Child hospitalised with COVID-19
(CNS): A child who was admitted to hospital Wednesday with COVID-19 was said to be “doing satisfactorily” on Thursday morning, according to Chief Medical Officer Dr John Lee, who issued a short video message. No details were given about the child’s condition as the CMO reported on the latest test results. Governor Martyn Roper said the “news that a very young child has tested positive and is in hospital will be a shock for the community”.
Along with four positive travellers who had been due to leave quarantine, a further five children were positive for the virus, though Public Health officials have not said which schools were involved. CNS understands that cases have been reported in at least two additional schools but has been unable to confirm the details. There are now more than a dozen schools reporting cases.
We are also still awaiting information on the number of households that are now isolating as a result of the school outbreaks. Government has not released information on individuals in isolation since last week, when 1,017 people were in quarantine and the figure has increased significantly since then.
Today’s additional positives have pushed the number of active cases of coronavirus to another new high of 132, with 62 people showing symptoms, including the hospitalised child.
Meanwhile, government continues to juggle with the spread of the virus through the school population, increasing mid-term break to two weeks and even longer for the John Gray and Clifton Hunter High Schools, which are both closed from today (Thursday). All the primary schools, the Further Education Centre and the Lighthouse School will close for their mid-term break on Monday until 25 October.
The premier has said that Cayman is learning to live with COVID and taking the lessons learned from unexpected community spread to pave the way forward, but it is evident that the education and public health systems are both struggling to cope with the spread of the virus through the schools.
According to the latest figures on the vaccine, 63 additional people received their first dose over the last day and another 151 completed the two-dose course, while 166 people have had a booster shot. The overall the national vaccination rate of the fully vaccinated stands at 74%, or 52,783 people.
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Since the pandemic began, the population fatality rate among children in the UK has been 1 in 660,000. That is 1 death out of every 660,000 infections. And that includes the period when there were not the therapeutic responses we have now, so the real child population fatality rate now is likely to be lower than 1 in 1 million. That makes Covid less dangerous to kids than flu. That means if every child in Cayman was infected, and none received any vaccine, there would be a 1% chance of 1 death among the whole child population. Perspective people, that is what we need.
Hold on there fella! Don’t start throwing out facts and statistics. I prefer social media hysteria to base my viewpoints on.
Covid hospitalizations have gone down significantly.
Lee Health [FL SW] treating fewer than 100 COVID-19 patients for first time since July.
https://www.winknews.com/2021/10/08/lee-health-treating-fewer-than-100-covid-19-patients-for-first-time-since-july/
Lee Health says it has 98 COVID-19 patients isolated in its hospitals on Friday. One death was reported on Thursday.
Since the start of the pandemic, 1,177 patients have died at Lee Health hospitals, with one death Thursday.
65% of ventilators and 11% of ICU rooms are available for use. There are 21 COVID-19 patients on ventilators and 17 in the intensive care unit.
Lets be careful here. Winter flue season just around the corner and Covid can raise its ugly head again,
Where is our flu vaccine, are we waiting for the UK taxpayer to donate this as well?.
The uk donate everything we rely on here
Flu vaccine always comes in free from the U.K. and towards the end of Oct annually.
Slow the severe overreaction expressed by some commenters. There have been hundreds of millions of infections in children so there is a deep dataset to provide insights in the relative risk to children of infection outcomes. Those details are broadly available, but the is risk is extremely low in children.
Every year (last year perhaps being an exception), children occasionally have briefly entered hospital in Cayman with flu.
Allowing people to work from home should be a part of learning to live with COVID. I’m surprised that after all the pandemic has taught us that we are still requiring people to come in to work. There is no need for us to be all up in each other’s face enabling community spread like this. Close down for 3 weeks and we’re back on track.
If some of the dinosaurs in these workplaces would allow more people to work from home instead of returning to business as normal we could reduce the spread of COVID in work environments.
We could also rotate online learning which would increase social distancing in schools. Each tutorial group is divided in two and online learning (attend class via zoom) is rotated weekly. This will allow teachers to increase social distancing between children during class, thus, reducing the spread of COVID.
For this to work, businesses that are not client-facing or essential should be more relaxed about where people get the job done. Because really, why do you care if the work is getting done and our children are learning in SAFE environments?
