Over 19,000 people fully vaccinated
(CNS): Cayman’s vaccination programme continues to inch its way towards government’s target of around 75-80% people receiving both doses of the Pfizer shots to combat COVID-19. According to the latest figures, 29% of the population has now been given both shots, with 30,476 people in total having received at least one shot. Meanwhile, over the last two days just one traveller has tested positive for coronavirus. There are currently 22 active cases of COVID-19 among the 736 people in home isolation and government quarantine, with four people reportedly suffering symptoms of the virus.
Category: Health, Medical Health
Either Vaccines should be mandated for all or the border opening should be scheduled for June 1st, this allows for all those that wish to get vaccinated and protect themselves to have ample time to do so.
We can not allow the filibuster of those not getting vaccinated to hold us hostage.
Talk to Alric Lindsay, he says in his meetings he is not going to have the vaccine.
Selfish..and stupid too.
“It is not selfish to think for oneself. … A red rose is not selfish because it wants to be a red rose. It would be horribly selfish if it wanted all the other flowers in the garden to be both red and roses.” Oscar Wilde
After all we have gone through to make Cayman a safe Covid free place, are you really suggesting an anti Vaxxer should be elected into a position of authority..?…one who will potentially undo everything we have suffered for, due to his ignorance..?
Aren’t you selfish yourself wanting everyone to please you by doing what you want them to do, in this case getting the jab?
Do you want mental and physical weakness to rule the world?
We need stronger, more resilient people, our mental and physical weakening is fairly obvious; as a species we are literally devolving before our very eyes into screeching, whining, completely soft individuals that have no resilience whatsoever.
No problem if people don’t want the vaccine but set a date to open the borders and scrap quarantine – and stick to it
So what, it is his choice, that is what democracy is about. The same democracy that gives you the right to vote for him or not.
I don’t agree in mandating the vaccine but I do agree in setting a date for re-opening. Give at least a month notice. Let everyone know that they should plan to have both doses before that date if they want to be protected.
@ 7:11pm – I agree that this should be a choice. I also support those NOT taking the vaccine being held financially responsible for medical care due to contracting COVID-19 (and potentially spreading it).
Best comment I’ve read for a while on cns
Which one?
Not yours
Government should mandate that all existing and arriving work permit holders must be vaccinated! No renewals without proof. This is the segment of our population that is most anti-vaccine –and holding us hostage! They are basing decisions on –and spreading–fake news on Facebook. And preventing the goal of reaching majority vaccination!
What complete nonsense
BS…
We also cannot allow human rights to be infringed. The vaccine should be a choice not a government mandate.
While I agree we should not infringe on our rights than why did we allow this government to lock us up for months on end in our homes?
No human rights are infringed if it is a requirement placed on those seeking to come in to Cayman. We are well within our rights to set such requirements. Only Caymanians and Permanent Residents have a right to be here.
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Technically correct. Like the countries that require people to prove they are clear of TB before going there for college. Countries can and do set health requirements for incoming persons.
And home owner, Global Citizens, Movie people, Essential business and family members of any resident or work permit holder
Agreed. Too many people still aren’t getting vaccinated. So sad. We have access to the best vaccine. People are out of work. We cannot keep our borders open forever. Can’t see that the current govt will have the courage to open up if lives are at stake!
If government actually wants to increase the number of people fully vaccinated it needs to increase the hours that vaccines are given and adopt a more flexible system the way Gibraltar has. Gibraltar has almost the same population, has been providing vaccines for only a few days more and has 85% of its population fully vaccinated.
Make it more practical for people to get vaccinated!
Population of Gibraltar in 2020 is 33,691.
Fascinating that their government knows how many people are there. Wish ours could do the same for us.
Gibraltar is 3 miles long and 3/4 mile wide with half our population.
I do not understand why some people who post here are trying to scare people out of getting vaccinated against Covid. Is undermining the health of the Cayman public some type of sick game to them?
We are loosing the freedom to disagree
It is sad that we are asking people to get vaccinated and taking away their freedom to disagree. Is it wrong to ask to people to get vaccinated and in doing so save lives and possible avoid infecting someone with a disease that might kill them. I am tired of your I know better than you attitude and you total lack of respect for the lives and health of others. You most likely talk on your cell phone and text while driving without you seat belt on.
Huh? You are saying vaccinate, and don’t vaccinate in the sane post? Everyone should vaccinate. Not to do so is completely selfish and opening the door for variants.
Okay, I hear you, and understand your position. But are you willing to kill innocent people? You are giving those who cannot be vaccinated a death sentence. Grow a pair.
It is certainly not wrong to ask people to get vaccinated but it would be wrong to tell/require that people get vaccinated.
