccine passports together with flight restrictions would be a good starting point.
It’s not a vaccine, it doesn’t stop you catching COVID
What’s the point?
CNS: Here’s How Well COVID-19 Vaccines Work Against the Delta Variant
“According to an analysis carried out by Public Health England, two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine appeared to be about 88 percent effective against symptomatic disease and 96 percent effective against hospitalization with the delta variant.”
thumbs up to cns comment
Strategic use of the word ‘appeared’.
UK data shows that the number of hospitalisations has increased approximately 40% and the percentage of deaths has increased 48% in the past week.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
AND 99.5% where unvaccinated people!
Actually 60% are vaccinated (citation in linke below). BUT, it is 60% of very low hospitalizations (1/10th of January hospitalizations). Explanation: most of the unvaccinated are younger people, who have asymptomatic or mild infections, who dont need to present to hospitals. There is, and was expected, to be breakthrough infections amongst the vaccinated who develop symptomatic disease requiring hospitalization (remember, efficacy want NOT 100%). BUT, hospitalizations are WAY down relative to infections.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15635055/double-jabbed-brits-make-60-per-cent-hospitalised-covid/
68.54% of statistics are made up.
87.3% in Cayman.
Yes, but hospitalizations are at 10% of the January peak, when there was almost the same level of cases (I will post facts only with citations, link below).
The best defense one can do is get vaccinated. Covid will be an endemic disease globally. Do we stay closed forever?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15634906/covid-wave-cases-peak-winter-deaths-slow/
Complete BS
Death rate this year is lower that last
UK moves to require vaccine ‘passports’ for crowded venues starting in September.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/19/covid-certificates-to-be-compulsory-for-crowded-venues-in-england
According to Reuters, the average number of new daily cases has tripled in the past 30 days, going from 12,004 to 32,136 between 18 June and 18 July. Over the same period, hospitalisations rose 21% while deaths were up 25%.
When are you going to understand people just don’t to get your shots? LOL
Is it that hard ?
Make a pool.
The results will be SO INTERESTING.
The cold hard truth.
#mybodymychoice
I firmly support the notion of my ‘body my choice’. However there are limits in that regard where communicable diseases are involved and that has been recognised for hundreds of years. That is why I also fully support the moves being made in other countries to limit the contacts and risks that the unvaccinated pose in public places.
30 million have died from HIV, maybe separate those people first.
CNS: That is the height of ignorance. Learn how HIV is spread.
Did you take both shots of the vaccine?
Do you believe it is effective?
Then what threat are the unvaccinated to you? Moreover, what right have you to endorse the restriction of movement of them, if you believe them to be the people most at risk?
Are they not allowed their own choice?
Unvaccinated people once infected, have a higher chance of allowing mutations to happen. This is because an unvaccinated person will allow the virus to replicate far more than in a vaccinated person. Those mutations the virus picks up could eventually evade the vaccine and that’s why you not taking it will eventually be problematic for everyone…
Im fine with that (Ive been double vaxxed since March). But Dear Leader wont advance his plan without more vaxxing.
So we are at a stalemate: you wont get vaxxed and Dear Leader wont move forward until you get vaxxed.
So where does that leave the majority vaxxed people??
how do you feel about abortion?
Pursuing an insane strategy.
In the beginning of the pandemic it was looking as though the mortality rate was two percent. It was rational to halt flights and take serious precautions while we got our arms around a strategy and learned what we are dealing with. Within months it became apparent that the IFR (infection mortality rate) was far less than 2% and in fact many magnitudes less and closer to .03%. We also had a history to guide us where vaccines are concerned. It normally takes years sometimes more than 5 years to produce a vaccine that has an efficacy of 65%. This is the point where leadership needed to make rational and holistic decision. Instead they chose draconian measures in the hope that miraculously a vaccine would be available. Remember it could have taken years and maybe never but we gambled on a vaccine. Well, a scientific miracle happened and we got a vaccine, but not an ordinary vaccine, a vaccine with a 95% efficacy rate. We also received enough vaccines for everyone who wants one. But that still wasn’t good enough. Now we are waiting for an 80% vaccination rate which by all reasonable estimation will be near impossible to achieve but that’s beside the point. Whether we get to 80% or not, the leadership in Cayman has failed miserably to demonstrate the courage necessary for their positions. We are operating now purely on conjecture, fear and hopium. That is no way to lead. We also aren’t being told what the plan is if we don’t reach 80%. It very sad to watch.
OMG, you’re an idiot. I can’t believe 50 people gave you thumbs up.
If the fatality rate was only 0.03% even if every American adult (200m) caught COVID, only 60,000 Americans would have died. In fact, not every American got COVID (estimates are around one third) and 600,000 died.
In addition, that death rate includes everyone over the age of 18. It’s not evenly distributed. The fatality rate doubles for every six years of age. If the average age of the adult population is 40, a 64 year old is 8 times more likely to die from covid than the average adult.
Sorry, .03 was slightly high.
“Results I included 61 studies (74 estimates) and eight preliminary national
estimates. Seroprevalence estimates ranged from 0.02% to 53.40%. Infection fatality rates
ranged from 0.00% to 1.63%, corrected values from 0.00% to 1.54%. Across 51 locations,
the median COVID-19 infection fatality rate was 0.27%”
https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf
You were saying something about an idiot?
Prof Andrew Hayward, the head of the Institute of Epidemiology and Health Care at University College London and a member of the government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), told Sky News this morning that the country was facing the biggest wave of Covid ever seen. He said:
We are heading into the biggest wave of Covid infection that we have ever seen and, even though the vaccine will substantially reduce the number of deaths and hospitalisations, it’s still likely that we will see somewhere in the low tens of thousands of deaths even if we are cautious.
And that could move into the mid and high tens of thousands of deaths if we just went back to normal activity.
#FearMonger
This is a link to statement made by professor Hayward, stating that we are going to see “substantial reductions “ in cases and that the worst is over….and in any case we will need to just learn to live with it.. 🤨 not quite what you are trying to attribute to him.
https://news.sky.com/story/society-will-have-to-live-with-substantial-covid-deaths-but-worst-is-over-sage-expert-says-12236536
Thanks for providing the link. The professor also said this:
“He added death rates could begin to look more like those for flu.”
CNS: Because of the vaccines. Full quote: Professor Andrew Hayward, from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE), said the number of deaths will continue to drop as vaccination kicks in. He added death rates could begin to look more like those for flu.
ONLY because people don’t get the shot!
60% of U.K. hospital admissions have had double vaccines.
