Cop at scene of crash victim of vandals
(CNS): The police officer who was first on the scene at the horrific road smash in East End on Tuesday night after he followed the black Honda Accord has become the victim of vandals. The RCIPS have started an investigation into the case of criminal damage after the officer’s private car parked at his home was deliberately and significantly damaged last night. Police did not set out the full details but CNS understands that the car was vandalized with threatening language. Police Commissioner Derek Byrne emphatically condemned the actions and warned those responsible.
“I find this incident very troubling,” he said. “An officer is diligently going about his work to protect and serve the community, is a first responder and witness to a tragic motor vehicle accident with multiple deaths, and in his own district where he lives and works is targeted with the threat of violence and damage to his personal property, as well as the concerns for his family. This is akin to an attack on Cayman society and the criminal justice system.”
Byrne added, “This is reprehensible and every effort will be brought to bear to locate and arrest those responsible.”
Coming some twenty-four hours after the officer was working at the scene of the terrible crash, the RCIPS said that the implied threats and damage to his car has added further stress and has traumatized his wife and child.
The officer was on duty alone in a patrol car in East End on Tuesday evening when the black Honda Accord sped past him in the opposite direction and triggered the on-board radar. He then pulled over and turned the police car around, switched on the blue lights and followed the speeding Honda, which by that time was out of sight. Just minutes later the officer came upon the crash.
The police have insisted since releasing its first reports of the smash that the officer was not involved in a pursuit of the Honda. Despite this insistence that there was no chase, accusations have been made on social media that the officer was somehow at fault, but there has been no evidence to substantiate those allegations or anything to contradict the police account.
Anyone with information on the damage to the police officer’s own car is asked to contact Detective Inspector Oremule on 936-8746 or George Town Police Station on 949-4222. Anonymous tips can be provided to the RCIPS Confidential Tip Line at 949-7777, the Miami-based call centre of Crime Stoppers at 800-8477 (TIPS), or online here.
“….he was employed to work on a farm, so we might speculate that the reason he was poaching conch might have something to do with how low the salary was from his primary job.”
Give me a break!
You people can justify about anything, from domestic battery, rapes, hit and runs and tragedies like this one. If every poor person was following YOUR moral compass then life on earth would have become a real hell.
Why wouldn’t he just steal carrots?
I have never seen more Jackasses. We need a change but please keep Marco Archer. He is a cool dude.
What has occured here is similiar to other developing countries. The serious criminal elements have figured a way to beat the system.
What we have here is a sophisticated criminal element that have penetrated the law system that was in place and changed it in order to handicap the officers that were doing their jobs. Hence why a lot have left or were forced out. The old saying ” change it from withi
Gone are the days of raids on a friday night, where 15 people where arressted and a ton of information was obtained.
Now we have what is called “intelligence led policing”. We wait till someone calls, we hope, and says “we are going rob Fosters tomorrow with guns”.
The RCIP needs to stop being such a service and start being a FORCE, like it used to be. You keep a part of the service but you need more FORCE.
When there is no functional law enforcement then there is no respect for the laws. The streets of Cayman are ruled by those who have no respect for themselves, the laws, and anyone who is in their way. The suicide passers, taxis that stop in the road, speeders that live to cut people of, no legal mufflers, tinted windows, tinted license plates, etc., etc.,are a part of Cayman culture that wont go away by itself. The fact that police officers here are considered the enemy of the people tells what kind of people they are.
Tonight I decided to watch COPS on spike….just so I can remember what real policing is like. Not the soft approach the RCIPS has…lock these scum up and teach some respect.
What is so very sadly ironic is that the cop to arrive first at the scene more than likely helped save the lives of the two survivors by reporting the accident and rendering assistance. But do the vandals stop to think about this and say thank you instead?
RCIP must respond by having road blocks in a manner that doesn’t allow someone to take an alternative route because there needs to be another road block there. Check for expired license and insurance, license plates not installed, tinted windows and search the cars wherever your K9 indicates there may be drugs and weapons.
Walk parking lots to do the same checks there.
Someone who drives with a tinted window, with expired stickers and without license plates installed is also likely to take a chance speeding because they keep getting away with other infractions.
It is wayyyyyyy past time for RCIP to start sending a loud and clear message. It may seem silly, but they got to start somewhere. Our children need to SEE that laws are being enforced.
