3,000 vaccines set to expire in three weeks
(CNS): Another three thousand people need to come forward and have their first COVID-19 shot over the next three weeks if Cayman is to avoid wasting any of its vaccine supplies that are due to expire at the end of June. According to public health officials, after an adjustment to their historical data the true number of doses administered to date is slightly more than has been reported. The current number of people who have had their first injection is now 40,778, or 63% of the estimated population, while 53% have now completed the two dose course.
Meanwhile, all of the COVID tests carried out over the last day were negative. There are 18 active cases of the virus among those currently in government quarantine or home isolation, none of whom are suffering from symptoms of the coronavirus.
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How wonderful to have confirmation that stupidity and faith in the flying spaghetti monster are still here in Cayman in abundance!
I will bet as soon as the government announces our re-opening that these same anti-vaxxers will be the first to complain that we are opening too early.
At this point, as much as I wouldn’t wish covid on my worst enemy, I am through with these people now. Let them take whatever comes. We cannot be held hostage anymore waiting on them. I can only hope and pray that no one ends up dying from it.
Nope. You could’ve opened back in October 2020!!
Well, if you aren’t going to use those doses, could you please ship them back to the UK (or somewhere else in the Caribbean that can make use of them). Vaccines are in short supply worldwide, as others have noted.
The UK is vaccinating around 400-600,000 people a day, depending on when the supplies are available. Even our local doctor’s surgery is managing 3000 a week.
Locally, first-dose uptake in the over-40s is at 93%, but we also have the problem of low uptake and poor compliance with social distancing/ hygiene measures within certain mindsets and communities.
On the other hand, the evidence is clear that the vaccines are working. Deaths are down to single figures each day (from a peak of around 2000/day) and new cases are around 2500/day (from a peak of > 67,000 in one day). The fly in the ointment is the highly-transmissible Indian variant, which is now in the country and spreading fast. Fingers crossed that the vaccine is effective against it (initial indications are good, thankfully).
I’m not saying this to boast about the UK effort (others are making similar efforts), but to try to illustrate the level of vaccination and the degree of effort that is needed to achieve herd immunity and to ensure that everyone’s sacrifices over the last year and a half don’t go to waste, just because a small number are too selfish. lazy or just too frightened to get vaccinated
Thanks so much! I am a Caymanian and I feel ashamed about how or people have squandered not only the vaccine but literally a gift that many other countries are literally dying to get.
Agreed! Well said. I am appalled by the people not wanting to take this incredibly effective vaccination. Vaccinations work. End of story!
All Front Line employees should be vaccinated. Those include ALL medical staff, tourism staff … e.g. Taxi drivers etc.
All persons on “work-permits” should get the vaccine too.
If they refuse, then Govt. should also refuse to give them Work Permits too.
Taxi drivers who refuse should have their Taxi licence taken away, because, when the island re-opens, Taxi will be some of the first to be in contact with overseas travellers.
Work Permit holders will probably be returning to their home country for vacation, then returning to Cayman a few weeks later Asymptomatic with the virus.
The same way Government made Rules & Regulations re “Lock-downs” “Curfews” etc. The Government will need to take some drastic steps enforcing people to take the vaccine before thousands expire.
Totally agree!
You’re totally right. We should round them all up and keep them in an abandoned building with nothing to listen to but T-Pain, and nothing to eat but bullas, until they agree to click their heels and comply.
Well said, Komrade.
Make them watch a continuous loop of Dwayne Seymour at the COVID press conferences – that should do it!!
Get your vaccine….or don’t! I am cool with you choosing not to get it BUT then you have to be cool with us vaccinated folks getting perks like re-opened borders!!!
If you choose to not get the vaccine you can’t then say “we need to keep the borders closed to be safe” as you’ve turned down the single most effective way of staying safe!
Don’t think anybody is saying that. Think everybody wants the borders opened vaccinated or not.
Yep but the unvaccinated will still have to quarantine if we open..I seriously doubt we are opening the flood gates to the unvaccinated. If that was the case we would have opened already..
I’m worried about those here without the vaccine because it will only take one or two to die and there will be a call for another shutdown.
Obviously the unvaccinated should have to quarantine. They shouldn’t however be part of the consideration for the-opening as they have had months and months to get a vaccine.