60% lol
Not true. The quote on that statistic by Johnson was later amended as he was incorrect.
The graphics accompanying this tweet (link below) from one of the US’s most respected doctors and scientists say it all. Listen to people like this and not disinformation.
“No matter how you slice it, by US counties, by US states, by countries, high rates of vaccinations are preventing hospitalizations and are saving lives. If not for yourself, help others stay healthy. Get vaccinated”
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1416801104717762565
These people are the ones pushing the vaccine, what would you want them to say, ‘the vaccine doesn’t work. Stop quoting these sources and make your own conclusions. We can think for ourselves, if all the information is available.
People doing their “own” research is how we have so many people believing ridiculous things like the moon landing being fake, the earth being flat and vaccines don’t work. Read respected sources for information. If your best source is social media, you may be an idiot…
We should open up, the virus is not discriminating against the unvaccinated and its survivable.
CNS: CDC Director Walensky: ‘This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated’. See video here.
It is not survivable for everyone.
There is no proof this is the case, unless they provide the details of the deaths.
Thank you CNS for your ongoing efforts to educate – maybe you should add ‘troll’ and ‘idiot’ buttons to the ‘like’ and ‘dislike’ options.
You should have several seats and hush.
They are help bent on jabbing everyone, you think they would say differently CNS. That is the narrative I am expecting from the CDC director. Where are the deaths and where are the details, this information is not forthcoming, so why are we trusting this information. The virus is not the enemy of the human that are making it out to be. I still say it is not discriminating against the the unvaccinated. Show me the detail.
There’s a chance PACT are right to make it unlikely we’ll hit the 80% for now…at risk of upsetting people, there are some news items from across the globe that should pause is for concern:
UK restricting vaccines to over 15’s unless vulnerable
Israel is now restricting fully vaccinated access to their country, and the numbers of severe ill in their hospitals are mostly fully vax’d
UK hospitals have also started to acknowledge that patients severely ill are fully vax’d and outnumbering the non vax’d
USA reports are coming out showing increasing alarm at vax complications
Canada ordering 80 million booster shots thru 2024!
More reporting coming out regarding natural immunity outlasting vax immunity
PACT May just very well be correct to keep us slow and steady and monitor what happens when all the ‘essential travelers’ return….there’s every chance the variants will spread in the coming weeks as even 5 days quarantine is known not to definitively cease transmission, and the vaccines do t stop you getting it or transmitting it
Ensuring another 6mo this or so of pain just may be the right move despite it’s obvious negatives
There is so much in this post that is untrue and totally made up. It is too bad can’t flag for disinformation.
Written by a Pact member.
Do you stay up all night coming up with these falsehoods or do they come easily to you?
Sure wish you would have provided citations for you points, most of which I have not seen or read. Some fake news here I suspect.
Many will not like this as you are going against the narrative.
“UK hospitals have also started to acknowledge that patients severely ill are fully vax’d and outnumbering the non vax’d”
This is so false. Over 95% of the hospitalized in the UK are unvaccinated.
Links to your “facts” please
Irrespective of who is heading the principles of preventing and managing this pandemic are the same based on best practices and advice from PAHO,WHO,CARPHA CDC and Public Health England. We have done well so far. But the rate calculation may be problematic. The estimated pop may not be exact. Also the denominator should be the eligible pop. If we r using total pop for rate calculation it will show less. Possibly most of the eligible adults might have got vaccinated. A small quick survey in offices and shops may reveal true nature.
To be perfect we may need door to door survey of who got vaccinated or not .
I agree. Have a civil servant with ID stationed outside every supermarket asking each customer if they have been vaccinated and if not, why not. If they say yes, ask for their ID so it can be checked.
Worry about going door to door to find out who needs their boosters for “immunity”. They’re a lot people who are adamant not hesistant about not getting this Mrna experimental not yet FDA approved covid vaccination.
You want to find out who is vaccinated? Well we want to find out which vaccinated person is “immune”.
If you come to my door better show me where does it say on your vaccination ID’s,passports, w/e.. that you’re immune to covid after recieving the jab?
Show me the evidence that you’re immune after being inoculated with an experimental vaccine.
If you can’t don’t bother open your damn mouth and don’t let the door hit you on the way out or i’ll have to sanitize it all over again.
Makes it unlikely that you will catch it and I’m quite happy with a way better chance of not dying if you do still catch it… Good luck to you when you get it.
As a UK expat I am disgusted at the UK government wasting these vaccines on Cayman.
Please send them somewhere they are appreciated as this OT quite clearly does not want them.
And to CIG stop calling the flights out repatriation if they were they would be one way. Maybe start calling them ‘let’s turn a blind eye to the wealthy and the wink wink my friend who can come and go as they please.
10.08pm Regarding CAL flights which are always fully booked, how many are staff or ex staff travelling on concessionary tickets?.
So true – it’s absolutely scandalous that UK tax payers are funding these vaccines which have also been given to children and overseas visitors completely without authorisation. It’s astonishing this hasn’t been picked up by the UK media.
In May 2019 there was an article about deaths from car accidents in Cayman over the span of one year. 2,353 accidents. 8 deaths. Therefore, if one gets in a car accident, in Cayman, 0.34% chance of death. Now, we’ve had 622 Covid cases. 2 persons have died. Ignoring any underlying conditions, age, heart attacks, that is still a 0.48% chance of dying from Covid. Do you know what 0.34% (car deaths) of 622? 2 people! Some will be quick to say one is contagious and one is not. Well those 622 people caught it because it was contagious and only 2 died. Plus we have the vaccine now. So can someone explain why Cayman fears this virus so much? I mean with some facts and not insults!
Plus masks equal seatbelts and the vaccine represents being accident free. For those afraid of Delta please monitor hospitalization as opposed to cases.
CNS: Naples Daily News – COVID-19 hospitalizations surge across Florida; restrictions return in parts of nation
The reason public health authorities look at cases is because they are a precursor to a rise in hospitalizations and deaths.
Thank you CNS
Your logic is a year old and weakly linked today. You do realize people across the globe are now faking positive COVID to get out of work/school?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210705-how-children-are-spoofing-covid-19-tests-with-soft-drinks
CNS: You’re exhausting. The article I linked is three days old and your response is not a logical rebuttal; it’s just a random thing that you think supports the anti-vax position.
The tests you cite are the rapid lateral flow tests, which are basically for home use. They are not included in the official stats and certainly would not account for hospitalizations or deaths. The article you linked is about kids bunking off school in the UK. While I have no doubt that kids everywhere will watch the same TikTok video showing them how to do this, extrapolating that to “people across the globe are now faking positive COVID to get out of work” is called “making stuff up”.