I am sure a lot of law abiding citizens would be inconvenienced by this, but if that what it takes to identify those who things laws don’t apply to them, so be it!
The cops can’t even stop criminals stealing cocaine and scooters from their own HQ and you think they can organise a proper road block… lol
RCIP AND CNS: is there a way to check the IP addresses of those that are thumbing down on some of the sensible outrage at what this article is stating. This might give clues as to who the perpetrators are as I’m sure they’re glued to this forum reading and cringing at the disgust and disdain that is being shown towards them.
I mean really, who thumbs down a comment when someone states that the vandals should be brought to justice??? Only the vandals themselves or their supporters. This could lead you to the offenders.
In any case when they do find these useless waste of space that did this vandalism hopefully they make an example out of them.
Go ahead and thumbs down this comment, because it might be your last thumb down if you’re the culprit you will soon be caught!
CNS: No, there is no way to check the IP address of the thumb votes.
11.49 I thumbed down you just for trying to break the anonymity of posting. I would not take it personally, there are many idiots around. If there was no anonymity there would be few comments (see Compass for that) and you would get very little idea of what most people really think. You may not like what a lot of people think, as indeed I don’t, but at least you know those kind of people are out there and not all is well in the rose garden.
I doubt they can read.
Hmmmm … I think its not the commenters that pose a threat, but authoritarian people like you! :/ Even if CNS had IP addresses and shared them with the Police, do you seriously think this news service would be ready for international shaming, as CNS has repeatedly declared it stands for Free Speech and the Press???!
Free Speech ensures you have the right and freedom to correct any idea, concept, or unwholesome thinking. Instead it seems you would rather do like they do in some eastern countries: dethrone Free Speech and punish folk who don’t think like you.
And if you’re not happy with our bill of rights, you can always move and live somewhere else. Take your views with you too 😉
I doubt the people responsible for this read Cayman News Service! Or, for that matter, read at all!
11:49: You may enjoy being a sheep by being told what to do and when to do it but I enjoy my ‘freedom’. So in the same way you should think before you speak, apply that same concept to typing comments. Thumbs down for your ridiculous post – double check that.
@ 5:58 – I think a Dashcam or a camara set on the police officer’s person, would solve problems like this one, as to what really happened! I think the COP should consider equiping officers in the outer districts with such camaras. :/
Totally agree regarding dash cams
I would go so far to say that every civil servant who interacts with the public on a daily basis should be given body-cams.
I think we citizens should have body cams to record our interactions with our CS employees. Nothing would improve, but it would make a great weekly local TV show! Let’s call it “Caymans saddest civil service videos”
Good idea.
This is a serious problem Cayman. The 21 yr old Jamaican who crashed and killed these people was “living” and “working” in cayman?? was he on a work permit? if so who checked his police report as im sure he has committed crimes before. this is the type of people and lawlessness cayman does not need. Im probably right when i say the car wasn’t licensed, insured, inspected and the guy probably didnt have a licence. Then to make things worse, the policeman who spotted him speeding is somehow getting blamed and victimized for this tragic accident. And you wonder why the RCIPS have to hire officers from overseas….wake up cayman..Your turning into a 3rd world country where the people rule the police.
While I agree that the police should not be blamed for the man’s death, you make may assumptions about his work permit status and vehicle. Too many.
I agree with you that the poster has made far too many assumptions about the character of the driver. However, he was employed to work on a farm, so we might speculate that the reason he was poaching conch might have something to do with how low the salary was from his primary job.
Granting 10,000+ work permits to workers earning less than $7 per hour will have an impact on our social fabric, and this tragic accident appears to be one of those very sad and highly visual side effects that arise because so many people need to find “work” outside the terms of their work permit.
pleeeeeeeese…….he stole conch because he was on $7 an hour! Did you think he might even be illegal? Hence working for low pay on a farm in east end so you say!
Here we go!! Not because he’s a Jamaican national means he has a criminal past. Sometimes it’s that one moment of stupidity that causes a lifetime of sadness.