7:02 People ARE saying that! Numerous people have posted on CNS about Cayman needing to stay closed because “we don’t need tourists” and then gone on to say they won’t get/haven’t gotten vaccine.
The easiest way to get this done is stop vaccinating after June 9. Everybody has had ample time to get the vaccine if they wanted it. After June 9, if anyone wants a vaccine they either go overseas to get it or let the doctors offices or hospital bring in supplies and charge for the shot.
It is ridiculous to be held hostage by these conspiracy theorists any longer. Billions of people around the world have taken the vaccine, over 40K of us here have taken it since January,almost six months ago without any of us dying or having our built in monitors go off or any of the other stupid theories that have been spread around. Coronavirus cases are falling off in those countries that now have access to the vaccine and here we are, a country with a small population and an overabundance of vaccine that other countries are literally dying for and we are just being ungrateful and downright ignorant..
“Billions” of people ??? Wow.. what a fat inflated number!
Billions have taken it… about 400 million shots in uk and us alone
If you believe it is inflated why don’t you to your research, I think you will find that is correct….and please don’t be searching for it on FOX News, Facebook, Youtube or any of the fake news and conspiracy theories providers..
To be fair, current estimate world wide is 1.62 billion innoculated, so not far off “billions”. At the current rate it will only takes a few more weeks to get to 2 billion
Territory…
Those remaining to get vaccinated should be ashamed of themselves if:
1. On work permit and think you are irreplacable;
2. Have no underlined health issue(s) and just think that you’re immume to COVID-19;
3. You think you are invincible;
4. You are an anti-vaccine bible bashing idiot;
5. You’re child minded and prefer to wait until you have to pay for it yourself later because free stuff isn’t kool.
Get the vaccine Cayman! Ask anyone from India, Brazil or even Mexico if they would be hesitant to get it.
Please do not be selfish and ungrateful. Both qualities are not admirable and should never be emulated by anyone.
Why do we allow HSA & Pines nurses – who work with our most vulnerable to pass on the vaccine???
Over 600 staff at the hospital and 60 at The Pines, but they balk at the jab???
Hello BOARD OF DIRECTORS – 30 years ago you did not need a HIV or Chest X-ray for a work permit, but we all put it into practice for employment contacts to keep our community safe…..what is the difference?
We learned the hard way in March 2020 when “health city” was hit by the first case of COVID-19 that our Frontline-staff are the most at risk so who is watching the shop and why are the employees of our healthcare system not vaccinated?
I am so upset to hear that our healthcare leaders are allowing employees to create this gap of reasonable healthcare precautions.
Dr Lee- Please go talk to the hospital employees and the Pines employees in person and change this mindset we beg you
Just shut up and MYOB! Be grateful smarty-pants, there’s someone to take care of you when you get sick.
But that’s the point, isn’t it?! These nurses might get covid and then who’ll look after you then??
Kindly, understand, it is against my faith. I believe I am created with an immune system to fight viruses, and with the common sense to make sound decisions as to how I can strengthen my immune system to fight. I don’t believe I should trust in man-made vaccines to do so. My faith is in the power within me. And its not being selfish. For how can I love others if I don’t love myself first? Also, I want nothing to do with vaccine developers that uses aborted stem cells in their research and testing. Abortion is a great evil, and I want nothing at all to deal with it. Sorry, if you don’t like my faith. I don’t even trust pastors and ministers over my conscience. You may open the borders anytime you like. And you may have me fired from my job. I also have the right to die the way I want. So be my guest – open the borders. Shalom 🙂
You don’t even have to explain. It’s my right not to take it. Period!
Amazing that in this life that people like yourselves are so indoctrinated.
This foolishness about rights and faith and conspiracy theories are a bunch of crock and you know it.
I believe that God rewards those who put considerable effort into bettering their lives and the lives of those in their community. This isn’t just me and you but the doctors, virologists, hospital staff and all those that are working to eradicate this awful virus which has killed hundreds of thousands of people around the world.
When I hear this crap, I always have to ask if you have every had a loved one die from this awful disease. My mother-in-law caught the virus and succumbed to it. My wife could only sit here in Cayman and watch her die a little each day laying in a hospital bed alone and attached to a ventilator. She couldn’t even attend her funeral. The grief has scarred her for life.
