Seven shot as gunman opens fire at WB football game
(CNS): At least seven people were shot on Sunday night when a gunman opened fire at the Ed Bush Stadium in West Bay during a football match, in a shocking escalation of the troubling gun violence. Police said that all of the injured people arrived at the hospital in private cars. All were said to have serious injuries but were in stable conditions late last night. More than a dozen shots rang out at halftime during a premier league game between Elite and Academy Sports Clubs, CNS understands.
The shooting occurred shortly after 9pm on Sunday, 25 February, from the area near the changing rooms into the stands. Few official details have been confirmed at this time, but CNS understands from other sources that adults and children watching the game ran in panic as the gunman shot at the crowd. Some of the injured were shot several times.
Police cordoned off the scene while the firearms response team was dispatched to patrol the area and the police helicopter was deployed. But it appears that, as police waited to make the scene safe for emergency medical personnel, it was the players who helped the victims in the immediate wake of the shooting with on-the-spot medical care until medics were able to get to the many victims.
André Ebanks, who represents the constituency of West Bay South, posted on social media in the wake of the shooting, asking everyone to remain calm, to be in prayer for the Cayman Islands, and to share any information they may have with the RCIPS.
At around midnight, police stated that no arrests had been made and an investigation was now active as they appealed for information from the public.
Police are appealing for anyone who witnessed the incident to come forward and provide information by calling 911 or the West Bay Police Station 949-3999.
Anonymous tips can be provided to the RCIPS Confidential Tip Line at 949-7777, the website, or to caymancrimestoppers.com.
- Fascinated
- Happy
- Sad
- Angry
- Bored
- Afraid
They want this to have sufficient emotional reaction from the community in order to impose draconian kill-your-rights legislation. e.g. more cameras monitoring us, more random checks, etc etc.
Don’t let any incident go to waste…
Anyone following El Salvador? Shows what can be accomplished in crime eradication. Fix it!
You want us to create a police state, then comrade? Yes, what we are doing isn’t working, things only getting worse, but I really don’t think you would like living under the El Salvadoran model.
Disgraceful. Lock people up carrying guns illegally for life with early release possibility removed. Police and govt asleep at the damn wheel.
Fix the damn dump too.
Side note: kids should be in bed at 9pm. Not at a football game when they have school in the morning.
Side note: they weren’t there for the football.
What were they there for?
for those who may not understand how this works, if no one is talking and that shooter isn’t found, retaliation in equal or greater force will occur sooner rather than later.
So what you are saying is that it’s likely a better idea for the intended targets to turn in the perpetrator rather than seeking vengeance and risking life in prison or worse?
Seems rational.
We need the politicians to come together and make laws that let us LOCK UP ALL the gang members and send them away to the UK!!!
The one thing all politicians present at the briefing had in common, was a total lack of Outrage or even a hint of Anger. It was clear that they were all being careful not to upset anyone.
This is not a good time to work on your re-election prospects, this is the time to stand up and be counted as leaders in a fight against these criminals.
Kenny Seymour Mac Saunders all preside over gang infested districts, yet not a peep.
Let’s see which of our elected parasites thumps the table , shouts”enough” then does something about it.
We need new politicians. The ones we have now are WUTLESS.
Not a peep out of the governor. Pathetic.
Rubbish. The Governor spoke eloquently and intelligently at yesterday’s press conference, which obviously you didn’t watch.
All talk and no trousers
It’s cocktail party season bobo. Soon come.
2 nice but massively overpriced hotels, 1 lovely beach now infested with Kenny’s higglers, some great diving but really the only USP we have is safety… you can kiss goodbye to tourism if this sh1t continues! The only way to change this is to get rid of the criminals at the ballot box! You know who they are.
They’re only overpriced if they are empty. They are not empty.
There is a fool born every minute.
Forget Tourism. Covid proved we didn’t need it. Wait until professionals start going home and stop buying condos. Which people are already starting to do. Look at the amount of for sale signs around.
The writing is on the wall, Tourism may keep the status holding Jamaicans in their slums but it’s offshore services that keep Caymanians employed and when professionals start bailing out it’s only down hill from there.
Less Fees = Less CIG money = less Caymanians on that welfare train and so on.
The growing problem of gun crime can’t be helping struggling developments such as Fin Cayman.
