Eight people in isolation test positive for COVID
(CNS): Eight travellers currently in isolation have tested positive for COVID-19 in the latest batch of results released by Chief Medical Officer Dr John Lee. There are now 18 active cases of the virus among those in government quarantine or home isolation, six of which are showing symptoms of the virus. No details have been give about whether or not this latest group of positive people have been vaccinated. CNS asked at the press briefing last week, and has since followed up our query, about the percentage of vaccinated individuals who have been positive for COVID-19, and we are still waiting for a response.
With Cayman counting down to 14 October, which is the date when quarantine restrictions will be lifted for those who are fully vaccinated, the clear evidence across the world that those who have had both doses can still spread the virus is raising concern for parents, given that th vaccine is not yet approved for children under 12.
The vaccination clinics were closed in Cayman on Monday, so the national rate for those who have had at least one dose remains at 72% of the population, and 70% have completed the full course.
Even though the vaccine is proving to be extremely successful at preventing people who contract COVID-19 from getting very ill and dying, the Delta variant of this virus is proving capable of infecting people who are fully vaccinated, who can then go on to infect the unvaccinated.
Over the last few days countries all over the world are reporting extremely high infection rates and hospitals are once again seeing a surge of patients.
In many of the US southern states, such as Florida where many travellers passing through on their way to the Cayman Islands, hospitals are running short on oxygen as the numbers of unvaccinated patients continues to increase.
Jamaica, another gateway for Cayman’s repatriation flights, hit a record number of infections in one day on Saturday and in the UK, where 80% of the over 16s have been fully vaccinated, the number of infected people is still high, with around 32,000 people on average testing positive every day.
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Just buy plenty facemasks , and get vaccined
How do we socially distance ourselves from our children? Can you tell me that?
Wear a mask around child, dimwit.
All day and night you idiot?
Yup. I mean, come on. It’s been said so many times.
To protect your child, you get a vaccine. You social distance from others. You wear a mask in high traffic areas. You wash your hands. You do all these and your chances of bringing home covid is extremely low.
Depending on your child’s age: They get vaccinated. If they can’t, they wear a mask when in high traffic areas. They social distance when possible. In schools, the desks should be spaced apart. On buses, they should wear masks. Play outdoors whenever possible. Indoors have good circulation. Wash hands and clean surfaces. These are common covid protocols that have been listed over and over again. Nothing is full proof, but we must do our best to live cautiously and follow the necessary guidelines. The island can be open and successful with very little disruption with a little thought put into these protocols by all. The world has been living this way for over a year. If more people got vaccinated, it would help. That should be the first step in protecting your family.
Reading these comments makes me sad for the people in the Cayman Islands. The level of terror is off the charts with the commenters. Like bugs in a jar – the authorities shake the jar and the bugs fight each other.
Each shake of the jar:
The unvaccinated are the problem
The children who can’t get vaccinated
The next variant is coming
The vaccine isn’t working
The proof of vaccination is not verifiable
Not enough hospital beds
A movie about this wouldn’t be believable unless it was Monty Python.
https://www.royalgazette.com/health/news/article/20210831/covid-19-claims-34th-death-as-active-cases-rise-to-205/
Fear is rational
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/09/01/covid-vaccines-mask-mandates-hospitalizations-cases/5672901001/
Lee Health COVID-19 numbers show slight improvementfrom recent surge.
https://www.winknews.com/2021/09/02/lee-health-covid-19-numbers-show-slight-improvement-from-recent-surge/
There’s No Mystery in Florida’s Covid Reporting
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/florida-covid-19-death-coronavirus-reporting-change-miami-herald-journalist-desantis-11630537356
Next year after the newest loans run out and the money to keep government workers in paychecks slows down to a trickle the Caymanian side of the island will finally start to pay for closing the economy off to everyone else. Plan on having Covid still within the population and a non functioning economy. This is how you pay for keeping Covid out. Great plan for now. No plan on how to fix no money in the near future. No future.
“The Caymanian side of the island” wow.
I hate to break it to you but you have it completely backwards. There hasn’t been a need for a loan. Revenues are higher than ever.
You can always go home. You’re obviously not the “caymanian side”
What a bunch of panic-stricken fools we have among us. Covid WILL be in the community whenever we open…..whether October 2021 or ten years from now. Vaccines have been offered for free for the last 8 months. Get vaccinated!