Hi CNS,
Going forward cases are going to be less and less important for a vaccinated population. They will not be a precursor for hospitalizations and deaths among the vaccinated.
The virus will be endemic in most countries, likely including Cayman but a vaccination rates increase and treatments improve bad outcomes will be reduced.
Realistically most of us, even if vaccinated may get Covid in the course of our lifetimes. Perhaps several times. It will become more like the flu and or the common cold.
I expect the model Singapore is proposing will become more common as time goes on and vaxed rates improve.
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/singapore-covid-plan-intl-hnk/index.html
It would be humanly impossible at this time. There are no verifiable facts anymore. There is only my way or the high way facts. We can only(for now) choose for ourselves what to believe in. That will change in time. The more ignorant the population the more time it will take and the less choices will be available.
There are lots of verifiable facts and they do support the fact that Covid exists, the vaccines work and Tucker Carlson is full of crap. You are just too lazy to look…
Cayman has turned into North Korea of the Caribbean.
People have no idea that the world, the USA including, has moved on.
The problem in cayman, I believe, is not Covid19 or unvaccinated people, but the fear that local hospitals/doctors won’t be able to handle even a handful of cases that would require a hospitalization.
Based on what I have read so far (CNS and Compass), people who were admitted with Covid19, remained hospitalized for much longer than the median length of hospitalization in the US. Why? Lack of experience or being overcautious?
In the States, only about 25 to 33% of those who are hospitalized need intensive care. At this time, hospital care for coronavirus is focused on what’s called supportive care, or treatment to support the body’s vital organs. Ventilators are used as the last resort only.
So the questions people should be asking are not how many got the jabs, but what is the capacity of local hospitals, the availability of certified respiratory therapists (CRT) with covid treating experience. Believe or not, lives of people with severe covid would depend not on pulmonologist’ expertise, but on CRT’s experience.
HSA had enough time not only to recruit experienced CRTs, but to make sure they stay on top of the latest developments in treating covid, not just theoretically, but practically as well.
Your new government’s answer to all this seems to be to promise to legalise cannabis!
decriminalize not legalize. Two different things
It would still lead to more people using it, with the resultant catastrophic impact on road safety and mental health.
A sharp increase of Covid cases, exacerbated by the Delta variant, has led to residents of Los Angeles County in the United States being required to wear masks once again.
The new mandate began late last night, according to the Associated Press, with people forced to wear masks indoors again even if they have received both coronavirus vaccine doses.
In a county of 11 million people, it is understood the majority of new cases are among people who have yet to receive their first vaccination.
Cases. Who cares about cases? UK opening up fully tomorrow… there will be a surge and massive cases, maybe record cases, but SAGE and uk government tonight released the official data…deaths are at one sixteenth of last wave due to vaccines. No one cares about cases. When cayman opens we will have thousands of cases, it’s unavoidable, but if you get vaccinated you won’t get seriously ill. Stop posting about cases, means nothing!
The UK is predicting 100-200 deaths per day from Covid within the next 6 weeks. acceptable collateral damage to some no doubt.
7.28am Cancer kills over 450 people each day in the U.K., and has for years, put that in your pipe and smoke it, but tobacco will give you cancer and ganja will destroy your brain.
So what’s an extra 200 am I right?
Wrong!. It’s a terrible disease, mostly uncurable, but people have learned to live with it, as we need to with Covid.
If people had the good sense to be vaccinated it’s highly unlikely they will die. The problem Cayman faces is it is going to open the border, that’s a fact. People not getting vaccinated will catch it and some will die. The islands simply cannot stay locked up forever. CIG should set a date and then everyone knows, vaccinated = safe, unvaccinated = not safe. Simple really.
So the vaccine doesn’t work but a cloth face nappy does. Got it
This really says it all. From today’s Wall Street Journal.
“AdventHealth, which manages 41 hospitals across seven Midwestern and Southern states, said about 97% of roughly 12,700 Covid-19 patients treated this year were unvaccinated or partially vaccinated.
HCA Healthcare Inc., one of the nation’s largest hospital systems, said its data show fully vaccinated people account for less than 1% of its Covid-19 patients.
“Clearly, from what we’re seeing in the natural experiment of vaccinated versus unvaccinated Americans, those who are unvaccinated almost exclusively are the ones who are in hospitals with Covid” said Johathan Perlin, HCAs chief medical officer”
Thank you thank you UK.
Panton’s policy if artificially tripling cayman airways flight costs and not letting BA out on flights for vaccinated residents to Europe, so that he can try and keep their money here, won’t work. I would estimate I would spend 5000 dollars each summer with a month away on vacation in the UK and Europe. I am determined to do no more staycations here and am only eating out in restaurants where I know the bar and waiting staff (usually expats who are Italian for example) and owners are vaccinated. Similarly I’m doing a kitchen and bathroom renovation this summer and have made it clear that no plumber, electrician, contractor, painter or anyone is allowed entry and to work on my house without showing me their HSA vaccination card. If the unvaccinated are determined to keep cayman locked forever and prevent us from traveling and having freedoms when we vaccinated folk have done our part for the economy and public health, I am determined to limit my hard earned dollars going to anyone unvaccinated in cayman as much as possible. Their is no point in a vaccination programme unless it brings rewards… as with other developed countries and the UK etc it must be made clear in the basis of fairness that people choosing not to be vaccinated will not be allowed to travel, when the airport opens and cannot enjoy the same freedoms here as those who are vaccinated, it is entirely logical and will no doubt be announced soon given the 80 per cent target seems unreachable currently.
There hasnt been an open Cayman Airways seat in a long time, both to or from Cayman, sold out all summer.
Why not add a couple more flights a week for residents?? Panton has locked us in our country.
He has locked us out, too.
Because everyone who comes in risks us all. Hence Essential travel only.
With quarantine the risks to us all are infinitesimal- way more likely to get hurt or killed by a stray shot in the gangland shootings or by a drunk driver. Do you see the same level of effort going into eliminating those risks?
So stay closed forever? Covid is not going away.
We all know the travel going on is NOT all essential travel.
What is the difference if a local leaves and returns or a tourist comes and then leaves?
Both have been out of the “bubble” at some point.
Or are the locals somehow special and could never be carriers of covid?
Travel either in or out should only be for vaccinated travelers and it should not matter if you are a local, expat or tourist. The whole argument does not make sense.