Just a thought
It’s the lazy ones that take advantage of working from home that ruin it for everyone else.
4.43pm We all know to whom you are referring.
No “we” don’t. Please, I would welcome details regarding both your assertations. Thanks.
Most employers do let people work from home or office and choose.
Hopefully the kid recovers quickly. In other news, very positive that the UK no longer require a PCR test within 3 days of departure to travel through Nassau to London, and you can just do a home lateral flow on day 2 with no quarantine at all still. Great how easy and restriction free it now is for us to travel to Europe. Cayman could learn a lot.
But from Cayman still have to do PCR test when no amber list exists anymore so Bahamas, UK and Cayman all same now. The lateral flow test in UK does not come into effect til around of October, according to BBC news yesterday. Just need to drop quarantine in Cayman now and we will be up and running with lateral flow tests here.
People cannot be quarantined based solely on a “positive” PCR test. In Portugal, thanks to a court decision that ruled that the evidence was inherently unreliable and therefore fraudulent for policy-making purposes. Citing Jaafar et al. 2020, the court determined that the PCR test produces variable results based on an individual’s viral load as well as the number of cycles used. In its conclusion, the court wrote that:
“… If someone is tested by PCR as positive when a threshold of 35 cycles or higher is used (as is the rule in most laboratories in Europe and the US), the probability that said person is infected is less than 3%, and the probability that said result is a false positive is 97%. ”
greatgameindia.com/portuguese-court-pcr-tests-unreliable
It depends on the law of the individual country, I don’t think Portugal has jurisdiction everywhere!
The comparison with flu is pure disinformation. Covid is not flu.
who do you respond to?
Disinformation Rubbish and utterly irrelevant in Cayman.
Yes, you can find this rubbish posted on lots of fake news sites, but nowhere sane or credible. If you believe that, you can fly to Portugal. Good luck.
The Governor told you how it got here, you just didn’t listen.
People need to understand that this community spread is certainly due to inadequate quarantine in one form or other. That is true whether the inadequate quarantine is a result of:
1) the government saying it is OK to leave quarantine after 5 days when the viral incubation period is 14 days,
2) people in quarantine interacting with others outside of quarantine while they are still infectious, or
3) infected people coming in drug boats and interacting with criminals here.
To the virus it is all the same – a free pass to fresh meat.
The governor told you where it came from. Hint: it wasn’t reduced quarantine.
Those pesky expats and their canoe trips to Jamaica!
11.58am Maybe, but who is it they meet with after they arrive back with their “cargo” – certainly not expats,but our home grown, mostly anti-vaxers.
Actually HE did not say that at all. He offered a possibility.
Or ppl leaving here on drug run and returning with the virus as is the case in North side
Too many assumptions being made with zero information.
It is possible that this child has a condition such as severe asthma which would have cause him/her to be hospitalized with something as minor as a cold…. As there have been dozens of other children test positive and then recover at home with little to no illness/symptoms at this point, I’m inclined to think this is a rare instance, because there have been no other seriously I’ll children (and we don’t have any indication that this child is seriously I’ll either…children with asthma are frequently hospitalized in order to give nebulizer treatments while they recover from respiratory illness/viruses).
Let’s not jump straight to the worst case scenario before we have any facts.
I agree- no reason to panic. It is not that unusual that kids are hospitalised with the flu/colds etc- my own otherwise 100% healthy kid was for treatment for breathing issues with a cold and he was fine the next day. Most parents have had a trip or two to the hospital with their kids for one reason or another.
So damn insensitive to this situation just to suite your agenda, shame on you!
How old and is the kid vaccinated? That’s pretty pertinent information. Should we assume the child is vaccinated because if unvaccinated they would have triumphantly announced it?
CNS: Silly question. “Very young child” = not vaccinated, since the vaccines are not yet approved for children under 12.
The reason they do not vaccinate children is because thus far the risks outweigh the vaccine. The young childred more at risk from getting sick from the vaccine than the flu itself since their immune response can deal with Covid much better than adults.
But I’m sure Pantoon will find a way to force expat children to get injected as well. Because as we all know, Covid only spreads through expats.
