‘Needle’ finally moves on vaccine rate
(CNS): It has taken two weeks for the national COVID-19 vaccination rate to move up just 1%. The needle finally moved from 64% to 65% on Wednesday but the number of people taking up the first shot remains stalled at 69%, after just 66 came forward to begin the two-dose course. According to the demographics of those who have had at least one dose, well over 80% of all those aged over 40 have been vaccinated.
But the problem remains among the youngest members of the community. Just 37% of those aged between 12 and 18 have had their first shot. That number increases as the population ages: 69% of adults between 18 and 30, 77% between 30 and 40, 83% between 40 and 50, 86% between 50 and 60, and 88% of those over 60.
Speaking in parliament on Wednesday, Premier Wayne Panton begged people to get vaccinated so that the borders can open safely. But government has not yet said what will happen on 9 September, the day when the requirement to isolate is scheduled to be dropped for travellers with a verifiable vaccination history, if the target of 80% of the Cayman population has not been reached.
While the vaccine is doing its job and preventing those infected with COVID-19 from becoming ill, the virus is still spreading. The premier noted today that there are now 1,147 active cases in the British Virgin Islands, where opening the borders too soon resulted in a surge of infections. However, unlike Cayman, only around 31% of the population in the BVI has been fully vaccinated with the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine.
Two people there have died recently and there are 18 people in hospital, four of whom are in intensive care. With the advanced community transmission now happening, BVI’s epidemiologist is predicting there could be as many as 5,500 cases of COVID in the next two weeks.
“That will constitute a public health disaster for them as much as it would for us,” Panton said Wednesday, as he begged people to get vaccinated. The premier pointed out that of the 18 people in hospital in BVI, 17 were not vaccinated.
Meanwhile, given that Cayman’s borders are still closed, there is still no community transmission here and has not been for over one year. There were no new positive cases among the 531 COVID-19 tests carried out over the last day and there are just two active non-symptomatic cases among the 1,118 travellers currently in isolation and quarantine.
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I was watching YouTube and it said wees black people cannot get Covid.
Wees 🤔😂
We have a terrible public education system here. Sorry.
Just over 100 people received a vaccination today proving beyond any doubt that the government’s plan is failing. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result then those making the vaccination planning decisions must be lacking in sanity.
Why are they not conducting interviews to find out why people are not getting vaccinated.
Why have they not deployed vaccination vans to worksites, large grocery stores and other places people are. Mobile vaccination clinics have been a huge success elsewhere.
Where is the campaign to counter all of the misinformation circulating on social media.
WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP!
Governments plan is not failing, it’s going exactly as they planned. Government on the other hand, failing epically.
That is total doses. First doses only 31. The first dose is the number to watch.
You mean 31 people today.
Just 31 people got the first dose over the last day. 31. Seriously, 31. 3 to 4 doses an hour.
Cumulative first doses to July 15th 49,081; cumulative first doses to July 14th49,050
July 15h update: https://www.gov.ky/news/press-release-details/covid-19-update-15-july-2021
July 14th update: https://www.gov.ky/news/press-release-details/covid-19-update-14-july-2021
If government had any moral fortitude they would publish an apology with those numbers. The airport site has run its course and continuing there is a farce.
Quite frankly it’s an absolute disgrace what this government have done this summer with flights and the airport policy. I cleverly booked a ghost flight to London in may when Boris announced the color lists, 700 usd on BA per person return for a month in August, then when PACT told them BA can only fly every fortnight in august and September, my flight to London was still there but my return was cancelled as it was full and a week later originally. No risk as BA fully refund at no charge until 2023.
Meanwhile cayman airways put on multiple flights a week to Miami, raise the prices from 300 return to 950 usd return for the last flights. It’s a clear policy of the government to prevent residents who haven’t seen their families or elderly parents in many cases from traveling to Europe, and trying to make them feed cash to cayman airways or local staycations. It won’t work – most well off expats are determined to stop spending money on staycations and likely the cash will just increase house prices further.
All the flights to the uk on BA and to Miami on cayman airways are fully booked.., we are trapped… but the booking system and flights are nothing to do with Covid or repatriation. Just a case of whoever spends the most gets the seats.
There is no valid reason why BA can’t be allowed to fly daily to and from London all summer … don’t open to tourists if that’s the policy, but let vaccinated residents and caymanians fly and quarantine for 5 days when back. What is the risk? The financial services and other sectors are propping up the economy but no one who works within them and is double jabbed is allowed to fly anywhere and quarantine upon return. It’s close to being illegal and a gigantic human rights violation.
I agree. It is so unfair that they wont put on more flights on Cayman Airways for residents, essentially restricting us from travelling.
Im fully vaxed and happy to quarantine for 5 or 6 days.
I just want to be able to see my mother for the first time in 2 years. FU Mr. Panton.