Idiots…stupid idiots………. the sad part , even if they track down the fools who are responsible for harassing the police officer… the court will give them a fine and slab on the wrist…. Life on the wrong planet G Nowak
I can’t stand when people only get a slap on the wrist for heinous crimes…
I so wish I was surprised by this but, I’m not. Every day this island becomes less and less like the place I grew up. Even if police procedure somehow contributed to this heartbreaking event and that is highly unlikely from official reports, how does this help in any way? Does it replace the life of their loved one who was lost or injured? No. It is just petty, immature, hateful behaviour. If wrongdoing has been done the people should demand a full investigation and changes if that investigation confirms police protocol contributed to this event. Don’t police cars have dashboard cameras? If so, I expect it would be very easy to confirm the officer’s report. Sadly, I think even if the vandals were presented with such concrete evidence it would make no difference. It is always everyone else’s fault.
it is time to get into 21st century and equip RCIPS’ officers with dash and body cameras.
The problem is this kind of ignorance comes from the top down. I can remember a few years ago when a noted East End MLA (the same one who forced Derek Haines out of RCIPS) suggested that the import of Honda Civics should be banned because they were involved in too many crashes. The road safety groups are just as bad. It’s been a long time since I attended any of their meetings but the ones I did go to ended up as little more than an excuse to slag off RCIPS.
The bottom line is that driver licensing, vehicle safety inspections and traffic enforcement are a joke on these islands. It’s like Mt Trashmore – everybody knows there’s a problem but nobody has the balls to admit it and tackle it.
There needs to be a radical re-think of roads policing and penalties. Offences like speeding and not wearing a seatbelt should be removed from the court system and dealt with by fixed penalty tickets. A points system (what they call in Australia demerits) needs be introduced and police need to be given powers to seize unlicensed, uninsured or unroadworthy motor vehicles. At the same time the more serious traffic offences need to be treated as exactly what they are – crimes. I don’t see any reason why an ex-pat (and I’m one) shouldn’t face automatic deportation after being convicted of offences like dangerous driving, DUI, driving without insurance or driving without a valid licence.
The problems is that nothing that works in other countries would work here for in this “country” everyone is someone else’s nth cousin.
The problem is the same as all other Caymanian problems. Ignorance. Culture driven and not fixable. Until they self teach discipline, education, and hard work it will not change. The future belongs to those who will learn new things and new ways to get better. The rest will get run over. If you are always right and everyone else is always wrong you will not learn anything more from your life.
The Police car dashcam should set this story straight.
They do have dashcams…..right?
A respectable, decent person should be crawling on his hands and knees to apologize for his friend ending the life of 3 innocent people. The person who did this is little more than a feral animal.
Cayman is or has become a lawless society. Some idiot has killed himself and 3 others, why is this officer being blamed? Was he the one driving the Honda? No. Was he in pursuit? From the reports , no. Unacceptable.
P.
Indeed Cayman has become more and more Lawless, too much corruption; every body knows everybody or is a family friend and most think the law of their own country do not apply to them. Most have family members who are repeat offenders thus they are very Anti-police.how many Caymanian Police officers are there? Maybe 10 and as much as the service keep asking for caymanians to join and help Police their own country, its a difficult ask; they dont want to do it.The few who sign up are either of parents from elsewhere or naturalized. They are a people who want to live as their lawless ancestors who roamed and take what they want who they want whenever they want.
With everything that happens the people first blame the Police even when the person gets arrested is obviously wrong but its their opinion that the Police is doing wrong for carrying out their duties. The society ie homes to penal system nurtures and condones criminals and their acts, smile or slap on the wrist even if they do the same thing and worse repeatedly. The offender very seldom gets reprimanded, ohh! its always the Police officers fault.
Where this and several other incidents of its kind are concerned- why blame the Police even if there is a chase in any situation the officer should not be blamed ever unless he gives chase at a time of day when the streets are busy and endangers or causes harm to any other person not involved in the situation. An officer gives chase for a definite reason and with lights and sirene to ensure their intention is noted by their subject. It is the responsibility and duty of the targeted party to stop, not flee and present possible danger to themselves and others. It is always because of unlawful reasons or acts that they flee instead of stopping.How is it the Police ends up being blamed for doing their job. The subject could have on board drugs, gun/s, an abducted person, someone beaten and abused, dead body/bodies,bomb and a miriad of other reasons but nooooo!!! we dont want the Police arresting our children. Most of the time these parties dont even have respect for their parents who in the first place fail to discipline or teach manners and respect. There is every kind of law being put in place to defend criminals and somehow at the same time criminalize and demoralize the Police. Yes everyone should be treated fairly and with respect but the Cayman society does not believe that should be also for and towards the Police who go the many extra miles to serve them.