All those in the ‘learn to live with it’ camp, do you have a young child? Can you imagine how you would feel if your child was in hospital struggling to breathe, feeling like they were drowning. Would you think this was an acceptable sacrifice so some wealthy business owners could make some extra money from that child’s suffering?
We were all doing just fine before quarantine on trust, we were all happy with no covid, our kids were healthy, schools and businesses were open, parents were at work, no one was sick, we had no masks, life was easy, there was no stress.
And now how do we feel?
We had something so valuable before, something unique to offer those who were willing to quarantine to come here to safety, and we threw it all away.
Are those tourist dollars ending up directly in your pocket?
Is it really worth what we’ve now lost?
And before you all start bitching, yes, I am vaccinated, and no I’ve not worked since March last year, no I don’t claim the stipend.
Then you are wealthy enough to survive in your isolated paradise… many many people are not so lucky
I am not wealthy by a looooong shot — in fact, just barely making it, after Covid compromises — and I agree completely with 12:37.
Isn’t it a shame this needs to be said: Yes, I’m vaccinated, and no, I’m not getting any financial aid. As if those qualifiers make a person’s opinion more or less important. So disgusted with some of the discourse these days.
Yes, many of us do have children that get very sick at times. And many of us even have asthma which makes it incredibly difficult to breath when we get the normal flu. But we don’t ask to shutdown the entire country.
@9:29
Stupid parallel!
Sadly CIG cannot afford to stay closed indefinitely.
What’s the child in hospital for?
Good grief.
To rationalize overreach.
Good question. In hospital and with covid or in hospital because of covid are two very different things.
Or lax border controls and a vibrant drug trade?
People being tested at the end of their quarantine are testing positive. If they were vaccinated people – what is the basis of the government to state they will re-open the borders to verified vaccinated tourists without quarantine? Just so COVID can be freely circulated in the community further? Then clearly they are prioritizing livelihood (aka profits for the hotel owners) over lives.
Hope and pray for the child to recover soon.
This govt. is going to rely on lsteral flow or other rapid test when the test kits are received in a couple,weeeks. – for the purposes of keeping the schools open, etc. BUT how reliable are those tests? Do they show positive results only when the viral load is high? Which would mean a bit advanced in infection? And the person could still spread as it would not be detected by these tests in earlier stages, and hence not required to isolate.
Are the dislikes from people who don’t wish the child well, or people who don’t want the government to understand the cause of the outbreak or people who don’t care?
Obviously completely agree re the child recovering, but I don’t think the 5 day quarantine change caused the community spread. The first cases were identified on the day or just before the 14 day to 5 day change came in on sept 9…. So anyone leaving quarantine as the first 5 Dayers would have left quarantine 5 days after the outbreak. The timing is just a coincidence. No Covid policy was never realistic and we were always going to have spread regardless of policy…. Look at New Zealand. Thought they could keep it out but was never going to be possible.
The change to 5 days was in June, not Sept, so we have had 5-day for months.
Maybe if the majority of kids (including my own) put down their iPads, phones, PlayStation’s, xBoxes etc and played out, exercised, got filthy, ate dirt under their finger nails they wouldn’t be the bunch of pu$$ies, morbidly obese kids with an immune system equivalent to someone with the early onset of AIDS that they are.
Tell me you’re a jaded, ignorant boomer without telling me you’re a boomer.
Facts are not easily acceptable to you.
Name-calling me a “boomer” is just fine.
Not angry enough to call you “jaded” or “ignorant” though.
Some adults have to remain in this chat room.
I’m not sure what “facts” you’ve come across to think that a stronger lean in technology for the younger generation leads to less-capable immune systems than kids in your generation.
Your lashing out because children in this generation don’t act the same as they did in your hay day and so you prefer to push the blame on their usage of electronic devices. So yes, you are ignorant to how germs work and how the immune system of an individual operates. A change in generational activities more suited to technology has nothing to do with it.
You can’t possibly call yourself an adult while having those misguided views, grow up and change with the times cause it’s certainly not holding our for you.
maybe if you did a better job as a parent?
Maybe if abortion were legal (my body, my choice), I wouldn’t need to worry about that.
To 7:26pm: Your comment is utterly deplorable. The disdain, the contempt, the total lack of positive input to the topic at hand. Truly, no added value whatsoever.