Original poster here. Good luck to you and hang in there. It’s daylight robbery but the best you can do is not put your hard earned dollars into the cayman economy this summer and hopefully have an extended break abroad when they see sense.
Caution urged by someone in the know -Guardian sourced
“England’s Chief Medical Officer warned that the number of people in hospital with Covid-19 is currently doubling about every three weeks and could reach “quite scary numbers” if the trend continues.
Speaking at a webinar hosted by the Science Museum, Prof Whitty said: “I don’t think we should underestimate the fact that we could get into trouble again surprisingly fast.”
I know! – would somebody please bribe him to lie and say that everything is fine!
Government should void insurance coverage for Covid unless the patient has had both shots. Those who are not vaccinated who get Covid would be deemed to be self inflicted
BS
They should do the same when those vaccinated start to experience all sort of medical issues and drop like flies within the next 2 years…
4:21 Perhaps at the same time people of your hateful and ignorant mindset can also be declared a mental case.
They should void it for the fat asses with diabetes that still eat junk too.
Israel, which has vaccination levels similar to ours is taking appropriate steps to reduce Covid risks – Guardian reports –
“Israel is planning tougher health restrictions to combat rising cases of Covid-19 as the Delta variant spreads, the prime minister’s office said in a statement.
If the new plans are approved by parliament, only those vaccinated or who have recovered from coronavirus will be allowed to take part in indoor events of more than 100 people, AFP reports.
They will also have to wear masks, except for eating and drinking.”
You should just stop reading the Guardian.
The times or telegraph is half the price of the compass for a year and trust me, you’ll learn a lot more about the world outside your gangs and stipend booze sessions
I don’t know about you but head in the sand and a$$ in the air is not comfortable – I prefer information.
Interesting how any comment or coverage that does not fall inline with your beliefs should not be read.
Has anyone thought to poll the remaining unvaccinated residents to see how they feel about a border opening plan? It seems there are many who do not want the vaccine but are in favor of reopening the borders and anyone who is vaccinated should also be fine with it.
Other countries are asking questions of people not vaccinated in an effort to understand the issues. We should be asking our own people to see why they don’t want to get vaccinated:
lack of access
misinformation
lack of information
irrational fear
peer pressure
Trump supporter, other idiocy etc
I and my many Trump supporting friends have all been vaccinated for months.
Then you’re an economic supporter. Usually the type easier to stomach but still insufferable.
Excellent – I won’t tell the big orange man if you don’t.
Friggin moron. What a dumb a$$ statement Trump supporters not getting vaccinated. Who in the hell do you think fast tracked the vaccine through.
Hope you are enjoying Bidenomics got to love the gas price he has created
And who the hell very quietly got himself and all his family vaccinated?
The “stable genius”.
Why so quiet?
Well Pfizer was the one that did and it has nothing to do with Trump. the only thing he did was circumvent the FDA approval which is why his supporters won’t take it. Smart bunch huh.
MYOFB
experimental drug so safe the companies can’t be sued for damages.
Government is perfectly happy with their January reopening timetable. They are not interested in choosing any options that would make it more suitable to open earlier than January. Everything being said is a smokescreen for their real intentions in my opinion.
“Alcatraz”
Today marks the first week in the US, that vaccine deaths have surpassed covid deaths. In one week.
Don’t believe me, check the CDC website.
We are all guinea pigs.
CNS: I couldn’t find anything more recent but I suspect you’ve found something along these lines. This is a month old – Fact Check-No evidence the number of vaccine deaths will rival the number of COVID deaths
Thank you CNS for your ongoing education efforts – when the trolls and the ‘lizard people are controlling the world’ folks make implausible submissions maybe they could be asked for evidence??
If you look at the bar chart in the Compass today (link below), you will see that most of the unvaccinated are under 30, and the vaccination rate amongst the under-30 group has barely budged in the last two weeks. This is in contrast to the most vulnerable – over 50 year – who have vaccination rates approaching 90% (remarkable).
It is clear that everyone that wanted a vaccine has pretty much come forward, with a handful of stragglers each day now. We have essentially vaccinated all VACCINE-WILLING people. We have ample vaccine supply, absolutely no line-ups to wait in anymore. Face it, some people are unwilling/unable to get the vaccine, and we are clearly at that spot now. What are we waiting for?
https://www.caymancompass.com/2021/07/15/slowing-vaccination-pace-jeopardises-caymans-reopening-timeline/
They are all swap on vacation. Oops, I meant “essential travel”.
*away
Under 30 don’t think they have much risk to worry about. They are right.
So why are we keeping the border closed to protect them?
Unless of course they worry about killing those over 50. Which they probably don’t.
Quite frankly, screw anyone over 50 who has chosen not to get vaccinated.
The people over 50 have got their shots or don’t intend to so why worry about them?