Understand that the world does not revolve around you only. We were all put on this earth to help each other. We are social beings and when something like this occurs we should not be so selfish and only think of ourselves but should pull together and do whatever we can to help particularly those that are more susceptible to catching the virus.
6:45 pm, long time civil servant, so why do you go to Doctor when you are sick, why not stick to your faith and pray and stay away from Doctors ?
This is very sad. But I’m thankful there weren’t more people like this when the vaccines for small pox, polio, whooping cough etc etc came out. Also antibiotics, penicillin and all other modern medicines.
Long time civil servant – I bet your idoesn’t stop you from seeing doctors. How much taxpayer’s hardearned money have you spent on many years of free medical treatment?.
And who said Neanderthals are not among us?
Ever been to West Bay?
I think you’re right! COVID-19 is a virus created by God and therefore by extension, any attempt by man to counter God’s virus by vaccines must be against his wishes.
We must praise God in all his wisdom and majesty because there must be a reason why he wanted to cause international chaos and be responsible for over 3 million deaths from the virus…
LOL! The mighty sky god of zero logic. But just have faith, it’s all part of the “plan”
WTAF?????
That’s no bother when you’re opening up the borders on your own private island rock. Don’t impose your views and in this case stupidity on the world
I doubt whether there are many work permit holders who have not been vaccinated. When I went to the ORIA for both my vaccines, the overwhelming majority in the queue were foreigners – hardly any Caymanians!
I’m part of the population in Cayman. I voted in person in the April election. I’ve had the Jansen vaccine because my father is in Hospice and I can’t be home all of the time. Do I count as part of the population that has been vaccinated? And there must be others like me overseas due to family obligations. Are they counted? As a matter of fact two of my friends, long time Caymanians are overseas and vaccinated. Also on the travel cayman site, you cannot change your vaccine status. I’m registered as not being vaccinated and can’t change that until after I quarantine next week even though I am fully vaccinated.
If someone has not got the jabs by now, they are not getting it. Shut down the awesome airport Vaccination facility at the end of June and we can say we have done our best.
July 1, anyone fully vaccinated can enter with a test before, and a test on arrival.
It’s extremely unlikely that a vaccinated person will pass the virus to a vaccinated person.
Any outbreak or community spread, serious illness or death will be minimal as the majority of the country has taken the shots.
Time to move on.
Got to love that quote: “any death will be minimal.”
Not to their family. Will their small sacrifice have been worthwhile so that you can avoid working from a laptop and watching Netflix for 10 days?
The onus should be on the people who wont get vaccinated because they are preventing us from reaching herd immunity and helping to keep everyone in the community safe. That is why we should be encouraging everyone in our family to get vaccinated.
5:18: Then have their family tell them to get their vaccines! Pretty easy, straightforward way to avoid illness/death.
Keeping the borders closed for a while longer is even more effective way to avoid illness/death.
Time for UK to move on too and let us vaccinated visit family witbout paying for quarantine/isolation.
Are 12 – 15 year olds approved for the vaccine? If not, speed up the process now!
The US has already approved the Pfizer vaccine for 12 – 15 year olds…
We have to wait for UK medical board to approve for 12-15 years old nevermind what America say.
Why then don’t we follow British Blood bank rules.
I mean there’s more mad cows in the US than the UK.
We can star with Marjorie Greene.
Never understood why the HSA couldn’t accept blood donations from expat Brits and simply mark it as such – only to be given to other expat Brits. Would free up blood supplies free from BSE risk for others – especially rare blood types.
I have known the odd mad cow here in Cayman over the years.
I married a couple.
Is covid dangerous for 12 to 15 year olds? What is the death rate for kids from covid?
CNS: See CDC – Children & teens can get COVID-19
The CI government should offer the vaccine for free up until the expiration date of these vaccines onhand after this date anyone wanting to get vaccinated should have to pay and charge them dearly. This is providing that the UK will agree to supply Cayman with more vaccinations knowing that some of the original vaccinations were allowed o expire.
Let’s see if UK provide six month booster for free…
They would have to if they are giving it to Brits for free.
Friends,
It is time to open up!
Too many Caymanians are suffering from mental stress and anguish from being travel restricted.
Many of the weekend car accidents are caused by drunk driving and reckless behavior by persons who have no hope for a free life again!
The mental and emotional this isolation will have on us for generations to come is incalculable.
