Active COVID-19 cases rise to 2,661
(CNS): In an effort to improve data reporting after a few weeks of struggling to keep up with the sudden surge in community transmission, Public Health released new pandemic statistics Thursday evening reflecting that day’s 1,098 PCR test results, which showed 186 new cases of COVID-19. As of 8am Thursday, there were 2,661 active cases of the virus with an additional 184 community infections, including just two more cases on the Sister Islands, plus two people leaving quarantine. Hospital admissions remained at 15, with three people in the ICU.
Meanwhile, those in quarantine or isolation had increased to 4,854 people, more than 6.8% of the population. The total number of cases recorded since the start of the pandemic stood at 3,938, with 3,215 being recorded over the last two months.
The Public Health Department also confirmed that up to 8am on Thursday, 11 November, there had been 976 total positive lateral flow tests since the introduction of home testing.
As of 8am Thursday, 57,357 people, or 81% of the estimated population of 71,10, have had at least one dose of the vaccine, while 55,157 individuals, or 78%, have completed the two-dose course. In addition, 6,921 people, almost 10% of the total population, have now had a booster does as well.
The vaccine clinics have temporarily run out of vaccines and closed Wednesday afternoon. However, more vaccines are expected to arrive on Friday’s British Airways flight and the clinics are expected to reopen on Tuesday.
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In other news, the total deaths among the vaccinated population remains at zero.
FDA Briefing Document EUA amendment request for Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for use in children 5 through 11 years of age
“To provide a vaccine with an improved stability profile, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for use in children 5-11 years of age uses tromethamine (Tris) buffer instead of the phosphate-buffered saline (PBS) as used in the previous formulation and excludes sodium chloride and potassium chloride.”
So to counter the effects on the heart of the original vaccine, the new one for children contains Tromethamine?
Here is an accepted list of potential side-effects.
https://www.drugs.com/sfx/tromethamine-side-effects.html
Sssh donāt tell anyone, you may be labeled as a Tin foil hat wearing nutter despite the fact you are speaking truthā¦ssssh
Racist !
Itās got nothing to do with āto counter the effects on the heart of the original vaccineā. This is disinformation. Itās a common stabilizer used in many products and thatās what itās being used for in this case.
Have a free fact check
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSL1N2S31ML
While it is true to say tromethamine can be used to treat metabolic acidosis, a condition linked in some cases to heart bypass surgery (go.drugbank.com/drugs/DB03754), it is also a common stabilising ingredient, known as a tris buffer, in vaccines, medications and other non-medical products (here).
One of the biggest disadvantages of the Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccine for COVID-19 is its strict storage requirement at ultra-low temperatures. Once thawed, the formulation is left with a month-long shelf life in a refrigerator (here and here).
The company told Reuters in an email that replacing the vaccineās phosphate-buffered saline for a tris buffer would elongate this time period.
āSimply put, this allows the mRNA to resist being degraded for a longerāÆperiod of timeāÆbefore administration – meaning the pediatric vaccine can be stored for 2-8Ā°C in commonly available refrigerators for up to 10 weeks,ā a Pfizer spokeswoman said.
āThis buffer will also be used in theāÆupdated adult/adolescent 30mcg dosesāÆin due course, helping to ensure simplified handling of the vaccine across age groups.ā
She added: āThe manufacturing processes involved in producing the pediatric dosesāÆremain unchangedāÆfrom the adult and adolescent doses. There are also no changes in raw materials, mRNA, lipids or suppliers in the manufacturing of the drug substance and lipid nanoparticles (LNPs).ā
Experts at Meedanās Health Desk, a group of public health scientists working to tackle medical misinformation online, pointed out that tromethamine is also used as a stabiliser in Modernaās COVID-19 shot, as well as other vaccines and medications.
These include the vaccines for Ebola, dengue and smallpox, and the diabetes medication known as Humalog.
āBeyond the medical industry, tromethamine is also used as a stabilizer in fragrances and cosmetics,ā the Meedan scientists told Reuters via email. āPreviously, the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine for older age groups used another buffer called phosphate-buffered saline (PBS). The addition of tromethamine is meant to help prolong storage times and is considered a minor change to the vaccine formula.
What is the accurate percentage or number of vaccinated people living in Cayman? As the Deputy Premier himself had admitted that his children and sister who were vaccinated here don’t live here any longer. I am sure there are many more children, students and adults who got vaccinated here but don’t live here any longer. So the numbers are screwed up.