Look around, and ask around. There are plenty of clueless tourists here wandering around seven mile, in restaurants, and driving around lost in rental cars. They certainly didn’t come here for “essential travel,” and will tell you that they are vacationing, many saying it’s their “first time ever” in Grand Cayman. How are they being allowed in by travel time? That’s a question that should be asked.
Had to claim they knew a local or maybe they are getting medical treatment ( i.e. shopping/partying needed a different locale than Miami)
According to them, they just apply and say “vacation “ as reason for visit. No problem, as long as they quarantine for the required time (10 days vaccinated or 14 days unvaccinated). Many rent a quarantine location with a pool and just stay at their pool/house waiting to be released to vacation
2.09pm How many are civil servants going for “urgent” medical treatment who don’t have to worry about the airfares or hotel bills, and how many are otherwise travelling on CAL’s concessionary fares.
Show me your evidence the vaccination card ensures the person is immune and can’t catch or spread the virus.
I like your idea about not allowing any unvaccinated people in my home that I pay. I’m all over that too
Such diatribe, why not just tell the people where to go to eat and eat. Your anger is directed at the wrong group of people. and if this is virus for the unvaccinated, where the deaths.
They are coming… cases are always a precursor to deaths and cases are skyrocketing in the UK.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210705-how-children-are-spoofing-covid-19-tests-with-soft-drinks
CNS: These tests are the rapid lateral flow tests, which are basically for home use. They are not included in the official stats and certainly would not account for hospitalizations or deaths. The article is about kids in the UK fooling their parents to play hooky.
Exactly vaccinated = freedom of movement, unvaccinated = locked down. No bars, restaurants, cinema, hotel, airport, flights nothing. You want freedom = get vaccinated. Panton knows this but hasn’t the balls to do it.
Prudence is one thing, isolationism is another. We are just going to sell the place we love, because it looks like the island will stay closed forever. Maybe some day we will come for a visit, but with legal ganga, handouts for free, crazy crime, and nobody wanting to get moving again, this is much worse than Ivan.
Agreed – I normally visit every year but it’s starting to look more and more like other Caribbean nations I avoid – and isn’t there enough death and destruction on the roads without encouraging more people to take drugs?!
Is the vaccine a drug?
No, a vaccine is not a mind-altering, mood-altering drug.
What we are supposedly allowed to do and what is actually possible are two different things. By restricting the number of flights in and out CIG have effectively locked everyone except the rich and their friends down on island all summer.
I agree. It is so unfair that they have allowed only 2 to 3 flights a week, that have been fully sold out for the rest of the summer for weeks.
(I am fully vaccinated for months and willing to do the returning quarantine.)
Is this North Korea for gods sake?
No it’s looking more like Nazi Germany with all these needles trying to be forced into people.
If you weren’t so young, you wouldn’t make such a dire comparison. It is going to be okay. Let your government (if it IS your government) wrangle this ever-changing system.
The world is engaged, and everything is changing. Buckle up and be glad you are blessed to live here.
Perfect – thank you!
I wish Mr. Panton would just hold one more press conference, so Wendy can ask the very simple question everybody wants to know the answer to:
“What happens if we do not reach 80% by September 9th?”
The bigger question is what happens if COVID cases keep skyrocketing in Florida like they have the past week? Miami is our gateway, not London, and if things don’t get under control soon in Florida don’t know how we can open up here in September.
Skyrocketing Hubert? You need serious help!
People in Cayman truly lost touch with reality.
In Florida people stopped talking about covid long time ago.
Yeah 4:20, especially the 40,000 people who died of COVID in the past year. They certainly did stop talking.
1:30, You think I need serious help? Well try this information on for size.
Over the past week, 45,603 new COVID cases were identified in Florida, an average of 6,515 new cases per day. That is far higher than the 23,562 new cases and 3,356 daily average from the previous week, which had already been Florida’s worst week since early May.
So put on your big boy smart pants and think about those figures.
I can help you if you need some mathematics tutoring. Tutors can be helpful in math.
Facts hurt unless you are a Trump or Governor DeSantis supporter then facts have no meaning.
What cases? Symptomatic positive? Asymptotic positive? Repeats? Hospitalized symptomatic positive? In ICU cases? Vaccinated symptomatic positive? Vaccinated asymptotic positive? Absolute numbers mean nothing.
In the past month the stats in Florida, by county, show a direct relationship between the counties with low vaccination rates and high numbers of people getting COVID.
The exact same relationship applies in Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri and Texas. No coincidence that those states have the highest rates of new COVID cases in America.
Sad but true. The stats don’t lie.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210705-how-children-are-spoofing-covid-19-tests-with-soft-drinks
CNS: This is at least the third time you have posted this link but it doesn’t prove what you think it does. Please stop. These tests are the rapid lateral flow tests, which are basically for home use. They are not included in the official stats and certainly would not account for hospitalizations or deaths. The article is about kids in the UK fooling their parents to play hooky.
Cases mean nothing. It is hospital admissions, icu beds and deaths. Only ignorant unvaccinated are at risk. People have had long enough. OPEN THE BORDER.
Hubert, I truly don’t think you have a reasonable understanding of what is happening in the world with covid.
The rise in cases in Florida is due to the number of unvaccinated people. The vaccinated are not suffering from this “wave” whatsoever. The vaccines work, but if the uneducated and ignorant are unwilling to get the vaccines, then they will just have to suffer the consequences and then we will reach herd immunity by way of those people finally becoming infected. So one way or another, nature is going to take it’s course. Please, before you start spewing things about the US, or Florida, read and understand.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/07/17/travel-florida-pandemic-unvaccinated-delta-variant/
https://www.wesh.com/article/new-covid-19-cases-florida-double/37051099#
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/563402-white-house-florida-accounts-for-20-percent-of-all-new-covid-infections
You cannot prevent covid infections unless you intend to close the island forever.
The moment we reopen, just like the seasonal flu there will be more infections.
This whole thing was about “flattening the curve” remember? Not prevent humanity from ever being sick again.
Get off the hysterics.
No one is dying on Florid from Covid, more people get killed just getting to work.
231 people died of COVID last week in Florida. What they all had in common is that all 231 were not / not vaccinated.
Perhaps you need to look at some facts 2:49 and stop talking about hysterics.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-florida-coronavirus-friday-july-16-20210716-mjpad6xhrjc5tlobeumcaadl4u-story.html
13 in the BVI in the last 2 weeks. Your self entitlement is capable of killing substantial numbers of people.
100% in BVI were unvaccinated.
