Hospital admission increase worries CMO
(CNS): UPDATED: There are now 29 people admitted to either the Cayman Islands Hospital or Health City, six more than yesterday, as the number of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 grows. Chief Medical Officer Dr John Lee said he was worried by the increase in elderly people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and urged the community to take precautions to slow its spread.
Officials also said Tuesday evening that another 192 positive cases had been recorded as of 8am that morning, just one of which was in a traveller. There are now 4,045 active cases of COVID-19 in Cayman with 4,633 people in isolation
Across all three hospitals, 55 beds have been set aside for COVID-19 patients, but more than half of those beds are already being used, reducing the wiggle room health services have before regular services start to be impacted.
In a video message on Tuesday, Dr Lee said that 25 of the 29 people in hospital (86%) are unvaccinated.
More than half of the COVID patients currently admitted need help breathing. One is on a ventilator, another needs “respiratory assistance in the form of a mask with additional pressure support” and another 13 are being given additional oxygen, he said.
A resident from the Pines Retirement Home, where there was an outbreak of COVID-19 at the weekend, is among those who have been admitted to hospital.
Most of the 29 COVID patients are older people who, whether vaccinated or not, are more vulnerable to this coronavirus, and the community should be especially careful when visiting the elderly and those with additional health problems.
“With these groups of people, please remember to wear your masks, to avoid hugging them, keep to your hand hygiene and distancing when you can,” the CMO said, adding that if possible people should take a lateral flow test and make sure they are negative before visiting a vulnerable or elderly person.
He also urged people to wear masks properly, saying he had seen people in businesses not wearing masks properly and removing them to speak to people, which is exactly what people should not do because that is when the virus spreads most easily.
According to figures released on Tuesday morning one in 18 people in Cayman, or 4,047 individuals, are currently infected with the virus.
In a video message reviewing last week’s trends in coronavirus data, Deputy Medical Officer of Health Dr Eryka Simmons revealed that between 14 and 20 November, there were 1,068 new positive cases of the virus, with a daily average of 153, which is down from over 200 during the previous week.
The average age of those being infected is 31, and Dr Simmons said that most cases are in people in the workforce, though six babies and 27 people over the age of 70 were infected last week. 66% of those infected were unvaccinated.
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“Horrific” vaccine-resistant variant evolution B.1.1.529, with an unusual constellation of mutations, is already on the loose internationally, and will likely be named Epsilon by WHO on Friday. Herd death is not a workable public health strategy and we are on the frontlines of pre-sequenced contact.
If you can back off from fear mongering for a few minutes and check out the facts regarding B.1.1.529, you will find that scientists are indeed “concerned” about such a mutated Covid virus, but have not done enough research to give an opinion as to how it relates to current vaccines. Nor have they formed an opinion as to the R0 of this variant. Take a breath and come back when you have some clinical/science-based facts.
So what happened Sabrina to the “we can handle covid, we can handle cases in our hospitals” you are now talking about setting up a triage at the church…yep you have it under control
Italy has taken another common sense step to limiting the spread of Covid today. Too bad common sense is not present within PACT.
“Italy has unveiled new Covid measures, set to come into force on 6 December, that will ban unvaccinated people from entering venues including cinemas, restaurants and sports events (see also 15:17).
“We are seeing the situation in bordering countries is very serious and we also see that the situation in Italy is gradually but constantly getting worse,” the prime minister, Mario Draghi, told reporters after the cabinet approved the new rules.
“We want to be very prudent to try to safeguard what Italians have achieved in the last year.”
From 15 December, mandatory vaccination will be extended to include all school staff, police and the military. Healthcare workers are already required to be vaccinated.
Booster shots, currently available to people aged 40-plus, will be made available to all adults.”
It is so easy to comment on what is happening in a country in which you have never lived.
What do you do? Just troll the internet and find something that suits your narrative?
Just change the policy to no vaccine, no medicare…
Of course people that can’t have the vaccine for medical reasons will be treated, but other than that, let the unvaccinated sick figure it out for themselves…
Singapore has adopted this approach.
Shall we also take up caning punishment ? Ban chewing gum?
If that’s what it takes.
Only for people on work permits.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Absolutely! Worked on me and a few others during my school days. Kids these days do not know the meaning of hard work, respect for elders and perseverance.
No, but don’t ask me to pay for these unvaccinated people’s stay and life long after care in hospital/ICU through my taxes or through increased health insurance premiums charged to me.
They decided not to be vaccinated.
In the face of (repeatedly and clearly laid out) scientific fact – they chose social media fiction.
Their bodies. Their Choices. Their Consequences.
Um, yes.
Ban chewing gum (awful habit) Ban single use plastic, Ban Styrofoam(sorry DART) Also, actually enforce littering fines, jail cruelty to animals, Name & shame blue spot jerks, Catch and ticket speeders, Wear a mask, Care for others….sounds like a civilized society eh?
Oh yeah, save the whales 🙂
Good citizenship starts at home.
Teach your children.
Yes, It’s very disgusting that people throw it on the ground and it messes up your shoes or they stick on tables.
People are going to die. You don’t live forever, especially with the older population we have hanging on. Survival of the fittest, let it run its course and then move on
“… older population we have hanging on.” It will be your turn some day son. I hope karma judges you fairly.
I’m so sorry that my elderly self is continuing to inconvenience you with my presence. I’ll tell you something though: You can probably run faster, lift more, jump higher, but I doubt you could keep up with me for a week of work at my pace. Why do I think that? Because if you’d have been raised with respect for your elders, you’d probably also have been raise with work integrity and grit.