Also, in regards to the population, we have had so many new work permit holders come in. Have they been included in the estimated number?
I have been following the C.I. Government Statistics for the past few weeks and we are at the same trend as what Bermuda experienced a couple of months ago. We are going to experience a lot more of the unvaccinated admitted to hospital and will eventually see more people dying. We should be in a curfew right now from 11:00pm-5:00am and this would have curtailed the spread of the virus through the community. Say what you want about the previous Government but they would have emplimented more streaneous rules than what the present Premier is doing. He must be giving in to the money hungry people and you know who they are. They do not give a rat’s ass about how many people loose their lives. The Borders should not be opened until early 2022 until we have the present community spread under control.
I did not support the previous Government in the last Election but sometimes I wish I had. Mr. McLaughlin and his elected members would have handled this Pandemic in a much different way.
God Bless these beautiful Cayman Islands that I have called home for the last 60+ years.
Why should the vaccinated have restrictions because of the unvaccinatedās stupidity? Your curfew idea isnāt bad but should be for vaccinated only. They should have got vaccinated 9 months ago. Their fault if they end up in hospital.
Don’t put your mouth on the unvaccinated. The Uk has seen more vaccinated hospitalize (btw february to september) than unvaccinated. Source news – https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/18/fully-vaccinated-account-for-74-percent-of-covid-19-deaths-in-the-uk/ .. I don’t know what it is now, but reports are still saying the same. And don’t even mention Israel.
Lol – linking a known conspiracy theory site as your source of information. You are a fool.
You might want to check out table 5 of the true source document. You know, so you know what you’re talking about.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf
Table 5 indicates that most of the cases are unvaccinated. Did you actually look at the table yourself?
So, everything that doesn’t fit your narrative, is a conspiracy theory?
Yeah, itās just me:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.logically.ai/articles/actors-behind-uk-misinformation-site-the-daily-expose%3fhs_amp=true
https://fullfact.org/online/fully-vaccinated-deaths-daily-expose/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chillfiltr.com/exposing-daily-expose-a-beginner-course-in-spotting-dishonest-media/amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.logically.ai/articles/actors-behind-uk-misinformation-site-the-daily-expose%3fhs_amp=true
But keep on spreading fake news, conspiracy theorists. You are still a fool.
The same can be said about your Logically.ai articles. You same way rely on them for your source of truthful information, calling the other conspiracist.
Go ahead and post articles that say those sites are fake news then. Oh wait ā¦ there arenāt any. Stop your conspiracy theory ignorance and get vaccinated you foolish person.
Why would you want to put your mouth on an unvaccinated person?
You do understand you canāt compare total numbers of hospitalization without knowing the proportion of the vaccinated and unvaccinated population, right? If you had 100 people , 10 in hospital, 9 of whom were vaccinated, it means nothing unless you also know that 99 of the hundred were vaccinated so the hospitalization rate for vacc is 10% and 100% for unvaccinated. If you look at the stats more closely you will see a very high proportion of the hospitalized vaccinated are amongst high risk groups, where vaccination rates tend to be far higher. It doesnāt make it any more sensible not to be vaccinated if you can be, no matter how much the anti vaxxers want to spout it. They seem a little shyer about looking at relative fatality rates within age groups lol.
Shhhh – youāre throwing cold water on a hot conspiracy theory talking point.
A good explanation to the public regarding risks to certain individuals would have been the best way to go about confronting this virus. Nearly all of the severe cases involved those with certain risk profiles mostly due to age and comorbidities. The vaccination rate would be much lower, but in reality most people don’t need the vaccine to be safe. The virus would run it course, the vulnerable would be protected (as well as those who felt better taking the vaccine) and the community would have the gold standard in immunity.
I don’t believe there is any science contradicting this theory. In fact, many if most countries with the highest vaccination rates are statistically fairing no better or even worse than countries with lower vaccination rates. The statistics are available for anyone to see.
Name me a 20 per cent vaccinated country that is doing better than a 80 per cent country. Youāre talking nonsense. I give you Peru and Brazil for example vs the uk and Israel. The latter two a million miles ahead of the first two due to vaccines. And pleas factor in society being open in your calculations. Cases always increase in vaccinated countries that remove restrictions and lockdowns. But those cases donāt matter, as they donāt lead to death.