You r correct sir. Covid is going to remain atleast endemic level. Vaccination doesnt protect from infection if exposed to an infected person but protect from severe illness and death. Secondly any vaccine will not provide antibodies in every one. Usually vary between 80 to 90 percent depending on vaccine and ability of body to prepare them based on age,medical conditions including cancer and drugs used. So although vaccinated we need to be prepared for worst when a serious case or death occurs
Then why do 90% (ha) blame the unvaccinated spreading the virus when very clearly the vaccinated can too?
Easy answer. Idiots
You r correct sir. You can not close the islands forever.also if we want to go to USA or any other if we dont accept their certificates they woudnt accept ours.
If we quarantine them they will quarantine us. Equity prevails. We need to think
Hubert is correct. 20% of all new COVID cases in the U.S. last week were in Florida. All related to the Delta variant.
Well, for the unvaccinated it means illness, and possible death. For the vaccinated it means asymptotic infection and nothing at all. Due to the losers who refused to get vaccinated, this virus is likely to become endemic. So we are all just going to have to learn to live with it.
Which will be why he is not holding a press conference.
We are clearly not going to hit “80%” in the next 7 weeks, and maybe not for a quite awhile (months) after that. If the Premier is intent on moving nothing forward with the plan without 80%, lets see if he can hold his razor-thin coalition together. I doubt every member of the coalition is keen on potentially having no visitors again this winter and continuing to restrict the ability of residents to fly off the island by artificially limiting flights.
Razor thin?..Only you and Alden believes that crap..
PPM didn’t lose the election..Alden..
The election was stolen by the Democrats…Trump
See any correlation?
You r correct sir. 80 percent coverage to get herd immunity is a good target. But it should be of eligible population. Even the estimated 71000 may not be exact. In large pop like uk us slight variation in estimate may not affect but do in small pop.
10.05pm Last year when infection rates were at their highest and community transmission was significant, the worst anyone suffered if they became positive were symptoms of the common cold and that was before anyone was vaccinated. Our”immunity” was never really explained, but I doubt even with Delta we will be under serious threat. Govt is killing the geese that lay the golden eggs they all benefit from.
Phase 3, September 9th, subject to 80%. One week in, the multi-color plan is already stale and clearly unachievable by Sept 9th!
https://www.exploregov.ky/reopening-plan
Panton is probably realizing that he has now boxed himself into a corner and maybe is going to wait a few weeks before changing course (we arent going to hit 7,800 more first doses needed to hit 80% by doing a little over 300 a week like the past week).
Cayman’s vaccination rate is very, very high, almost the leader in the world. See link below (you have to add Cayman to the chart by typing “Cayman” in the list on the left.
(Gibraltar shows a vaccination rate of greater than 100% because they allowed Spanish nationals to come over the border to get the vaccine).
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
Now that we have all of these doses available, we need to put in place the law immediately that all work permit holders entering the country must be vaccinated and if not they must go through quarantine and vaccinated as soon as they are out of quarantine..failing that they must leave..period.
I was thinking the same thing. Personally I’d happily pay kyd 500 for a third Pfizer, a double astra and a moderna shot. The idea of people being offered cash to take a free vaccine that will save their life is truly bizarre. But then we do love in a country where 50 per cent are expats who drove the economy and pay for them as they aren’t capable.
Happy to leave. My body my choice
Except you can’t because there aren’t any flights. Maybe hitch a ride on a canoe to Jamaica- seem to be plenty of those.
Not many seats on the flights to Miami but plenty on the Jamaica and Honduras flights with connections anywhere in the world you would like to go…Where there is a will, there is a way..
Better start booking now because it is just a matter of time for the law to come into place.
What are you waiting on? For the law to be put in place..Stop talking foolishness, you wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t benefitting you financially..
Your body, your choice. Our Island, our rules, our choice..
Great that you understand that, so seeya!
I’ll drive you to the airport
Why not offer them the first shot on arrival, and the last on the final day of quarantine?
Because you have to wait a minimum of 3 weeks between Habs and quarantine is 2?
Plus two more weeks, as you arent considered “fully vaccinated” until two weeks after second shot! So 5 weeks 🙂
Or you could just shoot them. Not like you care about their lives or rights. If you don’t want to live with expats then you should try to figure out how to survive without them. Period. If expats wanted to kill Caymans economy all they would have to do is leave and take their money with them.
A small island nation with no capacity of itself to produce anything let alone something as complicated as vaccine against a deadly disease, gets them for free from another country, and still have so much venom against expats. Truly amazing
Who’s bringing the virus here?
Yea, keep your fork tongue between your teeth and there won’t be any venom.
You really believe that only expats are bringing the virus back to Cayman and Caymanians are not? This finally explains why Caymanians like you are afraid of everyone and everything not Caymanian. Truly normal for here.
I think your concept of this is very much wrong. I don’t think anyone is asking expats to leave, they are asking them to do what is necessary to help the health and safety of their small island nation and that is by getting vaccinated.
Have you even thought what would happen to you if you developed covid on this island? When they open the borders covid will take root, no one is doubting that..Now as an expat myself, my biggest concern is more about how is the Cayman Islands going to handle the influx of covid cases? How many beds/ventilators trained staff do they have?
I love it here and want to stay. I know that I must do my part and not be selfish. I’m in my thirties and could easily take the line that I’m healthy and in shape so why bother taking the vaccine..that was my thought until 3 of my friends at home have died from covid. They were no different from me strong and healthy but even in my home country they weren’t able to be saved. Unfortunately, for them unlike me they were not even able to get the vaccine and died before they even got the chance to get it even if they wanted to. Why am I saying all of this? It is to say to all of my fellow expats particularly those who feel invincible, remember that the health care resources on this island are very limited and you cannot leave once you have covid and your families will not be able to come here to be with you particularly if they have chosen to be unvaccinated as well. I don’t want to catch covid and my chances of survival are better with the vaccine than without it. I don’t want to spend my last days in a Cayman hospital away from my family and friends and I want to have the best chances of survival. My biggest fear though is that the two hospitals that have ICU’s will be full and we end up with situations like in the USA where people are treated in the hallways.
I have not been able to attain this information but maybe CNS can enquire and let us know..How many ICU beds in the two hospitals are available to isolate covid patients? Is there a plan to convert a wing of the hospitals into an isolation unit for covid patients if the number of patients outnumber the ICU unit? Do the hospitals have enough staff to deal with covid patients if a large number of cases occur? I know when the first patient was diagnosed with covid here we lost an entire hospital to staff having to be isolated? What if that happens again?
