No let up in gun crime as more property shot up

| 16/02/2024 | 69 Comments

(CNS): Police are investigating more cases of guns being fired after a house and a vehicle in Birch Tree Hill, West Bay, were shot up on Ash Wednesday. The coastguard also found a number of spent shell casings along the shore of North Sound Estates after another report of guns being fired on Wednesday morning. Meanwhile, officers have also recovered a car in West Bay that they believe is connected to shots that were fired at a building in George Town early Monday morning, as the spike in gun violence continues.

The RCIPS Firearms Response Unit was called to Birch Tree Hill at around 4:30am Wednesday after a report of guns being fired. While no injuries have been reported, they found several spent casings as well as damage to a house and a vehicle. A crime scene was established, and officers remained in the district, making checks and providing community reassurance.

Then, around 11:00am on Wednesday, there was yet another report of shots being fired, this time around Duck Pond dock in the North Sound Estates. The RCIPS enlisted the help of Cayman Islands Coast Guard officers to carry out a search along the coastline at Leeward Drive. During the search, the coastguard recovered a number of spent shell casings, which were handed over to the police for forensic processing.

On Tuesday, prior to these two incidents, officers investigating the shooting at a property in George Town seized a vehicle in West Bay that they believe was connected to that incident. The RCIPS did not say exactly where it was found, but it was tracked down at a residence in the district with the help of the police helicopter, which was also deployed to help with further investigations.

The RCIPS say they have increased the presence of officers in the areas affected by gun-related crime.

Anyone with information about the gun violence is urged to call the West Bay Police Station on 949-3999. Anonymous tips can be provided to the RCIPS Confidential Tip Line at 949-7777 or the website. Tips can also be submitted anonymously to caymancrimestoppers.com.


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  1. For the love of… says:

    Fix the damn dump.

  2. Baya that hates guns. says:

    The only good thing about this is maybe now I will be able to afford a 1 bed home in the district I’m from, WB.

  3. Cayman Ultra says:

    Simply put the Jamaicanization of Cayman clearly needs to stop and if the UK Representative is unable or unwilling to do so We need to find someone who can.This cannot be done by our so called political leaders who do not even know who are confused or so ignorant they do not know who they are. If any of you doubt what I am saying in this post look no further than our minister of Immigration , Border Control and culture current look he like other are not part of the problem they are the problem.

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  4. Anonymous says:

    Where are all the posters who were gushing over the new CoP now? It actually seems to be getting worse.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Perhaps our dishonorable Minister could give the new Chief some “leads” relating to his former business connections…you know, like suppliers distributors money men behind the trade..?
      Surely it is now his civic duty to help fight crime.

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    • Anonymous says:

      The people thumbing this down are in denial. It wasn’t this bad with the former COP.

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      • Anonymous says:

        As most said when he was appointed, he was absolutely set up for failure. He was handed the keys to the kingdom during one of the biggest crime spikes the islands have ever seen, and put in charge of a squad full of corrupt immigrants (who many of which “allegedly” 🙄 have close ties to the criminals) that resent him being in that position.

        There is no one person who could come in and, as if flicking a switch, could instantly rectify the situation in Cayman. Not even the very best Cayman has to offer, nor America, nor Canada, nor England, nor Singapore. This takes time, and people like you harping on about how things were better for “deez tree islands” when we had an incompetent immigrant at the head of the police force are either completely ignorant to the realities of the situation, or are being intentionally obtuse for the purpose of trying (and failing) to make a Caymanian look bad. Byrne had 6 years, and during that time *EVERYTHING* got worse. You won’t even give Walton 6 months before trying to tear him down.

        Remember, you’ve already got direct rule back home, and just look at the shit show over there.

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      • Anonymous says:

        The one that had a full island lockdown to help virtually eliminate crime, therefore padding statistics to make it look as though crime was actually reduced during his tenure? The one that, under his regime, took the RCIPS so low that people literally stopped reporting crime due to the obvious corruption? There was a key witness assassination right next to the governor’s house during his time here. Were you aware of that?

        It is certainly no better now under the new guy, but it is hard to agree that it is worse, and almost certainly not for any reason outside of continued import of poverty to work for unlivable wages. The new CoP has been fighting a Sisyphean uphill battle since day one.