Sweden, India, Africa
Uhā¦ since when is Africa a country? Lol
India!? One of the worse hit countries in the world. They were queueing for oxygen that increased 500% in price as india ran out, and burning mass piles of Covid ravaged dead bodies in mass graves for months. You canāt be serious saying India faired well? And Africa is not a country!
It’s easier to say Africa than name individually every country within Africa all of which have low vaccination rates and low deaths per million.
India’s death per million count is 331 @26% vax rate. By comparison Israel @80% vax rate is nearly double at 657.
If you believe the officially reported Indian death rate you are very silly. Same for China.
Sweden is over 70% fully vaxxed you ninny. India 52% partially vaccinated and one of the highest death rates. You anti-vaxx people just make crap up or repeat what you see on YouTube videos made by lunatics.
Palestine vs Israel
Palestine isn’t a country.
Each has their own stats. Do you dispute the stats or are just playing captain red herring?
Thank you Dr. Quack. Can you please link the YouTube video where you learned all of this?
Sure. Looking at it as a selfish low risk group individuals you are right. Of course, your approach would result in a greater infection rate amongst low risk groups who would then transmit it to the vulnerable, but donāt let that worry you.
But if the vulnerable at risk were vaccinated, whatās the problem? The vaccine work or not? If it does, then theyāre fine. If it doesnāt, why make everyone take it?
A scene which several of us here on Cayman Brac have now experienced:
Location: Entrance lobby of Faith Hospital Cayman Brac.
They recently placed a facial recognition temperature scanner to screen people who enter the hospital for fever. The placard by the machine, which looks like a large tablet-style smart phone says to stand in front of the scanner. It has a video screen and it frames your head and checks your temperature.
The scanner has a synthesised voice that either says “Temprature is normal” or “Temperature is too high”.
We should think that if the machine reports and elevated temperature that they would be subject to further screening. HOWEVERRR…that is not the case! In every instance I, my family and our acquaintances have witnessed, not ONE person was held back from entering. A few are made to re-scan but even if the high temperature warning sounded more than once, the person was not held back from entering the hospital. No damn wonder Covid is ripping through the islands if this cavalier attitude represents they way Health Services deals with Covid. God help us!
I had these machines in my office in camana bay to enter my office in summer 2020, over a year ago. This isnāt new, what is your point?
His point is why have the machine and completely ignore the results. Thatās pretty obvious – perhaps your office needs a stupidity detector.
Then he wound barred from access to his own office.
So a sick person can’t/shouldn’t enter a hospital is what you are saying. Nice
No, they shouldn’t. If they are sick, they should contact HSA and do as advised. If they come to hospital and the scan indicates an elevated temperature, they should be redirected to an area away from the lobby, for further evaluation. Otherwise, why have the scan there at all? In fact, the scan should be done prior to entering the lobby.
I think the point was that these systems appear rather slapped together, and not coordinated or well-planned.
Itās a hospital. Thatās the reason people go to the hospital is because they have a high feverā¦ Are we just going to close the hospital and not let the sick enter? I donāt see anything cavalier about that
CNS, great reporting as always but there is one statistic that is being reported that needs more context to avoid being misinterpreted.
The ā85% of hospital admissions are unvaccinatedā makes it sound like the risk of hospital admission is āonlyā around 5.5 times greater than vaccinated peeps. In fact that is such a common misreading that I would suggest you stop reporting it.
The way to calculate risk is incidence/population.
Back of the envelope;
80% of the population are vaccinated = 56,000
Vaccinated people in hospital = 2
Hospitalization rate (vaccinated) = 2/56,000 = 0.0036% or 1 in 28,000
20% unvaccinated = 24,000
Unvaccinated people in hospital = 12
Hosp rate (unvaccinated) = 0.05% or 1 in 2,000.
So the risk of being hospitalized is at least 14 times greater on average.
You could refine this further if we knew the age of those hospitalized because the vaccination rate among over 50s is 99%. If everyone in hospital is over 50, you have a big numerator over a tiny denominator in the unvaxed group.
We also know that the risk (of death) doubles for every six years in age. So compared to a 20 year old, a 26 year old has twice the risk, a 44 year old has sixteen times the risk and a 60 year old has 64 times the risk. https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1304374544136916992?s=20
Itās reasonable to assume a similar pattern holds for hospitalizations. So for every 64 hospitalizations of unvaccinated 60 year olds there will be one unvaccinated 20 year old, on average.
Woah that’s a lot of math.