This crusade against the Police needs to stop because continuing in the same will leave them without any law enforcement and i’m sure as much as they want it that way they will not lime the result.
I hope they round up this whole useless lynchmob and send them straight back to sh@#thole Jamaica where they came from.
racist!
and not knowing your history!
I am very proud that Jamaicans had nothing to do with MY history.
I’m a 100% Caymanian, and I’m proud that they did! :))
When? When they were British?
Your great great great great granddaddy was a wimp when it came time to fight in wars and deserted to the cayman islands. How proud are you now?
Didn’t know him, but do know he was British (not Jamaican). He was likely very brave and managed to sail across here without support and build a life. He had no fight with the Spanish. It was not his war.
Keep it 1000 like a track coach! Give a damn if I’m filthy rich or flat broke. Still the same that’s a fact!
Well then back to Africa.
Either way you get the point.
It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with culture. Anyone who has lived in Cayman long enough will know that it makes no sense to run from the police. Where will you run? Into the sea? Give me a break. But, openly flouting the law and running from the police seems to be an everyday occurrence in Jamaica. Perhaps Anonymous @10:11pm was a little crude in how they stated their opinion. However, I hate when people blurt out “racist” when others speak about legitimate cultural differences that have a negative impact on host countries.
Most “Caymanians” were originally Jamaicans who were originally Africans. I think a few DNA tests here and in Jamaica would clear that up once and for all.
People love to say this always ignoring the VERY large mixed population. We African and European.
Also, the Jamaican’s who originally came here aren’t much like most of the ones coming these days.
Research The true American….the real Native American…we have lots of this in Caymanian “Caribbean” DNA.
The Eurocentric and Afrocentric models are not the only racial cultures to be pressured on the now mixed people of this world. If we check it a “true” Caymanian is of copper reddish-skintone with more than likely straight or curly hair.
Skin is not always a reflection of DNA, but with our diverse gene pools…we should be last to hate anyones culture and we don’t…that’s why they have successfully erased ours!
We are all being mixed with a touch of everything nowadays, unless your a tribe in Dogon or support incest….Best thing is to have O+ type blood though
10:11pm, why is it always jamaicans that are doing the wrong things? Your holier than thou ‘caymanians’ are sooooo always doing the right thing. You are so full of it, that is one of the reasons things are not ever getting any better.
I hope every effort is made to ensure the safety of the officer and his family.
Really?! Bullying and terrorizing? this is the depth to which we have sunk?! Leave the poor man alone. He was doing his job. The only person at fault in this whole horribly tragic event was the driver of the car for speeding and not stopping. And, to terrorize this policeman’s family? Shame on you, you’re nothing but scum.
Hard to believe this tragedy could get worse, but it has. This mindless act against an officer doing his duty brings criminal behaviour to a new low on these islands.For a long time now we have seen posts on CNS plumbing the depths of ignorance in criticising the police and expat officers in particular and now these cretins have raised the bar. Hopefully they will get caught as the police will surely know where to look given the circumstances.
Sadly, we are going to need a much bigger prison to house all of our animals.
You are a horrible person. ANYONE who views a human being as an animal is a horrible person; there is nothing worse hhan a hypocrite. How can you look at another human being and call them an animal? Can only imagine the hatefulness you spew, breed and contribute to.
If humans behaved a little more like animals the world would be a better place.
Animals don’t sinks to the levels of depravity that humans do.
M’Luw, we are all animals.
10:47pm, they act and display what or who they are. Get it?
Thanks again Mac. They are effing up the same Cayman that you live in.
Beasts don’t do this kind of things to each other. Have you ever seen
an unhappy flower or a stressed oak tree? Have you come across a depressed dolphin, a frog
that has a problem with self-esteem, a cat that cannot relax, or a bird that carries hatred and
resentment?
Never, but they haven fallen to technology and lifeless robotics that require their energy input.
For no longer, are they in tune with life – that which is nature. Worshipping dollars and pennies that come from the earths precious resources and they don’t even mind, nor mine anything but money.