So interesting that there’s no naming or shaming by a Certain Media “Reporter”. Crime under PACT and now UDP have gotten out of control. When you have criminals representing us you will have criminals behaving like they are untouchable.
The elephant in the room is that we all know retaliation is inevitable and also cyclical.
It’s also unpredictable. Now that the horse has bolted the barn, retaliation can happen anytime, anywhere.
The shooter had no qualms about firing into a crowd. You can bet the other morally deficient cretins will have none too.
I call on the ministers of West bay, George Town and East End to spearhead a systematic campaign against gun violence by swiftly proposing a draft bill bringing in greater police search powers and harsher sentences for serious offenses using weapons. Case studies of low crime countries such as Singapore should be considered as models.
please spare us with your more laws spiel soon be a law for looking and thinking. draconian Search powers for law abiding citizens human rights for criminals that’s what we now have you donkey!
Dear Cayman,
Thoughts and prayers won’t work. We’ve been trying that for years.
Sincerely,
The United States of America
Maybe now Ken Ken will stop hanging with the Wanksters in GTC and put away the “Bingo card”
Someone knows or someone saw something. There must be security cameras around. This field was not full of tourists. The targets were local people, kids and families. Everyone is worried about the incident will decrease visitors. How about the security of the people of Cayman??
Hopefully, the government will enlist MI5 or the USA’s FBI to find out who the criminals are as soon as possible.
The man on a donkey in charge of Border Control. What a joke- these punks will be long gone.
This country has terrible border control and people are struggling to survive here. Address both if you want to get the gun crime and other violence under control.
We have a Jamaican Minister in charge of border control , and he has put Jamaicans in charge of Immigration.. you really think our UDP government has any interest beyond being re-elected and lining their pockets..?
Time to ask the UK to assist with cleaning up this problem.
US and UK press have the story now….another victory for our uncontrolled scum, and our uncaring politicians.
Kenny and his team will now have to issue releases to sugar coat his and Mac’s supporters violence.
It would be lovely to see the luxury market drop out.
Would love to she the wealthy wives larping as realtors hang up their purses and get back to the school drop off and yoga class.
You know who you are, and we know who
Is hiring you.
Oh for goodness sake. Stop blaming the poor behaviour of Caymanians on white expat real estate agents. How are they causing the shooting and gang behaviour exactly?
Extreme gentrification breeds poverty which breeds crime.
Examples worldwide.
They are part of the problem.
No, it is because some of the underclass cannot control themselves. Those lower IQ points and negative upbringing makes a big difference.
Sorry to disappoint you but it’s only getting started $$$.
Incentives matter, and the armoury is empty: courts only have fines, community orders, and prison. Fines don’t work for people who have no money, community orders are a joke, imprisoning criminals costs taxpayers more than sending a child to than Eton, and rehabilitation is a liberal fantasy. You can’t “rehabilitate” violent criminals, you simply need to (a) make them suffer, so their peers are too terrified to emulate them; and (b) with the minority who persists in committing crime, extinguish them.
Since the 1960s, left-wingers have demanded so-called ‘enlightened criminal justice’. This refrains from effective methods in favour of platitudes and resigned acceptance of the fact that we have chosen to incentivise ever-rising crime. Effectively, criminals have free rein until they rape or murder someone. At no point in the escalatory spiral until there is a rape victim or a dead body do liberal societies deign to act decisively. Even when they do, the only acceptable option is imprisonment with free accomodation, food and healthcare, at immense expense to taxpayers.
Singapore has criminal justice right: corporal punishment (i.e. torture) for minor offences, and capital punishment (i.e. execution) for serious offences.
Prison is both pointless and a waste of money. Criminals are worthless, and should be eliminated. Criminals’ lives don’t matter. Victims’ lives do. Criminal justice policy should be – to paraphrase a famous lefty – “For the many, not the few”. Dead criminals do not reoffend.
The liberal approach to crime is now effectively: “Let’s allow feral vermin to rape and maim innocent people – until they murder someone. Then we’ll squander $$$$ of decent people’s money to imprison these oxygen thieves.”
A more coherent approach would be:
1. First offence. Corporal punishment. As superbly evidenced for decades by Singapore, this is (a) excruciating; (b) humiliating; and (c) an effective deterrent.