Seriously thanks for sharing your stats. I honestly wouldn’t even know where to begin to figure out that stuff.
Itās not complicated. This is maths you earn aged 12
And spelling you learn at age 6.
your math is crap. 20% of 71,000 is 14200 not 24000. That said the accurate math makes your point more strongly.
Your maths are way off. 20% of 71000 is 14200, not 28000
Good catch.
You’d better spend time walking on the beach …your calculations and assumptions don’t mean a didĀ·dly-squat. You wasted your time.
The CDC said last month that adults who got their second Pfizer or Moderna shot at least six months ago should seek a booster if they’re ……
https://www.businessinsider.com/california-colorado-covid-booster-vaccine-adults-cdc-2021-11
Some evidence suggests that vaccine-induced immunity against any Covid-19 infection, including those that lead to no illness or mild symptoms, does wane.
https://www.vox.com/22770682/covid-19-vaccine-booster-shots-policy-goal
get a life, please!
Yawn. More denial.
Eh?
I posted a while back on this. Itās 20-25 times more likely currently in cayman to be in hospital of unvaccinated
The government needs to find a better way to present the data that is leas likely to cause people to draw mistaken conclusions.
I keep hearing on social media that 3 are in ICU. Where has this number come from and are they in ICU due to covid?
Oh the arrogance of ignorance.
Closed minds not aware of what is going on.
The Government now, if someone tests positive and living with other people in the household, they just have to be tested and are give lateral flow tests to keep checking for 10 days BUT can go on their way to work, school, etc. And we wonder why the cases are so high.
The Premier sounds like a complete moron, mocking the CDC. These are the statistics plain and simple and it wasn’t foreigners fault this happened, it was HOMEGROWN. You can open on 20th November, but lets see how many people will rush to the Cayman Islands. That ship has sailed.
Explain then if you like to insult people.
Iām getting text messages from CI Govt to,
āREDUCE RISK of transmission – LIMIT your interactions and attendance at large gatherings STAY INFORMED to KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE: http://www.gov.ky/coronavirusā
a week before the borders open and the masses descend on us, is that right ?
why would the masses descend on you? We’re vaccinated, no one should be going to busy bars/clubs – wear a mask in your workplace when walking around, social distance, ok you have to go to the supermarket but mask up, sanitise in and out, stay 6 feet from people. it’s not hard. The unvaccinated in hospital is their fault, not the government.
The border opening is not going to make 1000 vaccinated tourists and returning residents come toy our house and crowd around you!
If I said it was because I had five loafs and two fish would you believe me ? š„ š£
Sounds a religious reference? Apologies but I donāt understand your response to my original comment and have better things to do than try to translate anything to do with the Bible, which I strongly think causes the majority of the worlds problems
8:51, – Iā not a religious person but thereās no need to squat in the squalor of non-education. If I read a comment I donāt understand Iāll spend 10, 15, 20 minutes researching references until the penny drops and when it does itās worth it, – and besides saying you have better things to do than translate anything to do with the bible yet condemn it as the cause for majority of the worlds problems, donāt you think thatās a contradiction in terms just to begin with ? I would argue itās not the bible alone, for if the worlds population adhered to the one source of faith there wouldnāt be any problems, itās the collective faiths/religions and their potential differences of opinion that cause argument and problems but then in Gods eye who am I to question the varying beliefs of the masses. š
You are truly wacky. I have no idea what youāre on about, but go right ahead with your āloafsā and fish. It sounds kinky, but heck, to each their own!
The fool says in his heart that there is no god.
Ponder that with your superior intellect.
Unfortunately all that food is not making you any smarter.
thumbs up for putting a smile on my face 9:06 , – OP
Tourists will not be attending large gatherings.
Who gave them my number and permission to send me spam texts? GDPR where you at?
You wonāt complain when they text to say a. Tsunami is coming
I suspect this is being done by Hazard Management in the interest of public safety. I also suspect you would like to receive hurricane and earthquake updates. But you cannot have your cake and eat it tooā¦. If you really are concerned and arenāt just stirring the pot, ask to opt outā¦
Iād be very surprised if anyone in ICU is vaccinated. All the over 50s and those with underlying conditions or immune system weaknesses would have had a booster now and were priortised. Sad but the unvaccinated in hospital only have themselves to blame.
The unvaccinated make their own choice. Thatās how it should be. Control over ones destiny is the way. When you get sick though, donāt come crying, donāt call 911, me not feel good. Suck it up and eat a coconut. Life must go on. ā¦. Get busy livin, or get busy dying. Your choice.