Was it wrong for the government to lock you in your home for 22.5 hours a day?
All signs point to yes!
What about your respect for the lives and health of others? There is a double-mutation variant out there that is very dangerous .. more likely on the way. The more people that are vaccinated, the fewer mutations we are likely to experience in the future.
Losing
Equal to your right to not take the vaccine is my right for freedom of movement. So let’s acknowledge both rights and open up the country after those who want the vaccine have had a chance to get it.
Everyone has had the chance……weeks and weeks of chances! Government needs to set an opening date and stick to it.
You have no Freedom of Movement across most international borders. Stop making shit up.
Is it possible they’ve done more medical research as opposed to following the herd?
The people who actually do medical research in vaccinology are exceedingly unlikely to be found among the tinfoil hat anti-vaxx brigade
A major breakthrough in Covid research was announced by the ISFTAOMI yesterday. It turns out that the anti-vaxxers are correct. Covid does not exist and that the nearly 3 million people reported as dying from Covid are all hanging out with Elvis at a secret hideout in the Rockies. The Covid vaccine is actually a microchip that induces skepticism regarding Fox and Brietbart reports and is therefore to be avoided at all costs. You have been warned.
ISFTAOMI – International Society for the Advancement of Moronic Ideas
Still undecided on whether or not to take the vaccine but judging by this comment section it seems like those who are against are making the more coherent arguments…
Ad Hominem attacks aren’t exactly very convincing.
Really???? – if you know what Ad Hominem means you are probably capable of reading and understanding the facts and the science and in particular the information on the CDC or ECDC or Public Health England websites rather than the pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine rants here.
Exactly what are you afraid of? I’ve had both doses and feel completely fine.
Well whoopee for you
There is absolutely no evidence out there that shows this vaccine is unsafe, harms you, changing your DNA,not effective against Covid or implants a microchip. The antivaxxers have zero evidence of anything. Get the shot.
Seeing as it is a brand new emergency use vaccine there is ZERO way to have evidence regarding long term implications.
My guess is there won’t really be any issues caused by the vaccine but there’s no way to know for sure.
Read vetted medical reports, digest them, understand, and then make a decision on your own, ignoring all advice and claims, including my own
According to the Government website more than 1000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine were given in the past 24 hours. That is pretty good IMHO.
According to CNN’s vaccination monitoring site Gibraltar has fully vaccinated 84.6% of their population and has a further 8% who have had their first shot of the Pfizer vaccine and are waiting for their second. We should be able to achieve the same thing.
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/global-covid-vaccinations/index.html
Rule Britannia.
Meanwhile, Pfizer just announced today that the ‘vaccination’ is only good for six months, after completing the second one.
Actually what was announced was that the Pfizer vaccine provides protection for at least 6 months based on followup studies of large numbers of people 6 months after they received their second doses. Once enough people have been vaccinated for 9 and 12 months and there is further followup we will know that the Pfizer vaccine protects for at least 9 months and then at least 1 year. – see the point?
You are right. Tell me this: If Pfizer could prove it lasted 9 months, don’t you think they’d have said so?
So what is so disingenuous about my comment? They claim for what they can prove, and nothing more. You are letting your personal narrative become your beliefs. Read and learn.
https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/pfizer-says-covid-19-vaccine-protection-lasts-at-least-six-months-protects-against-variants/article_e5150507-fe11-5a3c-b787-ebcbc920eff4.html
You said its ONLY GOOD FOR 6 Months. This is misleading.
They have no data for past 6 months so wait and see but science would say it is going to still be good at 7 months and no doubt even 12.
WOW! WTF is wrong with you?
Not true. They said that after 6 month antibodies are strong and the vaccine remains 91% effective after 6 months. Misleading comment.
1/4 @5:47pm – Pls remember, results from trials on patients are only just about 6 months old now, so Pfizer
(and others) have yet to collect any substantial data.
is your glass always half full?…so do you want be protected for at least 6 months?
another anit-vaxxer who hasn’t got the guts to say what they are…..zzzzzzz
False news..
Read the article… see where it says “AT LEAST 6 MONTHS”? At he very least.
https://apple.news/A4Edo22koT5WC5OB3drGbNQ
At least 6 months! Not just 6 months, AT LEAST 6 months. Studies are showing 2+ years. Jeez, I am so tired of morons, believing Internet bologna. Putting the entire world at risk with stupidity.
If we were dealing with a virus that killed 50% of those infected, fine. mandate vaccine use.
The issue though is that this is not deadly to 99% of the population; and to make matters worse, the data is in and it PROVES that there is no transmission through asymptomatic carriers. So please… remind me what’s the point of a vaccine?