2. Second offence. Castration. This (a) prevents propagation of criminality, and spares a future child suffering appalling parenting; (b) decreases testosterone and thus propensity to further offend; (c) is humiliating, and thus a deterrent; and (d) curtails lifespan, which is ideal for societal deadweights.
3. Final offence. Euthanasia. ‘Capital punishment’ is a misnomer: one does not punish garbage by removing it from one’s house, rather once it risks polluting one’s home it has simply ceased to be of value. Mutatis mutandis for serious criminals in society. Membership of society is a privilege, and it can be forfeited. Once identified, persistent criminals should be removed before they rape or murder.
Well, that escalated quickly!
Criminality cannot be wished away. It takes time for societies to fall apart, to crumble. Laws matter; order matters. Believing that you live in a safe place where miscreants don’t run free … that matters, too.
Every society has always had persistent criminals, but only in the West since the 1960s have we been arrogant enough to attempt to ignore reality:
“Men commit evil within the scope available to them. […] most evildoers merely make the most of their opportunities. They do what they can get away with. […] I have met at least 5,000 perpetrators […] violence [and] 5,000 victims of it: nearly 1 percent of the population of my city—or a higher percentage, if one considers the age-specificity of the behavior. And when you take the life histories of these people, as I have, you soon realize that their existence is as saturated with arbitrary violence as that of the inhabitants of many a dictatorship. Instead of one dictator, though, there are thousands, each the absolute ruler of his own little sphere, his power circumscribed by the proximity of another such as he.”
The Frivolity of Evil, Theodore Dalrymple, Autumn 2004, https://www.city-journal.org/html/frivolity-evil-12835.html
“A 1982 study of 240 criminals found that this small group was responsible for a half million crimes over an eleven-year period—an average of 190 crimes a year. Another study of various state prisoners found that 25 percent of them committed 135 crimes a year, while 10 percent committed 600 crimes a year. A California study of convicted males found that just 3.5 percent of those males committed 60 percent of the crimes committed by the whole group. Numerous other studies came to the same conclusion: a tiny cohort of chronic offenders is disproportionately responsible for the vast amount of predatory violence. This is the crime that is predictable and can be most effectively prevented by the intervention of our criminal justice system. The identity of these career offenders was not a mystery. They started committing crimes as juveniles—for which they are never held accountable—and kept on committing crimes as adults. They continued committing crimes whenever they were let out of prison on bail, parole, and probation. As a general rule, the recidivism rate of this hard-core element remained stubbornly high and started dropping appreciably only after they reached forty years old.” William Barr, One Damn Thing After Another: Memoirs of an Attorney General (William Morrow)
Recent analyses confirm that a small number of criminals are responsible for a large fraction of crime. Notably, approximately half of violent crime convictions were committed by people who already had 3 or more violent crime convictions. In other words, if after being convicted of 3 violent crimes people were prevented from further offending, half of violent crime convictions would have been avoided : https://inquisitivebird.substack.com/p/when-few-do-great-harm / https://archive.is/JPSs5
The UK provides an interesting historical insight. From 1500-1750, execution was used to remove violent men from the gene pool, with predictable results (prior to that, the church had objected):
“At the beginning of [1500]… the English homicide rate was about 20 to 40 per year per 100,000 people. At the end [1750], it was about 2 to 4 per 100,000, i.e., a 10-fold reduction (Eisner, 2001). …This leftward is partly explained by the high execution rate between 1500 and 1750, during which 0.5-1% of all men were removed from each generation through court-ordered executions and a comparable proportion through extrajudicial executions, i.e., offenders killed at the crime scenes or in prison while awaiting trial. The total execution rate was thus somewhere between 1-2%. These men were permanently removed from the population, as was the heritable component of their propensity for homicide.”
Frost, P.; Harpending, H. C. (2015). Western Europe, State Formation, and Genetic Pacification. Evolutionary Psychology, 13(1), 13/1/147470491501300114–. doi:10.1177/147470491501300114, https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/147470491501300114
CNS: Murder Rate of Death Penalty States Compared to Non-Death Penalty States
“When comparisons are made between states with the death penalty and states without, the majority of death penalty states show murder rates higher than non-death penalty states.”