I’m not crying nor breaking down the hospital like you wish to sed happen. But you are the one “crying” about us and our freedom. Give it break
Yet.
Wha ??? You are not making any sense… Are suffering from any regret in getting vaccinated? … If not, then what does it matter what the unvax do, or, where they go? You got the vaccine, am I right? SO THAT MEANS YOU ARE SO PROTECTED YOU DON’T EVEN NEED THE HOSPITAL! STOP WHINING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE!
I guess youāve never seen the news reports of overwhelmed hospitals because of unvaccinated covid patients in other countries. Sometimes to the point of cancelling surgeries and reducing care for other patients with other illnesses. No one wants to see that here.
Nobody want to see vaccinated as well overwealming our hospital.
Of course not but since at last report 87% of those in hospital were unvaccinated, that seems less likely.
Inflated percentage when we are dealing with just a dozen people. Before you make prideful comparisons, remember the pandemic is not over.
I have been in Miami for medical treatments and know many doctors and nurses. In miami the hospitalisations are as high as 95% unvaccinated (eg.Doctors Hospital, South Miami Hospital, KEndall Regional) The term “a pandemic of the unvaccinated” gets its name from this statistic. As a vaccinated and boostered older person it has happened that delays happen for surgeries and certain treatments because of the hospitalisations of those unvaccinated. Not taking a vaccine is certainly any persons perogative but only to the extent that it doesn’t affect my ability to be treated. It is unfortunate that hospitals and the medical profession treat everyone the same but there is a huge medical and society cost for those unvaccinated by choice.
5 million cancer and heart emergency operations in the uk are delayed for over a year due to unvaccinated filling hospital beds
Similar situation in Canada. Such a difficult situation for those poor people.
1.05pm Your spelling is overwhelming!.
You just donāt get it. The unvaccinated clog up hospitals, spread it more easily, and lead to higher case rates and potential measures that limit vaccinated peoples freedoms. Look at mainland Europe for example – cases rising again and itās all because of the 20 to 30 per cent unvaccinated who are filling intensive care units.
Your lack of empathy is disgusting.
12:16 Hard to have empathy for the chronically stupid, especially when they are completely screwing up my life after having all this time to have been vaccinated.
They make that choice because it is their right, respect it and shut up
Yes, it is their right, but they canāt then complain when in ICU of they voluntarily chose to not get jabbed,
Of course they can, it is another democratic right. Besides who says they are complaining? I would imagine they probably just want to get better. They took the chance and it didn’t work out. Doesn’t mean they lose rights.
I am ok with the choices of the unvaxxed and ‘freedom fighters’.
I do expect those same people will be equally understanding about the freedom of choice for women over their bodies, especially on the sensitive topic of abortion.
I donāt agree with the anti abortion lobby. However, your simplistic comparison with abortion is a false equivalent- they would simply say that in the case of aborts the womanās choice impacts the foetus, so abortion is a case of enforcing a choice on someone else. You would be far better off making the public health and risk to others of self choice which would at least be logically consistent.
Their rights end at the tip of my nose. Freedom of choice does not mean you can choose to do anything you want when it affects the lives of other people. IF a person chooses not to be vaccinated then everyone else has the right not to have to deal with the results of that choice and that includes medcial services among others.
But the rest of society has to pay a price for their stupid choice.
Donāt you get that Bobo?
Hey, 10:27,
When did you get your second shot? If more that 6 months ago, you are no better off than unvaccinated folks. Those who waited till the last minute are the smartest.
Wrong. The facts show after 6 months, your two doses of Pfizer goes from an average of 99 percent protection against hospitalization to about 83%. Unvaccinated is obviously nothing on that.
we should be following Austria
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10191649/Austria-days-away-placing-millions-unvaccinated-people-lockdown.html
Of course we should. And before people get upset about the children that canāt be vaccinated and people with medical conditions, they are exempted. A lot of people would be more comfortable going to restaurants etc if they knew everyone was vaccinated considering the risk of covid transferring between vaccinated people is so much less. Even if youāre not worried about getting really sick, nobody wants to pass covid on or end up in quarantine.
Right now it seems like we are just watching cases and hospitalizations rise and doing nothing.