You’re morbid to write such! You must not like kids at all – what have they done to you?
Straight talk..
Vaccinated people do not need to quarantine. The rate of spreading covid for the vaccinated is extremely low. Wear a mask when you can’t social distance. How many times does this have to be said? Get vaccinated. Those are your best chances for protecting yourself and your young children.
I am fully vaxxed and so is my family. I agree that getting vaxxed is our best chance for protecting yourself and your young children. However, vaxxed people can still catch and spread Covid. Even in Cayman several hundred fully vaxxed people have tested positive for Covid on the quarantine exit PCR tests. If those people had not been quarantined they would have been spreading Covid.
7.52am I and my family are all fully vaxed but we are also fully vexed with those that are not.
I agree that people should get vaxxed but your statement that vaccinated people do not need to quarantine to protect others is dangerously wrong. Vaxxed travelers are testing positive for Covid almost every day in Cayman and around the world.
Extremely low rate of spread for the vaccinated BUT NOT NIL. You seem to want to roll the dice.
Its actually not extremely low at all. After a couple of months spread is almost the same as unvaccinated.
If you don’t believe me check the news this week which reports the results of just released studies.
Thank you, doctor. What would we do without your expertise?
What are the numbers on that rate of spread?
I’m vaccinated but the truth is vaccinated spread the virus the same as unvaccinated in the beginning. However, we have a lower viral load quicker than an unvaccinated person. As for the lateral tests, they only test for high viral loads so the person can still have Covid and the lateral test doesn’t pick it up. Of course, the person is less likely to spread the virus when the viral load is low.
There is no evidence of this. It is just as likely that an unvaccinated person could have infected someone as a result of a quarantine breach. They never connected the initial positives to a traveller.
Dummy – quarantine breach is a form of reduction in quarantine. Quarantine means that incoming travelers should not interact with others until they have been shown not to have the virus at the end of the incubation period.
I can’t believe that people still don’t understand that to the virus quarantine breach is the same as a government sponsored reduction in quarantine. Both allow infected people to interact with the community when they should not.
And so it starts … God help us.
He got you in to this mess in the first place.
and apparently created the virus 30,000 years ago, with all the variants (no evolution), and then must be gradually releasing a new variant every 6 months.
I blame Noah, for letting all these viruses on his Arc.
Best comment, EVER
What kind of God creates phlegm and causes incontinence in people?
Just like it’s God’s fault we have climate change.
Singapore has a vaccination rate of over 80% and this week has had to pause its reopening due to a surge in Covid and multiple deaths. Hopefully government is taking this type of information on board.
A child admitted to hospital with the covid don’t sound promising at all and don’t look good either,speedy recovery to that child
In before the “learn to live with it” cabal!
Is this acceptable to the cabal? Is flinging open the doors to the border worth this?
Except the borders weren’t even opened.
The borders have been open for months – lots of people are traveling and going shopping and have been for months. With the reduction in quarantine to 5 days so has the virus and that is why we are at this situation.
Exactly, so imagine the effect is they were.
I agree. The sooner we ban children the better
The government governs by consent…I don’t think they will have consent for much longer if our freedoms continue to be impugned.
They were duly elected. They don’t need your “consent” for another three and a half years. In three and a half years, if things are more or less back to normal by then, having some freedoms “impugned” now won’t matter to most voters. However, having dead family members because of their decisions to bow to the desires of Dart, CITA and expats who don’t like the fact that they have to quarantine after their vacations, will matter. In that context, it’s politically expedient for the government to move with extreme caution, particularly right now as Delta takes hold in the community.
You better Google “consent of the governed”. Then we can talk.
1) In a democratic society, your ivory tower political philosophies are rectified by only elections or revolution. Are you threatening the latter?
2) You are stating theory. In the real world it works differently. For example, in the United States, more than two thirds of the population supports a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion. Yet that right is curtailed for political expediency in many states.
3) You are arrogant to think that you – almost assuredly not indigenous to Cayman – speak for the public.
4) Suck it up buttercup. The island will open up soon enough and the freedoms you feel are impugned will be restored. Meanwhile, the country will do what is necessary to protect the lives of its older citizens and children. Enough of your histrionics!
You’re deluded if you believe most voters are happy with how Pact have handled the last few months.
