Virus outbreak linked to first North Side case
(CNS): The genomic sequencing of selected samples from community COVID-19 test results conducted since the re-emergence of SARS-CoV-2 last month have been confirmed as the Delta variant and they all appear to be closely related to the first community case reported in early September, according to Public Health. A woman in her 70s, who remains in hospital, and her son, both from North Side, were the first two people to test positive for COVID in the current outbreak.
A few days later the next case emerged at George Town Primary school. While there is no way to know for sure how the virus returned to Cayman after more than a year, in just over seven weeks we have gone from zero local transmission to 646 active cases, as of Thursday morning.
On the day that the virus re-emerged on 8 September there had been a total of 719 cases of COVID-19 recorded in Cayman since March 2020, largely from incoming travellers. Since then, however, we have seen an additional 935 cases in less than eight weeks. To date there have been 1,650 cases in the Cayman Islands, and this week alone there have been 447 cases reported in the community and just eight in travellers.
The Public Health Department reported Friday on the results of 1,845 PCR tests conducted up until 8am Thursday. Of those there were 153 community transmissions and one case in a traveller. There were no figures for the number of people in quarantine but it is believed to be well in excess of 2,000.
Officials were also unable to say how many people have symptoms and how many people are vaccinated. Government has not supplied any data yet to show the rate of breakthrough infections since the coronavirus re-emerged.
However, there are still just four people in hospital, including the first patient from September and another patient who is positive for COVID but was admitted for other reasons. Just two elderly people are currently admitted purely for COVID symptoms and they were previously said to be needing additional oxygen.
The rapid spread of the virus, despite the high vaccination rate, the deployment of various safety protocols, social distancing rules, mask mandates and a river of sanitizer, has taken a toll on public health.
The much anticipated policy to manage lateral flow testing was released by government on Friday evening (story to be posted shortly). Officials have said this allows for a different approach and reduces the impact of isolation of close contacts. In many circumstances, close contacts can be permitted to continue to operate in the community subject to undertaking daily lateral flow testing.
Meanwhile, as of Friday, 56,488 people, or 79% of the estimated population of 71,106, have had at least one shot of a COVID-19 vaccine and 76% had completed the two-dose course. A total of 3,552 people have had a third, or booster, dose.
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There is only so much a government can do. People need to take responsibility. There has been 18 months of this pandemic now and likely covid will be around for at least the next 5 years, so the only option is to open up on November 20 and follow the known science. Everyone by now should be doing:
1. Vaccinated by now and get booster in next few months – we know Pfizer works against delta and reduces chances of transmission, catching it or getting seriously ill
2. Avoid crowded places as much as possible
3. Social distance as much as possible in supermarkets etc
4. West a mask when in close contact places
5. Regularly sanitize and wash your hands
Then we will be fine.
Not everyone will be fine, despite doing the right thing and taking all possible precautions. We already have people in hospital, so I don’t suppose this is a positive experience for them.
Exactly. This “get on with it” trope doesn’t recognize the inherent health differences in humans. It only recognizes the motivation for profits and a return to their idea of normal, no matter the human cost.
So what is the solution..shut us down for another 18 months to wait on another surge to happen after that?
The problem here is that people would not heed advice. Everyone kept saying prepare for it to come but everyone believe that it would never get here but guess what folks, Delta is here with a vengeance. Those of you that listened and got vaccinated, hopefully you will get through this with mild or no symptoms. Those that are unvaccinated we pray the same for you too.
People please, please, start taking responsibility for yourselves. Wash your hand at every opportunity you get, stay away from crowds and social distance, just because the bar open doesn’t mean you have to go, wear your masks, don’t wait to ask someone if you can go into a store with your mask …wear it everywhere! Get outside whenever you can and get some fresh air and exercise just don’t do it in a group. Please go get vaccinated. It is for your own good and those around you..Lastly, everyone needs to find a way to be kind to one another. Don’t watch your neighbor starve in quarantine, when you could instead of getting on social media to bash the government for not bringing them anything you could be part of the solution and have some food taken or delivered to them.
Let get through this together..it’s not a time for blaming each other.
But there is no rationale solution for that unfortunately.
Good Lord!
This is a recipe for segregation and distrust! Come on man!
Listen, we have to learn to LIVE with this. Stop blaming people… No one cares who’s patient zero for the annual flu (where’d that disappear to?) And covid has a incredibly successful recovery rate.
Who doesn’t want to be vaccinated, that’s their business. They’ll get it just as vaccinated will.
Natural immunity is always going to be the best prevention.
How in the hell can we Avoid crowded places as much as possible and
Social distance as much as possible when we are on a small island and CIG is going to open up to the world that has covic 19
Resistance to changes only keep us in the past. It’s time, Cayman, to let go of the past. We understand the past to do better, not to carry on the mistakes of our forefathers.
This makes perfect sense, the time is now to change and we need to start with ourselves.
We all have direct access, we do not need a group.
Such gibberish, such nonsense, but if you understand, well.