So we can change the survival rate from 99.7 to 99.8%???? Really?
One only need look at the voluntary reports of adverse effect from the vaccines in the US to see that the dangers are a lot more than what is being pushed by mainstream media. https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html – do yourself a favour and actually look at what is being reported, its all there with doctors descriptions treatment etc. 170,000 cases of adverse reactions since 2020 (bear in mind this is voluntary reporting and only in the US so numbers are in reality much much higher.)
The truth of the matter is you’re more likely to be killed in a car accident than covid.
No worries though, with government’s current logic we’ll just ban driving all together and people can walk all over the place. you know, to make it safe for everyone.
what a joke.
I was going to fact check your comments but I quickly discovered that there are no facts in what you wrote. Even the link to HHS does not say what you say it does. Do you have no understanding or do you get off on spreading rubbish?
VAERS data is unreliable as ANYONE can post to it for ANY reason. One person claimed the vaccine turned him into the Incredible Hulk. In addition, its a good thing this virus isn’t very dangerous. However, the more people who get infected at the same time, the more problems it causes. Look at what’s going on in Brazil…
The recent 12 instances of people testing positive on arrival suggests that there may be a need for greater enforcement of the existing regulations. Ideally, the validity of every negative pre-test certificate provided by a person testing positive on arrival should be checked to ensure that the certificate is authentic and that the lab providing the certificates is competent. We should not be accepting pre-test certificates from labs that are incompetent or simply sell the certificates.
Or people who fake their certificates
Ontario’s Canada returns to lockdown Saturday :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/canadas-ontario-to-be-put-under-lockdown-for-28-days-to-tackle-covid-19-spread-101617243252062-amp.html
Canada is one of our prime tourist markets: The open the border town crier among others take note.
And those persons who cannot get to vaccination locations: what is your employer doing to assist? No responsibility here?
Government should be looking for a pattern in these positive results. If there is one lab that is more commonly producing these positives after negatives….investigate and suspend use.
And where is this list of incompetent labs? Go back under your bed.
Bermuda has had more than 100 new cases, most of which are community acquired over the past few days as a result of their relaxation of Covid restrictions. In Bermuda, as in Cayman, ignorance and irrationality are slowing their vaccination rate and leading to serious problems. According to an official press release yesterday:
Kim Wilson, JP, MP, Minister of Health stated, “However, we need to get as many people as possible vaccinated to stop the cycle of infections and re-infections leading to hospitalisations and death.”
https://www.gov.bm/articles/covid-19-daily-release-31-march-2021
Kim Wilson may be an expert but not in covid-19 and neither are you. Therefore, I speak for all when I say, leave us alone to make our own choices, as we do not care what you all have to say considering the public expert information!
Contrary to the views expressed by some here, ignorance is not generally considered a virtue, the earth is not flat, there is no conspiracy controlled by aliens from outer space and the science behind the Covid vaccines we are using is as solid as it gets in biological systems.
Gibraltar has managed to get more than 75% of its population safely vaccinated with the same vaccines we have access to and is beginning to open in a controlled manner. Apart from the antisocial efforts of rabid anti-vaxers and their non-sensical scientifically illiterate diatribes and scare mongering, there is no reason why Cayman cannot reach the same level of vaccination in our population within the next couple of weeks.
That said, I agree with those who advocate for greater flexibility and accessibility that will allow people to receive their vaccines over lunch hours, after work and on weekends. If necessary, there are numerous private sector and retired nurses, physicians and others trained in health care entirely capable of administering vaccines who are not being utilised. Why?
Gibraltar’s “Operation Freedom” used the discounted AZ to get to 75%. We have the premium Pfizer doses, avail to all, and are stuck at around 46%. Different messaging and recipients!
Discounted as in cheap?
It is definitely not discredited if that’s what you mean; the critics have been disgruntled politicians, the AZ vaccine has been endorsed as safe by every relevant scientific body.
Not doing so well in the EU. Bottom line is the US Pfizer jabs are preferred, and that’s what we have.
I think what they mean is that AZ agreed to produce the first year of vaccine at nearly their cost — nearly 1/5 of the cost of the mRNA.
Rubbish – Gibraltar is using Pfizer vaccines supplied by the UK same as Cayman. I am tired on ignorant trolls and anti-vaxxers spreading lies and trying to disrupt the health of the public in Cayman.
https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-releases/arrival-of-covid-19-vaccine-in-gibraltar-302021-6573
Really need extended hours in the clinics for the people who can’t make it during business hours!!
Agreed!
How about: employers should want all their employees to be vaccinated so they don’t miss a month of work, or die, or bury a loved one!?!