You’re even more deluded if you believe only Dart, CITA and Expats alone are the only people who want their freedom back.
Get out from under your bed and check ‘expedient’ in a dictionary.
Time is definitely longer than rope when it comes to politics. Three and a half years from now, no one will be talking about the freedoms lost because of the government’s actions to deal with COVID-19. However, should the loved ones of voters die because PACT mismanages the reopening of Cayman, voters will certainly make them pay. I know what expediency means – do you? And by the way… you should pick a new hero other than a racist tyrant.
So you already know what people will not be talking about in 3 1/2 years time. Absolute genius.
You haven’t been paying attention, Pact have already mismanaged their opening date. It was October 14th with no quarantine. Do you remember that?
One more thing. Can you tell us how many people in Cayman will have died from Covid from today until January 1st.
Thank you.
Exactly!
Weren’t elected by the majority of people here
They were duly elected by the process laid out in the Elections Law. End of discussion.
They absolutely need the people’s consent, including those people who did not / could not vote for them. Otherwise it becomes just a dictatorship, and there are numerous examples from history as to how that ends (Mussolini, Ceausescu, Gadaffi etc).
Only expats vacation?
Good lord – does EVERYTHING with some people have to come back to anti-expat sentiment?
It’s boring, particularly when so much of the government’s budget is funded by expats.
The premier has said that Cayman is learning to live with COVID.
So is the rest of the world but we’re going to be different?
I don’t buy this koolaid the government is selling.
Foñlow the $
Until boosters arrive and are widely available, I’d feel better with masks, and a return of the concept of 6ft. But that would probably make too much sense.
and full quarantine
only those who stand at 6feet and higher are allowed out of quarantine?
A few minutes ago it was announced in the US that in the short time federal vaccine mandates have been in effect the number of unvaccinated persons in the US has decreased by 1/3. Too bad that is not something PACT will even consider, even for the sake of the children.
No, because only non-caymanians will get covid.
I don’t give in to coercion.
Stubborn just for the sake of being stubborn
This was going to happen from the day they announced that quarantine for incoming travelers was going to be reduced.
Please provide proof that this is the case! Conjecture is not helpful and certainly won’t stop the ‘blame’ cultural that is getting ugly and vitriolic.
Its obvious. The incubation period for the virus is 14 days+. When people are released from quarantine before that, some will be infectious and will spread the virus into our community.
Ah I’m glad it’s so obvious where officials don’t know the source. Maybe you can point to the specific traveller so they may be publicly flogged 🙄
Conjecture, logic, best case scenario are all in the mix when the data is unclear. Where do you think the breach occurred? Go on, take your best guess.
If the current outbreak is due to the reduction in quarantine to 5 days then we would have had our first community case back in June – not 3 months later in September
We did. HSA stopped testing over the summer.
The length of quarantine was not the relevant factor, it was the quarantine breaches that were the main issue. When people don’t respect the rules of quarantine and receive visitors at their home (to play dominoes etc) it’s no wonder the virus got out.
So who were responsible for the breaches? Maybe CIG and the lack of any enforcement or consequences?
6.35pm It’s not expats inviting friends to play dominoes at their quarantined residence neither is it expat children who are suffering from the current Delta outbreak.
I have thought of doing an FOI asking for information on the air handling system at my child’s school and in particular asking for information how often the stale air that these days may contain aerosolized Covid is vented and fresh outside air is added. I decided that it is probably better just to teach them myself as I am not convinced that the school even understands the issue.
Or the gyms .. I wonder how often the AC filters are changed?
I have had a beef with the whole AC thing from day 1. At our school, windows are never opened, AC is ridiculously cool, and playtime outside has been minimalized. There are easy ways to help mitigate infections of various kinds, not to mention save government money. Please can we consider these?
I’d worry about microscopic ultra fine particles from the Dump fires that contaminate a/c systems, penetrate deep into one’s lungs, not “ aerosolized Covid”
I have taken 12 long distance flights in the last 18 months, have yet to catch that elusive Covid.
I have a feeling which school you are referring to and trust me, the school understands the issue. The problem is getting the matter addressed by DES. Did you know that school doesn’t even have windows that can open?!