Now that all persons on islands who have wished to be vaccinated have done so, it is time time to reopen and restore freedom to Caymanians!
Seriously, these people would be drunk and crashing whether we are open or closed. Don’t conflate anti social behavior with a totally unrelated situation smh
9:51am, NOT TRUE
“Isolation” “no hope for a free life again” 😀 😀
We are in a safety bubble. I understand folks that want to throw the doors open, come what may, but to characterise our local accidents and drunk driving as a causation of that horrible oppressive angst felt by not being able to go on weekender shopping binges is laughable.
What a horrible, disgusting comment! Totally disrespectful to those passed and their families. And you talking about ‘mental stress’ and ‘anguish’ from travel restriction?
‘Many of the weekend car accidents are caused by drunk driving and reckless behavior by persons who have no hope for a free life again!’- Who exactly are you referring to?
‘The mental and emotional this isolation will have on us for generations to come is incalculable.’- You have not even had to wear a mask – what isolation?
‘Restore freedom to Caymanians’ – Hope you are young enough to learn and grow.
Ordure. It’s the Caymanians that won’t take the vaccine cos ‘god’ said so. So it’s their own fault!
9:51 it’s a lot of you foreign assholes who haven’t taken it. I, a CAYMANIAN have taken it and so have my peers. It is the foreigners I work with who won’t take it
Maybe know something you don’t know regarding medical issues. Listen to them.
That kind of talk is unnecessary. You want to persuade WP holders and other foreigners to get vaccinated, insulting them is the very last way to get that done.
dipshit.
Raised your ire, didn’t it?
The are a-holes in all groups, expat and Caymanian. Just get the vaccine already
Darwinism at work. If you really want to ‘defeat’ the expats, you need to be healthy and alive to do it, otherwise we’ll have no choice but to populate your island
What absolute nonsense!
a) Why the distinction between Caymanians and non-Caymanians. It is the expats who have not seen their families overseas for over a year.
b) “mental and emotional isolation” will [effect] generations to come! You’re pathetic! My parents were evacuee children during WW2 – they’re food was rationed for nearly 10 years and they didn’t have regular contact with their parents for years!
You are, my friend, a true member of the snowflake society where any minimal hardship leads to post traumatic stress disorder!
The vaccines dont “expire” in three weeks; this is just the last date people can be assured of getting the first and second jab from this batch by June 30.
People can still get the first jab post June 9tth; they would just have to wait for future batches for second jab.
But if you have any intention of getting the jab, just do it by June 9th.
We send our “expired” medicines to Africa anyway.
Like the carton of milk in the back of the fridge, there might be a new carton at the store at some point, but we don’t know when that will be. Looking at the news, there are folks that want these elsewhere, and you can bet the FCO will look at how we did with what we were given before allocating more of the precious on us.
I still pay UK tax and so I have paid indirectly for these vaccines to even be here in Cayman. I’m sure the average Brit will not be very impressed if another tranche of vaccines are sent here for what are essentially selfish people to waste. Get vaccinated!!!!
6:15 you don’t pay shit, shut up
There won’t be further batches, if we are not grateful enough to use up all that we’ve been given to begin with. Why would they waste more vaccines on our country if we haven’t been bothered to get two vaccines in for all these months we’ve had the opportunity to do so. There are countries who are suffering and need them more than we do.
WTF are you talking about!? So many people know not what they speak about. The vaccine will be an annual vaccine like the flu. THERE WILL BE MORE VACCINES! Maybe not for free but there will be. Anyone who says differently is just a scaremonger.
11:58 Preach, they act as if this batch is the last in existence lol
Do you even read the news from other parts of the world? The vaccine is in short supply everywhere and the UK has not even begun offering the vaccine to all age groups. If they do send more, it will be for 12 – 16s once it’s approved and perhaps boosters for those already vaccinated if that is required. They aren’t going to send more for people who were too stupid or lazy to get them when they were offered. I wouldn’t count on the vaccine just being here when you finally decide that you want it.
Time shall tell….
Complacent, entitled?
6:26 telling us your two favorite words?
Actually, it isn’t annual. They still do not have enough data to identify how long tge initial shot is. It might be more than 12 months, it could be less. The point here js why would tge UK send more to be wasted when there are countries crying out for it. Just get vaccinated and stop being bloody selfish.
