Downtown club scene of double-trouble
(CNS): Police dealt with two separate and serious crimes at a downtown nightclub Friday, an assault and a shooting, but the suspects in both cases evaded arrest. Just before midnight a 19-year-old man from George Town was inside Margaritaville nightclub in George Town when he was hit in the face with a bottle. The victim sustained a cut to his neck and was taken to the hospital, where he was treated and released. Police gave no details of the incident but said they were looking for two men. Both were described as around 5’8″, one with brown skin, a slim build and braided hair with beads at the ends, and the second as light-skinned.
As officers were dealing with the injured victim, another altercation erupted in the parking lot. As armed police approached, a gun was fired. Officers went after two men dressed in dark clothing who had run towards Fort Street but the suspects were able to escape. The police said that a vehicle in the parking lot was damaged by gunshot.
This is the second time in less than two months that police have dealt with firearms incidents in the parking lot of Margaritaville.
Anyone with information is asked to call George Town Police Station at 949-4222. Anonymous tips can be provided to the RCIPS Confidential Tip Line at 949-7777, the Miami-based call centre of Crime Stoppers at 800-8477(TIPS), or online here.
What would Rev Elmslie next door say?
Quite simple revoke the licence for six months or impose a closing time of 8pm. Or is that too much to ask.
Weak laws in a weak country
Prime tourist venue, the touring masses read about this. Cant hide it.
I don’t know really as I’m not a TRUE Caymanian but after 28 years of polite service to the Cayman Islands I see and understand that if we are to see any change in this gang culture that has enveloped us we must take away the core that is ruling the roost. If higher up chains of people involved are in the fight and know names, surely it is both ethical and wise to name, shame and get squads in to round up the minority affecting the majority at whatever cost, cheaper then losing millions of tourism revenue! Just saying!
Dollars spent in way of having specialists in will be rewarded with peace in our society, let’s face facts we are a small island, people know names, squeeze them. Simple really
Still waiting on the 60% gun reduction…….looks more like 60% increase. Thank God no bystander got shot or a tourist from the USA or the U.K. don’t think the government would be able to cover that scenario up. Remember we are the envy of world and work permits are good for the country.
Have been vacationing one week per year in Cayman for the past 15 years, spending my hard earned money on what use to be a safe place and wonderful piece of paradise! However, since illegal immigration has become out of control and the “Dart Group” was allowed to take over the island it has noticeably began to suffer in the past 5 years. Unfortunately, Caymans’ political, legal, law enforcement and public works infrastructure cannot effectively support the current and planned development. You should listen to your Legal Citizens. As, my “measly” $10,000 annual tourism dollars wont ever be back! I fully empathize with the views of so many hardworking Caymanians’..
Hilarious, Dart is the problem. What a fake poster. Who are the majority at northward? Who are the ones who feel like the own the people of the islands because they think they still own the islands, its not Dart. Cayman politics cant keep up with Dart becuase Cayman politics cant even take care of their own without the help of Dart.
That sounds like 1/2 worlds problems. Stand up make your politicians listen
This has local written all over it. Pretending to be a sad tourist.
Then you know nothing Kay.
Uneducated, workshy and greedy locals cause more trouble on this island than any other group. Most of the island is made up of Jamaican heritage locals, (with plenty of them a mix of Jamaican, Honduran, Cuban etc….)
No, that sounds like a very uneducated post built on niavety or just plain stupidity.
Please don’t fall for the liberal cop out of ‘its everyone else’s fault’, it’s not, it’s home grown and nurtured.
Amen!
Glad to hear someone here not afraid to tell it like it is
Relax its pirates week! Smh
if you stay on this island long enough….it becomes a prison!? sort of like the rapinue people out on Easter island….maybe we need start building molukie’s of politicians who are selling us out??
Wait till food prices increase enough that the poor resort to cannibalism.
I know! Let’s build a massive cruise ship dock and destroy a million year old coral reef in the process! That will fix all our problems! zzzzzzzzzzz
Yawn…Nothing to do with this article. Go do your griping on a page that pretends to care…. IACWAMR
It has everything to do with this article! Our politicians are more worried about developing a cruise ship dock than they are about our escalating crime problem and broken education system. They need to get their priorities in order!
Thanks to the leaders who make laws to keep law abiding citizens from owning guns. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Hate to say so but
unless things change its only going to get worse.
Still waiting to hear what happen to the drugs that disappear from the police station.think that was the boys on the streets.that whole police force needs to be revamped.