I give my employees paid time to get vaccinated, plus the following day off with pay. Yet some still refuse. They are largely the ones that need the vaccine the most. Yet they are swayed by pseudo science, rhetoric and just outright Internet bull.
Saturday?
When will the booster shots be given? The UK is starting them in September.
We are a UK Dependent Overseas Territory, and key Caribbean air bridge…so I’d presume what’s good for the goose will be good for the gander. Right now nobody can say for sure how long the Pfizer doses will provide immunity, since that data set is a work in progress. Those expectations were pleasantly revised just yesterday from 90 days to 6 months.
there is no real plan by cig and i will keep asking the same question:
what happens if the process stall at around 60%?
why have people got the choice not to get a vaccine that is medically and scientifically proven to be our best way out of the pandemic?
its the equivalent of saying people have the choice not to wear masks or be socially distant when required.
we had a police state that prevented us from leaving our homes at one point but now that we have the cure….we are giving people a choice?
New overnight data suggests Pfizer provides immune recognition for at least 6 months, has good coverage for B1-351/B117 variants (which share spike protein traits with P1/P2) safe for use 12 and older, and Pfizer are applying for full FDA approval from limited EUA currently in play, given 596 million people have now had a first dose of some kind. This should help get more people over the fence via science, not stick. Only fascists think it wise to force medical procedures and/or vaccinations.
Fascists, autocrats, totalitarians, charlatans and paranoids..pick your label all of them bad. Some people are resisting the vaccine as protest simply because they fear what we have become more than covid or the vaccine.
Are you a mind reader? People are not “resisting the vaccine as protest” and they do not ” fear”.
Covid immune boosters simply not needed if one is young and healthy. Why mess up perfectly efficient and effective natural immune system?
Who knows what will come after COVID19. My immune system will take care of it. And if I am to die from the next virus, so be it. I’ll take my chances. Besides, many people are immune to COVID 19, but don’t know that.
Covid: The man with ‘super antibodies’
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-56324050
What kind of moron thinks sticking an mRNA gene therapy into your body is the same as wearing a mask? Honestly, dont give any advice if this is the limit of your critical thinking
mRNA gene therapy??? -You really don’t have a clue regarding what gene therapy means or what critical thinking means in relation to vaccinology or public health in general.
Try do some reading. It’s called google. It can be found using the internet -American Society of Gene + Cell Therapy
https://www.asgct.org/research/news/november-2020/covid-19-moderna-nih-vaccine
“Two COVID-19 vaccine trials, both of which use messenger RNA (or mRNA) technology to teach the body to fight the virus, have reported efficacy over 90 percent.
These findings, announced by Moderna on Nov. 16 and by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech on Nov. 9 (with an update on Nov. 18), demonstrate that GENE THERAPY is a viable strategy for developing vaccines to combat COVID-19. Both vaccine candidates use mRNA to program a person’s cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus. The fragment then stimulates the immune system to attack if the real virus tries to invade the body.”
To teach the body to fight the virus?
If you have reached adulthood doesn’t that mean you body knows how to fight harmful pathogens, known and unknown?
Besides, it looks like that you will have to “teach” it every 6 months…
So it is now confirmed – you have no idea of the science you are trying to comment on
6:22 Are you kidding? Everyone has a choice regarding their body and what goes into it. No Government or entity has any right to force a vaccine or anything else on/into someone. There are people who cannot take the vaccine for health reasons; some have severe allergies and others have vaccine sensitivities, etc. People that fall into this category cannot be forced to take a vaccine that can have detrimental effects on their bodies. Those who are well and able to take the vaccine, go for it, but do not sit there trying to say that everyone should be forced to take it. You never know someone’s circumstances.
Got to be a pig headed american commenting about “policing state”. It was CIG’s swift and responsible action why we are able to enjoy life without worry within these borders. We can all celebrate and enjoy Easter this year where many are in or going into lock down for a third time. Just look to our neighbor – Jamacia… they are in lock down again. The third wave has also hit Canada with Province shutting down to try and get a handle on situation. We are lucky and should be grateful.
I am in the US and will be enjoying Easter together with my extended family. We ALL have our vaccinations. We are not locked down. Been working, our restaurants, gyms, schools, etc. are open.
Are there no children under 16 in your extended family?
They don’t need it.
I do and they’ve been in school since August. 🤷🏻♀️ All good. All of their friends and teachers that have had Covid have recovered beautifully!
No, there are not. We do not have young children in my family.
And the virus is circulating in your community. Spot the difference?
I am in the US and will be enjoying Easter together with my extended family. NONE of us is ~vaccinated~. Our elderly did have COVID19, but recovered with no consequences.