You will be cursing when no more sent, what u gonna do then?
Go to the US where I can get it for free 😇
10:25 – You can get it free here. Seriously! What planet do you actually live on?
The world who stood in long lines in cold, snowy weather to get a vaccine are watching how Cayman is sitting back and possibly letting vaccines expire. Vaccines all over the world were like gold or winning the lottery.
Oh shut the hell up. Cayman is not the only place to have “expired” vaccines. You can bet your ass other places are going through the same thing because many do not want to take it
Wow – what a pathetic comment.
NO…NOT really….not on purpose are countries letting vaccines expire. There have been some “accidents” where freezers have been unplugged or shipping problems due to snowstorms, but NO, countries are NOT sitting back and purposely letting the vaccines expire. Other countries know the importance of the vaccine.
UK is still only down to age 38+ in their vaccines due to limited supply……yet we were supplied with a huge inventory from them. We have been fortunate to be able to offer to 16+ and yet it’s about to go to waste. So embarrassing!
For reference, the US has been vaccinating 12+ for weeks. So, you can see just how much the UK could have used the vaccines we got from them.
If that’s all the vaccine left then it’s statistically impossible to get to >70% even if all 3000 shots are used.
70% of a made up number, which includes at least 20% of the population which is ineligible to receive.
Is that 70% for total population, or for adult population? If it is for total population, then the target of 70 to 80% is not achievable. With approximately 20% not eligible due to health conditions, you add to that persons under the age of 16, the 80%of house eligible has been met. Maybe that’s why this final st of vaccines will most likely be wasted.
Shoulda set an opening date and these would have been used up already!
So many are still operating at the same fear level as in March 2020 when we didn’t know squat about Covid. Those paranoid souls would go get their damn vaccine if they knew borders were opening.
Ok, what about those people that got the jabs in January, February and March, if the Vaccine is only good for 6 months,in August and september, it won’t help if they had the Vaccine or not if its only will protect for like 6 months, whats the point of getting it. Unless a booster shot is available, More questions than answers.
No one said it’s only good for 6 months!
2:16 pm, No one has proof it will protect after 6 months either
You are an idiot. Watch the news and get informed.
Lol, whose news?
It had not been proven that benefits are only 6 months! There is no booster required as yet.
We received too many vaccines! It is selfish that we are trying so hard to vaccinate the young and healthy (who have an extremely low risk) while there are millions of at-risk elderly people in poor countries that need the shot. This is the definition of privilege.
Please consider ordering(or asking for) less shots next time or donating more shots to poor countries.
Please update your assumptions to current global reality: 50% of hospital admissions are under 35 now. Everyone who’s eligible should get theirs in their arm, while they are available, or so help them. Simple as that. Malawi crushed 30,000 vials yesterday that had expired or were soon to expire. Nobody wants discards with something like this.
will keep asking the obvious questions:
what happens if we don’t meet the impossible target?
if we do meet the target is cayman willing to let the unvaccinated minotrity to be exposed to covid?…(answer is no unfortunately)
what is the scientific basis for stopping vaccinated people arriving here if we have protected the most vulnerable?(90% have been vaccinated)
what is cig’s re-opening schedule/plan?(answer is they don’t have one)
is cayman going to try and be covid-free forever?….free from other viruses forever??
Actually the percentage is a guess because they do not actually know how many people are here. A census should have been conducted prior so that we had more accurate numbers to to go by.
Simples. Either make vaccines mandatory for W/Permit holders to remain here or tell them they’ll have to pay for them in future. At least 12,000 wont’t want to pay I can assure you.
Every time you make a statement about a particular group of people, try substituting the words ‘black people’ and then see if it sounds OK to you. That should tell you whether you are making a compassionate and inclusive statement. Let’s try it.
“make vaccines mandatory for black people to remain here or tell them they’ll have to pay for them in future. ”
Hmm, doesn’t sound OK? Then it’s wrong. Stop picking on people from other nations. They aren’t doing you any harm.
Stop being so hyperbolic. I’ve been an expat in three different countries and had some requirements and restrictions that the citizens didn’t have. I agreed to them because I wanted the opportunity to live in that country.
8:37am – THIS. This is so perfect.
For everything a person says about an expat.