Castration doesn’t shorten lives. It actually decreases the incidence of several types of cancer. However, it does markedly decrease violent behavior. These are brilliant ideas. Anyone visiting Singapore recognizes the order and safety that exists there.
Planes fly there everyday, bobo
Yay 6.36…with you all the way.
Thank you for saying what everyone is thinking .
Castration would also reduce the number of baby daddies reproducing their own kind.
Fascism is not the path forward.
So what is, oh wise one?
Fascist word salad.
Some examples of repeat offenders in other jurisdictions. Read these, and tell me that the West hasn’t been on the wrong track since the 1960s:
“Teenager stabbed polite stranger through heart with screwdriver. A lawyer was fatally stabbed in the heart with a screwdriver by a teenager …the boy had 17 convictions for 31 offences since 2017, including an incident in which he grabbed a knife in an argument and one in which he threatened a driver with a blade after he was challenged about drinking alcohol on a bus. In August 2017 he was convicted of battery, criminal damage and threatening with a blade. At the time of the murder he was on bail for affray.”
The Times, 16 September 2019, http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teenager-stabbed-stranger-in-heart-with-screwdriver-hrgstl7r7
“Judge blames parents of machete thug who hacked off teenager’s hand …[the defendant] has 13 convictions for 27 previous offences including three for knife possession” The Times, 5 September 2019, http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/judge-blames-parents-of-machete-thug-who-hacked-off-teenagers-hand-srwpcsqx9
“Five teenagers/young men stabbed to death a 26 year-old…” BBC News, 23 May 2022, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60680826
“I met the mother of Jermaine Cools, a 14-year-old music-loving teenager who was stabbed to death by a youth with a machete in Croydon, south London, in November 2021. (His killer, Marques Walker, now 18, pleaded guilty to murder and was jailed for life with a minimum term of 19 years.) Lorraine Dudek described her son as the “closest person to me” and said Jermaine had plans to open a car customisation garage with his brother. He was a normal teenager with no history of trouble. […] Walker had been caught with zombie knives and large blades on three previous occasions and was on court bail for an alleged knife offence when he murdered Jermaine.” The Times, 29 December 2023, https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/police-stop-and-search-racism-6xl9grbsn
“Criminal saved from deportation murdered man in drugs row. A convicted criminal who avoided deportation to Jamaica after legal challenges backed by MPs and celebrities went on to commit murder. Ernesto Elliott, 45, who was due to board a Home Office charter flight in December 2020, murdered a man in Greenwich, southeast London, six months later. Elliott, who lived in Walthamstow, east London, and his son Nico Elliott, 23, were convicted of robbing and murdering a 35-year-old man on June 2, 2021.” The Times, 27 February 2023, https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/criminal-who-avoided-deportation-murdered-man-in-drugs-row-zpzmmg6g8
“I loved being a dad. I loved spending time with little kids. Two-year-olds in general do not appeal to me, but my two-year-olds did. When they turned three, I was like, “Oh, thank God.” I love when they kept getting older […] We were going to Joshua Tree, and we had just made an offer on a house there as a getaway vacation home, because all four of us loved going to Joshua Tree. So when we found this house, it was like a dream come true for us as a family. We were headed back there at night, because the following morning I had meetings with somebody who would see they could put a pool in for us. Ruby had already chosen the spot for the pool, and it was a joyous ride. It was sort of like a high point for us as a family. Once we crested the hill up to the high desert, it was only about another 20 minutes to the house, when a drunk and high driver, a repeat DUI offender going 40 miles above the speed limit, T-boned us. The point of impact was the rear passenger door, Ruby’s door. Ruby and Hart were killed basically on contact. The paramedics came and they tried valiantly to save them, but they never really breathed after the crash. So to my mind, they died on impact. Hart was 14 and Ruby was 17.” How to Live After Profound Loss, Bari Weiss interviewing Colin Campbell, 12 August 2023, https://www.thefp.com/p/how-to-live-after-loss
“A sexual predator has pleaded guilty to murdering law graduate Zara Aleena just days after being released from prison. …Ms Aleena, who was brutally kicked and stamped on, then left for dead. …the 35-year-old woman “stood no chance” as the killer dragged her into a driveway before kicking and stamping on her. McSweeney sexually assaulted the law graduate and made off with her mobile phone, keys and handbag, …Ms Aleena was found with severe head injuries, partially naked and struggling to breathe …she later died from her injuries. A post-mortem examination found she had suffered multiple serious injuries. Ms Aleena was only minutes from home when she was murdered, in what police described as an “opportunist stranger attack”. CCTV from the night of the killing showed McSweeney following several women before fixating on Ms Aleena. McSweeney had been released from prison on licence just nine days before the murder. …he was a prolific offender who had previously been jailed for criminal damage, racially aggravated harassment and unauthorised possession of a knife in prison. He had 28 convictions for 69 separate offences including burglary, theft of a vehicle, criminal damage, assaulting police officers and assaulting members of the public while on bail. …senior Crown prosecutor Olcay Sapanoglu said it was “clear that McSweeney was intent that night on finding a woman to attack. He sexually assaulted her, then brutally stamped on her several times before appearing to walk away,” the prosecutor said. “Moments later he returned, only to stamp on her several times more and then, finally, leaving her for dead. …having completed his initial assault, he returned to inflict further injuries, leading to her death. At no stage during his police interviews did he express any sorrow for his actions.”