?? spokesperson for the profit at any price folks instructing government??
The unvaccinated, the elderly, and persons with comorbid factors. Those other people to watch. Other than that don’t worry about it. You get a little bit sick your Covid positive, so wet just hunker down in place and let it run its course. The key is getting vaccinated. If you haven’t then do so. If you don’t plan on it then don’t complain
This article and this release shows just how much the vaccine works and how stupid you are to not get it. By my calculations and some basic maths applied, given 5000 people on island with covid out of 71000, where 66 per cent of the total cases are in unvaccinated, and 80% of the entire population are vaxed, then currently that means:
3% of all vaccinated people in cayman have covid
23% of all unvaccinated people in cayman have covid
Just shows what we know – if you are vaxed your less likely to get it, less likely to spread it, and less likely to die from it.
Original poster here. Do the 10 dislikes just reject my 8 year old basic and forest back of a napkin maths or refuse to get vaccinated because you think the devil created it?
There are no known medical conditions that absolutely prevent a person getting a Covid 19 vaccine.
Fact.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2021/08/19/what-are-the-medical-exemptions-for-not-getting-a-covid-19-vaccine
Individuals have the right to make their own medical decisions regardless of what anyone thinks. The choice is theirs alone and they also have the right to privacy about their health.
In the case of infectious diseases that is only true when some decisions put others at risk.
How are you at risk from an unvaccinated person is you are vaccinated?
The typo is hilarious or “is you?”
18 months into this pandemic and you still cannot understand that unvaccinated people are what is keeping this spike going. And what about unvaccinated children coming into contact with wackadoodle like you?
Get the jab. It is not about you, it is about protecting others.
If 100% of the population was vaccinated do you believe the virus will stop? You don’t understand how this type of virus works even for those who are fully vaccinated so you bring in the “what about the children” argument because you don’t understand the risks to children either. You are operating on pure fear and evidently not keeping up with science or reason. I was vaccinated 8 months ago to protect myself.
Because a) you can still catch the disease even if less likely to do so and b) that unvaccinated person will, if they get seriously il, tie up a hospital bed and resources that I could need if I fall ill for another reason. And then of course there are all the restrictions being imposed on the vaccinated because of the rate of transmission created by unvaccinated people. Other than that, nothing.
Why would the hospital beds be tied up if treatments other than the vaccine that are up to 95% effective were available? How many global deaths have been reported because there weren’t enough hospital beds? Do you even know? Your arguments are completely baseless.
Until you start impacting/overwhelming the hospitals in which case the Government needs to stick you with the vaccine…
So why does the government have the right to know I tested positive on a LFT?
I agree with you so no need to report it then!
Selfish git.
Covid thanks you for allowing it to live and spread amongst the people. You’re a good soldier
I am 3X vaxxed. I am also aware that I can still get Covid and Long Covid and that the probability of an unvaccinated person transmitting Covid is significantly higher than a vaccinated person transmitting Covid. That is one of the reasons why I am in favour of a vaccine mandate in relation to access to optional public areas like restaurants and cinemas.
You have a healthy sense of precaution. Transmissibility from vaxed/unvaxed is actually the same, while positive. The vaxed hopefully having a shorter infection and transmissibility period. Being vaccinated is a bit like wearing chainmail to a gunfight: none of us know how, or if, it will work if we get shot. The fifth waves demonstrate that we should continue to stay away from kooks that are dancing around, out of their trenches, trying to test their mettle. They’re going to get shot, and maybe more than once.
The vaxxed have a 40% lower probability of being infected and therefore of transmitting the virus. It is much safer being in a public space such as a restaurant if all staff and patrons are vaxxed. The unvaxxed pose an unacceptable risk in such environments.
Fair enough, however and unacceptable risk to whom? You’re vaccinated, right? Scared?
unacceptable to anyone that thinks about it.
People may ‘dislike’ but those are the facts.
40% eh?
Can you back that up?
Speaking of kooks, I witnessed two women in line having a talk with one pulling their mask down to talk and one man in the same line with his mask below his nose. This was not at a small store. This was at one of the islands nicest large grocery stores, and no one is adhering to maintaining social distancing there at all. Vaccinated or not, this behavior negates everything we did right for so long to slow the pandemic from spreading. People cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
Agreed. I would like the opportunity to take my family to a restaurant with a 40% lower risk of Covid infection. Why should the unvaccinated be the ones to control the risks we are forced to take in this ‘new normal’?
Sweetie, we’ll all be gone soon, and you can be left with your horrible selves to figure out what went wrong.
No evidence whatsoever that unvaccinated spread the virus at a higher rate than vaccinated.
CDC has admitted this.
Ireland, Gibraltar, Israel having their worst outbreaks AFTER reaching >80% vaccination rate also confirms this.
Get vaccinated because it lowers symptoms. Don’t ask for government mandates, it never ends well.
Complete rubbish. People who are vaxxed have a 40% lesser chance of getting Covid if exposed and therefore the vaxxed in a population pose a 40% lower risk to others. Further, vaxxed people who contract Covid are infectious for 1/2 the period of time of unvaxxed further reducing the risk of being in an environment with only vaxxed people. Source:
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html
BS alert – please provide the link to the CDC site that says what you claim. This is a link to the CDC that says the opposite.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html
Fake news spreader.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/gibraltar/
You can check any country there. Please look at the 7-day moving average for deaths. Severe cases are not the same even with Delta emerging.