Thank you
From a Former Expat – Now Paper Driftwood (35+ yrs But I will ALWAYS be seen as an expat)
Caymanian to me.
-multi-generational Caymanian.
I am not quite sure why you are so fixated on WP holders?
You will find that most of them already have had it as we all have family abroad we haven’t seen for almost 2 years and we want nothing more than for the borders to reopen and finally give our loved ones a big hug.
From discussion with various people it turns out a lot of local caymanian families Are indeed the ones NOT vaccinated..
Not much incentive if you have your family and friends here and you’re enjoying a tourist free island but for the rest of us it has been harder.
I am so very grateful for our safe environment the last 15 months but I feel we need to look at the bigger picture and find a way out of this.The vaccine seems to be the safest/easiest way to do this.
I think when you’re thinking of WP holders, you are thinking of your own peer group but there are WP holders from many different backgrounds here. The four people that I’ve spoken with that won’t get vaccinated are actually expats so I guess it’s a mix of people refusing. I agree that the vaccine seemed to be the best way out of this situation which is why it is so upsetting that we are likely going to have vaccines going to waste.
9:22 I agree that most expats in professional jobs have been vaccinated. Talk to certain groups of expats in manual trade and you’ll quickly hear the conspiracy theories they have as justification for no vaccine. As in all areas of life, there are exceptions.
OK Mr. Panton, what is the plan in three weeks? We are at 40,778 now, and perhaps add 1 to 2 thousand more people (or more) by June 9th, so lets say around 43,000 people is where we are going to land, give or take.
Is there going to by any form of opening up July 1st? Say, no quarantine (or 2 to 3 days) for vaccinated people? Can American Airlines start flying down here in July? (they are currently selling phantom flights starting July 10th).
Hello Mr. Panton? Anything? Just a hint maybe? Total silence. Remember, you wanted this job so put your big boy pants on and give us some scenarios please!
He has no plan. #noplanpact
I agree. People criticized “no plan Alden” but this is even worse. They are just silent. The only thing I’ve heard about is Bryan and Saunders pressing for increased employment for Caymanians in the now non-existent tourism industry. No plan for if we don’t get to 70%. Not even a plan for if we do. Is Panton just hiding in his office with his fingers crossed hoping this will just work out?
Did you not watch the PACT Press briefing?
There is no way to set a date in stone with a virus still running rampant around the world. The anti-vaxxers here are holding out to see if those of us that are vaccinated are going to grow horns, have Bill Gates’ tracking chips start activating, or if we all start getting Aids..another one I just heard is that that vaccine has a magnet and anything metal will attach to your arm..geesh!!
I guess though if the billions of people all over the world that have been vaccinated all die off or have one of these side effects they will prove their conspiracy theories..Too bad it’s taking so long to happen, huh?
In my opinion if the government decides to set a date in stone, they should re-activate the Covid field hospital and use it specifically for those that contract the virus so that we can keep our hospital open and those people isolated.
If anyone wants to come in to the country, either as a visitor or on a work permit they must be vaccinated. For those that want to get vaccinated after June 9, the government should allow the hospitals to procure the vaccines and charge whatever it costs to those people who have refused to get it while the government was providing it for free.
From now on I am going to request anyone that comes to clean my pool, service my AC, fix my car, serve my meal, pour my beer, check my cinema ticket prove that they have been vaccinated if they want to provide a service and receive a payment. Anyone coming on a new contract should have to as part of the initial medical provide proof they have been vaccinated before arrival. All work permit holders should be offered the vaccine and if declined work permit not renewed. Plenty people in the world that would love to be living here fully vaccinated!
You won’t because you know it won’t work and also infringe on the human right of choice. People have choices and you can choose who you want to provide services, the same as people have the choice of the vaccine and let us also not discriminate against those who cannot take it for medical reasons. By imposing conditions you will need to have a lawyer construct a service agreement just like the service providers do. Also don’t forget when you go into a bar it is under their terms not yours. You have no right to demand the medical history of the person serving you.
You are so off base I don’t think you’re even still at Field of Dreams…
As you said: People have choices and you can choose who you want to provide services
I agree 100%. That’s why if the HVAC tech, Mechanic, Server, Bartender, Cinema Attendant, etc. don’t want to get vaccinated in order to provide service to the above, they can do so under their own choice.