We were never in lockdowns.
There is definitely a misconception in Cayman of everyone in the US being locked down and deprived of normal-ish life. Some states definitely still have restrictions but many areas have been business as usual (plus masks) since BEFORE Cayman ended its lock down last year. People can be very careful of Covid and yet still LIVE life including vacations.
Exactly. The perception of the US is something of a medieval plague.
I would add that several states are business as usual and have been for awhile with no mask whatsoever. I never used one unless I had to buy food. I still see plenty of people wearing them – if it makes them feel safer – each to his own. My gym, my church, and my fishing tackle shop never required one even when the state had its “mandate”.
I wear my mask but have been able to mostly go about my business as I see fit. My kids are in school, I’ve gone to movies/school concerts/sporting events, I go to restaurants and travel on airplanes.
Speak for yourself
You would have fit perfectly in nazi Germany in the late 1930s before the war started with that attitude you really think forcing someone to take something they refuse to take is a good suggestion and FYI the vaccine is not a cure
Ppl do realize it’s not just you walking in and picking some thing up ? Paper work has to be filled out, your vaccine card has to be correctly filled out with serial #s. You have to take a shot, then wait ten -15 mins to see if there is any bad reactions. We are doing just fine thanks you.
It will not cure your mental function, that’s for sure.
9:16 It won’t cure your black heart either.
Having had both shots I can tell you that a) the paperwork takes less than 2 minutes b) on neither occasion did the queue take more than 10 – because there were not a lot of people there. Having it open outside working hours would help, as would abandoning the bureaucracy of specifying individual days based on name. Stop being so sensitive to criticism when the goal here is to get everyone that wants a vaccination done. We are doing just fine equates to not getting to that point anytime soon, and by the time we do already having to then have everyone who is already vaccinated get another booster shot – so the goal will no doubt change to 80% vaccinated and having had a booster. It will never end at the current pace.
I was queuing longer to pay for my lunch in Kirk’s today than I was to get my Vaccine.
Well by this person’s logic that means you should stop eating!
Why are they closing the clinic for 1 and a half hours everyday during prime lunchours? Why are they closing early on Saturday? Why are we turning away people based on last name still? This is ridiculous. If I can find the time to get off work and get there and get in line why not allow me to do just that?
It is so infantile that these people can’t think that something is wrong here. This will go on forever.
I still have not been able to get mine because my last name came up during the week and the only time I have off is my lunch time between 12-1pm and I work in East End so it seems like I will never get there. They close at 4pm and I get off work at 5pm. At this rate, covid will be back and spreading in Cayman and I will likely catch it and ie from it.
Come on people, this is ridiculous! There are a lot of people like myself who want the shot and can’t get it because of the stupid hours. Isn’t getting as many shots in arms the objective of this or are we just going to continue to control the people. We were obedient and decent during the lockdown and waited in line at Fosters and we can do the same thing to our vaccinations now.
Why not hire or ask some private nurses and doctors to volunteer during the lunch hours and maybe from 4-8pm in the evenings so that people like me can get the opportunity to get my shots?
Everybody that has gone there says there has been little or no waiting so there has to be some ability for them to do more and better.
We have the vaccines, why not open up the district clinics again and give us the opportunity to get ours done outside of the airport hours.
Gibraltar has more than 75% of their population vaccinated with both vaccine doses. They are starting to open up despite the new variants. It will be interesting to see how their infection rates change over the next couple of months. Hopefully what will happen in Gibraltar will provide useful information that will help us to open safely.
Thousands of people cross the border from Spain to Gibraltar every day to work, I’m not sure you can make a comparison!
Bermuda is now experiencing a serious new wave of Covid infections due to a relation in quarantine requirements. What is happening there shows how cautious we should be.
” a serious new wave”
How any are in the hospital? How many are in ICU?
Or serious means “positive” with mild or no symptoms?
Today, Bermuda gets a slew of “regular life” closures with 60 new positive, brings total active cases to 476, with two in hospital. The “regular life” conditions in Cayman being completely different than those right now in Bermuda and elsewhere. I don’t want to go back to mask-wearing and distancing, just so that DART can reopen his hotels and import permit staff. No thanks.
https://www.royalgazette.com/health/news/article/20210331/sixty-new-covid-19-cases-today/
9:20 stfu, anyone sick with the virus makes it a serious situation. People do not have to be dead, dying, or laid up in the hospital for it to be taken seriously. No one wants to get to that point.
They have 476 active cases (community transmission is happening), mostly from the last week. As of now, 2 are in the hospital & let’s hope they do not get more Covid 19 deaths (to date there have been 12).
Their population & vaccination rates are about the same as ours.