Thank you, Plato. But I have no idea what you are specifically talking about.
Only a few souls here will get it. Only a few are meant to get it. The rest are on their own as it should be. Patience.
It seems you understand, thank you.
I am done posting.
In the past Caymanians never had any problem taking vaccines when I was young.
Can’t believe the 20% who are still unvaccinated can be so stupid at this point.
@9:32 It’s called radicalization and social media doctors. Unfortuntely, one of the bad side effects of being so close to our neighbor from the north.
This isn’t the Cayman I grew up in. Back then, we would have joined together for the better good of the country and our families. The fact that only 20% are against the vaccine says that we are in still in a good place with this Epidemic. Our hospitals are not overrun and we don’t have hundreds dying.
Instead of siting around bitching and complaining we should be grateful that we had 18 months pretty much free of covid, plus many of us were able to get fully vaccinated and our most vulnerable have gotten their booster shot for the most part..
Nobody, particularly the anti-vaxxers thought these days would come but luckily for us they came when we had a fighting chance.
Blame the politicians and the media.
The vaxxers don’t seem to recognize the inherent differences in humans either
I remember being terrified as a child that i was going to get immunised. I was not a willing participant to the vaccination program.
I now wish my father had kept me home and taught me himself.
1). Does HSA routinely and regularly publish the data regarding the percentage of these cases that are “breakthrough” i.e. What percentage of the cases of infection are being found in fully vaccinated people? If not, why not?
2). Is HSA collecting and analysing the data on infection and contact-traced positives, from vaccinated vs non-vaccinated persons, to determine what impact the vaccines are having on R0 (the basic reproduction number of infection) in the Cayman Islands? And is HSA routinely and regularly publishing the data regarding R0, and impact of vaccinations on R0 in the Cayman Islands? If not, why not?
Having this sort of basic evidence is the foundation of science-based policy-making.
Publishing and making this sort of basic evidence easily accessible is the foundation of earning public trust in the Government’s policies, and convincing the public to support and follow Government’s policies.
This goes to the core of really being “People driven, Accountable, Competent and Transparent (PACT)”.
All that crap is old fashion from 2019 and before…get with the times.
The answer to your first question is easily found. The figures for vaccinated vs. unvaccinated positive cases is published daily on the gov.ky site. Some of the data is pending currently due to the large numbers of cases found over the past few days. The second question would be best asked of the HSA, perhaps, rather than in this forum. However, the fact that they are going to the bother of looking up the data and publishing it daily suggests they likely are tracing cases this way.
“Government has not supplied any data yet to show the rate of breakthrough infections since the coronavirus re-emerged.” These figures should be provided with every report It feels to me that government is now hesitant to let the people know the facts. This has to stop. trust the people you trusted to vote for you to accept the facts.
https://www.exploregov.ky/coronavirus-statistics
What if, the virus is here to help us transition to a higher version of ourselves, and to become critical thinkers. There will be no fear. 🙈🙉🙊
The world leaders didn’t get the memo, otherwise they wouldn’t have flown to the climate change summit. 😂
If it is being portrayed as the grim reaper, it will cause panic and fear.
But as a vehicle to change, is a stretch of the imagination even though not impossible.
Right – anything that kills 5 million people is good – Got it.
Transitioning to that higher version of ourselves is the inevitable change that is required.
Where we see start seeing things differently and where we understand that all beings have a right to life and most importantly we understand what to eat, we eat our food as our medicine.
Evolution never stops, we are currently evolving into humans with understanding which must be granted.
We fix ourselves, we fix the world.
wait… fix ourselves? Looking within? … Cleaning our own rooms before we try to clean the world……. This sounds like that, what do they call it nowadays.. the Right wing, Trumpian, white supremacists, racists, bigoted republican talking points. Oh yeah, and Fox News.
Its sarcasm, in case no-one gets its.
Why is it that certain anti-vaxxers are now saying they are only getting the vaccine because they want to travel? What happened to, my body, my choice and “I don’t know what’s in it, so I am not taking it? Why all of a sudden, I see you wearing masks?
No need to mock morons
Fear is a great motivator.
Fear is the greatest motivator as we saw in Floriduh a few months ago. As the hospitals filled up and deaths went up vaccination rates went up very fast.
They would probably say, “Mind your own business.
You would have to have a screw loose and be in the bottom 1% of the intelligence spectrum of you haven’t been double vaccinated months ago in cayman. We’ve had easily accessible free jabs since February here, and anyone with half a brain cell and google knows the Pfizer jab reduce massively your chances of dying (including from the delta variant). How could any responsible adult not be vaccinated by now, given it also reduces your chances of catching and transmitting the virus to the vulnerable people (the very old and the critically ill) who could die even if vaccinated. Some people are beyond repair. Astonishes me some idiots are still not vaccinated, are congregating in large places at bars etc. unmasked and not prescribing basic hand hygiene. That is why we have such high cases, along with the fact some idiots thought they could be the only country in the entire planet that would somehow miraculously escape covid. And still they blame their government for their stupidity.