Let’s see how receptive these service providers are to your demands! By the sound of it, I can safely assume you’ve been vaccinated. So why are you so paranoid if you’re “protected”? Further, there countless people that will gladly accept services from the providers without asking for medical history. I’d love to see what you’d do if you a/c went out during the summer months.
I’d love to do what this person has suggested. Not because I’m paranoid but because I’m so disgusted by people who have refused to get vaccinated because of selfishness and ignorance.
Not vaccinated then!
So what’s your plan for my fellow Caymanians who have not been vaccinated?
House arrest or prison maybe?
They made their choice……….
You had every opportunity..fall on your own sword now..or just keep on believing the conspiracy theories and pray you don’t get the virus…
This is simple. Anyone who has chosen not to be vaccinated vas insurance withdrawn for any subsequent Covid treatment. So if you catch it because you failed to get vaccinated you have to pay to be treated privately.
Robert, a pseudonym like yours speaks volumes. My suggestion- offer them $100 cash, that will go down much better than restricting their freedom.
Or a free beer or Burger King!
I’m sure there is land — perhaps near the ‘remediated’ dump — where they can be interred. A little chain link fence and some slapped-together hovels and PRESTO! Emergency housing. 🙁
My own people are starting to scare me with the draconian measures they are espousing, and here is me, too chickenshit to sign my name, because I don’t want to be rounded up.
Good luck with cleaning your own pool.
9:17 LOL, good luck with that
Sooo…that will last maybe a solid week before you realize how severely incapable you are and require professionals to do their jobs. Their medical decisions are no business of yours. Get off your high horse.
It would be helpful if all those who have been vaccinated wore a badge/pin saying “I’m vaccinated”.
Sell these at the supermarkets.
Hear hear. Get jab or permit elsewhere. Our infrastructure cannot accommodate a spike, period.
Just tell me how many permanent residents have been jabbed.
NOT VISITING DAUGHTERS SONS OR GRANDPARENTS.
A simple question but no answers
As many as wanted to.
Don’t let them expire and go to waste! If the selfish and ignorant people here won’t have them then let’s ship them off to another country/island that will! We are so lucky to have this opportunity. It blows my mind that people are too ignorant to understand this.
Those ‘selfish and ignorant’ people have the same choice as you. Respect their choice and don’t be so bigoted.
I don’t think this person is being bigoted. People refusing the vaccination are being selfish because being vaccinated helps protect the entire community, including those that cannot be vaccinated, by limiting its ability to spread. We may not have community spread now but that could change. Plus worldwide we need people to take the vaccine if we want to return to normal. They are also ignorant because the vaccine is safe and effective. A lot of the anti-vaxxers believe ridiculous conspiracy theories not based in reality. Everyone has choices but that does not mean that their decisions are equally ethical or intelligent.
How many people cannot be vaccinated? So far it’s zero. Refusing and can’t are to different things. According to the CDC only those who experienced a severe reaction to the first shot are ineligible for the second. Severe being defined as having to go to the hospital or requiring an eppie shot.
There are zero reported cases of that happening and those likely to react in that manner is close to zero as well.
You’re an idiot. Some people are allergic to some of the ingredients used to make it. Taking the first shot will ensure they don’t need the second as they can die.
Really, how many? 3? I’m guessing you are not taking the vaccine and also have no allergy problems associated with the vaccine ingredients. The ingredients aren’t eggs, nuts, dust and grass.
Or is it that you want to amplify allergies that likely make up less than .0001% of people to make it seem statistically significant? Let me guess, you also want the border to remain closed…
I suspect that its more a case that they are embarrassed to admit they have not been vaccinated so are inventing an allergy to justify why they have not.
It is not about choice. Being “selfish and ignorant” is exactly what you do in times like these.
When I was a baby, my parents ensured that I was vaccinated from all the normal childhood diseases. When I was in middle school, I received my booster shots and I repeated this with my children. In fact, the Cayman Islands Public Health law makes it abundantly clear that you cannot even attend school until you have your shots done.. It was not about “choice” for me. It was about love for my children and ensuring that their lives would be safe and free from these horrible diseases. I cannot even imagine how I would have felt if I didn’t have any of them vaccinated and they died because of foolish “choice” and human rights issues that I conjured up.