Exactly, those at risk are over75% vaccinated. For CIG to demand that 12-18 yr olds be vaccinated, in light of higher side effects and less need in this group, is medical malpractice. This is something Dr Lee may comprehend.
Yes but will big pharma understand why you don’t want their medicine?
Mr. Panton talks about inequality being an issue, while at the same time setting an unrealistic vaccination target (we are already #3 in the world!) that will inevitably further delay income opportunities for lower-income people.
It’s not unrealistic, it’s impossible. But then Wayne knows this.
Another reason to get vaccinated – from the Guardian today
The World Health Organization has warned that “more dangerous” variants of Covid-19 could spread across the world as global infections soared to half a million daily, largely driven by the virulent Delta strain.
An AFP tally of official sources found that after an initial dip, cases have been rising again worldwide since the end of June, topping 540,000 on Tuesday and again yesterday.
“The pandemic is nowhere near finished,” the WHO’s emergency committee said in a statement. It highlighted “the strong likelihood for the emergence and global spread of new and possibly more dangerous variants of concern that may be even more challenging to control”.
Yet another sensible Covid related decision, this time in Canada where the government of the province of Manitoba has decided that only fully vaccinated people will be able to attend gatherings at museums, galleries, cinemas, and other indoor venues.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-covid-19-restrictions-reopening-phase-2-update-1.6102139
I’m fully vaccinated for a long time now and do not care if the unvaccinated are all around me. Let’s cut the bs and open the border.
I agree but I’d rather have vaccine passports than waiting indefinitely to get to an 80% vaccination rate.
Except opening the border to Florida. 1 in 5 new COVID cases in the U.S. were in Florida the past week.
Miami Dade county leads the way with nearly 8,000 new cases.
We are going into a hole again in America with too many people not getting vaccinated.
I just watched the Minister of Tourism of Mauritius on CNN inviting tourists and business visitors to that island’s “resort bubble” experience.
Even if PACT Government were to embrace the resort bubble concept, I wonder if “our” Minister of Tourism could manage a CNN interview (without his notes)?
Resort bubbles – I remember those – that is where staff bring whatever they catch inside the bubble back to their homes and also where staff go back to infected areas during their time off and bring whatever they catch back into the bubble.
Perfect! That’s about it!
Doubling from under 30s mainly in the uk who have slowed in getting the vacccine, thinking they are immune. Get the jab.
The vaccines don’t seem to be stopping the spread or halting transmission. Cases are spiking globally again. The same people are dying now as before the vaccines – the known vulnerables. The IFR’s have not really changed whether you are vaccinated or not – old, obese, already ill…you’re in trouble.
This is not to say taking a vaccine is wrong, its likely a good idea if you’re a known vulnerable. It should reduce your illness. It’s possibly less necessary than you believe it to be if you’re under 60 and healthy.
There is increasing data showing that more people are ending up in hospital globally that have been vaccinated, this could be simply due to their age etc Or it could be a sign that the vaccine’s effects on our immune systems may not be a positive one.
We’re being advised boosters are coming, inside 12 months of already having taken 2 doses of many of these vaccines.
The vaccines are in trial into 2023. There is a chance that maybe, just maybe, these vaccines will not rid the world of covid and that in actuality the methods we’ve used to rid the risk of covid (lockdowns/vax/etc) are wrong and we should just shield the vulnerable and let it rip.
its becoming less of a conspiracy and more of a valid question – this seasonal virus with its obvious target victims just may better be dealt with by ignoring it among most of the population.
Cue the pro-vax zealots now, but before you attack, do note that myself and my family are all vax’d. We’re just wondering why we bothered with more and more info coming out…which is how most things in life work – you need experience to know what you’re doing. The world didn’t have it.
It does now. We should change how we’re acting and simply protect the known vulnerables and get on with it. All other actions are utterly futile, especially travel restrictions/quarantine/testing/etc. They do not work.
The virus is gonna virus. And that’s ok.
Fortunately we have good data with over a billion people vaccinated.
In the US, over 95% of current Covid hospitalizations and deaths are from unvaccinated (or not fully vaccinated) individuals. Same with the UK.
You are right, the virus will continue to circulate, likely forever. Vaccinations are the best, albeit not perfect, tool we have in our toolbox.
The Spanish courts have just ruled lockdown illegal. Based on human rights legislation that also applies here. All those fined for breaching the lockdown are now to be refunded by the Spanish Govt. The Govt here simply cannot keep us locked on the island whilst failing miserably in ENFORCING people to get jabbed. The plan simply isn’t working. Simple things like requiring people to show their vaccination card to enter any public space including restaurants, bars, shops etc,etc. And ban them from flying. I forsee legal action against the Govt to set a date to FULLY open the border regardless if we’ve met the 80% target. I believe anyone challenging will win based on the utterly incompetent tactics to get people to get the jab. They need to start making it happen instead of crossing their fingers it will. And as a final point can we stop with the continuing divisive politics forcing expats to take it while ignoring locals. It is divisive and if someone has a three year permit are yiu going to qait 3 yrs to open the bloody border!?!?!? This disease impacts the whole community to lets think up policies that force people of all nations to get it or get banned from public spaces and public facing jobs.