I am surprised how many of the anti-vaxxers are so critical about the Governments decision to open the borders. I guess they are at least slightly worried now that their conspiracy theories might be wrong.
On social media, I keep seeing messages by, not only the main anti-vaxxers, but many of their followers asking why the government is producing the covid infection numbers daily and claiming that the government is covering up the actual numbers and some even saying that the numbers aren’t real and it’s fer-mongering, yet they still want and demnd them. Aren’t these the same people that said covid was a fake virus and nothing more than a flu? Why do they so desperately need this information now? If anything, it should be the vaccinated demanding these numbers, if anything. I think they are a bit scared.
The numbers are growing and will continue to grow. We have been living in a bubble. The bubble has now been broken and now we are going through what other countries went through and are still going through 18 months on. The good news is that nearly 80% of our population has been vaccinated so those that do get sick are able to handle it and recover at home. 4 people in the hospital and no more deaths than the original 2 says a lot for what we have been able to accomplish by getting vaccinated.
For everyone that has been sitting on the fence about getting the vaccine there is no time better then now to get vaccinated. The vaccine has proven it’s worth all over the world and right here in Cayman. It has been effective and there are a lot of people with break through cases that will attest to that..
I don’t think you know jack. I think you just like to judge people and flap your gums about it.
It isn’t just ‘anti-vaxxers’. The vaccinated are not invincible, I am vaccinated but follow the advice to live like you are not, and continue to practice covid protocols. This wave should be allowed to stabilize before letting thousands in. We have to protect them too.
If you are fully vaccinated you will not be seriously sick or hospitalized, however, if you are obese, have diabetes, asthma or another underlying condition you are susceptible to COVID. So relax but use common sense and follow protocols.
Good to hear panton today say we definitely won’t be having any lockdowns and the November 20 opening is irreversible. Correct decision. We’re 18 months into a pandemic and should be able to handle it now without ridiculous closures. It’s on the public, not the government – presumably now every adult is vaccinated and is social distancing and avoiding crowded places.
I would much rather if Panton said he will make the appropriate decisions to protect the population.
Covid is everywhere. Restaurants, grocery stores, workplaces, gyms, salons, schools and pretty much all inside buildings and we are 19 days away from what could go down in history as one of the worst decisions ever, all in the name of greed, selfishness, and the thirst for power.
Not sure why the boosters are still on over 50s? Say there are bout 60,000 people on island to give the third booster too, surely we can get that done in a few weeks maximum? It’s been on over 50s for weeks… how long does it take to jab the over 50s? A few days I would expect.
Cabal – C-A-B-A-L
From a patriot posting in another context –
“I just received this in a email from the Chamber of Commerce in regard to their Ready2Open campaign:
“As we continue to shift from “suppression mode” to coexisting with COVID-19, we’re reminding you to make the pledge that you’re Ready2Reopen.”
Vaxing, vax mandates, masking, social distancing, sanitising, limiting large groups, quarantines, etc, are all means of suppression of Covid.
Any group who suggests shifting a focus from suppression of
Covid to just relaxing and casually living with (and dying of) Covid are a den of fools.
The Chamber has manifest themselves as having a focus on just one thing and it ain’t the health and well-being of the local population. The Ready2Open campaign offers abundant bits of evidence that “business first” is their driving philosophy.”
PACT – protecting profits over people as instructed.
Damn you’re scared. Don’t worry. You can still stay inside and the rest of us will keep the lights on for you.
Some members of society are right to be scared. We have a lot of vulnerable people who could get very sick or die. It’s not ok to mock their fear or to think, ‘hey they were old or sick, they were going to die one day anyway’.
One day you yourself will become elderly, or face a life changing illness, and then perhaps you will understand that everyones life is precious, and everyone wants their life to continue.
I am going to mock anyone who is not vaccinated at this point. I have had it with people who are chronically stupid on this island.
If you are so fed up with “the chronically stupid on this island”, here is your invitation to leave! Uncaring, hateful pieces of humanity like you we won’t miss!!
The gov should worry about having meds and vaccines available and then get out of the way. Stop running everyone’s lives. Let those who want to be treated like children surrender their freedoms to the government and leave the rest of us alone. We’re sick and damn tired of it.
Folks, the virus is here to stay. The rate of spread will likely get worse. But, as we are a small population with a high vaccination rate, enough infections will speed up herd immunity.
No need for panic, and definitely no need to treat this like an Ebola outbreak, as rightly commented below by someone else.
Cue, it’s just the flu division of the Cabal
Please explain why Bermuda has 101 dead, and counting? Your nonchalance may risk lives.
Every one of those dead people was going to die anyway. They just got to the Kingdom of Heaven sooner than planned.
Please explain why Turks and Caicos has a total of 23 fatalities. Only six since the vaccinations started and everyone of the fatalities un-vaccinated.
Just give the comparison to Bermuda a rest already. If we are are really comparable to Bermuda then we would have had roughly 24 deaths by now.
We don’t have Bermuda deaths because of the vaccines you fool
Here to stay? You would do well to read historical facts on pandemics instead of spewing conjecture.