We are getting close to re-opening. It scares me that everyone isn’t thinking about the consequences of that and are still focused on reasons they should not take the vaccine..It’s crazy. we have lived in this bubble for too long..Reality is on its way to Cayman and we better all get ready.
But Juju and half the Caymanian population are not vaccinated and won’t be going anywhere so you might have to leave. Period.
Isn’t Juju the Minister of Education? This says so much about our education system and Islands.
I am immunity compromised and cannot take the vaccine. And yet, I still am against forcing anyone to to have the vaccine, even health workers. Their body, their choice!! Taking away a person’s livelihood because they won’t take a vaccine???? This offends every sense of what is right to me
I agree that all work permit holders should be vaccinated but that will not get us to 80% nor will that keep the Island residents protected. Any tourist industry business must also prove 100% of eligible staff have been vaccinated also every census worker and every Caymanian signing up for WORC employment. Even then we likely won’t reach 80% unless the 12-18 year olds get vaccinated.
You agree that all work permit holders must take the vaccine but not all Caymanians. What does that tell you? I know what that tells me.
There is no means to force every Caymanian to get the jab. PACT wants Caymanians to get the tourism jobs. Why not also make vaccination mandatory for tourist facing employees – Caymanian or work permit.
Can we get a third shot, aka a booster if we want one? I was vaccinated in early March and the Delta variant is worrisome. Still can not fathom why people won’t get vaccinated. Guess they are afraid, or maybe misinformed. But this is the biggest clinical trial in history, and with all of the data we have, we can reasonably state that the Pfizer vaccine is both safe and effective.
So is Johnson and Johnson sunscreen! I’m vaccinated, but I can neither swear by these companies nor mock those who choose not to get vaccinated. Everyone is taking a risk!
Pfizer has said they will apply for an Emergency Use Authorization with the FDA for a third booster, but only for the most vulnerable (such as nursing home residents who were vaccinated in December) and front line doctors who are exposed to high viral loads.
Pfizer has said that it doesnt believe that the general public will need a booster this winter and thus wont seek an EUA. Their data shows that their vaccine is highly efficacious against preventing symptomatic disease from the Delta variant (in the 90% range).
History lesson is we learnt how long a vaccine works is by experience as time passes. Possibly a yr based on flu vaccine although can be longer.better something rather none and use mask sanitize maintain physical distance avoid crowds and indoors for a yr😁😁
Can we?
Too much evidence to the contrary. Sorry.
Mis-information works both ways. This medicine has been politicized because of economies not solely your health. You must respect peoples choices. Many choose not to take the vaccine from an informed position.
Then tell your Premier that you are unvaccinated and will choose to remain unvaccinated. Fine. Then the Premier can open things up and allow more flights so residents can travel.
A prime example of how mis-information starts. The poster does not declare they are not vaccinated!
For you maybe. I understand that you are ready and willing to risk another persons health and life to make yourself feel safe. There are many with health issues that make it dangerous to take any purely chemical cocktail directly into their bloodstream. I am just one of them. P.S. I have had and will continue to take any other vaccines that have no chemical’s that I am intolerant of like the regular flu vaccine..
I could say the same thing about those refusing to get vaccinated. They are willing to risk another person’s health because they are more likely to catch and spread covid to those who are legitimately unable to get the vaccine for medical reasons.
9.19am I bet you’re not intolerant to alcohol.
1 year of data? Lol… it can take years for side effects to manifest and be proven through data studies.
The truth is NO ONE really knows how safe they are over the long term.
This being exactly why the FDA et al have not fully approved the vaccines and they are still being administered through Emergency Use Authorizations
Rubbish. I think I will trust the world’s leading epidemiologists and scientists in the US, UK, Europe, Canada versus what you are imagining in your head.
You mean like they did with thalidomide?
No 3:42, but like they did with the polio and small pox vaccines.
You mean eradicating polio and not living with it right?
Please trust what you want when you want. It is your right. Why can’t it be mine? I know the answer. Do you?
Time for us all to go get our booster but get a brand new vaccination card at the same time. Pass it on three weeks later to another person who needs their booster and bingo Bango we’re adding to the percentage without having to vaccinate people that won’t do it.
I actually had the same thought today! Because we just show up and fill out a form rather than registering online, they wouldn’t know we have been jabbed already.
(passing the card on wont work as ID is matched to the card).
I didn’t get my ID checked
They are not going to count you twice.
Considering they didn’t check my ID I think it’s possible that we could get done again and they would have no idea.
When they didnt even ask ur id your card may not have full details. How can USA accept ours if we dont accept USA one
If government was serious about opening up they would offer a 2nd pension fund withdrawal from those grossly underperforming overcharging pensions to incentivize the unvaccinated. Money talks AC/DC
Realistically are all the tourists that used to come to cayman going to come back? Most will probably go to st Lucia or Barbados or wherever this year then make that a habit. Just open the border at least for vaccinated caymanians and residents so we can travel this summer. Happy to quarantine for 5 days on return. There really is no risk.
I agree. Step 1 open the border at least for vaccinated Caymanians and residents. So ridiculous there is not a single available inward or outward airline seat all summer.
CIG has locked us in.
North Korea-like. No possible way to get off the island any more.
CIG is terrified of anyone returning to the island and interfering with their lives. Plan on being stuck for a long, long time. Those with no work it might be time to plan on moving. Caymanians can move to the UK.
I think it is safe to say any former short term visitors that used to come here, that have no family or direct ties to the place will now not plan to return, given the difficulties and cost to travel to Cayman under the current or any future directives on the management of the COVID 19 crisis , by the CIG and it’s key players in the matter. Add the unknowns of if their vaccine credentials will be accepted ,having to quarantine and the resulting PCR tests , flights being guaranteed so one is not stuck in a hotel or condo at outrageous cost , in a snap lockdown with no ability to leave a foreign territory , a tiny island no less. Does any of this sound like something a sane person would subject themselves to? But to throw Cayman a bone here, it is not a unique problem just applicable to here. Anywhere you wanted to try and travel to, with the exception of the U.S. would currently impose a similar set of obstacles and hassles, of varying degrees ,merely to do a simple trip away . Most people will just say ‘ No thank you’ and plan to go elsewhere. That elsewhere isn’t even outside the U.S. or Canada . The two countries are so big , you could do a vacation choice somewhere different within their borders and avoid all the pitfalls of international travel. Cayman requires people to do international travel, that ability is now restricted , hamstrung , difficult to pull off. Just like the current re-opening plan that has been thrown at us.