Totally with you in relation to ‘requiring people to show their vaccination card to enter any public space including restaurants, bars, shops etc,etc.’ And banning them from flying.
Don’t think the litigation idea has a snowballs chance in hell however. The Spanish court did not say that any lockdown is prohibited. They simple decided that the way the Spanish government went about it was unlawful.
“Concerned” seems very pugnacious here….
First of all to make it crystal clear, Spain is not the Cayman Islands, and the Cayman Islands are not Spain.
Second, no one is forcing you to take a vaccine. CIG is simply enforcing conditions for non-residents who CHOOSE to continue to stay here. Non-residents tend to travel in and out of the islands more often, which is a greater safety risk than those who remain unvaccinated but sheltered.
Like it is your human right to not take the vaccine and follow the guidance as you wish, it is also your human right to leave.
Nobody is forcing you to stay in the Cayman Islands if you do not like how operations are now being conducted. Only your addiction to the high life Cayman provides to you is your slavemaster. If Spain is desirable to you, please make accommodations to siphon off their government, permanently move there, and suppress and disrespect the Spanish locals just like expatriates of your kind have done to the Caymanian ones without remorse.
Ironically, the same ones who are trying at the border locks are the same ones who will sue government if they contract COVID for the removal of those same border locks! Simply hypocritical and childish behavior. Bet threats of repatriation will settle any court claims.
It is so disgusting, appalling, and deplorable how people have become so aggressively entitled to demand things without respect, dignity, or common sense for anyone around them in a country that isn’t even theirs. Me, myself, and I are the only important things in their jaded, self-centric sphere of a viewpoint. I am no doctor, but this looks like symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder if you ask me. Too many untreated patients running around that need to get over themselves, as well.
The borders will reopen when it is completely safe to do so for ALL Caymanian residents, and not a day sooner. End of discussion.
AMEN!!
What a complete bunch of illogical rubbish! If you want to be safe, go get vaccinated. No excuse for waiting this long.
We could get to 80% in 8 days if the hold outs get vaccinated. But they wont. And the rest of us have to wait for these people to change their mind.
You do realise that viruses mutate, right?
If current vaccines don’t protect you from novel variant illness (like they don’t stop transmission for known strains), you know we all will have to do this process over, right?! 🤯
COVID variants are spreading because people continue to travel, contract it, and bring it back to other places, all unbeknown to themselves.
Think, squire, think!
Variants are spreading because people do not have access to vaccines in some places and because some people are refusing to get vaccinated.
BS logic. Your statement is only true if implying that every person on the planet already has COVID. It is fast spreading but your logic is simply not valid.
Critical thinking caps on with no yellow journalism sources when commenting please.
So it’s a cure not a vaccine?
I’m sorry the simple science so so above your head.
Well he is kind of forced to stay here. There aren’t any flights on which to leave. Just saying….
Your not a country. You are a British Overseas Territory. One that regularly feeds off the UK taxpayer while you pay no tax. I live here but pay UK tax. So by proxy I am paying for people to be vaccinated here. I don’t worry about that. But you can imagine it becomes somewhat personal when I am kept here because the borders are closed and I haven’t seen my elderly father for over two years. I just believe that while I take the vaccine has no impact on you, you not taking it does impact me. I do not believe these Islands will ever get to 80%. I doubt 75%. Yet the govt has no plan on what they do in that scenario. I also doubt the figues on population/volume unvaccinated. I note someone commenting their relative, lives here but has been vaccinated elsewhere. Then of course there are people who can’t take it through illness or other. With numbers coming forward to take it diminishing, the trend is not pointing to ever getting to 80%. The reason I think a legal challenge will work is because the Govt have no plan to encourage vaccinations through messaging, marketing, consequences or otherwise. There are more ideas on CNS threads than emminating out of the Govt. Add to that the very serious step of removing a person’s liberty to move freely. It is not to be done lightly. A legal challenge would centre on enforcing a date to open. Finally, you have no clue why I am here, what I do nor what I ‘take’ from Cayman. You seem to think I am ‘living the high life’ and I am addicted to it. I am not living the high life, I have worked for a charity here to help a disabled man get his electricity on – I helped to fix a generator. I also have supported several families in need with grants and supplied revenue to other charities. So before you make an ass of yourself, it’s probably wise not to assume. I make the point about expats being forced to take the vaccine as divisive because it seems to me to be the ‘go to’ strategy for a limited intelligence government policy machine. Always to attack the expat when it is expats that generate the revenue here. And that’s a fact.