But you will find “FACTs” on FaceBook or TikTok etc to suit your argument.
So PFO
Good advice from the WHO this morning for the ‘we are vaccinated so we can ignore public health protocols’ crowd.
Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told a WHO media briefing:…
“that while vaccines save lives, they do not fully prevent Covid transmission, and in the case of Delta, vaccines reduce transmission by just 40%.
He said many countries have a “false sense of security” that vaccines have ended the pandemic and a belief that vaccinated people do not need to take precautions.
He said: “We cannot say this clearly enough: even if you are vaccinated, continue to take precautions to prevent becoming infected yourself, and to infecting someone else who could die.”
For how long….forever?
As long as it takes, for the safety of society
thank you captian obvious…who is disputing that?
you are obviously an anti-vaxxer….
these are the other facts:
unvaxxed are 10 times more likley to get serious covid and are more likely to catch it and transmit?
understand?
Please provide evidence that following mask protocols and social distancing in certain countries has led to less severe outbreaks than countries that didn’t have any protocols at all.
I’ll wait.
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068302
Excellent analysis reported in a well respected medical journal. Thank you!
You are a human pestilence for assisting in the spread of Covid if you follow these beliefs in reality
It is time to allow everyone who is more than 6 months past their 2nd vaccine dose to get the booster. A recent Israeli study shows that this will decrease the stress on both the health care system and the economy in general.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/24/health/israel-covid-booster-lessons-intl-cmd/index.html
Completely agree, particularly as we are about to have a lot of overseas students returning for the holiday who were vaccinated here early in the year. The booster needs to be made available to them.
Not to let simple facts and maths get in the way of fear and irrationality, but a look at the latest CDC figures in America is worth a moment of your time before you spontaneously combust of total fear as the winter brings a SURGE in RESPIRATORY diseases!! (OMG! Who knew we’d get sick in winter? Its never happened before apart from every winter!) Read the below quote from Table 3 on the link below –
“For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. “
CDC acknowledges that 94% of all Covid attributable deaths had co-morbidities, and over 60% of them had 4 (yes, FOUR). CDC also states that of all deaths in America in past 20 months among those under the age of 29 (approx. 180,000) that Covid was ‘involved’ in 5,000 of them – that would be 0.03%….when are you going to calm down, stop vaccinating people who don’t need to be vaccinated and just think rationally?
CDC further goes on to show that of 6.2M deaths in USA in 20 months, 765,000 are ‘attributable’ to Covid – that’s not even 13%…and of that 13%, at least 12% had underlying conditions, 10% had 4 (FOUR).
I’m lost as to how to get thru to people that this is a massive, massive over reach and the vaccines are wholly unnecessary for most. If you’ve never taken a flu vax, don’t be taking a Covid vax UNLESS you’ve developed an underlying condition in recent months. If you want to take one, do. But do not take it and try to make it that everyone should have one.
And ask yourself how many ‘boosters’ you’re willing to inject for a virus that won’t harm you? It sure won’t stop you spreading it so that argument about saving Granny is utter nonsense. And you wont be able to travel if that’s why you took it, because they’ll switch your status to un-vaxd at the drop of a hat.
Ask yourself – wtf is wrong with you that you’re panicking like a little child going to the dentist for the first time? Grow up and wake up before its too late.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Your score is 11 by my count, although I did not know we were having a contest to see who can take the largest number of points out of context. Good effort! You have achieved a high level of nonsense!
5,000 out of 180,000 is 3%, not 0.3%. Low but not trivial.
Very good information. I hope people are open to accepting this reality, but sadly too many are completely driven by fear and paranoia whilst bypassing facts.
When you can’t or won’t do simple math correctly your argument loses.
5k/180k = 2.77% not 0.03%
That is off by a factor of 90+.
As for your other math relating to underlying conditions, you can have underlying conditions for a long-time and live a quality life. That is what modern medicine allows. Diabetes, heart disease, being overweight or being a cancer survivor are not immediate death sentences.
It is incredibly disrespectful to minimize the needless or accelerated loss of life as well as the damage that has been done to those who survived.
We all saw the world before the introduction of the vaccine and if you think that was normal or acceptable then there is not much I can do to change your mind. But understand this you are a fool in the classic sense as you are acting unwisely. It may come back to haunt you or it may not. As you know the probability is on your side, but it is not to the extent you seem to believe.
Have a nice day, please wear your mask and stop passing bad information about.
excellent point! I am glad that CMO properly explained what counts as a COVID death.
Thank you.
Further evidence that reliance on voluntary measures is likely to lead to increased Covid spread. Guardian
“One in four adults in England ignore self-isolation rules after testing positive for Covid
One in four adults in England who test positive for Covid are ignoring self-isolation rules, according to a survey by the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
The research found just 75% of respondents fully followed isolation requirements for 10 days after testing positive.
It marks a fall from September, when 78% said they adhered, and a significant drop since May, when the figure was 86%.
The latest figures are based on responses collected from adults in England between 1 and 6 November.
The ONS said the attitude change between May and November was “statistically significant”.”
In cayman it’s probably 3 and 4, hence the Uk did so much better than we are doing here now. Cayman community covid response and behavior has been an embarrassment.
Well there’s been no leadership from government so it’s to be expected.
It’s also true that half of the UK voted for Brexit, and for Boris Johnson. Go figure.