Yes sir you r vaccinated in Cayman and wish to travel and quarantined 5 days on return. But what about when you go overseas. They may quarantine too. No fun of vacation of quarantine.I think we have good rate of vaccination.so The best thing would be to allow vaccinated to travel to specific countries where we have direct flights and allow only vaccinated people from these countries with preboarding negative test .let the tourism product move on. Only vaccinated to work in public places tourism restaurents hotels shops .even in govt and offices some disincentive for unvaccinated rather than incentive for vaccination.
Only 347 first doses given out over the last week (down from the weekly June average of 1,500 per week).
At 347 per week (assuming this doesnt continue to decrease) will take 23 weeks to administer 7,800 first doses to get to 80% of 71,100.
(its 7 weeks to September 9th; to have 80% fully vaccinated by that date means first doses have to be given in the next 4 weeks so that second doses are in arms by that date. 7,800 over 4 weeks means 1,950 first doses per week).
You r correct sir. 80 percent coverage to get herd immunity is a good target. But it should be of eligible population. Even the estimated 71000 may not be exact. In large pop like uk us slight variation in estimate may not affect but do in small pop.
Sounds like 9000 more than we can use.
sounds like Cayman has a bunch of kindergartners running the country
You’re being very kind to the cayman government with that comment, the situation is a joke. I would say we have a government trying to redistribute wealth via COVID. Won’t work. Happy to cook at home until the border opens.
Govt has tried the carrot approach, how about now trying a stick approach? Weekly required testing for those not vaccinated or a fine?? It’s costing the rest of us plenty.
You’ve discovered the CIG strategy; by setting the bar high, they no longer have to use either the stick or the carrot. No, they can now depend upon people like you to do their work for them upon the unvaccinated.
My parents have medical conditions that preclude them taking the vaccination, but uncaring people with their shotgun approach still regularly try to attack and shame them.
It was really quite a brilliant move on the government’s part.
What medical conditions preclude vaccination?
Anti vax anxiety
A brain
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You people suck.
There are several medical conditions in which it is profoundly dangerous to take the vaccination. To list a few:
1. A tendancy toward blood clots
2. Immunocompromised people
3. those with HIV/AIDS
4. Cancer patients
5. People with RA
6. Pregnant women
7. Those who use blood thinners
8. People who are allergic to the compounds in the vaccination
9. People who have a history of having an anaphylactic reaction to a vaccine.
10. Congenital disorders
11. I’m not a doctor, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Autonomic nervous system dysfunction
At least 3 on your list is so wrong as I have them and all my specialists have said I should definitely take the vax as I could suffer dire consequences should I catch Covid, so that begs the question are any of the others correct???? Hmmmm
17 @ 2:02pm – One example. People undergoing chemotherapy and some other immune-suppressant therapies cannot take the vaccine – they have to wait a few months until those chems are out of their system. At least that was the case for me, according to my 3 specialist doctors.
Hope this clarifies for you.
So that’s 10 people max?
Those self diagnosed on webmd.
CDC says the only people who shouldn’t are those with severe allergic reactions to one of the ingredients ( such as polyethylene glycol or polysorbate). They caution that there is insufficient data to know the risks to people with autoimmune diseases, such as AIDS, but at the same time point out that people with such diseases are very vulnerable to Covid, and conclude that auto immune disease should NOT prevent at least taking the first does and determining reaction. That advice seems to morph in the minds onf many with auto immune problems or allergies – even completely irrelevant to the vaccine ingredients- as being advice that they shouldn’t get jabbed.
Hmm I have several autoimmune diseases and have been told by all my specialists to get jabbed and I have.
Also know some people who have medical conditions which mean they can’t take the vaccine. No one should be stigmatized because they can’t or don’t want to. Look into Ivermectin – may be an option for them.
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57570377
There is plenty of evidence emerging that Ivermectin is effective in treating Covid-19.
10.06am I’m fed up hearing about this product – give it to your horse!.
Clearly you are the one who is being ignorant if you will not even entertain the fact that it can help with Covid.
It is already used to treat many conditions in humans, and is safe if taken in the right dose.
Educate yourself.
The people who cant get vaccinated because of medical conditions possibly are immunosuppressed too.hence they r more vulnerable tocatch and become sick. They should be more careful and restrict their movements in public places
Anyone who is immune compromised. When your doctor says don’t take the vaccine, I am guessing he knows better than the bad bullies
Everyone aware of the mass global protests happening against the vaccinations?
I know – I cannot believe the number of gullible idiots there are everywhere
Smooth talker.
This is a blatant false statement and fake news. Where is your evidence?
It’s all over the independent news. France right now is leading the way. UK had a huge demo couple of weeks ago.
If all you watch is CNN and BBC, you are getting the sanitized version.
The truth is that there are loads of protests going on right in Europe.
Just do a little research, all the evidence is there.
Really wondering why you think they are protesting vaccinations because I’m pretty sure the protests are them wanting vaccinations but they can’t get them. So aren’t we lucky to live somewhere that has an over supply. New study is again 99% of the deaths in hospital are from unvaccinated out of the US. But please continue to spew bullshit, we will be here every step of the way to bat it down.
“Every person has the right to choose. We’re choosing that the government does not choose for us,”
As long as your choices don’t limit my rights and choices I’d agree…..but they are.
As long as your choices don’t injure me for life.
This is a pandemic and you are at higher risk if unvaccinated. The Government clearly goes not want to choose for us but will be forced to do exactly that.
In combination with the re-opening plan, Government should act to implement some sensible, clear policies with prior notice:
– Non-essential travel to be entirely at the travellers’ expense, implementation already announced;
– All arrivals not verifiably vaccinated must quarantine for 14 days;
– Work permit holders must be verifiably vaccinated if they wish to remain here or new permit holders to arrive. Give those already here 3 months notice, unless they have a medical condition documented by Doctors from two different medical facilities that establish clear medical reasons not to take the vaccine they must get verifiably vaccinated or leave;
– Students 12 years or older have to be verifiably vaccinated to attend in person classes at public schools and UCCI.
Your choice.
The ignorant are not aware and will never be. Plan accordingly. Many here look to Bush for answers.
Hopefully we start giving it to tourist when they start visiting because the local population here doesn’t seem keen on a life-saving vaccine.