In years gone by it was common to put children and other people of low value to the governing elite at the forefront of battles as ‘cannon fodder’. I thought that we had moved past that.
Another bobo comment.
Nope, we are clearly still in the those days evident in how school are used as breeding grounds to test some theory. I say so because PH is usually spot on in their procedures but allowing possible positive to return to schools pending results is fishy.
cig should mandate that only kids with vaccinated parents can attend school.
Oh shut the f*** up. You can still get snd spread Covid to all the other ones.
But of course it’s less likely.
Far less likely to spread though. Kids should be warned to stay well clear of unvaccinated adults.
Especially those in white vans offering free candy.
Why only white vans? That seems borderline racist.
I’ve never heard of a pedophile operating from a rainbow colored van – just saying!
That’s not entirely true. Only about 0.5% of fully vaccinated people become infected (and potentially capable of spreading the virus to others). That 1 out of every 200 vaccinated people. So while fully vaccinated people technically *can* be infected and spread the virus to others, this happens on a very small scale compared to the level of transmission in unvaccinated persons. I think this is a key point that many in Cayman are missing.
See: https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/covid-19-in-virginia/covid-19-cases-by-vaccination-status/
and you still don’t understand facts:
unvaxxed get covid easier and spread it more easily.
this in turn pput more people at risk and puts our health service at risk.
its why the rest of the developed world has restrictions in place for unvaxxed.
I find it hard to believe anyone with kids is unvaccinated, what a terrible parental choice that would be
Nooooo, that would mean that only kids of non-caymanians will be able to attend schools. That would be discrimination against caymanians who are not being forced to take the vaccine.
Tbh i would prefer to know that my child is attending school with kids from vaccinated homes.
that would certainly sort out the problem, traveler coming in could quarantine with them
With the school A/C systems the way they are and school windows sealed with one infected child or teacher you get ‘Covid in a box’ in which the disease spreads rapidly. The government must have understood that.
Have your child wear a mask. Schools should invest in Hepa air filters. Social distance the desks.
Social distance the desk? What a joke….when was the last time you spent a week inside a school and in classes just going through a normal school day?
Agreed. What happened to fresh air?
PACT banned it.
It’s too hot in the summer time.
A vaccine is going to be available for children 5 – 11 shortly. Sad that this was ignored when the decision was made to reduce quarantine from 14 to 5 days despite all the evidence that what is happening now would be the result.
Maybe the quarantine breaches should have been prosecuted immediately to the full extent of the law, but no that’s only reserved for the likes of skylar mack
If the law says 2years and $10,000 there should be NO EXCEPTIONS!!
18 months (for “good behaviour”) and 5-10 years to pay off the fine and there would be NO ONE stupid enough to chance quarantine violations!! Enforce with THE FULL penalty and see what it produces. Cayman courts are a JOKE with concurrent sentencing for multiple offences. Consecutive is the only way to reduce crime and recidivism!! Throw the book at violators.
1.50pm How many Caymanians have been prosecuted?.
Don’t be sad, you’ll be alright.
Will it even matter? If people won’t vaccinate themselves to help protect their family, they probably won’t vaccinate their children. And if PACT won’t even mandate teachers get vaccinated, I doubt they’ll mandate it for students.
“US researchers say teenagers are more likely to get vaccine-related myocarditis than end up in hospital with Covid”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study
That study isn’t peer-reviewed yet and other studies have shown different results.
It could be correct but much of the misinformation out there has come from pre-prints and non-reviewed studies.
Oh and by the way that was from the CDC
I know way too many doctors that have seen the exact same thing. The risk of the vaccine is not necessary for them – especially young men with their entire lives in front of them.
I stand with Dr. T!
Can teenagers spread myocarditis as they can with COVID??? and don’t go one about well even if they get vaccinated they can still contract and spread the disease. YES perhaps but at a much lower statistical rate and if others are vaccinated then even lower maor health issues .
I have also cherry picked other information that says:
“What is already known about this topic?
Viral infections are a common cause of myocarditis. Some studies have indicated an association between COVID-19 and myocarditis.
What is added by this report?
During March 2020–January 2021, patients with COVID-19 had nearly 16 times the risk for myocarditis compared with patients who did not have COVID-19, and risk varied by sex and age.”