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  5. Anonymous says:

    My neighbor was being harassed and had called the police several times because of the time of the harassment and the disturbance it was causing and the police knew where this person lived and worked but gave me the excuse when i finally called and reported the person myself, cause i was tired of hearing him banging down my neighbors door at 3am, they gave me the excuse that when they went to look for him he wasn’t there so he had not been warned. So they knew where he worked and lived but couldn’t find him. This is the type of effort and protection the people of Cayman are receiving. How do we expect them to find out who these people are that are firing weapons with no further information. I’d say this is a cold case.

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  6. Cayman’s Jamaican problem says:

    We all know the problem here with this gun and gang violence but not one of useless political leadership will speak about what needs to be done. There simply too many Jamaicans running everything in this place and this is not a coincidence that we now are experiencing a similar level of crime and violence here. They have exported it from there to here their complicity is evident in arming our criminals with guns to spread this violence as they have done throughout the entire Caribbean. They should not be making any national policy nor strategic decisions for Cayman.Immigration policies and government hiring need to be curtailed to address this situation. This will continue to spiral out of control if we keep being influence by those who’s violent and criminal ideology is part of their history and culture and political circumstances.

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    • Anonymous says:

      I really hate it that I gave you a thumbs up, but it’s true. The criminals will always be able to acquire guns. Why can’t the law-abiding citizens at least have stun-guns and pepper spray? Just to be able to stand our ground?

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    • Anonymous says:

      Well said 8.49… but we keep importing and employing them .
      Like smoking, we know it’s gonna kill you, but we keep lighting up.
      Cold Turkey , stop importing, stop employing .

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    • Anonymous says:

      Mac Seymour Saunders Kenneth depend on them to maintain their overpaid lifestyle of newfound wealth and power.
      To hell with the Cayman that they’re supposed to nurture and protect.

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  7. Anonymous says:

    the simple fact is the RCIP is not prepared to handle this level of violence. they are too ridled with corruption and incompetents to adequately police this sort of violent crime.

    the criminals know this and they are exploiting this.

    we need to petition the UK deploy a substitute force and rebuild the RCIP from the ground up.

    all officers currently serving need to be made to re-aply for Thier position with deep background checks coupled with fresh training regimes focused on community policing and fostering better relationship with the communities they work in.

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    • A concerned Caymanian says:

      This is exactly what needs to happen !!!

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    • Anonymous says:

      It’s a fairly simple problem that exists. How can you effectively police when the criminals live next door to you?

      In other countries police RARELY, if ever, live in the same communities they police for obvious reasons, hell, TEACHERS barely live in communities they teach for the same reasons.

      We need a rotating police force from outside that live in their own community on 5 year terms to get rid of both the conflict of interest that exists but also the inherent fear of consequences that policing entails.

      But we can’t have that, because it’s colonialist and a bad look for the UK.

      This isn’t even a problem specific to Cayman. Look at small towns in the US for example. Exact same problem exists where crime is tolerated due to proximity to the criminals.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Small towns in America! You crazy, men is real man in small town America, try some stuff like that in a small town you going to find out right quick what time it is…That’s the home of the free and the brave, unless the crime your talking about is domestic, drugs or addiction kinda pushed aside.

  8. Anonymous says:

    It’s now obvious this strategic reform implementation hocus pocus foolishness is not working and we need to stop listening to those living in lalalala land about this criminal situation as one poster said those who are the cause of the problem cannot fix or resolve it now and need to be remove from the equation their complete cockup and inept or corrupt behaviour has unfortunately had deadly consequences and we need to stop rewarding failure.

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  9. Anonymous says:

    Jamacia and Honduras crime and murder capitals of the world! What would you expect from your neighbors.

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  10. Anonymous says:

    What happen to DCR scam programs designed to impeded law enforcement and encourage criminality amongst the hoard

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  11. Anonymous says:

    Anyone else notice that there are hardly any bank branches or ATM machines anymore? Even in the hotel tourism zone. Are tourists expected to arrive with wads of cash now?

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  12. Anonymous says:

    1. Imported poverty.
    2. No border control.
    3. Slack laws.

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    • Cayman tings says:

      Equals this mess we have now …
      What is been done ??

      It’s a election year coming up

      Vote change !

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  13. Anonymous says:

    How on earth on a 2×4 island with police helicopters a coast guard unit and more cops per capita than almost anywhere else can guns keep reaching our shores?