Life saving. COVID has a 0.004% death date
Complete and utter BS. Cite your source. John Hopkins – who I suspect knows a little more about medicine than you do – don’t agree, nor does any other reputable source,. Virtually every national government reporting on cases indicates fatality rates of over 1%, most over 2%. You cant add in people who haven’t yet caught the disease to make the stats look better. may as well say that fatalities from drunk driving are lower by counting all drivers instead of those driving drunk.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
What’s the rate in Cayman, only two and both from overseas?.
Aren’t you so lucky that you’ve not lost anyone close to you. I’ve lost my father and a couple aunts and uncles but thanks for trying to downplay it with stats that are not even correct.
Give 31 doses and get another 9,653 doses. Sounds like a solid decision.
Between this and the unused prior shipment, how many jabs of COVID are on island now?
Glad I’m getting a booster after having my second jab in February. I’d take two if possible. Time to give boosters and open up, lockdown the unvaccinated please. It’s only fair.
Lost trust in Dr Lee and government so no boosters. They can take boosters everyday before they go to “work”. Btw I took both my doses.
Let’s hope they have a long shelf life …… I have a feeling they won’t be getting used any time soon !
The truth is slow revealing itself.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9796589/Israel-saus-Pfizers-COVID-19-vaccine-significantly-effective-against-Indian-Delta.html
You immediately show your intelligence by sourcing news from the daily mail.
Well, is it true or not? Did you cross-reference with other sources?
I can guess the answer.
It is still 65% effective against infection from the Delta variant. But more importantly, it is still over 90% effective against hospitalization. Almost all the hospitalized in the US and UK are unvaccinated or partially vaccinated.
In addition, if infected, vaccinated individuals are less likely to infect others.
I don’t know what’s more worrying. You reading the Mail or believing what the Israeli govt says.
Nice combination of elitism and anti zionism there.
Anti Zionism is just humanity (and has nothing to do with Anti Semitism).
11.24am I’m more worried about you with your Nom de Plume.
What are we going to do with all these soon to be unused doses, sell them or donate them?.
Unfortunately, they can’t be shipped again, per Pfizer’s guidelines.
Open up Mr Panton. Around the world people are begging for vaccines. We have an excess.
Mr Panton, step up to the media and answer a ‘few questions’. I did vote for you, but you have been a sorry disappointment. You promised transparency, but all you do are scripted announcements every month or two, and refuse to take questions (I’m thinking Wendy has a practical question or two).
You should at least be in front of the media every week as a so called “leader”. Step up you coward.
First of all, it is Mr. Premier to you.
Second, learn to have respect for the decisions CIG makes. Like them or not, voted for them or not, these are the decisions being made in the benefit of the majority not the minority. When circumstances change for the better, the decisions made will reflect them.
Conceited Jr. 2021 should have ran in the election if they have so much to say and are willing to graduate from keyboard warrior summer camp.
I’d call him Mr. Cayman Airways cash cow. And I’d call you the same. We will address people as we see fit, thank you very much, nothing premier about the vaccine and lockdown policy here, does Mr. Joke work for you? Your comment is quite frankly disgraceful and insulting as evidenced by the red down marks. I suggest you grow up. Quickly. Thank you.
Kim Jong-un….is that you typing?
That is ridiculous. Panton should be accountable to the people. Sure his government can come up with their own reopening plan but it’s a disgrace that he refuses to answer any questions on it. Even if people aren’t going to like the answers he gives, it’s cowardly not to even be willing to face them. Not exactly strong leadership qualities.
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They’ll go nicely on the landfill
Thank you UK.
For those paying attention, the percentage of our population that is vaccinated is in fact decreasing as large numbers of Brits and North Americans (who are vaccinated) have left on extended holidays.
By extended holiday you of course mean “essential travel”
But of course. One cannot live without two weeks at the cottage, and some Tim Hortens.
Ah Yes, the 7,500 sq’ Cottage on 65 acres.
If it takes30 minutes to get to work, as opposed to an hour, then the population must be under 49,141.
School is out. That is easing traffic flows tremendously.
But they will return so they still count, right? Or maybe not, if not that would make it even more difficult to reach the impossible target. Hmmmm, maybe that is part of PACT’s no plan, plan.
They are not coming back, nor are their jobs however.
Interesting point. The 71100 was based on net arrivals to a certain date. Are they changing the number to account for new arrivals and departures?
We still have lots of new arrivals and the population is continuing to grow. Hundreds of construction workers and accountants continue to move here. Some categories of new arrival are however unvaccinated. Everyone coming in should be offered a first dose on arrival.
My “extended holiday” starts next month. But its a working holiday. I run a global financial services team, but if I cant visit my team leaders and clients periodically we are going to go out of business. I am going to base myself somewhere I can travel from until they open he orders to non quarantine travel – otherwise my business wont survive.
Getting by on Zoom was ok for a while, but my firm cant run the business efficiently by that alone, nor can we compete with competitors who can travel. We are also struggling to recruit staff from overseas – they are initially attracted by the idea of a Covid free island, but when they realize they are stuck here once on island, not so much.
I know its almost sacrilege to suggest it, but from a clients perspective there is nothing magic about Cayman when compared to other offshore financial sectors. A lot of the consulting, accounting and law firms in the FS space can do the jobs equally well from almost anywhere as long as they have a small presence here – but there is a difference between having the bulk of you team in country, and just a notional representation. It was already a very expensive proposition basing people here – now that coupled with limitations on travel make it far harder to justify.
Mr Panton seems to think that the FS is immune to a closed border – he is wrong. Just wait and see how the law firms, who already have Cayman qualified staff onshore, start to ramp those numbers up and their presence here down. What was already a known problem is going to become a tsunami, and once they start staffing up accordingly very difficult to put that genie back in the bottle.
Yes and this combined with people trying to get rid of their holiday homes because it’s too difficult to get here is not going to be good for real estate.
Also people here questioning if they want to live somewhere where they are cut off from their families and unable to visit even if they can and are willing to quarantine.
12:09 – Thank you for pointing this out. I find many people on-island truly believe the financial sector is invincible and will not succumb to the effects of the border closure. I fear our leaders are “all-in” on that belief. The inability to travel freely is an issue. Finding a way to open is paramount for all businesses just as finding a way to live with Covid is important. This virus is not going away anytime soon but it is clear vaccinated people are weathering Covid and all variants better than the unvaccinated. From today’s Wall Street Journal:
“AdventHealth, which manages 41 hospitals across seven Midwestern and Southern states, said about 97% of roughly 12,700 Covid-19 patients treated this year were unvaccinated or partially vaccinated.”
“HCA Healthcare Inc., one of the nation’s largest hospital systems, said its data show fully vaccinated people account for less than 1% of its Covid-19 patients.”