Oops, place was full of tourists..there goes the tourism industry…don’t bother with the dock, unless you get crime sorted, the only place people will come in gated resorts with armed guards, just like in Mexico or Jamaica…
“gated resorts with armed guards, just like in Mexico or Jamaica”
The problem is that West Bay Road gets in the way of having large all-inclusive resorts. The way the Kimpton was developed is key – remove a section of West Bay road to allow buildings around a central courtyard opening to the beach. Tourists can be shuttled in from the airport, have everything they want at the resort, and don’t have to be exposed to the deteriorating social pathologies of the island. The trick will be policing the beach, but beach access is being impeded already.
Tourists go to the most desperate islands and are none the wiser, provided they can be sufficiently isolated in a bubble.
When you try to write truth about the reality on our streets and the level of violence and the complicity of this “New” police farce some try to silence your comments. The gun shots always breaks the silence though and you know what else, it breaks their little deliberate deception that they are keeping us safe and all is well on this little island. Those gunshots may not hit their targets thank goodness, but the constant gunfire and gun related violence shatters the belief that Cayman is still a safe place. Welcome to Alden & Mckeeva little Utopia of mo People mo Problems mo Money =PPM
This story is garbage. The Police were standing at the corner of Kirk House/BK! They did NOT approach anyone! The fight CAME TO THEM and this was AFTER the shot had been fired…minutes after too. The Police didn’t chase anybody. The boys (mostly 17, 18 year olds) came to the top of the street with the fight (yes with the Police right there). They need to STOP LYING to cover up for themselves. Pull up the video footage, as I am sure there was at least 1 functioning camera out there (Court/Burger King)
— so sick of it. They are there to collect a salary. Witnessed for myself, they are scared themselves! So let the crime run Cayman rampant. Because those who have the control are not actually in control.
Police didn’t do jack , I had to duck with a friend behind a car in the parking lot or else we would’ve gotten it . Police didn’t do shit
The boys loaded gun inside
Fire alarm was pulled down to cause distraction
People ran down the stairs like crazy
And boom shots were fired
Police was in the corner and also the securities for the club was at the top of the stairs when people started panic and running all directions
Nothing was done.
And there you have your problem. An uneducated loser who can’t put a reasonable sentence together. And these idiots are your future, you must be so proud.
Enough said.
There is plenty smartphone around so where the XXXX the witness is….oh yeah they won’t help the police! Stop blame the police…it is people won’t report or help police to catch the assholes who have no respect to the law and people lives.
10:41
I hear you loud and clear. Sadly it looks like the last piece of the thug agenda is now in place, NO snitching. But if there is reward money is offered the parrots will be talking.
Yea, one thing you can rely on Caymanians to do is stab each other in the back.
So you are essentially saying the police are impotent, and the thugs know it. So this will surely continue. Maybe a name change is in order so we can advertise this potentially lethal tourist attraction. “Come join in the real life shootem up at the OK Margaritaville Saloon”. Thankfully we have our own RCIPS who will try their god damn best to officiate and pick up the bodies.
I went on holiday to the Cayman Islands Pirates Week Festival and was almost hit with a bottle inside the Margaretville bar and then when I ran out I was almost shot in the parking lot. And all the Caymanians just keep complaining about not having any work for there unemployed and meantime myself and all my friends are discussing how we will never be coming back as its unsafe for us.
And I’m sure that which ever country you are running to is so much safer huh
These defensive comments are so tiring. Chip on your shoulder much? Most of us come from large countries populated with millions and millions of people. You can’t compare the crime on your itty bitty rock to crime in the US or UK. Get a grip.
On this weekend of remembrance far too many local people think their freedom is a birthright to be abused. It is not, the price paid by others enables you clowns to live the lives you do, on one of the richest places on earth. Yet in return you offer nothing to the world but greed, envy, self entitlement, violence and bigotry.
Try getting of your couches, put your patty and phone down and actually fight the evils that blight this place.
Others, who may never visit this island, are prepared to lay down their lives so you can live yours, what do you do to ensure your country is safe?
Perhaps you should start sending those cowards who hide behind gang colours and pathetic tattoos to join our gang and shoot at people who will shoot back, and won’t miss.
Yep, put them in the British or US military and turn your apron tugging whiners into real men who actually stand for something instead of themselves.
The 4 Caymanians I work with didn’t even know what Remembrance day was….. A holiday to fry up some fish seemed to be the common answer….
Yes yes yes
“As armed police approached, a gun was fired.”
I’m pretty sure that is an open invitation for the police to shoot the POS. Why didn’t they return fire? If there was a large crowed and it wasn’t deemed safe I understand, but otherwise they should have shot this scum!
wha Frank Sinatra sang: mama got mambo…papa got mambo..??we all gone to the roosters!?
