Freemasons claim discrimination
(CNS): Freemasons in the UK are claiming that their members are “undeservedly stigmatised” and are calling for an end to the discrimination they suffer. The BBC and other media outlets in the UK report that the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE) has placed full-page advertisements in several national newspapers and has written to the Equality and Human Rights Commission about the allegations the organisation faces that it has undue influence over police and politicians. The advert complains of the “gross misrepresentation” of its members.
Headed “Enough is enough”, the English Freemasons claim in the advert that they raised £33m for good causes last year, adding that people of any race, faith, age, class or political persuasion were welcome in the 300-year-old organisation — though the United Grand Lodge of England is restricted to men, with separate women-only lodges.
The outgoing chairman of the Police Federation of England and Wales, Steve White, recently told the BBC that the Freemasons were blocking reform in policing and thwarting the progress of women and those from black and ethnic backgrounds. However, the chief executive of the Freemasons in England, Dr David Staples, rejected those claims as “laughable”.
There are believed to be a number of masons in Cayman who are also politicians, police officers and business leaders. According to the website they meet at the Freemasons’ Hall on Mahogany Way in Prospect on Grand Cayman on the third Friday of the month and the second Friday in Cayman Brac. There is both a website and Facebook page but neither gives much insight into Cayman’s membership or what it does.
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I am a visiting to the islands. And I am a Freemason, high level too.
I can vouch the following:
A Freemason swears on the book he believes in (bible or whatever other religious book it is) that he will not break any civil laws in the country he is in.
And if he breaks this obligation, he is kicked out of the organization and not protected by it in anyway.
I am not sure what murder you are referring to, or who that person is, but if a mason is known to be a murderer or any other criminal act is proven on him, he MUST be kicked out and denounced as a brother void of all moral worth.
The above is 100% true. We do believe in God and fear God, and there is nothing sinsester in freemasonry.
In Jamaica Freemasonry is dead serious business. There is at least one judge on the Court of Appeal here who is part of the Jamaica and Cayman lodge and appears online in his Freemasonry garb without shame.They consolidate their power which is very real. People are right to fear and deride them. They have a great deal of power here.
Their power is limited. I fear the Lord, not men.
Becareful 11:21am you are threading on very thin ice and you might slip down and fall and the MIB’s will get you trust me bro. Dissension is not tolerated no matter who it is.
Note I said he has not been “arrested”, not that he is not known. The Police know who he is and because he is a Lodge member is why he hasn’t been arrested. No need for me to report him, they already know!
My point is, Lodge members can get away with anything in Cayman, without penalty. But they can’t hide from Jah justice!
hha ha ha….jokers dressed up in sheep clothing! ?? come on guys. be a man…steer your own ship….
How can man steer his own, is it not God?
Higher level free masons deceive lower level free masons.
All free masons deceive non-free masons.
We have more important matters to address, the blatant discrimination of the LGBT people is our focus instead of your sissy tree club fiasco.
What about the blatant disregard to the natives of this island you worry about your pleasured rights we worry about our life rights get it na I didn’t think so
08.30 please drink coffee before writing on here…obviously a case of the Monday morning grumps…
I am assuming you haven’t seen caymanians suffering down in the slums or you have no regard for us.
Didn’t my people before me slave for this country then you look at me with a scorn I can’t afford coffee and if I did I wouldn’t purchase it
She / he doesn’t see natives suffering from her / his ivory tower in a gated community.
These people don’t care about the natives from their own Countries, what on Earth makes you think they came here to care about you or I?
Personally, I don’t care if they do or not. I don’t hold them accountable for their lack of emotions or empathy for man-kind in general. They love their animals / pets more than people. LOL that’s enough for you to understand their mentality.
Ask the Freemasons who struck and killed the man on Hirst Road in 2016 and still hasn’t been arrested!
Do you know who it was ? Maybe you should report the crime
Simple! He wasn’t a Freemason. Get your facts right, please.
To know that 8.25, you would have to be one, and then due to the secretive nature of the Lodge you could not be believed anyway. Bit of a conundrum?
Everyone knows when everyone is taking a piss in this island nothing is hidden
Hahahaha, if you ever join you will LEARN how uninformed you all are. No one has any immunity from the law. If you see or hear someone got away with something. He may have a friend but nothing to do with any service club.
Of course not. Not automatically. It’s about who you know it’s kind of like the rest of the world and the way it works. But when there is a club of executives and govt. hire ups in it that can pull those strings the possibilities are endless if you’re their friend. Of course they wouldn’t advertise it as a type of shield for people who are in the club. But you know damn well these ppl get off because of who they know and who’s a$$ they kiss they kiss the best. Which they can do so because they are in that club. Otherwise they wouldn’t have a connection with those types. Just another one of those exclusive benefits I guess.
this is the secret:
masons are allowed to lie for any reason (even under oath) to protect fellow members.