💥Breaking news:
Israel is now the world’s Covid hotspot: Cases soar despite country’s trail-blazing vaccine roll-out – sparking fears other highly-vaccinated countries will be hit by another wave due to jabs’ waning immunity ,
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/18/world/middleeast/israel-virus-infections-booster.html
Plan B?
No plan B. I dont even remember hearing a plan A. They just opening wihout a plan.
The vaccination sites being open are the plan. Go get vaccinated.You will feel better protected.
These reports of new traveller cases should indicate if any are the Delta variety.
Why? What value is that? It is likely 70% or more.
There are other treatments with successful trials and results but many doctors are afraid to prescribe them or even talk about them. In Ohio a judge had to order a hospital to give a dying patient ivermectin.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21051020-j-smith-ivermectin-complaint
dropbox.com/sh/v0njezpupx8ayjg/AAAHfWPH0RhjQn0oh8CEY32Ka/NOV 03 2020 Elections?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1
If ou want to see an aggregate of the studies on (human grade Dr. prescribed) Ivermectin. They are consolidated here:
https://ivmmeta.com/
Cuckoo for cocoa puffs vibe
“So scared about dying, that they forgot about living”.
Bs
If people are going to take farm animal medicine worm instead of a vaccine than society is doomed. But at least it’s the part of society most of us avoid.
What a jerk you are. My family live in a country where no vaccine was available. Two of them got covid and were treated with ivermectin and came through it. It was prescribed by a hospital. So please take your pompous attitude and shove it.
Exactly! My sister who lives in the US has chronic ischemia. There’s nothing American doctors can offer to her. Thankfully in her home country there’s an established course of treatment for her condition, 3 x per year, that makes huge difference in how she feels. The medicine is manufactured by a pharmaceutical company, doctors prescribe it, and a patient can do injections himself. In fact it is sold without prescription.
So if a medicine is not used/approved in the US, it does not mean it doesn’t work. Many countries have pharmaceutical industry and manufacture medicine that is unheard of in the US.
Emergency medicine is excellent in the US. But how you’re going to live after you were “glued” together is another question.
Cayman medicine is following the US model. Thankfully, someone was wise enough to recognize that An Alternative health care clinic was overdue to help people with chronic conditions.
PACT – get with the program!
“Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, said people will have to show digital proof they had been inoculated against Covid-19 to enter a wide range of establishments, dropping earlier opposition to the idea.
From September 22nd people will need proof of full vaccination to visit bars, restaurants, nightclubs and indoor sporting facilities.”
Should really amend your article as it is misleading:
Even though the vaccine is proving to be extremely successful at preventing people who contract COVID-19 from getting very ill and dying, the Delta variant of this virus is proving capable of infecting people who are fully vaccinated, who can then go on to infect the unvaccinated.
Should read:
“.. who can then on to infect both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.”
The Canadian province of Ontario is following other provinces in introducing a vaccine passport that will be required to enter places such as bars and restaurants.
Hopefully our government will stop hitting the snooze button and get on with doing this as well. It is critical that this is fully implemented before they drop quarantine and flood the country with Covid.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-covid-vaccine-passport-certificate-proof-1.6160728
go live in canada if thats how you want to live
Better than the complete border locked down forever.
Actually it isnt. At least until kids can be vaccinated. Who wants to join a protest so PACT knows our views? Dont let powerful foreign interests ruin our lives.
Kids can go to school, no problem. Vaccinate those who can. Wear masks indoors. Social distance and space desks. Hand washing.
Schools are being closed all over the US due to cases. That will be us next. Things were looking better until Delta- this will be disastrous.
Might help if all the adults in the schools were vaccinated.
They can get it and spread it! Are you dumb????
Schools are not closing down in the US
https://districtadministration.com/school-closings-tracker-where-covid-shut-down-schools-again/
Schools are closing and the school year has barely started
Just to show you how useless your post is. There are over 1800 schools in my state. One has closed due to covid. It is a tiny school in the western, rural part of the state. I never even heard of that school or the town …that is how small it is.
They are not closing down like they did in March 2020. You have to take the chart you posted with a grain of salt and know how many schools in each state and how big the schools are/staffing levels.
I hope none of these were teachers going into a mostly unvaccinated population.