He probably meant, here to stay, for now. Jeeezums, such a literal drama queen!
Oh sure, blame Northside!!?!
If the shoe fits …
Listened to Wayne’s speech. Sorry he sounds like a complete moron. Where I understand we have to open where is this country really taking the necessary precautions. If our cases have increased like they are how is he going to keep the tourists safe. You think cases are high now just wait…you really think tourists are going to come here take a chance of getting covid and get stuck here on their expense. I dont think so Bobo
Tourists won’t care about positive cases here. They have been living a normal life in places with Covid not cowering in fear. People have been traveling for over a year while we’ve been locked down with no commercial flights.
Yes. It’s easier to blame the poor than make the wealthy accept any responsibility
The poor have no excuse for not getting vaccinated as the vaccines are free.
Get smart North Side people and get vaccinated.
Yes, and they dared to use data and evidence to back it up too. Rascals.
Yep, with the pandemic of the unvaccinated, the North Side is a leader in terms of unvaccinated people.
Get vaccinated people.
Who will you blame when the vaccinated percentage is 90%? The children? Yes. hmmmm. They are a vulnerable target. You’d better start twirling your moustache now and practicing your diabolical laughter.
Hey watcher, there will still be people with underlying conditions and vaccinated who will get COVID. The situation in Florida clearly showed that fact.
We can take it.
Why even quarantine travelers at all, they are not the problem now. Give them a test every few days and let them be free
Wish people would stop peddling these lies that the outbreak has anything to do with tourists or the change to 5 day quarantine. It is because of local people, probably unvaccinated, not following the rules and being utterly irresponsible.
“Local people” meaning poor black people, right. Just come out with it. We all know your intent here.
Yeah, but local people can be smart and get vaccinated be they black, white, yellow, or pink.
@7:06pm – well….if the shoe fits….
But you have just assumed ‘probably unvaccinated’. So the people that assumed it was the 5 day quarantine should stop because your assumption is superior?
Well that’s just shows how stupid you are
Vaccination does absolutely nothing to control the spread.
5 day quarantine was reckless and totally unjustifiable by Govt.
You need to change where you get your information because you are so wrong. Try Google and search for the information instead of spouting fake news.
“My source is correct because I believe it, which means your source is completely false because even if you google and get data from the internet, its not the same as mine therefore its wrong. I’m correct because I’m clearly better at googling.”
Yes, and I am sure you can find a source that says the Earth is flat, chem trails are a real thing, the virus has microchips or some other nonsense. Stop watching Tucker Carlson and Fox News!
It speaks volumes to the present construct of Caymanian Society, that a bigoted, erroneous statement, blaming “locals” and unvaccinated people for anything to do with Covid-19 would receive over 100 likes. You must’ve forgotten the virus doesn’t discriminate, vaccinated or not.
But locals do have a much lower rate of vaccinations. Why are not the Cayman Islands Civil Service and all health officials required to be vaccinated by mandate?
But CIG requires all WP holders to be vaccinated?
You talk about discrimination so 9:11, why the discrimination on these 3 islands on which people are required to be vaccinated?
Or spike proteins being developed in the bodies of the vaccinated.
The thing that impresses me the most about the PACT administration is that they are not allowing their chances of getting reelected to influence their decision making. Is is really a different government when politicians are willing to make decisions that will almost certainly ensure that they will not get reelected.
Or not make decisions or have an actual plan…
They made a decision about something?
Stop blaming the government, rightly so we will not be going into lockdown ever and we are opening on November 20. The community spread levels are because some,people are not wearing masks, being hydronic and social distancing, and still gathering in crowded places. It’s on the Lublin, not the governemnt, to manage the situation. The government can’t do any more,,, we have high vaccine rates and we are now over 18 months into the pandemic. People have had long enough to understand the virus and know how to act responsibly
Yes let us bring the tourist to a high risk area that is under advisement to avoid, and give them something to take home and spread again. Once we got their dollars who cares?
Amen 7:42am. I can’t believe people are still asking whether they should wear a mask, or if they should be social distancing ..It is crazy that after all this time we need the government to tell us to wash our hands, wear masks, social distance and stay home and away from other others if we contract covid. It’s like common sense has been lost.
My 8 year old doesn’t need me to tell her this, yet big grown ass adults are acting like this is something that just happened today.
At this point I can’t believe you don’t know masks do nothing but promote fear. There are plenty of locations you can study where masks have not been required for so long now, if ever and they are doing just fine in comparison to those religiously putting a piece of cloth over their faces (that they also re-use, just think about that for a moment).
Is it REALLY on the Lublin? Damn!! I didn’t know that!
What is a Lublin?
The Lublin is bubblin with trouble.
I’m guessing that:
hydronic = hygienic
Lublin = Public
Or maybe I just need some Covfefe
Hospitalized or fatal COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC as of October 18, 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
Ask the East End hotel how many of their Caymanian ‘Covid’ guests breached their quarantine. I know the police arrested at least one who was wandering around during darkness.