According to their website as of yesterday 476 cases, 2 hospitalisations, one of whom is critical.
2 are in the hospital
Latest information from Bermuda has 3 in critical care & a lot more positives
Now 18 in hospital & 4 in intensive care. Their numbers are getting worse every day with local spread…
I commend our Government for doing a great job with the vaccine roll out. I have gotten both of my shots. And it was very efficient. Could use to have some clipboards and pens, but we all managed and was through the process in under an hour each time.
Now the issue become dealing with the fearful sector of the population. I know way to many people who are hesitant to take the vaccine because of crazy internet conspiracies and just plain lack of education. I think an education campaign could go a long way to helping these individuals see that the vaccine is safe and effective. Bill Gates does not give a snot about you. No one is aborting babies for the vaccine, and RNA is not DNA.
We need everyone to be protected. It is sad that so many choose to forgo protection due to a lack of education, or just a lack of ability to discern which information is valid.
You want me to receive education on vaccines from the same government that educated me on the need for a cruise port???
Stop making the health situation political. This is an apolitical matter. Not the forum for your politicking.
it is politicaal when the government shuts down the borders and locked people inside their homes for months.
8:48 completely agree!
8:48 pm: comparing apples and oranges. False analogy.
For every person you can find who is following crazy internet conspiracies or exhibiting a “lack of education” that doesn’t bring them into line with your opinion on what they should do with their own bodies, I’ll produce you 100 who, like myself, will produce logical reasons for not having the vaccine given the risk/reward profile.
I have read extensively about covid and determined, based on my age and health and the age and health of those that have had issues with or succumbed to the virus, that covid bears virtually no risk to me at all. Meanwhile the reward for having the vaccine is more of the same that we’ve had over the past 12 months regardless of whether or not I’m jabbed. Quarantine, masks on buses, no commercial flights and large gatherings cancelled.
Therefore the unknown risk of the vaccine doesn’t offset the quantifiable rewards on offer to me. The risk/reward profile is different for every individual and you are welcome to come to your own decision, just as I am entitled to mine.
My “selfishness” impacts nobody else who fears covid. If you fear covid then get jabbed. Then you’re protected from conspiracy theorists like me. If the jab doesn’t fully protect you then what was the point in having it?
Calculator time again. If 19,000 people have had both jabs and that represents 29% of the population then the 30,476 that have had at least one jab is barely 46% of the population, or less two thirds of the target rate. The vaccine has been available to all adults for weeks. We won’t get to 75%.
In a real pandemic with a real risk of getting seriously ill across all age ranges and health profiles people would just self isolate, quarantine, wear masks, wash their hands and get vaccinated without the need for months worth of bullying and compulsion from government, pharmaceutical companies, scientists and sky screamers in the community.
If people were that bothered about catching covid they’d be climbing over each other to get into the airport for their shot. The reality is that most people under 50 in rude health don’t care, or at least don’t care enough to want to take the risk. Change the rules so that I can leave and return to cayman without the need to sit at home for a fortnight and I’d begin to give consideration to getting jabbed.
Until then I’m not interested in bearing the risk just to maintain the status quo.
Pastor Alfredo
People like you are the problem
No, people like you are the problem. People who will denounce others who disagree with their opinion as conspiracists or idiots.
If you wish to blindly take an untested vaccine with unknown long term side effects for a disease that has a 99.97% survivability factor for the under 65s then fill your boots.
I will not. And it’s absolutely no business of yours to tell me otherwise.
Pastor Alfredo
Your problem is that you fail to recognise that even though its very unlikely that you die you can still get seriously ill. And the more people that get the virus who refuse to vaccinate allow it to mutate into a strain that that eludes the vaccine. So even though you are right that there is minimal risk to you, your selfish attitude has a detrimental effect on the rest of society.
Right, because making rational arguments are a problem for folks like you. Hence your juvenile response.
Making rational arguments are a problem. I won’t say that your comment is juvenile but it borders on illiterate.
So?
Sentiments that were shared with many deceased Covid victims. Good luck smartypants.
well said
It’s so disappointing…I was waiting for you to tell me what page in the Bible to find the cure.
Actually your selfishness IS impacting others because right now our country’s borders are closed because there are too many people who think and act similarly. Hopefully post-election CIG will make a decision to open the borders after a more realistic percentage of people than they currently require have had both doses.
Wait a second, I should suppress my selfishness for your selfishness?