By the way Dean Martin sang that song – not Frank Sinatra
If you dont like the crime and jam culture then you need to leave so crime can take over 100%. I have lots of friends from neighboring Islands who want to come here and feed off the wealth that has been built up over the years from expat investors. Ma friends have nothing to contribute, but dey sure know how to steal jus like da glamourized hollywood portrays of cool criminals.
First of all I think they should enforce 21+ at these events in such clubs, because its Kids (17-20) year old who do these foolishness.
It such a shame that these kids load guns inside the club run down the stairs and start firing-. hello they are families out there, Babies, children running around and these boys just start shooting out into an open area . come on man.
common sense isn’t so common now-a-days.
the streets aren’t safe anymore.
its like you cant even go out no more and have a good time without having to worry if your life will be in any danger over some A%%%%% doing nonsense.
Clubs please start having a 21+ policy and you will see this minimize.
It won’t work as these teenagers will go somewhere else to look for trouble..
…adn we cant mak the kids angry, our pecious angels will suffer.
As a tourist who has been coming here for over 10 years now, I am troubled by the growing number of gun related crimes being reported. One of the main reasons I choose to spend my hard earned vacation dollars here is because I have always felt welcomed and safe. That is changing. I understand no where is 100% safe, but many are safer than others.
Act quickly Grand Cayman to maintain your reputation. In this day and age of social media word spreads quickly if tourists don’t feel safe.
Thank you for putting your thoughts out there about visiting our rapidly new urbanizing island, as for now our paradise is crymbling.
Unfortunately we have this thing called “new urbanism” that has taken hold of our island. And it seems we now have the same new urban social unrest that plagues many urban centres on the continent.
The only way our fast degrading social fabric will change is if the life blood of the tourist industry is swiftly brought to a halt by a bloodbath in central George Town or maybe in our new urban town centre. Then after Tripadvisor and the like start posting travel warnings for Cayman maybe our “head in the clouds” politicians will catch on and do things differently. I’m afraid by then it will be too late and we’ll have to go back to basket weaving and selling thatch rope for the owner of our newest urban centre.
Not too many young ones know how to do that,and the old ones er dying off.i think miss Donna might be the youngest in that line,so it will have to be something else,not plaiting or road making.
I’m with you12:28, however all the thatch trees have been bulldozed to make way for urban sprall.
Years ago, in some strange desperate act, your leaders naturalized a sector of people they should not have. Sorry sounds bad but it’s the truth. Couple that with a defunct educational system, an island with a high price tag, children having too many children, and don’t forget about the always someone else’s thought mentality…then you let all that bake for a decade or so, and boom you have the making of today’s Grand Cayman.
Night clubs should only allow 25 years and older in with a dress code. Solves 90% of the problem
They can’t do that! They wouldn’t make as much MONEY.
New vagrant hang-out.Time to shut her down. Pirates Week causing pirates to run amok. Long gone are the days of a civilized pirates celebration at Cayman Arms.
yep said to see any place….infested and over-run with locals
You obviously don’t remember Dirty Reid’s
Nor do you. It was “Durty” Reid’s and some of the local regulars could at times be extremely offensive.
Agreed 12:04, including the politicians among the regulars. There were plenty drunk men hung around Durty Reid’s spoiling the place for the rest of us before they all climbed in their vehicles drunk out of their minds and drove home.
I owned a bar once,
You are drunk, unpleasant or I just don’t like you ? You are out !
That wasn’t fresh horse or inforno bar , because I have seen many knock down right at the counter .
But I think that Government is ignoring a very big problem CRIME .
I see people saying that they don’t go out after dark , because of the fear of crime . People think about that . What kind of life is that ?
Do we know who is responsible for fixing the CRIME problem ?
We should not be letting Mr Kirkconnell and Mr Bush be talking about spending billions of dollars on relocating corals and building a cruise ship dock . Tell them to fix the CRIME PROBLEMS then we would let you talk about spending that kind of money .
Fixing the crime problems don’t only gives people a good way of life but it is a great asset to the thing that so many people livelihood depends on TOURISM .
Make the owners of the clubs responsible by having them pay a 10.000$ fine for each incident police presence is required.
It will simply NEVER happen again.
What did the owners do? Why would they get charged? The owners can’t control the crime that is occurring. Are you insinuating that the owners knew there was going to be a shooting…in the parking lot?
It was in the parking lot……..
The country’s politicians are in denial as the country is going down the drain into crime. Gated communities are coming and barred windows and doors. Gun crime is now common place and drug gangs abound the island.
There are people living in fear in this country and the uselessness of politicians offends me.
Thanks Mac the economic dependants of the 3000 economic dependants are coming home to roost.