Gotta keep the woters happy bo
Wait a minute ā¦ I keep hearing over and over from the cabal types that the rest of the world has learned to live with Covid, so we must, too. How is what Austria is thinking about āliving with Covid?ā
It is living with covid by making unvaccinated have restrictions. Seems fair to me
I love it! Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up! Better yet, letās buy a decommissioned cruise ship and send them to sea on a voyage of the unvaxxed. Within a month or two, they will all be either dead or recovered with immunity. Make Cayman Great Again! Survival of the smartest and richest! Hunger Games! Squid Games! Empathy is for suckers! Greed is good! Older people have lived their life, now itās our turn. Donāt forget to leave your will in order! If we donāt look out for #1, who will? And the best part? PACT sees it our way!
Brilliant plan!!!
because the vaccinated do not need to worry about protecting the unvaccinated conspiracy theorists ………… easy and the vaccinated want their freedom. It also means the unvaccinated stay safe in their own homes with the doors locked. They would be completely safe then wouldn’t they.
We are not bright enough to follow Austria.
Austria is just shameful, and 14 year olds now can see a prostitute for a free jab! You gotta be kidding me!
CNS: Well, someone is kidding you, so you might want to rethink where you get your information from. Prostitution is legal in Austria but it is regulated, and it is illegal under any circumstances to have clients younger than 18. One brothel in Vienna is offering free vaccine jabs on site to adult clients. See more here.
PACT doing great job…as for the unvaxxed..they made their decisions…we cant stay shut forever….time to get us off this 20 mile prison…lol
You have any kids ?
Yep and like many we realise it is little risk to them.
Get over it. Keep your kids inside if you feel it necessary. Jesus Christ already
RELAX! The kids are fine and will be fine.
Equating this island with a prison reveals your lack of critical thinking skills
When you eventually escape this “prison” in which you’ve been forcibly detained, I hope and pray that you run and run hard and never look back.
You never know; we might be hot on your heels to drag you back and force you to endure more paradise!! What a bloody nightmare!!!
Save yourself!
May I please suggest that when Dr Lee leaves his position we just get the Minister of Tourism to replace him? The GT Central Genius seems to know everything about everything.
No – get Jon Jon. I need more laughs!
Yet also nothing about everything. He’s an oxymoron, minus the oxy.
9.28am No, the current policy would be to select an H.R specialist to replace him.
With all this no need for exit testing of positives as some will continue to be positive although non infectious. Yes 10 day isolation is adequate except for symptomatics to isolate 5 days of last day of fever or 10 days which ever is greater.
3.7% of the population. Almost double the world average.
Cayman island will make another “good” impression on the world.
3 in ICU….you all see where this is leading to ?
Pact ministers are all personally responsible for the first deaths.
Yes we do….Life living with COVID and some may die. It is sad but this is the new world we live in and we have no choice.
No. Those who choose to remain unvaccinated are responsible for their own deaths. Can’t hold the whole country hostage for a small unintelligent minority who refuse to listen to science and doctors and get vaccinated.
If you are safe, why are they a threat to you?
They are not a threat to me at all. I was making a point to the initial poster who said it would be PACTās fault when someone dies of COVID. I disagree as if someone is dumb enough to not get the vaccine then they have no one to blame but themselves if they die. Easily preventable with a simple jab.
Who will you blame when the vaccinated get sick?
People are responsible for their own lives and no one else. I would not leave my life in the hands of such incompetents. The fact that you do and then complain about it only proves my point. Good luck to you my friend.
It was a very coveted position to be an audience to the drama unfolding.
Is the fox in the cave yet.
Meanwhile, the total deaths from covid among the fully vaccinated in this wave remains zero.
How many unvaccinated dying?
Get vaccinated and you have a better chance. Or take a chance and win a Herman Cain award.
Is that what the 13 vaccinated people in Bermuda won?
I’m in my 50’s, and I am not vaccinated, and will never be! Yes, I caught Covid and recovered. Was just like a flu. My only complaint was internal fever and body aches. This news may not be pleasing to those who jab up themselves.. yes, I know. But don’t be unkind that many are doing well and they didn’t had to go through with what you did – IT WAS “YOU” WHO CHOSE TO JAB YOURSELF UP. NOBODY FORCED YOU. To be honest, I think the more people get the Covid and recover from it, is the more this “bubble of illusion” that demands vaccine mandates on people appears more silly as the months go by! Even Biden’s attempts in the U.S. is going to collaspe. Ask yourself, what are you trying to accomplish by enforcing vaccine mandates? Create a socialist system?? When PACT government take away our freedoms will it be restored? These are questions you must ask.