The problem with your risk/ rewards argument is that it is circular. The reward you want are predicated on enough protection for the public as a whole, because a communicable disease means that individual choices have ramifications for everyone. By refusing to get vaccinated you are preventing the relaxation of the rules that you say prevent you from having the rewards that you want in exchange for your participation. You and those like you are the reason that we still have quarantine and no commercial flights. Now I absolutely believe in civil liberties and agree it’s absolutely your choice not to get vaccinated. But I don’t see why I shouldn’t have those same rewards when I have been and you consciously choose not to. Your choice should not be inflicted on me.
The problem with your argument is Alfredo isn’t inflicting anything on you, the government is and for no logical reason. You’ve more or less acknowledged this in your comment. I noticed you rightfully did not claim Alfredo’s refusal to get vaccinated implied any greater health risks to you and you would be correct.
Well said Pastor Alfredo!
Could you please use the same rational logic to prove the existence of God?
Sure. I had a short walk along the beach this morning. The waves were lapping on the shore and the birds were singing in the trees. In the distance there was a faint suggestion of a child laughing, carried on the warm breeze as the sun shone.
That’s God, that is. Fact.
Pastor Alfredo
Pasyor Alfredo: your long epistle is not worth the Internet space/time. I hope this is not what you are preaching in your church. God help the brethren.
Funny, I never used the word ‘selfish’ in my post. But you honed in on that concept. Hmmm. I used ‘fearful’. And many people are fearful. Education and inform based on science and logic gives people an opportunity to decide what is accurate.
Oh god not this clown again.
You mean you commend the uk for giving us shots so a 20 year old caymanian can get one 6 months before a 40 year old Brit. We are so lucky, is brilliant, but be grateful
So the Brit in Cayman should get the Jab before a Caymanian that wants it? But I thought it was only Caymanians that had that entitlement mentality. If you don’t like it, go back to the UK!
Dear homo-pertificus, we are not fearful or hesitant and we hold advanced degrees and able to separate the wheat the from chaff. So MYOB.
How timid so many people have become as a result of a virus that has LESS than a 1 percent fatality rate among those who are under the age of 65, and how it has paralyzed an otherwise productive society. At no time in the past would we have been this crippled by something that is a mild threat.
You have obviously not heard of long covid.
Yes, Annie, it just annoys me that people allow ignorance to keep them from the only real answer we now have to the spread of this virus.
Stop watching Fox propaganda and get vaccinated.
And the same goes to the guy who keeps making the nonsensical “open-the-borders” cry. I thought that it was well understood by now why a wholesale opening of the borders would pose threats to everyone here, individuals and institutions.
Open The Border, I say as well!
9:24 you are just another idiot
9:24 you are just another idiot
What Fox propaganda? As many lefties avoiding the vaccine as anyone.
I watch many news sources. At least four per day, I don’t really see any as anti-vac on any of them. Fox is definitely anti-mask, and anti lock-down, but not anti-vac.. They actually run PSA’s urging viewers to go get vaccinated. Although I think it is stupid not to mask up, and stupid to have a spring break free for all in Florida. I also think it is stupid to allow boarder migrants with the virus to be housed in tight quarters. So basically I think the representatives, both Republicans and Democrats in the States are self serving idiots.
The apparent shame game, and suggestions of lack of education, now being played out against those reluctant to take the vaccine is totally unhelpful.There are still many unanswered questions regarding the vaccine. Well educated people are asking these questions and, yes, are well aware that RNA is not DNA. They also understand what mRNA is and how a synthetic form is being used in the vaccine. Sensible, well educated people, do not suffer from “sheep follow-along mentality” but instead do their own scientific and medically based research. They steer clear of conspiracy theories around arguments for and against but ask intelligent questions and expect intelligent answers. Unfortunately, the latter is often lacking. For example it still is not known how long protection gained from the vaccine will last. It is also not yet known what the long term side effects of this new type of vaccine might be. This is all new territory and, yes, for some segments of society there remains more questions than answers. In a small effort to provide better understanding of mRNA and DNA, and the function of mRNA, here is a link that provides helpful information: https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/messenger-rna
“ Messenger RNA (mRNA) is a single-stranded RNA molecule that is complementary to one of the DNA strands of a gene. The mRNA is an RNA version of the gene that leaves the cell nucleus and moves to the cytoplasm where proteins are made. During protein synthesis, an organelle called a ribosome moves along the mRNA, reads its base sequence, and uses the genetic code to translate each three-base triplet, or codon, into its corresponding amino acid.
Messenger RNAs, also known as mRNA, are one of the types of RNA that are found in the cell. This particular one, like most RNAs, are made in the nucleus and then exported to the cytoplasm where the translation machinery, the machinery that actually makes proteins, binds to these mRNA molecules and reads the code on the mRNA to make a specific protein. So in general, one gene, the DNA for one gene, can be transcribed into an mRNA molecule that will end up making one specific protein.”