From the Guardian this morning –
“The UK has recorded another sharp rise in Covid cases and deaths in its latest figures. It recorded 63 fatalities, a day after recording 49 new deaths. This is the highest daily increase in deaths since 26 March and underlines warnings that while the vaccine programme has weakened the link between new cases and deaths it has not broken it.”
If you knew anything going on in the Uk you would know that the UK is desperately trying to open up to recover its economy. Those are deaths with Covid not from Covid. They are no longer monitoring the numbers but the severity of the the disease.
Please don’t try and distort the facts.
Rubbish. Just like people die with multiple gunshot wounds to the brain not from it.
If you are a resident on this island you should be able to come and go as you please. I thought that is what quarantine was for?
If you are a resident on this island and vaccinated, you should also be able to come and go at will.
We should not have to have an essential reason to come and go!! Mental health is essential enough.
you do wonder where the human rights lawyers are these days
Still crying in to their Pims over the result on the weekend.
Hahahahaha.
It’s not quarantine that is the problem for resident travel (as opposed to tourists) as much as the lack of flights ( but that apparently is driven by lack of resources to monitor quarantine).
An excellent article on re-opening risk in the UK context was published yesterday in the scientific journal ‘Nature’
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01938-4
The UK vaccination rate is a bit lower than ours at the moment but even the UK government is projecting 100 – 200 deaths per day about 6 weeks after opening with a population that has been largely vaccinated.
Given that Cayman’s population is 1000 times smaller than the UK population, and the same level of Covid susceptibility, that would suggest taht we can expect 1 – 2 deaths per week if we open with current vaccination levels. Is that acceptable to anybody outside the funeral industry?
Yes. Because those people should have gotten vaccinated. If they are one of the two or three people that cannot take the vaccine for true medical reasons than they need to protect themselves as they probably do already.
The UK has also decided to open up anyway because they realize covid is going to be endemic and they can’t stay locked down forever.
then get vaccinated! Clearly the remaining holdouts have no intention of getting jabbed, so what do we do, wait forever?
We can do hundreds of jabs a day.
Then get vaccinated!
Uh NO! Mind your own business and go get your booster your antibodies to covid are diminishing.
@ 9.30am No, your maths is wrong; a thousandth of 100-200 is .1-.2 (not 1-2 as you say). Or was your ‘mistake’intentional?
I am sorry that you cannot read or do math. The original post noted the UK’s estimate of 100-200 deaths PER DAY, the relative population size of Cayman, and CORRECTLY translated that to 1 – 2 deaths PER WEEK in Cayman assuming similar infection rates. I understand that the Dept of Education is putting on adult remedial learning if you are interested.
Ummmm – try reading the original post again carefully this time. The author says 1-2 per week not per day, which is probably about right.
200 per day in UK translates to 1.4 per week in Cayman using his figures. 100 equates to 0.7. Keeping in mind that the 100-200 estimate is no more than idle speculation.
UK Guardian today:
“ Within 72 hours of the French learning they would soon need to be vaccinated or tested to go to the cafe, more than 3 million had booked appointments and France had broken its vaccination record, administering 800,000 shots in a single day.”
There your you go Wayne. Not popular but certainly effective.
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Something needs to happen. The Islands cannot afford to miss another tourism season. Come on PACT, act now before it’s too late.
It’s already too late for high season. I’ve had many inquiries about booking our property but as soon as I share the reopening plan everyone says they are going to look elsewhere because they are afraid that Cayman won’t hit the vaccination target or (this is the big concern) that Cayman will not find a way to accept the US vaccine cards. Not ONE person has booked because they do not trust the islands will really reopen.
BUT- if Cayman could say they would open to vaccinated travelers without a quarantine period and the date is Nov. 1, firm, people would book.
No one wants to book when things are too up in the air and goal posts are moving all the time.
Vaccinated travelers will still have to quarantine if we want to keep Covid out.
Yes, 10:15 you are right: they would book if Cayman would say that but Panton has made it clear PACT won’t budge on their requirements. And there remains the issue of how CIG will verify vaccination for people not vaccinated in Cayman or the EU. This seems to be a very big worry for people I’ve spoken with
Funny how people are now traveling all over the world on the US vaccination card and other countries are accepting them just fine. Hope the Premier realizes no one will book a holiday (7-10 days) and have to quarantine 5-10 days of it when there are many other places to travel. How long will Cayman lock out the US traveler? Forever?
We came down last month to check the house and did the 10 day quarantine. Won’t be doing that again, ever. Better get yourselves open or we’re going to cash out while real estate is up. There are many places just as safe and much prettier. I guarantee we’re not alone thinking this.
@2:09 – US CDC vaccine cards are good enough for other countries but clearly not for Cayman. To me, this indicates CIG wishes to keep US visitors at bay for as long as possible. Thoughts?