Hong Kong had a bad Covid surge this past summer but has now completely eliminated local transmission by using common sense public health measures. Too bad common sense is not frequently seen among our decision makers.
https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news-alerts/548601/china-authorities-in-hong-kong-extend-domestic-covid-19-curbs-through-dec-8-update-77
For some reason I do not feel sorry for the unvaccinated. Actually I do feel sorry for them that they are so easily tricked and confused. Those amongst us with very low levels of intelligence have put us at risk. We should identify these people and force vaccinate them, or segregate them from the wider community. Maybe we can establish an area to keep them away from the wider community.
That’s because you lack empathy
And there it is. Yet another call for segregation. History is not on your side here.
its all very simple:
to drive a car and protect others…you need to be tested, have insurance and carry proof of passing a test.
does this sound familar to anybody?
Whataboutism much? Driving a car legally is not a right, it’s a privilege that must be gained. Covid is nothing at all like it
So what do you propose for the vaccinated people who are hospitalized and testing positive and symptomatic?
I think you’re trolling. I feel sorry for you, if those are your true opinions — that we should “establish an area to keep them away from the wider community”. You’re vaccinated. I’m vaccinated. What are you afraid of? Surely you aren’t threatened by unvaccinated folk?
It’s deeper than that. This pandemic has allowed people to become their true selves, much like the Trump era did. We are finding that millions of people are actually bad. There is a common thread with these people who now feel free to express their true selves. It’s fascism and hate for their fellow man. It’s happened throughout history in many places and it’s quite easy to see it happening again in this pandemic.
Are you a lunatic? Most elderly can’t be vaccinated because of health reasons.
Stallan reasoning and forcing people to do things against their will.
The vaccine won’t prevent you from getting covid or prevent you from spreading it to others. It just helps you from getting really, really sick.
The lack of empathy is astonishing for the people that have the vaccine against the unvaccinated.
Now all of a sudden the island that has had no interest in health for the past 20 years is now health gurus knowing what’s best for everyone.
I am unvaccinated and I have been learning health for over 15 years, clearly unintelligent at its finest.
Health is more than taking a jab and bashing everyone that doesn’t choose so.
This thinking is worst than the vegans bashing meat-eaters.
The next level of empathy in Cayman is on the rise. (Sarcasm)
Most elderly can’t be vaccinated for health reasons? Its almost impossible to have a legitimate health reason not to be vaccinated. Those elderly your refer to are getting poor advice from their relatives who spend too much time reading conspiracies on Facebook. Pines is a great example…no idea how someone who ended up in the Pines thought to themselves “I think I’m gonna be better off in here unvaccinated”.
This is a dangerous lie. Most elderly people can and should be vaccinated. That is why they were vaccinated first. Because they are the most at risk. I can’t believe there is anyone out there that doesn’t know this. There are very very few people that cannot actually be vaccinated for legitimate medical conditions.
Unvaccinated people are five times more likely to catch covid in the first place. That means that you are five times more likely to spread covid than your vaccinated neighbour. That is why we have so many cases of unvaccinated people catching covid right now despite making up less than 20% of the population.
What do you even mean by you’ve “been learning health for the past 15 years”? That makes no sense. Go get vaccinated. It’s free and they are open today. Save yourself and your community.
You’re unvaccinated but you’ve been “learning health” for 15 years??
There aren’t enough face palms
That’s nonsense
With Epsilon and Zeta still on the possibility list, does wishful overconfidence in our waning-efficacy vaccine (against strain from 2 years ago) confer intelligence and social dominance? Or is it just a flimsy and temporary layer of armour right now? Does a feeling of pretending the global pandemic is over, matter more than factual realities of global 5th waves? What about this mythical pro-business flu-conflated herd immunity fable? After 2 years, where exactly does that exist? Narrative filtering skills seem to be absent at both linear extremes. You admit to being guided by your feelings while proposing authoritarian constraints on real people, which is batshit ideology. Let’s try to find the middle again and restore some rationality and empathy to our brains, especially as it applies to our friends, neighbours, and other citizens (even if they consume and rely on tragically maligned info sources). We are all in this boat together, and for many of us, it’s a boat we chose.
The CDC states: “For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death”.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
7.06 – READ this. Actually take the time and read this from the CDC. You have completely gone down the wrong path and a dangerous one at that. This mentality is shocking in the face of facts.
they haven’t put you at increased risk, everyone can spread covid regardless of vaccination status. Israel, Ireland Gibraltar all having terrible outbreaks despite >90% vaccination rates.
As the premier said we got this so now lets hope they come up with a plan to deal with it because the hospitals ae filing up fast!
Per capita only approximately 1% of the people in the hospital for COVID are vaccinated. We can only hope the CIG will not put further restrictions in place due to the idiocy of unvaccinated people. A vaccinated population can live with COVID without restrictions. One would also hope the unvaccinated people are not clogging up the hospital and make non COVID related healthcare harder to come by for vaccinated people.
Which vaccine stops me from catching covid?
How to prove you are an idiot in less than ten words.
unfortunately stupidity is more contagious and longer lasting than covid.
its really had to let some people understand something that makes sense. No one said that we can’t have a breakthrough but it WILL HELP US FROM BEING ON A SUPPORT SYSTEM OR DYING.
Let’s hope, and for as long as variant assumptions hold.
Debatable when you look to Gibraltar and Israel. Many vaccinated have been on support systems and many have sadly died.
Given the numbers we are seeing here, this is the worst anti-vaxx argument I’ve heard yet.