Hopefully you didnāt give covid to any of the people in hospital now. But way to look out for yourself and yourself only. Something to be proud of!
Everyone else around “Self less man” had the chance to be vaccinated, so how does him not being vaccinated affect them?
People lost their freedoms during the Spanish Flu too (including required to wear masks)and there were a small number in the population (10-20% depending where you read) that were vehemently opposed to losing their freedoms.
I can’t find any references in the historical accounts that state the freedoms they lost during the Spanish Flu were not reinstated.
I believe we are going to be ok.
Sounds like survival bias. Google it. Maybe you shouldn’t wear your seatbelt either as people die all the time while wearing theirs. But oh wait….. you have to because its the law forced upon us by the government.
My friend, you are one of the fortunate ones thus far. Do you know if you can get covid a second time, and if so, and you do what the outcome will be? You speak of your bad flu, wouldn’t you have loved to be one of the many vaccinated persons who got covid and exhibited no or very mild symptoms. What is your objection to getting the vaccine? Didn’t you have to be vaccinated as a child against the usual illnesses – MMR, Mumps, measles, rubella, etc. How is taking the covid vaccine any different? Can you imagine the world including Cayman at this very moment if there wasn’t a vaccine?
Finally and please be honest, when you learnt you had covid and you were ill – internal fever etc, weren’t you at that stage concerned whether your symptoms might progress and you perhaps could become gravely ill?
My 2 cents, the vaccine is not perfect but it is the best available defense to this deadly virus. Healthy people who decide they are not taking the vaccine without any proper reasons are selfish because like you they may get it and survive, but what about the persons they inadvertently give it to. You (the unvaxed) are part of the reason the virus is able to continue to spread, as unvaccinated people contract the virus easier and they also spread it easier and what they spread is more virulent than if it spread by vaxed persons.
Covid is not HIV where you get infected usually based on lifestyle choices and your illness cannot be easily spread to others, but even though you may get the covid and be fine, you could infect others who may not be as lucky or as strong as you and they become very ill or even die.
Fact#1. Natural immunity is PURE GOLD. You can’t beat it. And Fact#2. Vaccinated people likewise contribute to the spread and mutation of Covid BIG TIME. Fact#3. Many law-makers refuse to follow ALL the science. They are not experts. E.g. our CMO is not even a virologist.
#pureblood
According to the cdc Ppl with natural immunity are over 5 times likely to catch COVID again compared to the vaccinated. How is it gold? who told you that foolishness?
From time I read “you are one of the fortunate ones thus far,” I know you are one of the less educated ones thus far. Covid has a 99.6% survival rate. There is no need to shut down an economy, cancel people’s freedom, inoculate people’s children, stick swabs in people’s nose every month over this virus!
This is very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones around the world because of covid. We do need to live with covid but that doesnāt mean that we shouldnāt take it seriously and do what we can, including getting vaccinated, to protect people.
We are not the world and what your overseas media broadcast – We are the Cayman Islands!
Why can’t people understand this. Sigh….
I know plenty that have had corona a second time – some after the initial infection (months later) – all were very mild on the second infection. I know those caught it prior to the vaccines, later took the vaccine, and then caught it for a second time – mild yes but some were out for a week. And I know those who never had an infection prior to the vaccine and caught after fully vaccinated. About the only think you can say about the vaccine is it lessens the severity. I have never heard of a vaccine where its effectiveness is dependent on those who won’t take it.
The other vaccines you mentioned are not mRNA vaccines. It would behoove one not to hate their fellows – the long term effects of the this vaccine ARE NOT KNOWN. FDA approval is revoked on average of 4.2 years after a medicine has been approved.
You may need the unvaccinated to help care for you later.
We can’t take responsibility for ourselves here so we must do as our master says or face getting a real job. You try getting a job when you have no skill or work ethic and Civil service is full. Socialist system is what we want for all Caymanians. No work, no jobs, no economy so we are all even. And if you really want to take responsibility for yourself and get a good job and prosper you need to take that entitlement attitude and leave with it.
Ever heard of Polio?
Hospital cases should be the focus. We know Covid is freaking everywhere.
Last year, when we all had to endure the inane ramblings of donkey man, the numbers of positives were relevant because it determined how long we’d be stuck in the house. We’ve moved on since then.