PACT needs to also reconsider the phase 4 start date. Please do not start this right before mid-term school break sending anyone straight from the airport into a school after the Oct school break.
Also, please add in both phase 4 and 5 the requirement for both students and all school staff to have a negative test 24 hrs (or the minimum time) prior to entering a school if you traveled.
The elimination of quarantine for the securely verifiable vaccinated visitors as of 14 October STILL depends on reaching the 80% vaccination target. Do all of you really believe we will reach that target? And IF we do, I for one believe PACT will move the goalposts again. I think there are a lot of people stressing out over something that is likely NOT going to happen.
He wasn’t exactly clear on that point. The way he phrased it, 80% sounded like a goal but he didn’t say the border would remain closed if we didn’t reach the goal. I think that was on purpose. Got to keep us sheep confused.
The latest, 45min presentation on vitamin D, broken by chapters for your convenience or specific area of interest. Based on the published studies.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BWl2m5eQzd8
Pact DO NOT OPEN UP THE BORDERS WITHOUT QUARANTINE ,
Agree – This article just came out today: “Mu COVID Variant, Which Scientists Fear is Resistant to Vaccines, Detected in 39 Countries” And the UK & US already have this new variant in their midst.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mu-covid-variant-which-scientists-fear-is-resistant-to-vaccines-detected-in-39-countries/ar-AANZiMq?ocid=msedgntp
look up “viral escape”, and you’ll know why we have the variants, and can expect many, many more.
Get over it and get rid of the quarantine for the vaccinated. Most people, unless in the government quarantine, don’t follow it anyhow.
Learn to live with covid and get over your fears. It is time. Hundreds of posts of panic is just over the top.
Instead get vaccinated. Wear your mask when you can’t social distance. Wash your hands.
Take away the fear and this is what you have. However, Fear is not so easily vanquished. The vaccine is great for this. Take the vaccine if you can and then live with Covid in your life. It’s like living with bad drivers all around but still driving every day.
A Year In, Here’s What We Know About Vitamin D For Preventing COVID
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/14/985863133/a-year-in-heres-what-we-know-about-vitamin-d-for-preventing-covid
…many more people are recovering from COVID at home.
Those at home should have a pulse oximeter and a thermometer to check on symptoms.
In the early days of feeling sick, check with your doctor to see if monoclonal antibody treatment is the right option. It has been shown to prevent severe illness from COVID-19 if administered early.
If quarantining at home, stay in one room and separate yourself from others to avoid passing on COVID-19.
Stay hydrated and take over-the-counter medication like acetaminiphen (Tylenol) to help your body fight off the virus,
“Laying in a prone position on your stomach can also help with oxygen flow to your lungs. Move around as much as you are able, and refrain from laying on your back. If possible, eat to keep up your energy,”
https://www.winknews.com/2021/09/01/lee-health-619-covid-patients-in-hospital-system/
Is mAb treatment available in Cayman? If not, that’s not useful news.
On 18 July 2021, the day before the UK lifted its Covid restrictions there was 1 Covid related death reported. Today, 6 weeks after Covid restrictions were removed, the UK reported 207 deaths. The PACT government’s plan to remove quarantine restrictions here is downright stupid.
Deaths within 28 days of a positive PCR test.
Very few of the 207 will have died from the PCR test.
Or COVID
207 deaths out of how many million populace
The evidence from Bermuda which has a similar vaccination rate shows that what our government is proposing is NUTS!
Bermuda requires arrival testing for fully vaccinated people as well as testing on day 4 and day 10 after arrival. With that protocol they have as of yesterday –
202 active cases (more than 10x what we have) with about 1/2 of their Covid cases being imported cases and the rest being local transmission secondary to imported cases.
(86%) of their imported cases being in travelers who are fully vaccinated, and 6 (14%) are not vaccinated.
If we do not have either quarantine or testing and dozens of fully vaccinated arriving here also have Delta then we are screwed.
We need to all contact our elected representatives and tell them that opening without quarantine and testing is INSANE.
https://www.gov.bm/articles/covid-19-update-31-august-2021
https://www.royalgazette.com/education/news/article/20210901/students-to-wear-masks-when-school-returns/
Next step is school closures. Is this what we want?
WHYYYYYY would we reopen for a week to a month just to go back into lockdown again? This makes zero sense. There is no doubt in my mind that PACT will freak out and put us back into lockdown once cases start popping up in the community. This will not in any way benefit the tourism sector or the economy. It will just delay the economic recovery for tourism even further and will penalize the rest (ahem – MAJORITY) of the island who do not work in tourism.