Interesting how you are recommended to consult with your doctor or pharmacy when you paracetamol, but this vaccine? “Walk-in, Roll up and Jab In”, doesn’t matter your medical history, if you weigh 120 or 220 kg, your blood group etc…..Crazy world!
I hope that all Pastors and religious leaders are encouraging their congregations to receive the vaccination.
They should have been doing that a long time ago!
Tourists don’t tithe.
The Chinese have taken note of the need to protect their population during this part of the pandemic:
“Millions of Chinese people face bans from public spaces including schools, hospitals and shopping malls unless they get a Covid-19 vaccine, under new edicts covering nearly two dozen cities and counties.”
8.06pm – the chinese communist party also killed over 40 million people in the 20th Century alone
8:06pm – Funny how you and millions other Fox (Faux = Fake) News and crazy right-wing embracing sheep have suddenly started referring to the “Chinese Communist Party”. China has been ruled by that Party which has gone by that westernized version of the name since Mao Tse Tung’s revolution!! But CURIOUSLY, when Trump was embracing, praising and loving-up Xi Jinping they were “the Chinese” – greatest people ever! After Trump’s sing-song about “China-virus” and his attitude toward China flipped 180, they have become “the Chinese Communist Party” to his follower.
My point is, just goes to show how easily sheep like you allow your minds to be altered by your fave media slop and those who dish it out – like Hannity, Carlson, Ingraham, Bartiromo, mindless sheep themselves and other purveyors of Trump-shit!!
Get a life and realize that your Donald J. Trump is setting himself (or successors) up to totally destroy America’s Constitution and set up a dictatorship in America! He almost did his first term!! He’s controlled by Putin, who is btw, a remnant of the Russian Communist Party.
Why curse the Chinese Communist when your Trump is controlled by a Russian Communist!!
It’s very clear to me which party is attempting to destroy the US constitution. If the word “right” were but changed to the word “left” in your rant, then what you cry and spew about would be true. It’s as they say, you drank the Kool Aid from the left. A huge glassful. You may have your own opinions but you may not change the facts. When China put this plague upon us, President Trump had to turn his back to this nation. China continues to take no responsibility for this catastrophe. The “sheep” as you call the right, do not partake of the lies that inhabit the White House at this time and it leaves them desperate. Their agenda will ultimately fail because Americans put a very high value on their freedom and not dependency on the government.The Trump vaccine, with all it’s speed, has, as you know, been a life saver from this China virus. If you got “your” shot, be thankful Biden wasn’t in charge. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Facts are facts.
Such vitriol. Calm down.
I believe a button was pushed.
This was not harsh opprobrium, but fact.
In any event, I do hope the Cayman Islands relinquishes some power in keeping it’s citizens
stuck on the Island. The world is moving forward
safely, but with reasonable caution.
The Guardian reports a message from the French people that our government should note although I doubt that they will do anything:
“Within 72 hours of the French learning they would soon need to be vaccinated or tested to go to the cafe, more than 3 million had booked appointments and France had broken its vaccination record, administering 800,000 shots in a single day.”
Major protests against vaccines in France, Greece and Cuba.
Media?
*crickets*
CNS: Cubans are not protesting against vaccines. They are protesting about economic hardship exacerbated by the pandemic. Some media outlets have suggested that lack of access to vaccines during a surge of covid is a factor, but the main thrust is inflation, power blackouts, lack of goods in the shops and no money to buy anything anyway.
There’s plenty of articles in the media about the protests in France and Greece. What point are you making?
You should really read the articles and not just headlines. Thanks CNS, thumbs up to you.
If my child was 12 and planning to go back to school in September, I’d be getting them vaccinated post haste. All those returning from their summer “essential travel” will be bringing all sorts with them.
Shameful and blatant fear mongering article CNS.
BVI is not a comparable situation and this article has no age demographics or medical i.e. any co-morbidities information. Maybe you could concentrate on how we are 4th in the world with the vaccine roll out and are standing in VERY good stead re Covid.
The Government knows this. This “Needle watching” is just the excuse not to open and everyone can see it.
Get the law passed for work permit holders.
A lottery with a $1,000,000 prize.
Tickets are $10
Already vaccinated get a free ticket.
New vaccinations get 10 free tickets.
Draw date is the day we hit 80%!
Just a random idea, but without ideas there will be no change. The airport is not cutting it anymore.
Stop rewarding these people that are holding us down. If you want to do a lottery everyone should be entered and it should be across-the-board fair because that’s just rewarding shitty behavior.
Like all good brainstorming sessions, the correct thing to say is… “Ok, what else ya go?”
Without change, 80% is a pipedream.
Unless that lottory is run by a reputable accounting firm, my ticket would not stand a chance.