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    • Anonymous says:

      I hear you. I was a LEO in the past. Know this: Criminals can ALWAYS get guns and whatever else they need. Anywhere they are. The law-abiding citizen go along with whatever the laws dictate. The criminals rejoice when we cannot acquire any self-defence mechanisms.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Nonsense. You were a law enforcement officer in the USA, no doubt, which is different to pretty much every other country on the planet.

        There’s plenty of guns here, no doubt, but the mechanisms for dealing with this are not in arming every half-wit on the street.

        Judicial policies, effective policing, community engagement, and youth outreach will all succeed where the arms race fails. The problem we have is in those areas.

        I live here, but don’t feel particularly at risk. I do fear the atrocious driving, but that’s another story.

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  14. Anonymous says:

    After the recent court ruling, I am pretty sure you can walk into a police station with a gun, and claim it’s not under your control, and just happens to be in your possession.

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  15. Anonymous says:

    I guess not many perused Mr Walton’s advise offered at the press briefing last week. 👮🏼

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  16. Anonymous says:

    This place is gone… We’re past the point of no return, the best days for this island are well behind us. Sorry to sound so grim but the future is bleak. I’m not a pessimist I’m a realist.

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  17. Anonymous says:

    This is what happens when you deny young Caymanian men good opportunities.

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    • Anonymous says:

      How has anyone been “denied” good opportunities? We all got the opportunity to attend a free school and apply ourselves. Some did some didn’t. Some families encouraged and some didn’t. Some used their education to the best of their abilities and some didn’t.
      Many/most do not resort to violence. As a Caymanian male we all have access to opportunities if we just apply ourselves in an honest, law abiding way.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Deny..?
      You mean like free schooling..?
      Preferred treatment in job applications..?

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      • Anonymous says:

        Go to school, study, apply yourselves, set good standards for yourselves and others, pass your exams, go get a government scholarship., get training or a degree in what you are best at doing and “each one reach one” the only one denying you is you !

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    • Anonymous says:

      Young Caymanians have a much better opportunity via familial ties, and the rightness of things, to get a government job. Those jobs are the best of what most of us can achieve. Those that don’t step up, it is upon them. CIG employees have the best health care, best benefits, best retirement. It’s the way it should be, but never say that young Caymanians, men and women are denied good opportunities; even those without ambition or drive can get on SOMEwhere.

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    • Kman says:

      Yes, that’s the logic of always blaming someone for our problems. The vast majority of Caymanians were born with far more opportunities in life than most people ever have, so please stop blaming others for their failures. This gangster culture that we’ve imported has now form a ugly part of our society needs to be eradicated. However, too many of our politicians are useless and believe in making our people 3rd world citizens and those that vote for them are to blame.

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      • Anonymous says:

        I remember when so many of us were living below the poverty line. During my primary school days I had breakfast ( usually porridge, bread and tea, there was no lunch for some of us to go home to so we read poetry, played games, or just hang out until the bell rang. Went back in classes until 3:00 then go home for our afternoon dinner. Life was certainly no bed of roses but we were all well behaved. There was no free lunch! “No pun intended ” I am now a senior, all of my children are well educated and the grand children are doing well. There is no valid excuse not to do well.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Your comment says a lot… Blame others why some have chosen to be criminals. No self respect, no sense of responsibility; and those like you who ignore self determination vs “Oh, I wasn’t given a chance to be a decent human being and citizen of Cayman.”

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    • Anonymous says:

      We all have the opportunity to be honest and kind. Being a crook is either a conscious choice, or faulty wiring.

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    • Anonymous says:

      https://caymannewsservice.com/2024/02/local-procurement-manager-promoted-to-deputy-director/

      Read this article. He is a generational Caymanian. He’s not a paper Caymanian. He took advantage of the offers given to him and succeeded just as my sons and other successful young Caymanians have done. Blame the parents who tell their children that they are entitled without working for it. Instant gratification.

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  18. Some guy with odd shoes says:

    We have become complacent, telling ourselves that the RCIPS are responsible and not doing their jobs, or that they are corrupt and intentionally allow this crime to be seated.

    I think the truth is that there has always been a responsibility within each community assist the police; part of the problem or part of the solution, and all those other old saws.

