CAL issues invitation to see Max 8s take off

| 09/02/2021 | 48 Comments
Cayman News Service
Cayman Airways Max 8 aircraft at ORIA (Photo by Paul Tibbetts)

(CNS): The public is invited to drop by the Cayman Airways hangar on Owen Roberts Drive, Grand Cayman, anytime between 10am and 2pm this Saturday to walk through the national airline’s new Boeing 737-8 aircraft and watch them on training flights. The controversial plane has got the green light to return to the skies, nearly two years after it was grounded following two fatal crashes, but the airline must now convince its customers to get back on board.

CAL said its pilots and crew will be on hand to answer any questions about the fleet before the pilots will take the aircraft up for a series of take-offs and landings during the morning until around 11:30am.

Cayman Brac residents will also get the chance to tour the aircraft and meet with Cayman Airways pilots and crew on Thursday, 18 February, at the Charles Kirkconnell International Airport (CKIA) between 11am and 1:30pm.

CAL is expected to be putting the aircraft back into service later this month on the current limited flights the airline is running to Miami, Kingston and La Ceiba.


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  1. Anonymous says:

    The new CAL moto will be “Brace! Brace! Brace!”

  2. Anonymous says:

    It’s amazing the amount of arm-chair pilots we have here! I am in astonishment how many of you actually work for the NTSB, FAA or EASA! You clearly have the knowledge and training to make comments on aircraft and it’s ability to fly!

    For the smooth-brain amongst some of you, this is what we like to call sarcasm.

    • Anonymous says:

      The irony is none of those entities you’ve mentioned have anything to do with the design/engineering or technology that makes “aircraft able to fly”. The NTSB merely attempts to give the best explanations when they stop flying and crash. And the FAA and EASA are aviation regulatory authorities.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Aviation regulatory authorities” I mean you were sooo close to getting it, wow.

        Since you can’t determine what that phrase means, these aviation regulatory authorities, AUTHORIZE if a plane can fly or not. Boeing can create all the planes in the world but if the FAA and EASA doesn’t certify them to fly, then they aren’t going anywhere.

  3. Anonymous says:

    I seriously don’t think the pilots would put their own life at risk if they thought these planes weren’t safe.

    • Anonymous says:

      You obviously know nothing about the aviation industry. Ask the folks at the FAA, NTSB, and AAIB for starters if they would concur with that statement.

    • Anonymous says:

      And how many times has IBC (The Courier plane) declared emergencies. You go where the work is.

    • Anonymous says:

      And just how many people quit their jobs because they think it’s unsafe, let alone a pilot in Cayman?

    • Anonymous says:

      We should assume every brave 737NG crew member with access to the internet, would be well-versed and keenly aware of the risk-to-faith equation on these aircraft. Everyone read the criminal settlement figure. Beyond the MCAS disasters, there are 101 quality control issues that almost grounded all 737NGs after depressurization incidents in 2019 and 2020. What doesn’t help is that Moses and Fabian are getting the founder of “ReOpen Cayman”, hotelier, and real estate developer, Kel Thompson, to sign-off and speak for all of the younger CAL crew, accepting these risks – or facing termination. That’s patent Cayman-grade strong-arming.

    • Say it like it is says:

      9.32pm If they didn’t fly them they would be out of a job.

  4. Anonymous says:

    When pigs fly I might venture a ride.

  5. Anonymous says:

    This is a bad choice as is the acronym for the Brac airport (CKIA). I truly hope it does not end with Caymanians Killed In Action.

  6. Anonymous says:

    This is like advertising self-driving cars are perfectly safe in Cayman.

  7. anon says:

    Does CAL provide insurance cover for all passengers?
    I will stick to planes that don’t fallout of the sky after terrifying all those inside with their pre crash antics.

  8. Anonymous says:

    I wouldn’t worry about all the naysayers and anti-vaxers on here. These are the same people that eat junk food all day and worried about what the vaccine will put something foreign into there bodies. Ever wonder what was in that hot dog you ate at lunch today? The same goes for the idiots that think every one of the MAX airplanes will crash and kill them but would likely get on an airplane owned by a company that doesn’t even do proper maintenance on their aircraft.

    Right now several airlines, including American, Southwest, United and Air Canada are all flying these aircraft safely sine they were re-certified to fly.

    Just like the vaccine, it is my choice to take it because I believe at my age I could be susceptible to the virus and it could kill me. I have taken it not just for me but for every person I come in contact with, including my elderly parents.

    I have always chosen Cayman Airways as my preferred airline to fly. I was impressed that they were the first to ground their aircraft after the crashes. This says to me that the airline cares about my safety and theirs as well. These aircraft have gone through vigorous inspections,checks and repairs and have had to be re-certified by most countries Civil Aviation Authorities. I do not believe that if Cayman Airways thought these aircraft were unsafe that they would allow their employees or their passengers to work on them.

    I’ll be there on Saturday and yes I will fly Cayman Airways.

    • anon says:

      3.29pm Are you one of the horde that get free/discounted flights on CAL?.

      • Anonymous says:

        Unlike you, I don’t suck off the tit of the Government. I am a proud, independent Caymanian and I have never asked for anything free in my life and never will.

        I pay for everyone of my airline tickets..what say you?

    • Anonymous says:

      First to ground their aircraft, indeed. Of course, unlike many airlines, they don’t actually have to make a profit, so grounding their fleet not the huge sacrifice it might be for others. Same issue probably applies to them , unlike other airlines, not seeking compensation from Boeing or refusing to pay leases on unsafe aircraft.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Will be there! I saw the first one briefly the first time it arrived but the other one was never put into service.