Why must all blame lay at the feet of politicians? It is all your children doing this! This s**t is the fault of negligent parents! Stop looking to pass the blame!
Do you read the news… Some of the politician’s kids are doing this crap too!
When will this country wake up to the growing crime in the country? The politicians are unfit for service and the substandard educational system problem clearly is placed at the feet of government.
5:56pm 1. Stop accepting children from other countries, who are bring brought here to get free schooling. 2. Stop marriages of convenience, and allowing them go bring their children. 3. We have our own, who have problems, deal them. Stop the immigration process. Jam the useless ones in HMP and rid the streets of problems.
I dont know about you but I get real jittery when I hear “I am from the government here to help you” brace yourselves folks.
Cayman? What’s going on Cayman? You lost your culture and now you cry. Get up and fight back!!!!!
Lost culture? Nope. We’re giving it away! Things will not change until Caymanians are unified and for that to happen we need better leadership.
What on earth is this island coming to. Weekly reports of gun crime, stabbings and drunk drivers. Then there’s armed robberies and muggings, rapes and child abuse. Who in their right mind would want to vacation here!! You’d be afraid to walk the streets at night. You’d be confined to your hotel.
I always come here because I’m an ex resident that worked here and love to see old friends and work colleagues. I know where to go and where not to go. Cayman is not a safe place anymore!
5:45pm The gate is open and everyone who enters, is here to stay. The desirables are out numbered by the undesirables, who bring their bad habits and trades with them. It is time for all of us to report and deal with the migration problem. Too often, un-documented individuals are found here, or overstayers have remained here, moving from one district to another. Certain politicians need to take the web from over their eyes and clear their brains and get the job done.
I miss the days when we were real men in Cayman.
Only a scared yssup grabs a gun to settle a beef.
Man-up guys. This is not a good look.
– Who
And this is why GT will never be a safe place for tourists and residents when local kids are out causing mayhem.
Contraception contraception contraception.
Mandated abortion for anyone with a criminal record or a sperm donor with a criminal record.
Abortion Abortion Abortion
Yep! Would be a good start!
I am happy to see that the Police is saying gun/firearm , instead of a imitation firearm or gun . Maybe they finally got it that real guns are on the Islands.
There is not a gun shop on the islands. It is a known fact that they are being smuggled in along with drugs. Is there an answer to the problem?
Guns Guns and more Guns
And our dear premier is still saying that there is no trouble. My gosh how bad does it need to get before you call in some real enforcement of our laws, stop the willy nilly entry of anyone to the island and try to get all the local people employed. Yes some do not want to work and seek this type of lifestyle but the social fabric is crumbling before our eyes yet the people in power are only looking into the sky. The family structure which used to be our bedrock is pretty much gone and this is more of the results. Let the Dart Group deal with it and I bet it will be stopped very quickly. The politicians give them everything else so let them get our security under control because the current method is not working at all!
Understand this. Cayman’s problem are due to lack of proper leadership. The politicians are self-serving narcissists who squabble over finances while people are stabbing each other over $200 sneakers. This has been going on since the late 80’s and it’s only going to get worse if we don’t demand more of them.
As for the Premier. We need someone with more backbone who values Caymanians more than ‘unity for all’. Caymanians need to be FIRST in Cayman! Plain and simple. That’s the way it is in other countries, so why are we second-class citizens here?
For example, why is our public transport system 100% Jamaican-run? No wonder there are daily complaints. Jamaicans don’t follow traffic laws in their own country so why would they do it here. I’m in my 40’s and I’ve always heard stories of overloaded public buses in Jamaica getting into accidents, falling off cliffs or crashing into things and killing dozens of people. So why are they running OUR bus system? People are complaining DAILY. THEY ABSOLUTELY SUCK AT WHAT THEY DO!!! We need a clean slate of the Public Transport Board. People with more progressive ideas, a new law to punish the drivers for reckless driving and a 3-strikes rule for dereliction of duty to those that refuse to complete their rounds of the eastern districts.
When did the premier say there was no trouble!?! And if you were premier, with the same powers he has under the constitution, what would you do?
These young losers have to ruin everything for everyone.
It stems from poor parenting, some too busy to see what is happening and others not concerned with what’s happening. Mr. Premier, do we need anymore work permits, status or PR? Show your face, open your, say something, we are waiting.
And we are sitting down and letting them young thugs ruin it for us . If we the people don’t speak up and demand change crime would get worse .
…..and they escaped. You had guns.. shoot them as well.
Another reason my caymanians wife and myself don’t go out much after dark,
People have been getting murdered in the Elmslie church parking lot since long before Margaritaville was there.
Yup, can see what’s going to happen to “club ville” a next Nectar…smh