    Our lives have become so hectic — frenetic even — as we rush from place to place and ……… I feel as if we have lost our sense of community and connectivity. I suppose this is a foible of all cities, and we ARE a city, much as many of us hoped we could remain a sleepy town that time forgot. Even the Brac, certainly less hectic that Grand Cayman, but still getting more crime, more violence. Is it inevitable? It certainly seems easy to say so, and sadly shake our heads. Why, when I was a boy……

    We need to do more, especially in those crime dense areas. No, you can’t turn in your cousin, or your brother or sister….. or can you? Loyalty works both ways.

    I wish we could have faith that the Cayman Crime Stoppers and Confidential Tip Line is completely safe. I want to believe.

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    • Anonymous says:

      You imported and granted status to to thousands of poverty ridden foreigners. Whah do you expect to happen?

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      • Some guy with odd shoes says:

        Yes, I did, but so did you. The question that really matters is what will it take to fix it, or is that even possible at this late date?

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      • Anonymous says:

        Don’t ignore the complete incompetence of our elected officials. Both before and after status was granted. Generational Caymanians are completely unable to elect ethical Ministers. And the ‘best of the best’ of Caymanians don’t want anything to do with the corrupt public offices. What are we left with – the like of the MacBeater and his cronies – who get elected again and again.

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        • Anonymous says:

          A huge chunk of electors do not want educated, qualified honest non- corrupted politicians, their only criteria is that they have extra cash to buy them with. It will be an uphill battle for “suitable persons” to get elected until most of the current one get too old to hobble on stage or waddle into parliament.

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    • Anonymous says:

      no… the rcip are in fact laughably incompetent. scores of cases are dismissed each year because they fail to do something as simple as wear gloves while collecting evidence.

      you want to know why no one wants to talk to them? it’s because it’s a health hazard. witnesses have been killed when members of the rcip leak information.

      you are right, we have become complacent, we have allowed the police force to deteriorate to the point where their corruption and ineptitude renders them incapable to do Thier jobs.

      we got used to safety and we never built in safetys to prevent our police service from withering on the vine.

      so on that front you are right, we are responsible.

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  19. Anonymous says:

    Time to declare a state of emergency and abandon the veil of civilized law enforcement.
    The only language that the scum will understand.
    The band aids are clearly not working, it’s time for surgery.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Governor you reading this..?

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      • Sir Humphrey says:

        3:12, What are you implying? Direct rule?

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        • Anonymous says:

          No, asking that UK takes control of Police force by getting rid of Jamaican and other Caribbean officers and bring in professional Brit police who will enforce the laws across the board.
          As it is “looking the other way” has become the relaxed norm because of Caribbean attitudes towards their bredren dem.

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      • Anonymous says:

        This is our problem. We need to deal with this. If you allow our U.K. representative to take control we may not like the solution. Just because security is the Governors constitutional responsibility does not mean we want that individual to exercise their authority when it comes to local crime. We want their assistance and advice for sure but Cayman needs to demonstrate we can solve these local problems for ourselves. I should note the Governors directions will come from the home office and are unlikely to consider any local nuances.

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    • Anonymous says:

      A state of emergency!!!! That is such a bad idea. Just quietly release the cuffs on the RCIPS, they know lowlifes.

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      A state of emergency!!!! That is such a bad idea. Just quietly release the cuffs on the RCIPS, they know trogladites

  20. Caymanian says:

    Also, in Pease Bay, BT a series of shots were fired Tuesday night at about 9:34pm we heard about 6 shots then at about 9:38pm we heard about 21 more shots over about 1 minute period.

    We have guns all over the Island now.

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  21. Anonymous says:

    Instead of expanding the airport Kenneth needs to expand the prison and we need tougher laws. Repeat offenders should be locked up for longer. If we dont stop this it will destroy us. Just look around the Caribbean.

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    • Anonymous says:

      It may seem counterintuitive, but research consistently shows that longer/ tougher sentences have a negligible effect on both crime rate and seriousness of offending, and certainly less than education/employment based interventions. We already have stiff mandatory minimums for firearm offences (although getting convictions does require people not to protect the perpetrators…)- it would be nice for once to see Government come up with some proposals which aren’t just ‘make it even more illegal’- that lever doesn’t work.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Waste of money on prison.. build a warehouse with cages.

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    • Anonymous says:

      You are asking a convicted criminal to reform the justice system. See the problem?

      Elections have consequences

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  22. Anonymous says:

    Ugh, these people are scum and the cops know who they are but do very little.

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