Perhaps an FOI to the police or HSA should clarify who wasn’t playing by the rules, and I bet it wasn’t foreigners.
It’s obvious that local transmission has been caused by local infection, so stop blaming everyone else and own it.
4.35am Also ask how many Jamaicans breaching quarantine because most don’t know the difference between us. In fact why are flights still coming from there with passengers. Only outgoing flights should be full.
Let’s be honest. The world has literally changed beyond recognition since this global event.
The question is, where is it all going?
I was doing some research into post-war Britain and came across the following quote by The Earl of Gosford, Joint Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, who said in the House of Lords on 7th November, 1957:
“Her Majesty’s Government are fully in agreement with World Government. We agree that this must be the goal, and that every step that is humanly possible must be taken to reach that goal.”
I think we are closer to that goal than ever before. The question is, will these be elected or appointed?
I think we know the answer.
So if this philosophy has not changed and I have no reason to believe it has, we should see even more stringent controls placed on the general population. We are not going back to the old normal, that is for sure.
Yeah, but how dd that go for the Earl?
Brits goal was to colonize the world, you’re off to a good start
Some how with wrong advice or imagination of authories made public to believe vaccination and quarantine of arrivals will protect from getting covid virus to cayman. This was not true. Vaccine doesnt prevent transmission.
Yes quarantine and isolation prevent transmission. That is used in the beginning days in every country. Once large scale community transmission occurs no use of quarantine. But isolation of cases helps in suppression. So for us testing symptomatics and close contacts of positives voluntarily and isolation of positives and appropriate trt.
All these scenarios should be explained to public of reasons of each action. Then public gets prepared and no panic. But planning is happening ascwe go. Public health shld boldly guide the public explaining all eventualities.public trust of agencies and of Govt is essential.
Actually, vaccination does prevent transmission (although only half the time). If it can take an R0 of 8 and make it an effective R0 of 4, it is incredibly helpful.
I am not saying vaccination not helpful. But as u said 50 percent on transmission because of reduced viral load. Just because of that reduction of quarantine period doesnt make sense
No- It can’t and it doesn’t.
Fake news – it does reduce transmission by reducing the R factor.
Reduce does not = prevent. And the reduction seems to change daily. Some say it’s now zero. In any case, do can you cite any sources with a shred of credibility that are saying we can eradicate C19? They used to say that. So what’s the logical conclusion when you realize you cannot prevent the spread?
Ok, let’s argue semantics. I say if it reduces spread, in has actually prevented spread in those who didn’t get it because of reduced spread. I’m not arguing that vaccinated people can’t get COVID, because it’s obvious they can. However, by reducing the viral load of those infected, it helps contain – and thus prevent – the spread to a certain percentage of people.
Astonishing that some people still peddle this rubbish about vaccines not reducing spread and deaths.
Isn’t isolation and quarantine the same thing? Can’t get one without the other
There is no man on earth much less Public Health that can tell us what this virus will do. There is nothing new to us now save for the Lateral Test and and those are self explanatory as long as you read the results.
We have got to get past this foolishness of having the Government or public health holding our hands every step of the way. We know what to do, let’s take some responsibility for ourselves and our actions.
Even now with somany tested positive only 4 were hospitalised including North side woman who is blamed. So possibly many were there before her who were either asymptomatic or mild so never got tested. So she is not the source. In my humble opinion she should not be blamed. She and her family is hurt with this statement as she got from somewhere and suffering. Let us be careful
If Public health is saying North side woman as source for this outbreak how can they prove it. She had got from some one unless public health can prove the woman got from animal or bird or environment.
Where did the article say she was the source or that she was being blamed?! Read it again.
It’s called “genomic sequencing” or some shit like that.
Look it up and you may understand.
A guy in a canoe
It literally says in the first line of the article how they can prove it.
I think the vaccinated will cause it to spread more! That’s why the numbers went up so fast. And why I say this? Because they have less visible symptoms, they will mingle in public with a confidence that they are protected or won’t die, and more retention of viral load in the nostrils!
OMG🤣
Um, I think I go with the contrary science than your “feeling.”
Add complacency because they think they will now only get minor effects so they don’t bother to take precautions- all this ably encouraged by the stupid remarks of Dr Lee that ‘most of us will sail through this’. Unbelievable.
Yes let us bring the tourist to a high risk area that is under advisement to avoid, and give them something to take home and spread again. Once we got their dollars who cares?
Unfortunately I think you are right. There is an attitude among the vaccinated that they are invincible and covid protocols do not apply to them.
You are saying that like it’s a bad thing!
All the Florida bashing and now look at us. The irony.
Florida last daily showed 1,711 new cases.
So far over 1/4 of Florida population has had the virus and almost 60,000 Floridians have died.
I can’t see the irony there
Wait for it.
Florida bashing, irony? I’m sorry, you’ve no idea what irony is.
Cayman, transmission suppressed for roughly 18 months. Population highly vaccinated, aside from the anti-science specialists. Now there is mass transmission the government are struggling with the direction to take.