I just keep thinking of the children. We should be doing absolutely everything to keep them in the classroom. Such dumb decision making being made right now.
That really is the bottom line, or at least your and my bottom line. Our future is those children in the classroom now.*
*Hey! Teachers! Leave those kids alone!**
**sorry, Pink Floyd flashback. As you were.
this day in 6 weeks, headline will be:
8 cases of covid confirmed in community.
next headline will be: cayman re-introducing national lockdown for 4 weeks.
Why lock down…..virus is here to stay and we must live with it.
Yeah but we all are too small so need to get Vaccinated, must people in Can fearing lockdown are the crazy ones that are not vaccinated period an they will be the cause of lockdown….
10:07 am, lots of people won’t live with the covid because they will die
and these people are on the honesty quarantine system????
only vaccinated people should be allow travel/enter cayman.
so how do you keep a virus away???…close borders forever???
At least until everyone including children under 12 have the option to get vaccinated and booster if needed. If we wait a few months this will be the case. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/31/health/covid-delta-variant-children/index.html
Even the third vaccine doesn’t prevent infections. Already over 2,000 triple vaccinated infected in Israel in just 1 week.
https://data.gov.il/dataset/covid-19/resource/9b623a64-f7df-4d0c-9f57-09bd99a88880
Cases between August 15th and August 21st.
2x Vax 3x Vax No Vax Total Vax %
20-29 5452 1911 7363 74.0%
30-39 5719 21 1664 7404 77.5%
40-49 5072 68 1066 6206 82.8%
50-59 2953 513 627 4093 84.7%
60-69 1296 782 380 2458 84.5%
70-79 558 531 238 1327 82.1%
80-89 293 235 107 635 83.1%
90+ 76 56 42 174 75.9%
CNS: To be fair to the commenter, the table of figures doesn’t really work when published – the columns get messed up. However, this data covers cases and does not indicate the percentage of vaccinated who became seriously ill or died.
Here’s the full story on NPR: Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing A Dramatic Surge In New COVID Cases. Here’s Why
Since Israel has a high vaccination rate and used the Pfizer vaccine, it’s definitely worth keeping an eye on, especially their findings regarding the need for boosters.
Reuters: Israel’s COVID-19 vaccine boosters show signs of taming Delta
What we need is some more 24 hour science from the CDC, FDA, HSA and Pfizer to form a solid strategy. Let’s never consider other science outside the realm of our Angelic handlers.
You risk losing the herd when your sublime sarcasm is too ironic. However, well said.
I would still be OK with the 5-day quarantine for vaccinated for now IF, AND ONLY IF, we can add more flights so that residents and visitors can freely travel. The restricted Cayman Airways schedule is ridiculous.
Based on comments on this and other posts, it looks like the main concern is leaving children vulnerable where they have no opportunity to get vaccinated, and more vulnerable adults who are now 8 months post vaccine. So OK, if we want to buy a few more months until a child vaccine is approved (Pfizer is expecting early winter with the FDA) and boosters, I am OK with this.
But my first preference is opening up and moving on with things.
Additionally, if Cayman started testing the unvaccinated travelers at day 10 of quarantine, we could establish data on whether anyone tests positive between day and 10 and 14 and potentially reduce quarantine to 10 days for families with unvaccinated young children. Quarantine would remain, it would just be shortened if the extra days are not actually necessary.
There are situations where children need to travel, including medical reasons.
86% of the more than 200 Covid cases Bermuda now has were detected by their 4 and 10 day post arrival testing not pre-arrival. We need to keep quarantine of fully vaccinated people for at least 5 days and probably test even longer if we are going to control Covid. As a reminder, Bermuda has been allowing in fully vaccinated people and that is how they have ended up with 200 Covid cases and a total of 34 dead since Covid started.
https://www.gov.bm/articles/covid-19-update-31-august-2021
Bermuda’s COVID deaths came almost entirely in April as a direct result of unvaccinated youth returning from the UK, carrying the Delta variant, who then attended illegal gatherings (eg house parties) with other unvaccinated youth, many of whom took the variant home to their unvaccinated grandmothers who contracted COVID and died. An unfortunate tragedy based on a callous disregard for the health of others, and major misunderstandings of the benefits of preventative measures in the face of a deadly disease.