Most of the unvaccinated are under 30 years of age. But a high proportion of the age-vulnerable are vaccinated. That is the relevant metric the government should use.
The just isn’t a serious disease for younger people. Just look at this risk profile from the CDC.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html
The real problem is the fact younger people aren’t willing to “risk” taking a vaccine for a virus that won’t kill them. They know that it is statistically verified that 75+ is the average age of death. They do not trust the vaccine due to either political views or believe enough of the doubters vile conspiracy theories.
The problem I feel is just selfishness. People only will do something if they see more benefit for themselves than for other people around them. The mentality of the vaccine should be “We” and not “I”.
Young people have nothing much to worry about with the vaccine. It is far preferable than hoping your immune system can handle a potential covid infection. Yes, they will likely survive infection, but it may have permanently damaged them along the way. Look up stories of covid long haulers. Young, fit people who have had their lives drastically changed by this virus.
The government should not wait on the UK and allow the vaccine for 12 to 15 year olds as approved by the FDA for emergency use. 3 weeks until the vaccine expires and we have people in that age group that are safe to take it and can push our numbers for reopening the borders for vaccinated people.
Children do not need the vaccine. It has nothing to with “aren’t willing to take it”. They do not need it. Stop pushing the vaccine on them and follow the science, the children are!
CNS: For the science, see John Hopkins on Should I consider getting my child vaccinated for COVID-19?
In 2020 and 2021, The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation donated $32.5 million to The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.
The gov’t should look at the current and projected situation, not looking back to historic data from 2020. These age-defined hospitalisation assumptions are months out of date (published Feb 2021). 50% of hospital admissions are under 35 and have been since B117 changed the game…now there’s B1617 with those numbers doubling every week, higher R naughts etc. We need to look at what’s happening now and where it will be (elsewhere) in 3-4 months. It’s not over, even if many of us are thankfully fully vaccinated.
Cayman is undercounting people who got the vaccine in the UK, US or elsewhere. My son got vaccinated in Michigan at university, and is now back here for the summer.
But also over counting those that came in on a vaccine vacation and have since returned to their respective countries.
People came here on a vaccine vacation, without being questioned or verified. Expat residents invited and put their family’s in the front of the line over locals at the outset of the vaccine rollout. Those that had done lockdown here and worked hard to contain the virus were taken advantage of because persons in higher positions of power abused their position I saw with my own eyes young people and non alphabetical people walking ahead of our local elderly population. No wonder people are disenfranchised on the vacation. Lost at the first hurdle!
*Vaccination
Your arguement doesn’t hold up. You say these people have ‘pushed in’ or deprived our own people of the vaccination, but if that is the case, why do we have more vaccines left than people who want to take them?
No one here has been deprived of their vaccine.
A ridiculous claim.
And yet we still have THREE THOUSAND left. No one is missing out, there are plenty left for these poor people ‘at the back of the queue’. Find some logic and then speak, otherwise STFU
Come on let’s not let this opportunity go to waste! People around the world are literally dying for an opportunity to be vaccinated.
We are born to die
I was born to run
I was born in the usa
No carnival, no vaccine.
No carnival! That’s because there is no herd immunity! The government and medical professionals are not going to reward people that are too selfish to get vaccinated. They need to protect those that for genuine reasons are unable to have the vaccine. One way of the carnival going ahead is 70% being vaccinated.
That’s not the way it works. We will not be held hostage by a handful of nutters. Open the border, free up the carnival and we will go and get vaccinated. Until then, no carnival, no open borders, no vaccine.
Open the border, allow the carnival, and you wont get vaccinated, you will get wasted and have fun at the carnival, and catch the virus from all those bredren coming in and then happily spread it through the whole of our unvaccinated community.
You want the carnival, get vaccinated first. Expecting you to get vaccinated after you have been given what you want, when it is too late to prevent the consequences, is like asking for house insurance after the Cat 5 hurricane has arrived.
We are getting wasted anyway, carnival or not. Nothing you can do about it Holmes.
So we must trust their numbers why now exactly?
Open the damn borders and stop the lies.
I agree and nobody shouldn’t rush to take the vaccine till Govt can give a guaranteed date on border opening. They would be surprised how much people would get vaccinated if they gave an honest opening date
Tomorrow. Over to you ..
Cool cool. I don’t live in your irrational world of fear.