Florida. Land of the free, and the imbecile. COVID denial rampant. State governor is an actual idiot. 13,000 dead, and it’s almost always compared unfavorably to other states with just about every metric.
But yeah, irony.
Floriduh is certainly no model for us, however, we can learn from the stupidity of DeSantis and his fanatical commitment to freedom at any cost.
Many people have paid with their lives there to an insane public policy and a Governor playing politics and ignoring the science for short term political support with his Trumpian base.
So we know it was the Jamaican flight fiasco that brought Delta to Cayman; through some fraudulent means, as the woman had tested positive while in Jam.
So who is being punished for this non-accidental outbreak..and possible deaths to follow at this rate?
The old people used to say this ignorance would be the end of Cayman. Now I see too.
That was after the North Side case.
Also the ridiculous 5 days quarantine. If it was 14 none of these people would be out and about to spread it. All the official recommendations in the US are 14 days isolation to prevent spread. Too bad about mass tourism and travellers. There won’t be any tourism to the covid Islands. Quarantine is the only method to prevent spread.
You don’t know shit. Nobody knows where the Delta variant came from. Go back and hide under your bed and put another tin foil hat on while you’re at it.
Sadly the Cayman tradition of non enforcement is responsible for where we are today. The fact that the family would not comply with contact tracing is outrageous. The son should have been subject to a public health order to comply or be jailed. Well, we are where we are today. Enjoy.
Paranoia and intolerance is alive and well in Cayman .Have a nice weekend fruitcake !!
Jesus. How quickly some people are willing to ask the government to throw people in jail for simple things we wouldn’t normally worry about, when they are scared. Its amazing and I’m always mindful that..
The worst atrocities of human history were not only done by people who believed they were doing the right thing, but also people just doing their job.
I can’t wait until the ‘comply or jail’ starts expanding into the other aspects of life, then all these people who are so quick to advocate for the government to lock up everyone else will be met with karma, cosmic justice, retribution, whatever you want to call it. Do well and remember, “I was just doing my job” is not a valid excuse.
We are in the Milgram experiment.
But wait. We have to pretend it’s the ‘cabal’ (still an undefined term on these comment threads) and the rich taking advantage! Welcome to inevitability. Stop looking at others to do the basic things you as a citizen need to do to give yourself the best chance.
Cayman is acting like the pandemic just began. It actually started in March 2020.
Today’s update from CIG is from 8am yesterday. Add Thursday and Friday night will be added to this. Bad weekend for Halloween parties.
In every country, while clearly going through an epidemic, we BRIEFLY pull back a bit. Not for long, but a few weeks. Just for a few weeks, indoor bars closed, if in a (accounting or law firm…..), encourage work from home. Little things.
We are going to have an explosion of cases next week(I think and hope not), I sincerely hope I am wrong.
You. cannot hold back the ocean. This virus will run through the community. The vaccinated might not even know they contracted it. The unvaccinated may get sick. But either way it is here and here to stay. Trying to contact trace at this point is just foolish folly. Masks are a joke, how many people actually wear them properly? Maybe 20%. It makes zero sense. This has to end at some point. I think now is a good time. Rip off the BandAide!!
Quitter. Life is hard sometimes…
Masks do work to help keep your spit from becoming my spit and my spit becoming yours. Social distancing is an added bonus and getting vaccinated is a total bonus.
This is exactly what one would expect from this virus. It has an R infection value of 5 to 8. No surprise here. Luckily most of of population is vaccinated, they should sail through this with only minor symptoms. Young people similarly should have little or no serious illness. I cannot fathom why our Government is acting like this is Ebola and locking down negative persons for weeks and months. This is nonsense.
Do you need a hug for your loss of profits?
Welcome to cayman civil service. October 2021 is march 2020. Beats the post service, policing, and bank payment services..l in those cases October 2021 is March 1983
Our policing was MUCH better in 1983. Just sayin.
Lol – that was the Jim Stowers era when he listened only to Jim Bodden. Sure, there was less crime (and much less population) but don’t confuse that with better policing.
Criminals were arrested then. Foreign criminals were quickly deported.
Criminals who were protected by the elected government were certainly not arrested. People got deported if they crossed Jim Bodden. I saw it happen with my own eyes.
It is nonsense. Especially the part about locking down negative persons for months. That’s complete nonsense. Good job.
Says you who would have the virus to spread among the most vulnerable to make your herd immunity fantasy come true for your selfish reasons
Cayman playing a very dangerous games. There are places including government ran entities hotels etc that have cases of covid but you don’t hear anything about it. They are afraid cdc will put them on level 4. As usual the great cover uo
North Side variant bobo!
Represent.
Not a new variant Bobo. The delta variant. The same one that has for over 6 months been the dominant variant worldwide. Which the Pfizer vaccine protects against. Get it bobo?
The Pfizer vaccine does not protect against it. I know many people who have been vaccinated that has gotten Covid. I’m vaccinated but I know that I can still get Covid so that’s why I avoid eating in indoor restaurants, large gatherings , etc.