Totally false. You cannot slow the spread without adherence to distancing, isolations, mask wearing and good hygiene. Your “let’s get on with it” thought process of abandoning restrictions is THE reason that Covid is spreading rapidly
Thank you! Other islands have found that vaccine mandates and late night curfews to minimize drunken contagion has also assisted.
People like that love to place blame on the people playing dominoes all of the time, while they are the danger to society. Those guys playing dominoes aren’t going to posh restaurants and stores and bars.
Yes! Remember Cocktail Weekend .. and the surge in cases after that! Amazing that people who caught it then are still in denial.
They now have long lasting natural immunity.
Yeah right. Your type is the reason the virus is spreading rapidly. Entitled and selfish. Just as bad as the antivaxxers
They can thank the pirate’s week parties, even after the CMO advised against the large gatherings, for the surge, but hey let just carrying on talking about the unvaccinated and click beers at that popular and packed waterfront hangout maskless.
The posh here do love a scapegoat and the harmless people at the store bother no one
The same types that participated in that were shopping at Cost U Less today. Security had to ask an umasked posh lady to move away from the entrance/exit doors. She thought it was amusing for some reason. There’s your superspreaders, not the locals
Sure keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. But I think you know where covid is actually spreading the most and just don’t want to face the truth.
HSA should publish the CT counts of the 4000 active cases.
We are still at 40 CT when many counties now consider 35 CT as non detected and non viral.
We need to get these folks who pose no harm to the community out of quarantine.
The people who disliked you comment obviously had no idea what you were talking about. They will though after experiencing a 21 plus days of isolation because they or their family members are still testing positive on the PCR for detection of dead virus fragments in their sinus cavities.
will keep asking the same question:
why no vax passport system for social settings? it will protect the unvaxxed, protect others and protect our helath service.
why has this not even been asked at one of the press conferences????
Your vaccine status has no bearing on if or when you’ll get covid.
This comment 1s ridiculous.
It certainly does have a bearing on whether you’re likely to get very ill.
And that matters.
Hopefully.
Debatable
Only in the minds of those unable to accept facts.
Well to be fair PACT avoids having press conferences and limits the questions they’ll take. I don’t know of any other country whose government hasn’t addressed the public when they’ve had this many covid cases. But I guess it is because they’ve decided to just let it burn through the population without trying to slow it down at all so there isn’t much to say.
I am not sure how else to say this. Unvaccinated were mostly elderly and children. Its likely that most of the elders cannot get the vaccine because of some underlying problems. Children are yet to he vaccinated.
So why again are the unvaccinated been blamed? Perhaps we need to know from the number of unvaccinated how many is unable to get the shot due to underlying conditions?
None of your business
The risk of death from Covid for unvaccinated elderly is HUGE compared to any risk from the vaccines available. Ask yourself how many hospitals worldwide are full of people dying from a vaccine. Answer none. Underlying health problems that prevent vaccination in a country with 1 in 20 infected are not the reason our hospitals are full of unvaccinated people at risk of death. The unvaccinated are unvaccinated because of fear, misinformation and are now literally dying of ignorance. Anti Vax Churches here have a Christian duty to change their advice, now that the risk of covid is so real. The situation is very different to that a year ago, the hospitals WILL fill and more will die. Please take the vaccine today. Protect yourself, your family and your country. The threat is form our own unvaccinated community not from outside.
There are many unvaccinated that should be vaccinated. Don’t let those vaccinated numbers fool you. Expats came in from overseas and got shots in the beginning. I want to know how many of those shots really are residents. Hopefully, they will finish the census soon and we can find out what the population of these islands.
People with underlying problems are EXACTLY who should be taking the vaccine!!
There are almost NO contradictions for taking it.
Having health problems and being unvaccinated is like having a death wish right now.
List of Pfizer contraindications here: basically a history of serious allergic reactions.
https://www.sharp.com/upload/Pfizer-Biontech-Contraindications-and-Precautions.pdf
We are still #1 in the world three weeks counting, (table half way down the page).
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html
1600 cruise ship passengers are arriving Dec. 28 according to CMR. Happy New Year!
God help them. They are walking into a covid trap.
It’s becoming like a movie. Contagion 2.0
Most of our so-called healthcare professionals and politicians leave a lot to be desired. They seem to be the only groups that keep being surprised by things that everyone else is able to predict based on generally available information.
I was a certain plaza today and saw a foreign person enter a business without a mask, and he was sent back outside to get one which he in his car. Then I was sitting in
a shop in the same plaza and saw two others enter with masks but did not sanitize their hands and proceed to handle the jugs of milk and utensils. No wonder we have such a spread when simple hand hygiene is not enforced by establishments.
Live you own sad life and leave others alone
You’ve had the vaccines, what’s the problem? You are safe aren’t you?
WOW! After almost 2 years you are STILL so ill-informed?
SHOCKING or is it because you prefer to keep your head in the sand?
Pisses me off the stupidity you project!
“foreign person” – how do you know?
Unless you know that person, you don’t.
Stop with the racial profiling.
@24/11/2021 at 8:26 am – You’re living on a 100 sq. ft. island with approx. 70k full time inhabitants. It is very easy for the people who have lived here longer than a couple of years to tell who is Caymanian, who is a foreign resident and who is a tourist. Your “racial profiling” accusation is idiotic.
100 sq ft, eh?
Typo aside, you are still wrong.
So you can magically tell someone’s paperwork status as they “enter a business”. I doubt it.
There are plenty of Caymanian status holders that look and sound like anyone else on the planet.
Who’s the idiot?