The CDC increased Bermuda’s COVID-19 risk rating to “Level 3 – high” in a travel advisory on the organisation’s website. The advisory said unvaccinated travellers should avoid the island.
We need to keep quarantine! This is bullshit
AMEN!
stay in your house forever
See how Israel is fairing after the 3rd shot, then decide. Too much antibodies are not good.
The media is reporting pfizer has reduced effectiveness against the delta variant and an increase in hospital admissions for the vaccinated. This really doesn’t seem a good time to drop quarantine.
Lock down coming. So sad, after working so hard to keep the virus away, soon opening up to bring the virus in. So very sad indeed.
This is like Biden with Afghanistan.
Get a life
While infections r high proportion of hospitalisation is very low that is a good sign. In one of my comments I suggested,having maintained the buble so long , to observe the trend in us and uk before fully comting to oct 14.
I repeat the request to govt to review by oct 1 and if necessary postpone for a month or so.
We need to start stocking up on oxygen? How many facilities and how much capacity do we have here? We are not going to be able to important from the USA if they are already in dire need?
Excellent point – hopefully somebody at HSA has thought of this but no one has stated that we have enough supply for what is coming.
enough of the scare mongering, just get on with life.
Part of life is assessing potential risks and acting accordingly. Don’t be a clown
Another reason to get vaccinated, if ever you need one by now
Get used to itits coming in October anyway
We would be a glorified bunch of lunatics to open our borders at this point.
The EU has restricted the admission of US visitors to essential travel only. Florida is setting records daily as is most of the USA.
And yet we are choosing at this point to open our borders and remove restrictions?
And turn against our own citizens who up to now have enjoyed the privileges of not having to suffer the restrictions imposed previously.
For what reasons? The Almighty Dollar? Giving up our freedoms to satisfy a few non-Caymanian hotel owners and managers? To only close again in a matter of weeks and go back to square one and start all over again?
This is absurdity at its highest!
Get real PACT. Get real Wayne Panton. Stop this nonsense now before it us too late.
JUST SAY NO!!!
Thank you! – excellent post
9:43 No one cares about you or what you say
Those selfish resident Walmart shoppers- lockdown the boaaarder.. I’m not going to wear a mask because of them and I’m not going to get vaccinated and I’ll never social distance. Who do they think they are? What about the children? Schools will now lockdown forever. All businesses will have to close.
So don’t blame anyone but your self if you get sick and worse die!
This is the world, this virus will be here forever…everyday you get older you are at more risk.
Your choice but a dumb one!
Fear is the mind killer…logic and reason has left the public mind long ago! the witch trials of 1600s make more sense than this!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/09/01/covid-vaccines-mask-mandates-hospitalizations-cases/5672901001/ really?
So, all you who say the virus will be here forever, how do you support this? No scientific or medical data. Viruses have disappeared before or mutated to a less harmful strain. Not hard to find the information either.
Bermuda is a good proxy as to what we might expect, with similar vaccine rates, similar population size, similar workforce. Bermuda is open, with about 50 flights a week.
Bermuda requires quarantine for 14 days for unvaccinated. Vaccinated do not quarantine but require an arrival test, day 4 test and day 10 test. So it is not complete unmitigated freedom, and a bit of a hassle to do on vacation.
Bermuda had 79 positives announced today. Link below. I know a lot of people in Bermuda and there are mixed opinions. Most seem to prefer their openness relative to Cayman’s bubble. Their openness wasn’t/isn’t costless. They had to wear masks quite a bit and they had a couple more periods of work/school from home again, including in the May period.
https://www.royalgazette.com/health/news/article/20210831/covid-19-claims-34th-death-as-active-cases-rise-to-205/
They have also had 34 people die so far in their experiment. I don’t want that here.
People die everyday
Bermuda’s COVID deaths were almost all in April – as a result of unvaccinated students returning from the UK, who brought the delta variant, spread it to others at illegal gatherings, all of whom then took covid home to their unvaccinated grandmothers who sadly died.
Thank you Travel Cayman and Public Health for keeping us safe.
At least everyone can have a front row seat for the pantomime. They should give third and fourth jab to save time.
Yet these fools want to do away with quarantine and open our borders. We need to keep quarantine!