    They are state of the art aircraft. My only wish is that Cayman Airways will install a wifi system on these aircraft particularly for us people traveling on business.

    • Anonymous says:

      State of the art????
      A fifty year old airframe design
      Nearly four years since the first delivery (May 2017)

      This plane has the highest kill ratio of any commercial plane for the first few years of operation.

    • Anonymous says:

      You first bobo… be our guest!

  10. Anonymous says:

    Make the first 10 flights free to MIA and Jamaica… if people willing risk their life to go shopping during COVID and fly a faulty plane. We back in business as a country… LOL

    Can we paint the new planes RED just so we know which ones to avoid … please and thanks.

  11. Anonymous says:

    NOT ME BOBO

  12. Anonymous says:

    The only reason CAL head, Fabian Whorms, DoT Minister, Moses Kirkconnell, and real estate developers like Kel Thompson, would “need to” sell passengers of some altered recollection of recent history, is because the secret aircraft leases can’t be revealed to public, or unwound for material negotiation deficiency. We have observed decades of mismanagement that suggests the latter. At minimum, these public-funded aircraft lease agreements need to be revealed and published fully in unredacted form, and any deficient negotiators permanently removed from decision-making governmental capacities.

    • Anonymous says:

      Let the people know why the lease has been under raps. Whose family members may be involved and why. Who would be so stupid to board one of those traps?
      Will the Min of Tourism take up the challenge?

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s not exactly under wraps. It’s known the leases are about $250k per aircraft per month. Each of the aircraft with configuration for CAL ran about $113.7m USD. Come to think of it, at that figure, that’s probably why they are kept from public view…

      • Anonymous says:

        The public can’t read the background negotiated term sheet on why they are paying $250k per aircraft per month for an extra fleet of “paper weights” that couldn’t be returned, and for which no business interruption insurance exists, or alternatives found. Even now, there is no public admission that maybe, just maybe, the 737-8’s were, in hindsight, a bad idea.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Put the 19 elected members on the first flight, assuming all goes well, I’ll hop back on board after that.

  14. Free CALaid says:

    When CAL leases lemons they give you free CALaid. Drink up!

  15. Anonymous says:

    Possibly I’ve seen too much
    Hangar Max 8, I know too much

    • Anonymous says:

      If that’s the case go on record and state your name, so the facts can be checked. If your not willing, it makes me wonder if your just a fear monger looking to stir. Let’s not play with peoples lives.

  16. Anonymous says:

    how do you get to the hanger?

  17. Anonymous says:

    So, like, in the engine? Why do we want to tour an airplane?
    The interior meant to make me feel safe? Weird PR show flex, I guess there will be snacks, right?

    I actually trust the KX pilots knowledge/opinion/expertise and training etc. I cannot imagine one of our CAL Cowboys sitting in the cockpit and not being sure they will come back home…
    But yeah, let me have a look under the hood. Thanks

  18. Anonymous says:

    New? How are these secretively-acquired, grounded aircraft, delivered in 2019, still considered to be new? New to the pilots maybe. The public have been servicing undisclosed lease payments on these paper weights for years now. The cautionary tale of the Boeing’s 737-8, like the Lockheed L-1011 Tristar that came before them, is that they will continue to fly until passengers won’t fly in them anymore…and maybe that’s right about now. Then they’ll be sold-off to discount liners and/or converted to run cargo until decommissioned. There’s no amount of kiddie tours that will change the mistake that Moses keeps trying to spin to some other conclusion beyond his control. All it will take is one more close-call or incident, by any airline, anywhere in the world, and these are commercially sunk; and it won’t even matter if that comes via weather, or legitimate pilot error. We should have found other planes months/years ago? Aren’t there gently-used aircraft by bankrupt liners on sale right now? This is the time to return these risks and trade-up.

    • Anonymous says:

      On the Lockheed : The L-1011 was late to production release due to the RR RB211 engines , which then went on to be one of the best jet engine types in commercial aviation. The latest Trent series of engines are directly related to the RB211 3-spool. The Lockheed was late to the game, beaten by the DC-10 . It also had one of the safest career histories of all the first generation wide bodies.
      Source: Wikipedia

      • Anonymous says:

        Not the Rolls Royce engines, the aircraft type. Where are they? Why aren’t they still flying, like “the scarier” 747s that were born before the first L-1011 maiden flight? It’s because the accident number were distributed over a smaller production sample, and range of completed flights. Only 250 L-1011 were made with 35 incidents over 15 years, versus 1562 B747’s with 166 incidents over 52 years. At grounding, there were 400 B737-Max 8 and 2 hull losses, but *importantly* those were preceded by corporate cover-up, and certification agency collusion, resulting in a criminal fraud settlement, and a victim fund of >$2.5 Billion. These are not secrets hidden in a vacuum, it’s public domain info. Events having been closely followed by CAL’s core customer base.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Will the ticket prices be revised?
    Because it is just ridiculous the increase that CAL did at the end of 2020.
    R I D I C U L O U S.

  20. Anonymous says:

    I cant wait to so see my boys looking all sharp, I hope they can answer all the questions I have. See you all there!

  21. Anonymous says:

    Invitation to the start of their demise

  22. What next🤔 says:

    The silliest thing ever. We have already christened the plane when they first arrived, so why are we wasting money touring the plane? Having groups meet up for nothing really🙄. Does a tour and human saying it’s safe make it safer? It would appear you are trying to just please yourselves CAL. Where exactly are we going anytime soon with the exorbitant fares 🤔 and PCR test🤔 and quarantine 🤔. Waste of time and money Mr Whorms about tours!! Nothing new here … same plane new parts. Just like a car. Same car even if you fix the flat!!

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