The same can be said about the police force. This is why internal investigations are breathing down their necks.
nope…it is not a written law of the police force that you can lie to protect other members
In Cayman Freemasonry is probably just a bunch of guys hanging out into a lodge likely oblivious to what it’s really about in the higher ranks. Unfortunately there’s more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKsn7ygDnx4
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/who-is-john-salza/#.WoB_sainHD4
Yes and the majority of people is brain washed into thinking this is a way of life it’s 2018 and the people are finding out exactly what is happening now is the time for us to stand up and have our own back because we are not protected by the police nor by the government!
Myth Buster
A secret organization with numerous web pages. Hmmm?
An organization that does not publish its membership list. Hmmm.. Been trying to find a published list of Lions, Rotary, Kiwanis members. Let me know if you do.
An organization who’s members wield influence at the highest levels of society. Hmmmm… the service clubs above probably have more influencial members in them than the Masons do.
The Lodge. The Lodge is where they meet, not who they are. There are several fraternies in existence. However the two most commonly referred to as “The Lodge” are The Mechanics and The Freemasons. Two separate groups who’s membership do not interchange.
They can do anything and get away with it. There are many ex brothers who thought the same thing until they tried and were expelled
Cool story bro
I don’t support many things that happen in the UK but when can we start that program to diminish these good old boys control and corrupt influence of this island. Too many have top positions in Government and statutory boards and the like. too many decisions and contract awards to their affiliates and members. The Law enforcement arm is inundated by this bunch and most civil judgements issued wreaks of their disgusting influence.
These good ol’ boys represent a much larger, powerful hand at play.
Do not be fooled, do not be blind to the powers that be.
Freemasonry. The mafia of the mediocre.
Suck it up and man up. They think they are so special enough to claim discrimination when they control monopolies and have both hands and fingers in the pot. Most likely they also control less than legal activities and are protected from the law whilst doing it. Bunch of self serving Ahole$. Worried that the masses are turning against you? Well you should be, as times is a changing bros.
Spoken from true ignorance! This is why you can’t join Lodge, they don’t let idiots in
emmmm I think you will find they do!
That’s why we should start our own and stand for our own we need a start let’s start from now!
Many years ago, a former master of the lodge in Cayman, and I have known many of them, once said “We run Cayman.” That gave me cause for concern at the time.Food for thought.
Do please enlighten yourself:- http://www.freemasonrybahamas.net/secret_society.htm
And also educate by: http://www.shrinersinternational.org/Shriners/Experience
“There is none so blind as those who do not want to see”, or for that matter appreciate real facts. Cayman is loaded with uninformed speculation based upon innuendo and fake rumors not limited to the present topic. When a couple of people interpret what they want from any given situation, others of no real knowledge jump in and create mischief. This then creates a new twist and the saga goes on. What a mess our people can make of any situation real crabs in the barrel. Alas the mentality continues despite economic progress attitudes prevail.
We don’t think so hunny, we know so, we see it for ourselves, with our eyeballs!
How do I join?
All you have to do is ask a mason to join.
It is a lot more to do than merely “ask” to join.
It is essential to ask.
Find an unimpressive friend who seems to have achieved beyond their talent. They should get you in.
Wow, the lodge in Cayman must be huge.
So funny how so many people don’t know anything about freemasonry and make such bizzare statements about it! Its a secret society! The point is for only masons to know what goes on in lodge.
As a young Caymanian that was locked up because 3 or more of us was hanging out together because the majority of us are all family they locked us up but they can hang out together and the police protect them how is it fair
Locked up for hanging around together? Yeh, right. ” I did nuffink, honest guv”
As a youth
Do the time, stop bitching, carry on.
Simple bro their members are fully protected and have immunity from the law you don’t ya big dummy
Why were you locked up bro?
Were you arrested for criminal poor literacy?
We was arrested for being a Caymanian not in the lodge that’s why because they are afraid of the masses coming together that’s how a revolution start bro
They are nothing but a bunch of old drunks that get together to tell lies and fart .
That sound like a bar flex
Sounds like gentle fun compared to gangster killings that litter the island
They created us they schooled us
The first secret they taught me was how to fart without making a sound, and that’s no lie.
I’m from the UK and some years ago our local police force issued a statement to the effect that none of their senior officers were involved in freemasonry. A few weeks later the local press published photographs of two senior officers leaving a masonic event in the company of convicted criminals who were involved in drugs and prostitution. Until they sort that out freemasons are, in my opinion, fair game. As the old saying goes, ‘Methinks thou dost protest too much.’
They won’t admit it but everyone in the community know who they are and what they are doing we have no one to report them to they don’t get prosecuted they get away free so who do we turn to
I think we should have a protest. Let’s get them out
Can you publish a link to that story in your local press?
Unlikely.
So… convicted criminals walk around just like that here
Boohoo! Poor Freemasons! They should try being a black transgender midget!
Or gay of any size or colour.
ROFL
So the Lodge feels badly treated, and stigmatized? What do you expect from an organization that is completely secret, shut to women and does not tell anyone what it does? Its an abomination, that is what it is. Anyone with nothing to hide can be transparent, no need for secrecy…so the tales of favour and work are most likely true…why hide if they were not?