When you no longer exude and seek love, peace, or perhaps even genuine prosperity of thy neighbor, it is Fear that devours you. That is a terrible thing to waste your life living for…other “oldboys” Fears…
Especially checking for every gruesome headline and bloodsport battle that media outlets bring, you have to wait for a TV show to see “reality” – You are the ones in trouble for promoting such lifestyles like this for your young people – from Jamaica, Cayman, USA…
Truth is the youth are the future any and everywhere you are located…or hiding.
I was almost run down in a freaking GT crosswalk today. My God it is insane. I had to jump out of the way. The driver was a young male. No big surprise. But, I think we need tighter standards for driver’s licenses.
Naive thinking. They would drive without a license.
Surprised you could see him through his black tinted windows.
I know CNS would not allow me to post what I would really want to say about the people that did this to this police man and his family. Even if, and I say even if, the police had chased these guys they should have pulled over for the police. Any person who castigates, much less acts out against, the police for doing their job (including trying to protect the lives of the other drives on our roads, handling the crash scene, managing the crowd/hooligans, saving the conchs or whatever) is a damnation on our society and should be put to live in the Salinas with no shade, food, water or exit!
Better act quickly and decisively, to nip this in the bud.
Revoke Macs status grants and depor them before they have more kids.
They were likely illegal. Nothing to revoke. Just let them see of they can qualify for PR and if not, deport them.
Enough already about this status grant issue. If you were more informed you would have known that this was a directive from the FCO or are you still listening to those who know better but for political reason won’t say he right thing. Like our current Premier for instance. Did you notice that he could not pursue the appeal to the Privy Council, ever wonder why?Think about it before you make stupid comments.
There was no directive from the FCO. The status grants were the result of ill considered third world political largesse. Nothing more.
The initial report stated that the police was in pursuit of the car. That’s what’s triggering this madness. The media was too eager to get the news out before getting the facts straight and reporting false news. Now this police is suffering for it.
Yep, spot on. The idiots that did this are essentially condoning the behaviour of a criminal. Stay classy Cayman.
Regardless of what was believed, civilized persons do not take the law into their own hands like this! This “street justice” may be commonplace in the holes these fools crawled out of BUT it is not the Caymanian way!
The investigation into who perpetrated this disgusting vandalism has a pretty obvious starting point…..family members/cronies of the idiots in the Accord. I hope they are HARSHLY prosecuted!
Turns out they do. And we should all be worried about that, wherever you come from…
So if the cops pursue they are wrong and if they dont they are still wrong. I hope they find who did this and lock them up for a long time. Time to send a message
The only person to blame here is the idiot driving the car. He was the one breaking the law, he caused the crash, and he killed 3 innocent people, injured 2, and for his luck killed his dam self.
There is something truly wrong with the vandalizing individuals. If they are caught I would hope they are placed in Northward for a substantial time period and try and get the point across that mob does not rule.
The officer was doing his job. I don’t care if he had been chasing the car. It’s cops and criminals. Is he not supposed to attempt to stop them. I do not condone a 20 mile chase at high speeds but come on. This guy had only turned his car around and unfortunately came across this gruesome scene. I’m sure the sight he saw in the vehicles was enough to scar him for life. It’s not a pretty picture. You would think that NORMAL people wouldn’t want to see the dead bodies in the cars but there you had it, the minute they got the chance , the ghouls were looking in the windows to get there fill. There’s a lot of things wrong with these individuals also.
I’m sure if this guy had just robbed a LOCAL in Esat end and no one persude him there would be an uproar against police for that. You can’t have it both ways. You either want the police to do their job or you don’t. And if you don’t then let’s get rid of the RCIP and just put a complaint window in each district instead.
Wake up Cayman
Perfect! Absolutely perfect!
You’re a coward! Damaging this persons property in private! Come out and show yourself!
But you won’t cause you’re a chicken! Coward!
Hope they catch you soon! Scum
Mr. Or Mrs. SCUM that vandalized the officers personal property whoever you are, remember what goes around comes around.
You should be ashamed of yourself! A roach has more class than you! Shame on you!
You’re a sad human being!!!
REALLY?!?!?! What the eff?!!! Anyone have a moral compass?? It was ENTIRELY the fault of the person driving who was running from police after sighting them because they were traveling with passengers in an open trunk! Not to mention the possibility of poached conchs! The family or friends of the persons who did this should be ashamed of both their loved ones and themselves! Disgraceful!
the know nothing about shame
Sadly the ignorant scum that vandalized the officers car wont be capable of reading what people think of them on this forum. They truly are scum.