These reports reflect the reality the rest of the world has faced months ago and is still facing.
The rest of the world seems to be getting on with life without the hysteria which I have had the pleasure to experience first hand.
Cayman as usual gripped by a toxic combination of religion, fear and stupidity.
I would question how blessed you really think you are.
Deluded is more accurate.
What happened?
Seems like the masks are working great…
Seems like a sensible time to consider reopening…
There are only 6-8 hospital admissions in the UK per every 100,000 people for Covid. Cayman has vaccinated more of its population than the UK. 85% of admissions here are unvaccinated people. A country can’t stay shut for the sake of protecting a minority who have not themselves volunteered for protection through vaccines.
Sure, let’s invite tourists to come to Cayman with the highest infection rate per capital in the world and just placed on the CDC red list. Right, CITA?
The Big Kahuna say CDC ratings donāt matter. Kenny B. agrees. They should know because they are of superior intelligence, otherwise they wouldnāt be our leaders.
We don’t care. Corona is so 2020 – everyone has moved on, except CI. We ain’t scared.
If people are wearing masks – people are still having parties, not social distancing and not wearing masks. Despite the numerous requests to behave responsibly this weekend there will be a lot of parties and a further surge of cases after this long weekend.
Yes, and those who tested positive during the recent surge are being released from isolation, immediately partying to celebrate their “immunity” and possibly causing another surge when they carry the virus around!
Parties already in full swing. Several loaded carts of alcohol seen at Blackbeard’s and Jaques Scott and the public beaches are already littered with rubbish. It’s the end of the world and I feel fine time.
Masks massively reduce the risk of transmission to strangers when you pass by in supermarkets etc. Covid is likely spreading in situations where masks are not being worn. The science is: masks work. That’s why medical professionals the world over wear masks and forms of PPE …even since medieval plague outbreaks. I hope this has helped catch your knowledge up š
Good job pact. Opening up to destroy the country.
I hope they are making Monoclonal antibodies available for those vulnerable.
Yeah, right. Appears No Early treatments that prevent hospitalisations. Only paracetamol. Meantime official and unofficial protocols that stop covid progression into respiratory failure do exist and work perfectly. Certain medications and supplements administered at the right time, in the right doseā¦but I am not a doctor and not allowed to say anythingā¦
Many in my immediate and extended family already had covid, some last year, some in 2021. All are fine. Some had hardly any symptoms, others, being in a high risk group, followed the DIY at home āhospitalisation preventionā protocol.
I thought ‘monoclonal antibodies” were politicians who only look out for themselves, we have plenty of them.
BUT hardly any needing hospital. Says a lot about where we are. These figures would have buried the Islands 18 months ago.
Check back in two weeks and see if youāre still so smug.
Okay. Letās see who passes in the next two weeks. Road accident? Cancer patient with Covid? Heart attract patient with Covid? Patient with serious underlying illnesses? Or 5 perfectly healthy persons in their prime?
Yeah, ignore the history of this pandemic that has killed over 5 million people to date. Itās all good.
If you want a reference from history that is far more relevant to us in the Cayman Islands, you might want to have a look at Covid deaths in the Cayman Islands. Only one death from a probable locally-acquired infection.
Or shall I watch a Marvel film to learn about the shield around Wakanada that people like you believe is in place here?
I was going to explain math to you, but thereās no point.
The majority of those that died from the virus were elderly and most deaths occurred before the vaccine was available. We are not ignoring the history of the virus we are recognizing that we are in a good position with vaccinations and that this is the best time to reconnect with the rest of the world. There will never be an ideal time because the virus is here to stay. We all know there will be some ups and downs as we move forward but in all reality we must open up.
I agree with you that we need to open up and there isnāt an ideal time. But there is an alternative to just letting covid rip through the population and possibly sacrificing some people. There are public health measure that could be taken to further encourage vaccination and slow the rate of transmission.
Correct. Pre vaccines, 1000 would be in hospital by now
*this is not front page newsā¦
All unvaccinated. This is not drink page news outside cayman. The US just warned the EU that they think Russia are invading tonight. Thatās news.
The US is omitted to say that their warships are ācruisingā Black Sea, and what Ukraine is planning, with the US support, at Donbas region.
9:13, On a day when Moscow announced a new record for COVID cases with a lockdown in place.
This canāt be right – the world has learned to live with Covid and that is why Cayman must, too. Lockdowns are not āliving with Covid!ā