They had an open day recently and it was AMAZING. they had pancakes and bacon. I’d love to join one day
Cut and Paste from a previous post on the other article noted above;
Anonymous says:
21/03/2016 at 10:00 am
“We take good men and make them better” WOW! Well, if this is a precept of the local Masonic Lodge, they have seriously failed with a number of their members. I know at least a few persons who are Lodge members and who are of the lowest moral character – sleazy, corrupt, underhanded, dishonest, etc. “A peculiar system of morality” indeed!!
I don’t know the requirements for Masonic Lodge membership worldwide, but most members in Cayman join just to be protected and benefit from the favours afforded to members and the nepotism involved. What does that say about the moral character of such persons??!! Why does one need such “membership” benefits? Sleazy low-life’s!!
I’m a rebel, soul rebel, I’m a conqueror
Burn babel, burn.
Doesn’t the lodge doctrine encompass significant discrimination including preferential treatment and priority in business and all other activities for other lodge members?
It does indeed
No it doesn’t
What is wrong with supporting one another?
Support all not some
That’s exactly how my boys and I are and we don’t have to ride goates for that. We par and drink. Freemasonry is foolishness
That’s why when your family is in the lodge in Cayman you get treated differently you get pampered you get off on every criminal charge but we are rebels they prosecute us daily because we are the Christ and we are ok with that we have it in our DNA and our father will deliver us from unna
Oh hush. They are more christian than u
And this is coming from someone who believe a man will come from the sky and save us all that’s as bad as a man riding around the earth on flying reindeers.
Until you accept that these churches are just buildings collect your money giving you a fantasy story then you can consider yourself far gone.
One day, you will stand before the Living God. Choose your words carefully, as should we all.
I am a caymanian, always tageted by the free masons always watched by them and I’m here to tell them I will not bow down to them or their system
Me either.
#UnitedWeStandDividedWeFall
Yes I
There are 7000 gods who haven’t bow a knee to ba’al
True, and counting.
Tell us why the freemasons would target you and always watch you,what are you involved in? You sound as suspect as they are claimed to be.
They better watch their children and stop watch JAH CHILDREN
Who is Jah? Is he a Mason as well?
Check your bible and history. A respected man of the cloth here once told me that Jesus was thought to be a Freemason.
Boaz, Hiram Abif and many others were as well, freemasonry starting as a sort of labour Union, there really isn’t mich mystery there, they just continued their group as masons and it evolved into what we see today. Quite boring if you ask me.
Boaz and Jachin are the names of the two bronze pillars that were on the porch of the temple of Solomon at the top of the winding stair. All are masonic symbols.
We know who God is and prefer to stick to what we know what our fathers know instead of the brain wash that’s why they don’t like us and we know who they are we know what they are doing
Let’s protest
When and where
We will rebel against your laws since we have no rights
Lodge control the politicians, judiciary, the civil service e.g. Franz Manderson Eric Bush are high ranking public officials and every big decision in Cayman. They always have they are the dark hand of power and have an unhealthy influence over government policies and decisions. Cabinet members Alden McLaughlin, Roy McTaggart, Moses Kirkonnell, Joey Hew are all members as are many members of statutory boards including political appointees.
You probably also see ghosts everywhere you look as well. Anyone that spouts this lodge crap is willfully ignorant.
I would suggest that you are willfully trying to discredit the poster because you are threatened by the truth.
Don’t forget Wayne Panton and Sam Bulgin
There must be some sort of contagious mass paranoia going on here, you are all losing the plot, calm down and stop talking utter crap.
Freemasons worst enemies are themselves
Also Chief Justice Anthony Smellie. Do not forget the many current and former judges are members plus numerous MLA’s and Exco members of years gone by like Linford Pierson, Tom Jefferson, Jim Bodden
Much todo about nothing. Small things amuses small minds.
Ignorance. Im fine with the lodge in cayman. They dont watch me or persecute me. They are just a gathering of wealthy and successful men who share ideology and look out for each other. (Of course having lodge brothers in positions of power can be of huge benefits to an individual)
They are not satanic or evil, read a book and not conspiracy theories on google. You probably see duppies all the time aswell and you are probably that one person out of the group who really saw the may cow and bloody mary
I don’t know about the wealthy part if you mean money, I’m a member and I’m as broke as the Ten Commandments. I do get a lot out of Lodge but it’s not material it’s discipline, love for fellow man, high morality and patience. I know there are bad Lodge members just the same as in church or even government, you get out of it what you bring. It’s that simple
Sure it is.
You are probably in the other lodge. The broke one? there are two local lodges ?
Think about this, if a group of interested individuals wanted to keep the status quo of a business for financial gain what better way to control it than with a network of their own members. A prime example might be to appoint a high ranking member in a regulatory body who is sympathetic to the cause of keeping the status quo of a monopoly where a majority are members too. Speak up and speak now, what do you think is ethically wrong with this example and which monopoly and regulatory body fits the example?