Contracting COVID-19 after getting vaccinated
https://www.winknews.com/2021/07/14/contracting-covid-19-after-getting-vaccinated/
“Just did my best to listen to logic, doctors, scientists,” said Chris Speake”
CNS: From the same article:
“Vaccines in general are never intended to completely wipe out disease. They’re intended to keep you from getting sick. And that’s actually working in a great way,” said Dr. Stephanie Stovall, interim chief quality and safety officer at Lee Health.
Stovall said that while breakthrough COVID-19 cases like Speake’s happen, patients typically have mild symptoms.
“Most of them are getting sick and going home and riding it out at home – doing fine.”
Thank you once again CNS!
CNS There are also the majority of those that got sick before the shot was available that ride it out at home. So, not sure what that point is.
I know personally of 5 people (friends and relatives) between the US and UK that got The Covid prior to the jab being available. I am NOT saying that is the norm but I also do not personally know 1 person that has died from it.
Again, I am not saying this is the norm!! Nor am I denying it has been deadly. It has been very scary.
But so is the Flu if you are at risk.
I have an uncle (74) that died from the flu 3 years ago. There’s a jab for that too that I will not get. And I am NOT anti-vax.
I rarely get sick (knock on wood)and I am not in the at-risk group.
Now everyone get your pitchforks out, and thumb down this comment while secretly hoping I get The Covid.
👍👍👍👍 Good comment!.
“There’s a jab for that too that I will not get. And I am NOT anti-vax.”
Your actions literally speak otherwise.
To the other idiocy on display – yes, many, many people survive COVID-19. Many people also have asymptomatic infection or only very mild, short-lived symptoms. The vaccine arguably does little for those particular individuals as individuals. However, and this speaks more to the concept of PUBLIC health, the vaccine assists to mitigate the severity of illness for those persons who otherwise would have had severe illness or died. Some tiny number of vaccinated persons will still get severe illness and die. But a lot less than if they were not vaccinated. And the risk to them of being infected in the first instance is also reduced by others being vaccinated. The marginal benefit at the individual level is relatively low (although you wouldn’t know it until retrospectively it turns out you were an unlucky one to get really sick or die), but the marginal benefit at the community level is quite high.
Public Health is never about the individual, it’s about the community. It’s clear from your perspective that you don’t extend much value beyond the individual level. You will probably be fine, health-wise. But you’re still an asshole, reading between the lines.
Oh really CNS? A vaccine isn’t intended to wipe out disease?
What about polio eh?
Herd immunity?
Last I checked immunity is defined as an organisms ability to resist infection.
The vaccine isn’t granting immunity then is it?
You can’t be considered immune if you can still be infected while asymptomatic.
That means the organism is a carrier of the disease and not immune.
So when I hear these vax idiots on here talking about how it’s the unvaccinated fault for covid spreading, you all need to take your heads out of each other asses and actually begin to crtically think.
I’m no anti vax. I’m vaccinated. That’s a fact.
CNS: I didn’t pick the link. I only added the quote because the commenter was focusing on the headline “Contracting COVID-19 after getting vaccinated”, indicating that the vaccine is of no use. Your rant is little confusing and I’m not really sure what you are trying to say but this might help:
Cleveland Clinic – Can Vaccinated People Transmit COVID-19 to Others?
NYT – Delta Variant Widens Gulf Between ‘Two Americas’: Vaccinated and Unvaccinated
More people have been murdered in Cayman in the past 3 weeks than died from COVID in the last year.
Thank you for that astute observation, Captain Obvious. You failed to mention that the reason few have died of COVID-19 is because of stringent controls that have worked to contain community transmission.
The last two years.
Because the borders are closed. When we open there will be community spread, so get vaccinated before we open.
Sadly there is a link between unemployment, poverty and rising crime. The border closure may be protecting some but at the expense of others.
Cases cases cases… has anyone contact the mortuaries in Cayman? Have you asked them how their volume has increased over the last 6 months…? Go on and give them a call. There’s only 2 and pop their response here and see if they confirm the 50% increase in the last 6 months.
#lockdownkills
Tinfoil alert
another article full of fear and little facts on age, demographics, etc…
one thing is clear – Cayman is hiding it’s own stats. there is something getting transmitted in the community, we all know it. and it doesn’t appear to be the good old familiar flu.
The main thing spreading in our community is disinformation being spread by anti-vaxxers and Covid deniers.
The unvaccinated holding us hostage. I’ve been desperately trying every day to book flights leaving and returning to Cayman this summer to see my elderly mother for the first time in two years. I refresh the Cayman Airways site multiple times a day hoping something opens up.
I just need to get to Miami and I can get home…does anyone know who I can call to perhaps arrange a private flight to Miami? I know Island Air was sold a couple years ago. ( I’ve emailed TravelTime, Cayman Airways and a few members of government but have not received a single reply). I can’t give away my money it seems!