Saw 2 obvious foreigners stopped by security for waking past the sanitizer too. These are the people spreading the disease. They simply don’t care.
That X-pat only vaccine mandate that everyone was so proud of working out great I see, Whiles the unvaccinated continue to pile up in the hospital……..,
I do hope they make a speedy recovery, and I do hope more people get vaccinated before we go further down this rabbit hole
Is this the same guy that was out there talking about ”living with Covid ‘ just last week?
What a joker
66% of those infected are unvaccinated. 86% of those in hospital are unvaccinated. And still we have deluded morons amongst us refusing to get vaccinated.
yep we do… not even death will make them change their minds..
Yep. Especially when you consider 80% of the population are vaccinated. So 20% of the population are producing 2/3rds of the infections and nearly 9 in 10 of the hospital admissions.
All in the name of ‘freedom’.
With the age range starting at 3 months, I would be grateful to know the percentages of vaccinated vs unvaccinated with respect to the vaccination eligible population. Extract the children under 12 so that we can see the true comparison.
Why? What difference will that make? This is showing that unvaccinated people, whether they could be vaccinated or not, are more likely to catch covid.
I guess maybe it also suggests that the unvaccinated adults should be ashamed because they did nothing to try to protect the children that can’t be vaccinated.
Or put another way
6% of those infected are stupid, and selfish. 86% of those in hospital are are regretting that they are sick, stupid & selfish
Someone spent hours upvoting this comment. I won’t get mRNA jab if you pay me a million bucks.
The AstraZeneca vaccine is also available locally but presumably you have some alien plot reason for not taking that one either.
Oh I bet you would, since you’re all about the money. I bet you’d get stuck like a pin cushion once offered millions of that green crack.
Do you have a clinically supported contraindication against the vaccine? Do you have a clinically relevant reason based on evidence from the Cayman Islands? Or are you relying on tin hat theories from abroad as basis for you anti-vax stance?
Appears judging and insulting others is one of the many side effects of the Covid jabs Going mental is another.
I think you would be sorely disappointed in the average IQ of those who are vaccinated vs unvaccinated.
The campaign to encourage more people to get vaxxed by insulting them probably won’t work so well
Intelligent logical people should be able to grasp the clear evidence:
After over 100,000 doses of vax administered in the islands there are zero death certificates listing the vax as a primary or contributing cause of death. There is no statistical evidence of excess deaths in the islands that would point to post vax increased mortality. No statistical or even sound anecdotal evidence of any serious injury attributable to the vaccine. If the vaccine were causing serous injury or death, in this closed community, it would be talked far and wide, impossible to hide. Tin hat fools here believe in the myths being spewed by anti-vax tin hats in the USA, UK, EU and other huge populations where sorting truth from fiction is vastly more difficult and lies and liars harder to expose. Here the facts speak loudly and clearly. If the vax was as deadly or harmful as the tin hat fools say, the islands’ hospitals and funeral homes would see an increase in business attributable to vaccine side effects, but that is not happening. So far no one can give us any verifiable local evidence to support their resistance to the vaccine. The best they can do is parrot anti-vax tripe originating from fringe tin hat loonies. Perhaps you or someone else here can share with us some informed and educated reasons for resisting the vax, other than properly diagnosed underlying conditions that make the person a clinically poor candidate for the vaccine. Believing in tin hat theories is not a disqualifying condition.
All these Covid mitigation factors are minimally effective indoors as long as Caymanians are left unvaccinated.
Get your boosters ASAP and meet outdoors if necessary.
Caymanians are not the only unvaccinated individuals that reside in the Cayman Islands…
Yes, there are a number of unvaccinated iguanas in the Seven Mile Beach Corridor.
Some (but by no means all) white expats can’t tell the difference between a Caymanian, a Jamaican, a Trini, a Bajan and a Latino – and they really don’t want to.
I agree. Some just see people. You should try it.
I judge on their character, not where they come from…words akin to some other wise words.
I can tell from the Hate and entitlement mentality. And the terribly disrespectful driving. But I am a brown expat so maybe that’s why I can tell. But I do have a harder time telling Jamaicans from Caymanians on the roads.
True. But given the vaccine be mandates for expats they are likely to be the overwhelming majority. But who cares, really. Covid doesn’t. The issue is whether you are vaccinated if you are medically capable of it – because if you are not, you are taking a major risk with your health and the health of everyone you come in contact with. Don’t care if you are a Caymanian or an expat – you are a fool, and a selfish one at that.
Most of my foreign staff are not vaccinated. Just saying!
Are you a Pastor?
It’s such bs. People working at Hurleys yes Hurleys one guy who works stocking by the milk area walking back and forth NO MASK their cashiers mask below their noses…u gonna tell me managers or supervisor don’t notice this.
Customers doing the samething
This is one if the reasons people getting sick
Not to mention the self serve salad bar. Those utensils have been touched by everyone that visits the bar. These same utensils are often dropped in the food that people then eat. This is not a safe practice with the current outbreak.
Living with Covid means adjusting our way of doing things not carrying on as if there was no issue. Come on Health Minister start communicating with the businesses and develop some best practices.
Life can still go on, we just need to adjust a little.
good point. I was astounded when I got here and saw the buffets open!! There has not been an open buffet in Canada since March 2020. Also you must be vaccinated to get on an airplane, most places you need to be vaccinated to go to a restaurant or bar, theatre, or other event. Its time for the vaccine passport here, well actually it was time a while ago.