People are upset. They don’t believe in the police’s side of the story!
However, I for one condemn the actions of those vandals, or anyone against the officer or members of his family. That is reprehensible and really low!
:/
They never do, what this showing is that they still and remain uncivilized, uninformed and most of all illiterate. Hope the COP offers the man protection from the scums of the Cayman society.
Sounds like the eastern districts are getting to be more like the Western one ……. smh
No, the Western one is becoming more like Honduras. The Eastern one more like Jamaica.
Everyday racism. Apparently we live in a world where people can do openly express such thoughts.
Been to Jamaica or Honduras recently?
So true
Count yourself in
Not really surprised, Cayman is the land of non-enforcement which leads to a complete lack of respect for authority. Very sad indeed.
Sad but true.
Absolutely disgusting.
Disgusting!
This is an outrage. These are in substantial part imported problems, and we need to face up to that fact and be honest about it if we hope for lasting solutions.
The public should be made aware if this officer suffers any financial loss in consequence of this. Hopefully the RCIP will compensate him, but if not, I would ask that the public be given an opportunity to show their support. That officer should not have had to face the scene he came upon on the night of the accident and for him to have faced further injury is absolutely disgusting.
Why are all your problems ‘imported’?
Just because this idiot was apparently Jamaican, his actions are none the less repeated on a daily basis by many young Caymanians who believe they are expert racing drivers.
Even middle aged Caymanians are an absolute disgrace when it comes to following the rules of the road and basic vehicle control.
You seem to conveniently forget that the majority of those who protect, serve and care for you are imported. Perhaps if your society didn’t behave in this disgusting way towards your own, you would have more Caymanians wishing to serve their communities without having to suffer the abuse and threats that many have to tolerate on a daily basis.
It matters not what nationality this moron was, it matters more that you have failed to create a civilised society from the 65 thousand inhabitants on this island, and police it diligently and honestly from within your own communities.
No one said all problems are imported. Only that a substantial number are. That is true. Our immigration regime is supposed to protect us. Why isn’t it?
Because you won’t do the damn work yourselves, you prefer to pay slave wages so you can live the high life off the backs of others.
If you really believe most of Caymans problems are imported then you really are living in denial and know noting of what is really going on. There is now something called the Freedom of Information, use it..You could know how many Police reports against Caymanians, how many Caymanians guilty as accused, traffic offenses by Caymanians, Domestic Violence perpetrated by caymanians, Convictions agianst Caymanians and how many Caymanians occupy the Prisons and juvenile facilities as opposed to foreigners.
4:02 pm
you need to chill. Why his potential financial losses is on your mind right now?
At this point the issue is his and his family safety.
I can not do much to actively keep him safe. I can help buy him a new car.
Wow, unacceptable, is this really what our society is coming to? Something needs to be done with these wannabe bad man.
This is absolutely discusting! How can anyone blame the Police officer? The only person to blame for this tragedy is the fool driving the Honda! That crash was always going to happen with the way these guys drive their Hondas around the island! He was driving with passengers in the trunk of his car!! HELLO!! of course the officer was going to turn around…. otherwise what is the point of having police?? These young males continue to drive like maniacs around the island, and unfortunately 3 elderly tourists suffered their fate down to 1 of them.
Of course it’s disgusting and reprehensible. How did it happen? Ask those who started passing conjecture and rumour from the moment they started congregating to rubberneck at tragedy. A quick check of social media postings will clearly indicate those fueling these flames – but watch how quickly they all claim they were just passing on what they heard and shouldn’t be held accountable for lending credibility to unverified speculation.
Learn to spell – whilst rolling your anti-Honda campaign out for 2017 votes…Hondas are the most economical choice and thus are of higher statistics, it’s only statistically correct for accidents on motorways to involve a Honda for that fact. Honda been crashing before you knew how you could reap from Cayman Islands friend, before you got on a boat and knew aMURican, before you learn to roll doobies mang.
learn to spell?…learn to write. your English is terrible.
Maybe, but you choose black and illegal tint and obscure plates or (extra style points) no front licence plate yourself.