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated 😀. I wish the government would just allow Cayman Airways to put on a couple more flights on a compassionate basis. Very, very unfair. I’ve been fully vaccinated for months and happy to do the quarantine on return. I’m desperate, frustrated ( and getting a bit sad when thinking of my mother). No one really seems to care.
Ask a Cuban.
The government is holding you hostage.
Yes, the government is artificially and severely limiting flights for residents who need to travel. Two to three flights a week? Seriously?
And all have been sold out for awhile.
CIG wants residents here spending money in restaurants, shops, staycations etc because they won’t allow tourists. That’s why they won’t add flights.
Your first line makes NO SENSE as to the balance of your whining about flights.
There is NO real reason that KX cannot put more flights on. And the fact that ALL are full let’s them know they can fill more planes.
Bermuda has about 5+ flights DAILY.
We could probably fill 2 daily is not more, even with our borders closed!!
You should be able to come and go at will. Residents that have been vaccinated (OR NOT!!!) should be able to travel in and out of here AT WILL!!
Those that do not have the shot have absolutely NOTHING to do with how many flights we could have. It’s all about control.
Plenty of empty seats on yesterdays flight. Ask cayman airways how to fly standby.
“The premier noted today that there are now 1,147 active cases in the British Virgin Islands, where opening the borders too soon resulted in a surge of infections”
HAHA what a joke opening to early…Turks and Caicos has been open for almost 12 months and is having the busiest sensor on record.
Probably because we are closed still!
The Premier is correct that BVI is a disaster.
Your comments on TCI are rubbish. TCI’s tourism sector is open but struggling and opening has caused Covid to spread.
TCI has almost the same vaccination rate that we have, they have had more than 2000 cases in a population much smaller than ours and then have had 18 deaths with 2 people now in ICU.
On top of that TCI has mandatory masks and social distancing of the type we had more than a year ago – If you think that is wonderful you go there.
TCI is also open to all and does not have a vaccination requirement.
Even if they wanted to move to TCI, they’d be unable leave here as there are no flights.
My 19 year old son is Caymanian. He was vaccinated abroad with Pfizer. Where does he count in the local stats? Local, but unvaccinated?
Unvaccinated since they are only counting the Habs they have given. But I can’t imagine the number of people vaccinated overseas and resident here is high enough to move the percentages. You would need over 700 people in that category to change the percentage by even 1%
Exactly! A lot of Caymanians from the last census are living/being educated overseas & have had their shots there. My two adult children for example.
There are a lot of seniors who have left since the last census too, as they cannot afford health insurance here.
Can someone please explain how our population count was derived?
I was told at the airport on entry that my family’s vaccination details (all Pfizer, all administered in the US) would be included in the local vaccination stats as we are Caymanian. That was before they decided that neither we nor our vaccination cards could be trusted, of course.
Get the Pubic Health Law changed in the next Cabinet meeting to have all those on work permits vaccinated, that will push the numbers up.
Set up a van to go to all the major construction sites. There are a lot of people here on work permits in the construction field that are not even bothering to go get their vaccination. I know because I work on a major site. Some are into the conspiracy theories but some just don’t care or don’t want to take the time to go it done.
We need a much stronger campaign and we have to go to the people. So many times I am talking to people at work and they say they don’t have the time to go to Camana Bay or the airport. In essence they are just being damn lazy and dragging this out. We were sitting around at lunch the other day and they were basically saying they will go get it only when the government says they have to..Again just lazy and holding us up from opening. They are not going home and will take the vaccination when the time comes but we either have to put the law in place or figure out a way of bringing it to them. They don’t care. For them the longer we stay locked up the better. They are making good money and none of them are going to go back to their covid infected countries..The government needs to act.
THANK YOU!
I agree. But everyone who medically can needs to be required to be vaccinated if they are gainfully employed regardless of status. The bar at 80% and the huge increase in population means that everyone who can be needs to be unless they change the 80% to those able to receive the vaccine rather than the whole population. The expats alone will not bring us up to 80% of the total population.
The problem is that Panton is not capable of acting. It’s been weeks since he mentioned requiring it for WP holders and still nothing.
So many things that could be done, such as vaccine passports for restaurants etc, but Panton is just hiding in his office with his fingers crossed. Maybe he’s scared that his government will fall apart if he makes any real decisions.
Thank you Pastor Jorge for setting an example.
We need to see more Pastors encouraging their congregations to get vaccinated. Pastor Alson of the Church of God was one the first to come forward but there are a lot of Pastors particularly in the Jamaican dominant congregations that need to step forward and do the right thing and to dispel the conspiracy theories.
Two forking weeks for 1%. Well I’ll leave the maths to the CNS accounts but I’m going to throw the towel in on any hopes that travel resumes ever.
At this rate we’ll reopen in 2025
That’s the PACT “plan”.
That was the plan.
If people don’t get off their asses and get vaccinated it will be 2025 before we open again.
GET VACCINATED.