Well duh. Cos you really needed to gene sequence samples to figure that one out!
To the downvotes… so you think after over a year we get a case in NS then less than 2 weeks later a bunch of cases in GTP and that’s a coincidence? No link between the two? I wonder why people might not want to admit to the link?
Helps pin responsibility and many millions in liability on patient zero (who is he anyway?).
The elderly woman went into the hospital for another reason and due to protocol was tested for covid and bingo, positive. This started everyone in the community who had been suffering allergies, sinus infections, the sniffles all summer panicked and went and got tested. Bingo. Positive for covid. Covid has been in the community all along, at least all summer, but most likely all along, but because all have been told no covid in the community it was covid free, everyone ignored the sniffles, sinus infections and allergies. Now, everyone is in a panic and getting tested. The community spread is because people are not wearing masks, not social distancing and gathering in crowds.
Agree. I would estimate Covid had been community wide for at least 6 months
BS, have you ever spoken to a person that got covid and had symptoms… I’ve known 1 person to have died from it and two other males in 30s otherwise healthy say it knocked them on they behind for 2 weeks and a month for the others. It was most likely not in the community because some people would be real sick so stop talking foolishness.
How many people in Cayman have been knocked on their behind from covid? There is the difference. That is why. It has been able to be in the community for quite some time and people have ignored their symptoms and write them off as sinus infections and allergies. Lots of people were complaining of illness all summer. Not sure why people in Cayman are not getting more sick (Thankfully)- is it the outdoor living, the salt air, the sunshine, hot weather, the vaccination rate, the lack of being jammed in with millions on public transportation, who knows, but be grateful.
Covid here to stay. Everyone will get it. Vaccinated people you are spreaders -congrats
Open the boarders like normal countries.
Masks are for Halloween
Ok – then answer me this: if Covid was here all summer – which dates back four months, and Covid Delta is as contagious as everyone knows it is, then why are so many people only testing positive now? And, if my sinus infection earlier this month was actually Covid, does that mean Covid has been here for the past three years when I got a sinus infection in October of 2019 and 2020. And of that is true, do you think that means the Chinese have been experimenting on Cayman with the coronavirus for three years? Or, and I am just spitballing here, is it possible you’re talking out of your ass?
@9:40pm..Quite possibly you are doing both, spitballing and talking out of your ass..
It is more than the sniffles for some. The break over part is around 20 years old. Everyone under that number is usually extremely mild (sniffles). Those at that number are a mixed bag of mild to a week to two weeks symptomatic. As you get more years on you the cases tend to be more severe and/or just last longer. So, yes I believe it could have been circulating if the affected age group was the younger crowd. I have personal first hand knowledge as my entire family had it. The 20 year olds were either 3 days of sniffles or about 12 days of a bad cold. Me, and my spouse, 50 plus – it was a real long slog. The general rule from the numbers (and I know literally 100 or more that were sick) is if you are not mild, 4 weeks of sick/blah/weak and then another 4 weeks to build ones strength back to be at 100%.
Pretty sure covid is more than just the sniffles. I know it’s not bad enough to lock down entire countries, but seriously if covid was here all along people would have been getting sick and some would have been dying. Just because we didn’t have community spread doesn’t mean people weren’t getting tested. 1000s of people were tested over the past year and no one came back positive. That’s not because people ignored their sniffles, it’s because (for a fleeting a beautiful time) we were covid free.
How many people have died or in hospital currently in Cayman and there are over 600 positive active cases?
People were sick this summer, but not sick enough to connect their symptoms with covid because all they heard was covid free. Even now, people are not suffering horrible symptoms.
Travelers were getting tested and they were showing up positive. The local community was not being tested at these numbers. This is how covid shows up in the community- start testing children in schools, the supermarket workers, the tellers in the post office and banks etc.
Just out of curiosity …., what is the value of one life in all of this…,,,🤷♂️
except they have been testing front line workers all along.
If there had been widespread community spread, the front line workers would nearly all show up positive.
But that didn’t happen.
When numbers increase greatly, like in Cayman at present, there is around a 2 week lag until you see the same increase in hospitalisations.
An everyone forgets COVID doesn’t just lead to death, but also long covid in a much higher percentage.
My sister was frequently competing in Ironmen competetions, but after she had Covid, she can’t even climb a flight of stairs 19 months later, due to a severely enlarged heart, caused by COVID. She is in her mid-thirties and had no underlying conditions.
There are an estimated 1 miilion people in the UK currently suffering Long COVID alone.
less than the lives of all others but more if it is yours. That’s the truth.
Thanks to 14 days quarantine And policing
That narrative seems plausible, until you consider that we’ve seen additional persons hospitalized and on oxygen support. What are the odds it’s been circulating all summer, but only now coincidentally leading to small numbers of severe cases? More likely that there was some initial undetected spread (likely from breaching quarantine protocols) that has hidden the link(s) between NS and GTPS.