– Sky News UK, 18 November 2022, https://news.sky.com/story/zara-aleena-jordan-mcsweeney-pleads-guilty-to-murdering-law-graduate-as-she-walked-home-12728991
You sound like a criminal. Seek professional help. Your thoughts are not healthy.
Probably a big fan of Pol Pot and Pinochet
This is better in the original German.
Yeah you’re not exhibiting bias at all /sarcasm. Somebody give this man a hug please.
We gone international and all that is said is prayers with families and victims,
I honestly dont think the police have any plan whatsoever
If the Police did or do have a plan, you don’t really think they’re going to broadcast it…do you..?
The response that was addressed by the Commissioner of police in relation to the incident that happened at Ed bushfield, in my view was the incorrect by nature. The incident requires a much stronger response other than the usual high visibility (Passive) patrol an extra manpower that is commonly used to combat situation like this.
First, I believe he should have been able to seek special powers from the governor, to put some of the known hot spots with the cayman islands community under curfew. Let me just say this, this not a fly-by-night response to the incident, however, general fabric of our society was infringed last night when this individual or individuals who has no regards for public, decided he/she was going to attacked, and if he/she did not get their man, they their man (in general terms both man and women) he/she does not care who gets hurt in the process.
It for this reason, why the passive response in my view is the incorrect response to this incident. Just to make absolutely clear, it is not a panic response, however, citizen must be assured, that when ever they go out in the general public to enjoy a public event, they should be assured of some relativity measure of safety.
By having special measurers powers confer on the commissioner, it means that he can set curfew times, and having boots, on the ground to comb through the community in order to discourage this behaviour for ever happening again.
A more target pro-active approached is what is need here. This shooting can’t be seen as isolated incident, or treated that way, even though it is a first! of this kind in nature.
They know there are gangs they know how many people are in these gangs, they should have “brushed with a comb” every residence every area where the gangsters live and move. Emergency powers should have been activated right after the shooting and the entire police force called for a duty until the perpetrator and other gangsters are found and disarmed. This is not Detroit.
my thoughts and prayers with the victims and families.
we are fast becoming like other countries nearby and it won’t take much to chase Away our visitors on whom we rely on so much for keeping our economy going.
think back many years ago when JA had a similar problem(but with lives lost and they were visitors)You all may remember how long it to them to rebound from that with Air Jamaica bringing bk folks free of cost and maybe hotels as well(not sure on that part)but this very serious folks and we MUST nip this in the BUD NOW.
Let’s focus on safety for our residents firstly. Tourism can be addressed later.
It’s not in the bud though is it.
Buds are part of the issue here.
More like ‘Bro’s’ than buds!
300 police in cayman???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Actually more
The current RCIPS site says:
the RCIPS now has 395 police officers and 63 civilian staff [ As of April 2018]
Appears the site wasn’t updated since 2018
https://www.rcips.ky/about
Cayman has over 400 full time RCIPS officers, plus special constables, a regiment, and a coast guard. Exactly what they aim to accomplish on those regular and overtime shifts is really a mystery.