Those purchasing food in such conditions are essentially saying, ‘I’ll have a salad with a side of Covid please.’
6.31pm But I wonder how many of the unvaccinated in hospital are Caymanian,most, I suspect.
@5:18
nobody has asked for your conclusions and advice
I wonder if PACT and the cabal are keeping their eyes sharp and ready to recognize the point of no return? If more than half of ALL assigned covid beds are already filled and we’ve just begun phase 4, can’t they see that by Christmas this place will have no more covid-assigned beds, less oxygen, less medical frontline staff on their feet,…everything other places have experienced with covid surges and under-preparation? With more “regular” hospital beds assigned to covid care, the care for other medical cases will decrease, people will not attend to critical situations and have more heart attacks, strokes etc. at home, than usual.
Not that I hope that it’ll be needed but hope they don’t wait too long to set up the emergency field hospital.
Any word on that PACT?
They are currently setting up the field hospital. That was announced a couple of weeks ago
What more can anyone do? Everyone has been told to get vaccinated, everyone had been told to wash their hands and social distance..If you don’t follow the public health policies there is not a damn thing the government or anyone can do to stop this. Even if we locked down again what difference would it make, it’s community spread (us) not travellers spreading it.
Please go get vaccinated for yourself and your loved ones.
tourists here make zero difference.
to the economy or otherwise
ignorance x 2
Saw examples to contraindicate that today. Tourists having to be stopped by security to sanitize who were upset that they had to do it and one unmasked lady that was asked to step away from the exit doors. She thought it was funny.
Are you here to annoy everyone?
When something dominates your life for a sizeable length of time, let alone the best part of 2 years, you have to accept the agathokakological nature of the beast.
Walking barefooted on the beach should cure you from your obsessions.
Worries CMO but not enough to do anything about it.
Shall they force people to get vaccinated? 20 of the 25 are unvaccinated, the numbers seem pretty straightforward. We have held out for as long as we can waiting for people to get comfortable or whatever, you can’t cry victim if you did it to yourself.
Absolutely none of your business , what other peoples health choices are. Keep getting your shots and wearing your mask .
I plan to and for those that don’t believe in science and medicine how about don’t come running when you get sick and could’ve avoided it. Actions have consequences, we teach children that and it seems some have forgot it.
Sorry, Bobo, but when it comes to an epidemic it is everybody’s business.
MYOB.
No, but they can implement additional restrictions like other islands such as vaccinated in bars and restaurants, nighttime curfew, reduced capacity including church. I don’t understand why they don’t have reduced capacity for churches. You can catch Covid in church quicker than in a store. Some of the biggest super spreaders came from churches.
What would you suggest he does? Force people to be vaccinated. Recommend to government that they lock us down?!?
For a start, vaccine mandate for non-essential public spaces, 12 – 5 curfew and other measures that smart governments have implemented with success.
Suggest if u are a health care worker or CIG civil servant you are put on LWOP until you get vaccinated.
Time has come to get tough with the chronically stupid.
Actually maybe some further health restrictions on indoor dining, and lower group limits.
Which makes sense and is easy to implement
He cannot personally be responsible for the idiots who refuse to be vaccinated, added to those who don’t refuse to abide by standard safety protocols.
Govt has to take responsibility however for turning a blind eye in prosecuting the quarantine breakers ( their UDP friends) to set an example.
We have been told countless amounts of times to get vaccinated. Unless someone can’t get vaccine due to medical conditions, those are the consequences of their choice. It was expected.
Agree with you. And Unfortunately “their choice” impacts everyone else, as beds become unavailable and vaccinated people who need other medical care or surgery may now be unable to get medical attention or a hospital bed because of those unvaccinated people who exercised “their choice”.
You are aware I hope that a med condition for the vaccine is super rare right? Then add that to our small population? So max 2 people?
While it was expected that persons who were not vaccinated would be the greatest number of admissions to the hospital, why are we not hearing about vaccinated persons being admitted to the hospital? I am in no way trying to compare vaccinated to un-vaccinated but someone needs to come clean with the country and be upright and admit that there are currently and have been some very ill persons(not just severe or elevated symptoms)who were vaccinated, including some with the booster.
To be quite honest and dismal at the same time- we have not seen anything yet. Give it another 2 weeks and I fear that our tears will be flowing for a very grim situation.
@ chit-show – you obviously did not read the article, or you read it and didn’t understand it. Your question as to the number of vaccinated in the hospital is answered.
Oh geesh here come the conspiracy theorists again..The Hospital is not admitting the vaccinated?? ..What a load of crock! Does anyone really believe that the HSA or Health City would turn away anyone that is ill enough to be hospitalised.
For God’s sake people, please stop with this foolishness and go get vaccinated.
It’s relative – sure there are 4 people in hospital who are not vaccinated, but that’s outweighed 6 to 1 by the unvaccinated. And that’s off a massively smaller percentage of the population. But still you want to bleat on about how vaccinated people get infected as well. You keep playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the chamber if you want – doesn’t stop the reality that if you are not vaccinated you are WAY more likely to get infected and hospitalized. But I guess you can comfort yourself with not having “given in” to vaccination – ignoring of course all the other people you infected along the way.
4 people in the hospital are vaxed. The other 25 are not.
That math is bad enough, but it is even worse when you consider there are 4x as many vaxed as unvaxed.
But sure someone can come clean and say the vaccinations work really freakin well!