The spread is hitting more vulnerable populations- the infants (young children) – 2 hospitalized and an elderly woman.
Wear a mask, social distance, stay away from large crowds. Get vaccinated if you haven’t.
People keep forgetting that to leave the island travelers need to do a PCR as well as the Taxi Drivers are frequently tested. If it was in the community before September, those test to leave the island would’ve detected some positives, as they are doing now, remember the guy on the party boat? Doctor Lee even hinted to this fact that it was not widespread in the community in the first press conference when asked about the chance, since then he’s taken a step back. They need to be honest and admit that not everyone who came to Cayman was required to quarantine, like work related exemptions. Add to that all the make shift quarantine rentals and lack of proper checks. This spread is recent, maybe the last 2 months with the increased flights. But we’ll just ignore that because the Commish of Police said on TV that people where playing dominoes and to prosecute a sole because of insufficient evidence.
Covid wins 6 – Love
Seriously, every person who left Cayman on a plane over the summer was tested. Plus anyone having medical treatment, plus some people who were concerned about their sniffles.
Did I mention all the other people that went to the hospitals for non-covid reasons were tested.
So you are incorrect, but you already knew that didn’t you?
And those on the planes were testing positive and being held in quarantine – most home quarantine where a good number were breaching. That is where your first 800 cases came from, but remember- covid free.
What utter rubbish. Zero evidence.
Now the locals are being testing. That is the difference.
And the fine and imprisonment will go to????
I know where it won’t go to. One of the wealthy living in a million dollar condo or home
That didn’t break quarantine. Nor will it go to Caymanians who broke quarantine. Clearly.
Nobobo.
We are doomed, must go on lock down. Roy help us please!
Lol
No lockdown is needed. That is so 2020.
What you need to do is stay out of crowds, social distance and when you can’t mask up!
😂😂😂 this is hilarious 😂
Will the guys running drugs from Jamrock get charged with manslaughter when we have the first fatality?
Pretty sure they ain’t the ones sticking around to play dominoes.
Don’t worry, nobody (other than Skylar) is going to be charged for quarantine breaches.
Dozens have been caught, but they all had important friends or they themselves were important.
PACT/UDP way of doing business Wayne..?
Yeah, we really showed Skylar didn’t we?
Too true! The Cayman way. Weren’t some advocating to sue the Jamaican government for allowing the “Jamaican” lady on the plane from Kingston? Where are those loudmouths now? Is the lady not Jamaican?
And VJ Ramgeet…
Can’t admit eh?
Don’t be daft! It would have been impossible to arrest Skyler and not him! He got caught with his pants down. Can’t admit that eh?
Thanks for finally admitting numbnut😉
It can’t be denied. You really have some hang ups!
Cayman entitlement at its best.
Always somebody else’s fault! Should charge you more for the ganja!
8:00pm
@#£& if I care
Don’t smoke that pesticide-ridden shit out of Jamaica
You got to be really stupid to buy and smoke that
Is everyone who had the Covid that infected one who dies responsible or just those you hate?(and the unvaccinated of course) O and maybe the expats especially if not vaccinated. That would mean for everyone who dies the thousands (OK maybe a hundred) that had it first in line would need to die also. Or just the poor last guy who caught it and gave it to one who dies? Asking for a friend.
Can the paranoid idiots who keep blaming the five day quarantine please shut the hell up now?
How about we belay all blaming? How about that? Do people really scream at each other in real life? If so, I don’t hear it. So why are we doing that here?
Some of us need to chill the fuck out and work together and be kind and help one another.
Sure. But when 50 people are dead, thousands of weeks of education are lost, 200 people have lifelong disability, businesses have failed, hundreds are unemployed, and tens of millions have been spent dealing with the consequences, then can we collectively kick any halfwit that decided to run drugs during a pandemic in the XXXXX face? Or will a shrug, smile, and mumbled apology make it all cool again?
I wouldn’t think we’d need to wait to collectively kick any asshat that risked our health, drug runner or otherwise. That would be the working together part 😀
At this point, hypothesising about who or what caused the spread is not useful. What we need to do is figure out what we’re going to do about it, whether we are going try to oppose the spread of the virus, save lives, or what? Or we could just give up and go back to fighting and blaming.
I think it will take more than just government direction; I think it will take all of us, and I don’t know if I’m damn fool enough to dare to hope that is possible. That would be the ‘chill the fuck out and help’ part, even if “help” means just not hurting things, doing your little part, being more careful, using your head. Help.
Wear a mask, social distance, avoid crowded places.
Why or how does this article discredit the 5-day quarantine argument? That would have still been a possibility
Possibility? Please elaborate with some facts.
Spot on , a lot of paranoid dreamers in denial on here. They still do not get it, maybe the penny will drop one day. We can only hope.
6:20 pm, you are up for the biggest idiot of the year award and we know you going to win by far .
Coming from someone who doesn’t know how many times he’s pressed a button.
6;20 pm you are the biggest idiot of all time my friend. Stay safe .
At least we got ganja though.
Jamaica. The gift that keeps on giving.