Fox, MSN, and other US outlets all feature this shooting –
Kenneth now having to spin a story to promote the Cayman which he also once sought to destroy with his previous occupation.
His fat pay packet now makes him untouchable.
I saw this coming many years ago while I was living in Cayman Island, because we have the rich and the poor. The so call rich was too busy doing them while the poorer people was working to keep food on their tables. Crimes are going to take over Cayman island and it’s going to be sad to see my islands go to the criminals. If the people who are to governor us is busy filling their pockets when the islands are going to criminals
Front page news of the English Guardian news paper as well…
There goes the Realator’s propaganda of the Cayman Islands being:
“..safe, secure, the Switzerland of the Caribbean…”
We need to recognise the problem in order to beat it…
Its starts at the top – like the saying says – “A fish rots from its head…”
26 @ 5:26pm – Yes, and they’re waiting to report when a tourist gets robbed, raped or killed or when some bullied child takes daddy’s gun to school and pow, pow, pow!! God forbid!
It’s coming soon in McKeeva’s Cayman!!! 2003 status give-away is coming home to roost!!
What is the state of health of the victims? Wishing them a speedy recovery.
The gangsters have put Cayman on the front page of the UK’s Guardian newspapers
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/26/grand-cayman-islands-shooting-football-match-soccer
so-called wantabe gangster are being backed by our own government they can drive on the road in their cars with dark tented windows. and the so-called gangster is on some heavy drugs stop the vehicle and see what they have to Hide (California no doubt about it)
Maybe we should add more gun laws. For example, make the pellet guns and slingshots laws even more serious.
What slingshot law?
What *are* we allowed to use to get rid of feral chickens, incidentally?
All due respect, those hunting invasive iguanas and feral chickens aren’t EVER the problem. EVER.
They are when they trespass and shooting into people’s yard. Kids play out there and we heard at least two pellets whizz past while I was hanging out washing.
…this, and more, on today’s episode of “Things That Didn’t Happen!”
The UK is responsible for our security, it’s time they step up and police these ghettos and ship those involved to visit their friends in the UK prison.
They can’t secure themselves.
Except we have a weak Governor who looks like a deer caught in headlights.
Get a backbone woman and use your authority to impose law and order.
Where’s your responsibility?
Can CNS ask Kenny if he feels the drug laws are too lax in the Cayman Islands and more should be done to clean up our streets and if he feels he’s setting the wrong example for Cayman’s future?
We’re losing our Caymankind Community to this nonsense.
Caymankind was when Caymanians were a moajority on this islands. Enough said.
Caymankind is about how Caymanians are as a kind, not to be confused with kindness as everyone else knows it.
Caymankind was a 2011 advertising slogan. About as authentic as pirates week.
wasn’t CaymanKind about encouraging immigration….
A scarcity of heroes. How sad. Did nobody even run after the culprit? Did nobody
put themselves in harm’s way?
You have information about the shooter’s proximity to the targets? Any idea how many shooters? You understand that guns are ranged weapons right? You can have as high a dex stat as you want when you’re LARPing, but this incident took place in real life, where bullets are surprisingly hard to dodge. Get a grip.
Charles was not there, Bobo.
This problem didn’t come about over night. Or over the last year or two. It’s been festering for 20+ years.
Now let’s look at who have been in the halls of government all this time. What say you JuJu? McKeeva (or right you’re busy in court defending your disgusting action!).
And who could forget the comments of a certain past Minister of Education when he proclaimed. “There are no gangs in our schools”. Truman?
In democracy you get the government you deserve.
Cayman is the size of a Texas ranch. 300 cops of all sorts. Still no arrests.
Over 400. Two helicopters and a specialist firearms squad. And they even know who the gang members are. SMH.
Why not a manhunt immediately after the shooting? Get the chopper up, canvas the area, stop cars coming from West Bay, patrol the coast with Coast Guard.
At daylight, increase the manhunt. Knock on doors, foot patrols. Be relentless in pursuit, no reward needed.
Because they are “allegedly” (🙄) involved in the crime. What other reason could there possibly be at this point?
Be relentless in pursuit – they dint even know who the shooter was.
What do you expect when we live in a kleptocracy? Don’t expect politicians to give a damn, outside of giving a half-baked apology with zero action.