Population of 70,000 people
20 people in hospital who will all recover and if any die probably already were obese with diabetes and 70+
I’m so glad you are able to travel this holiday season. Who cares about old sick people dying, right?
an ugly truth…that will only come as a surprise to those who belived the cig lie…that cayman could somehow beat the virus.
What a horrible cold hearted statement… Those people are someone’s mother, father, brother or sister whom they are worried sick about. If you don’t have anything constructive to write then please keep your negativity to yourself and crawl back into the hole you live in.
My father lived to 93 with diabetes so diabetes isn’t killing you Covid is. Also, Diabetes runs in the family so it is very difficult to avoid getting it. Maybe, we should have genetic testing and abort people with bad genetics? Because that seems to be what you are saying or that people who are over 70 or have diabetes it’s okay for them to die. Wonder if you will feel the same way when you reach 70.
The number of hospitalizations at this point could have been 29 X .26 = < 8 if we had monoclonal antibodies. But we don't. Why?
https://c19regn.com/
Because Bobo we have free vaccinations.
@4:47pm If you and others had gotten vaccinated, you would not even need to ask this question..
Please go get vaccinated.
There is more than just one option to medically treat COVID. Betting on just one is just plain stupid. Monoclonal antibodies work on everyone vaccinated and unvaccinated. And I know all about MA – they work amazing well in most situations if started early at onset.
I am vaccinated, but can still be infected and can still end up in the hospital. Maybe you haven’t been keeping up. The bigger question is why you wouldn’t want to give a known, effective and approved medication to someone who is not vaccinated? You seem to be sick in the soul.
All part of the plan.
Business needs to make money, no matter the cost.
Seems like it. Just do nothing and see what happens.
What more can anyone do..Everyone has been told to get vaccinated, everyone had been told to wash their hands and social distance..If you don’t follow the public health policies there is not a damn thing the government or anyone can do to stop this. Even if we locked down again what difference would it make, it’s community spread (us) not travellers spreading it.
Please go get vaccinated for yourself and your loved ones.
Are you an undertaker?
Thanks Marc Lange-wahateva from Ritz. Pushing to get us open – all these stats and eventual deaths are on the hands of those that pushed hard for $$ over lives. #neverforget
The funny thing is tourists arent going to come and now the locals are staying home. be careful what you ask for.
” Dr Lee said that 25 of the 29 people in hospital (86%) are unvaccinated.”
If the government was truly interested in saving lives, there would be a vaccine mandate.
There would at least be vaccine mandates for the civil service and the use of vaccine passports for adults to encourage everyone else and get these cases under control.
Start mandates where living conditions are close together and where the occupation is considered at risk. Nursing homes, prisons and prisoners, school staff, hospital staff, police and fire. That would be a start.
4.59pm I repeat, Mr Manderson is “urging” them to get vaccinated, just be patient.
At this point we can’t even expect a womandate
Persondate you sexist.
Whatever floats your boat, proceed forthwith.
Me, for one, desire only a woman for a date and no allegations of sexism will ever stop me from saying that.
Women are just simply beautiful and I just adore them 😍
And if there was a vaccine mandate, people would be up in arms. Just the suggestion that people in the prisons, nursing homes, and first line essential workers got some negative feedback.
The vaccine has been made available for many months. People have heard the advice to get the vaccine and made their decision. The hospital stats are very telling.
They do not tell the whole story though. How many of these patients have underlying conditions, that do not allow them to take the vaccine. Lets have all the facts before you amateur doctors on here start giving out mandate and medical advice. PS get a life.
Mandates mean nothing when there are doctors handing out exemption letters for a price. We all know it’s happening
yup, just go to Doc feel good and we ALL know who I’m referring to 😉
Worried yes but surprised no. The government has chosen to let Covid rip through the community with no effort to curb spread. The vulnerable getting infected and some of them dying was entirely foreseeable. It was just not important to this government.
Don’t you mean the people not getting vaccinated, not wearing their masks correctly and not practicing good hygiene are the ones who do not care??
Why is this the governments fault? Why is not the pastors who encourage people not to get vaccinated? Why is it not the fault of people who test positive and then do not isolate and still go to work? Why is it not the fault of the parents who test their children at home….and then send them off to school without waiting 15-30 minutes to see if the Lateral Flow test is positive, (or send the kids to school anyways)?
There is more than enough fault to go around. Intelligent governments around the world have understood that they can slow transmission by putting in place vaccine mandates and 12 – 5AM curfews. That is what TCI has done with good effect.
Amen Danny, couldn’t have said it better..too easy to just blame the government.
People please go get vaccinated and stop complaining. The Government has done all it can. It is us that have not followed the public health rules or bothered to get vaccianted.
I don’t understand what benefit the pastors get by encouraging people not to get it.
They get paid to do funerals?
You Canadians… “Anyways” is not a word. Why do Canadians insist on using it? It is not cute at all.
Or blame the mother throwing the LF test away, people to lazy and selfish to do what is needed. If more were vaccinated it wouldn’t be ripping through the community! Sadly many are a victim of their own arrogance and stubbornness. Glad we have the new treatment here on island now, let’s see if they will take those or refuse that science as well.
I imagine she influenced hundreds, possibly thousands of others to follow her lead. Has she been punished in any way?
So 2/3 of those infected aren’t vaccinated. what a shock! Not.
And 86% that are in the hospital are unvaccinated
Wouldnt this make a better headline to describe the news today!
well said…instead of the constant hysteria spreading headlines.
It’s not hysteria. It’s cautionary and a warning. It’s only hysteria if A) You’re antivax
B) ProVax Invincible