Those who suggest lack of education can’t read large comments. They only fall for sound bites.
We, the “fearful and hesitant” read large articles written in scientific journals; we do know that vaccines are pushing pathogens to evolve; we do know that innate immune system is trillion times more sophisticated than man made immune boosters; we don’t want to affect health of unborn children.
And the 💡KEY point is that COVID jabs are being administered under Emergency Use Authorization!
Simply put that means: WE WARN YOU THAT WE DON’T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE BOOSTERS, THEREFORE YOU ARE VOLUNTARILY ASSUMING ALL RISKS THAT COME WITH INOCULATIONS.
If 1-2 years later you develop CFS, Fibromialgia, narcolepsy, neurological, autoimmune, autonomic diseases and conditions, THERE WOULD BE NO RECOURSE, for you were WARNED!
“vaccines are pushing pathogens to evolve”
Evolution 101 total fail.
If you actually understood what you just parroted, you’d go get your vaccine. 560mln doses in arms already with just a few dozen contraindications to date. Immune protection lasting at least 6 months, and counting. Approval being sought for full FDA use in all those eligible, aged 12 and above. Or, you are free to continue to wait for more data that continues to buttress how wrong you are, while rolling the dice with your own body, and families. To me, that’s a dumber wager.
Also known as gene therapy, not gene editing. This is not a Vaccine.
So where did you go to get tested to make sure you weren’t allergic to PEG? Or did you just go to get the jab and hope for the best? Genuinely interested in what actual research people did before taking these jabs.
Have you had any other vaccines? Did you carry out similar levels of “research” prior to having those, or is it just this one where you have decided you can’t trust scientists?
You can get vaccinated 32 hours a week, but a sandwich 168 hours a week.
Subway is 528% more efficient than this vaccination program.
If they were serious about this thing they would have it open when people were able to go like…sayyyyy….
….LUNCH TIMES AND WEEKENDS?
To be fair, there’s probably less chemicals in the vaccine than a footlong.
If your company won’t allow you a day to get the vaccine you need to change companies
If you think you need a whole day off to get vaccinated I think your current employer would agree with you about working for someone else.
A day?! Seriously?
I agree that the govt could undertake to accommodate hourly workers who are not available 9 to 5, but can workers and employers not take on this challenge and find a way? After all, it is to employers’ benefit to have their workers vaccinated.
I believe that if employers called the CEO at the hospital they could arrange something–bring the vaccine to work sites? offices?
And where this is not possible, get your boss to negotiate a time for you and others?
As Biden would say, this is all malarkey. Come on, man. Do your part.
Some Darwinian proof studies can’t make the mental leap that: acquiring the virus wound be a lot more health and time hassle, than finding a few minutes’ time to pre-emptively collect a free vaccination dose. Talk to your boss (who would want you to keep working for them).
Open the borders!
No borders, no vote
What a silly comment
5:41 — quit–silling. If government had opened the borders and we were overcome with cases and quarantine requirements , you would be the first to holler.
The question is — are you vaccinated? That is what it will take the open the borders — here and in the US and UK were our tourists come from.
US Borders are open…All the US tourists are traveling all over the Caribbean.
With 7 mile beach gone how will we get them back anyway?
9:27 and look at the state of their country. We do not want that for these islands and we are certainly less inclined to deal with Americans and their BS.
Cayman and UK don’t have open borders but the US is open. This should be obvious given the number of “repatriation” flights from Miami.
If people put as much effort into getting their firend and family to get vaccinated as they did complaining we probably could.
Agreed….the government needs to give a date now and stick to it!
Slower than molasses. We’re never gonna be free again.😔
Hopefully, the day after elections (once alliance wrangling is done), we get a definite opening date. 🤞
We’re the fourth highest vaccinated population on the planet.
I agree that our % vaccinated is impressive but we’re not anywhere close to the 80% the government keeps claiming is the magic number. We started out so strong but now we’re barely adding numbers to our vaccinated.
You read Dr Lees comment to the Compass re infection rates in Bermuda, where they has the same proportion of vaccinations as us but no quarantine? Structuring our expectations bobo – he is never goimg to agree to open the border till we get to 80%.
It appears that only 1 Bermuda person is hospitalized.
If the others are mild enough that people can recover at home, wouldn’t that demonstrate the positive impact of the vaccine?
It’s sounding similar to the common flu.
With those risk levels we could reconsider how restrictive we want to be.
Gibraltar? Hmm… At least compare to the Caribbean region counties/islands with similar climate, weather, topography, sun exposure, genetic make up of its residents, lifestyle, regional cuisine, etc.
Yeah, one isn’t scary enough, let make it 3, and say they are on ventilators..