This has now been updated
trust in stats….132 cases…one person in hospital.
I don’t understand, was the child hospitalized WITH covid or BECAUSE of covid? Its kind of ambiguous.
1/132 x 70,000 = as many as 530 people
you realize that all of the population is not going to be infected and certainly not all at once…
scale up to 70,000 people comes to 530 potential hospitalisations.
How many beds and respirators are in Cayman?
Are you trying to frighten people with this silly and illogical comment?
It isn’t as if everyone will get Covid, certainly not all at the same time.
The spread doesn’t happen like that and a highly vaccinated population provides a strong level of protection against bad outcomes. Further it is not as if public health will just ignore what is going on in the population. If spread becomes concerning public health measures will be tightened.
Also if people start to get a more personal understanding of the effects of Covid-19 the level of vaccination will also increase.
So please take two minutes to think about this with some semblance of logic.
“if people start to get a more personal understanding of the effects of Covid-19 the level of vaccination will also increase”
so you’re going with the placebo effect, lol, look at the level of protection from the vaccine and the people who thought they were being given the vaccine,
Oddly the vaccine was far more effective than the placebo.
Please do more research yourself before calling other out.
good try…but try harder and you will get to some real numbers. your biggest mistake is not accoutning for our huge vax rate…especially in the most at risk groups
cayman will experience future deaths from covid there is no way of getting around it. over the next 18 months its likely that around 15 people will die with covid.
you cannot escape statistics.
Math??
I am so sorry that this child is paying the price for the greed and indifference of others.
I agree. All the children should pay
Who cares say those demanding opening at any cost as they press the ‘ZZZZZZ’ button.
Truly psychopathic people are among us
its quite shocking isn’t it?
Having been convinced by the reasoning of earlier posts on another thread, I blame this hospitalization on testing. If government stopped all testing for Covid everyone would have perfect health and all motor vehicle accidents would also stop.
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This and the OP are both really good sarcastic responses. Very well constructed. On the other hand, because Trump said something in his usual inept way, it became dismissed by many on that basis alone. But he actually had a very interesting point that, because it came from the Cheeto in Chief, got glossed over and missed. His point wasn’t that we should not test – his point was that for the first time in history, we were testing broadly and pervasively on people who had no symptoms. If we, for instance, were to do the same level of testing for the influenza virus across the population including those who are non-symptomatic – the # of positive tests would probably shock everyone. I am pretty sure, right now, in fact that if we could simultaneously test the entire population of CI (and if we could trust the results were accurate – which lately is in question) you would likely see that there are a LOT of people walking around who are positive for COVID and don’t even know it. That is the nature of viruses like these. And not to lose the original point – but prior to this we never tested unless there was symptoms – so the Cheeto had a point.. just really poorly worded. When you expand your testing x10k more than normal and test everyone, you WILL see more positives.. go figure.
You’re right, of course, but …
Some of the dipshits that form a large part of the so-called “Republican base” took his poorly worded comments to mean COVID-19 wouldn’t exist if there were no testing and therefore, they didn’t have to/shouldn’t have to follow any prevention mandates.
And, to the OP’s sarcastic point, hospitalisations have nothing to do with testing.
Now… let the sarcasm continue to the amusement of those who can appreciate it!
vax rate has stalled again and the carrot approach is another huge failure for pact.
to get people vaccinated they need to bring in vax passport system for the people socialise in public places….
this has been a huge success in all other developed countries.
Pretty soon you’ll be endorsing shutting down the internet of the unvaccinated, and after that, who knows? Do you look good in a uniform?
And Godwin’s law is once again demonstrated.
Vax rates have stalled because all the expats have gotten their vaccine. The remaining percentage of the population does not have to take the vaccine. I hope the government will realise this too and open the borders.
Another of the consequences/collateral damage of reducing quarantine. Hopefully the child will be OK but I have to ask how many more children and adults will be hospitalized in pursuit of the tourist dollar?
How about actually respecting quarantine? The law fearing residents of this island have done their part, as for the others that feel like they are beyond the reach of prosecution, not so much.
FULL SENTENCE FOR ALL VIOLATIONS!!
Problem solved!
2.01pm So what has happened to the school mother who went on selling food at building sites after being quarantined and her husband who went to a night club?.