MLAs use privilege to deride gay rights
(CNS): The veteran MLA for Savannah, Anthony Eden, led the charge, once again, of politicians using parliamentary privilege to deride the LGBT community and attack marriage equality. As well as making claims that coronavirus, the recent earthquake, AIDS and even global warming are all God’s punishment for the immorality that foreigners are bringing here, Eden called on government to defy the governor and the UK and not allow equal rights for gay people.
Speaking in the Legislative Assembly on Friday, after presenting a private member’s motion calling for protection for pastors and others if they use the Bible to preach against gay rights with freedom from any consequences, he said that last week’s earthquake was a sign of the “end times”.
“We better take warning for what’s going on,” he said, before quoting from parts of the bible.
Earthquakes are, however, geological phenomena that happen every single day around the world, even ones of significant magnitude, as the Earth’s tectonic plates slip against each other. This has been happening since the early days of the planet’s formation, billions of years before the evolution of our species.
Nevertheless, Eden suggested that the consequences of defying Governor Martyn Roper or any instructions from the UK about imposing gay marriage would be far less than what he believes is the punishment likely to befall us from God’s wrath. The now familiar rhetoric from Eden followed a similar pattern, which accused the local LGBT community of debauchery and trying to prevent Christians from speaking out. This appears to be based on the LGBT community’s wish to be respected and enjoy equal protections under the law, just like everyone else.
Using a private member’s motion as a tool to promote his interpretation of Christianity, he called on government to affirm the right to quote scripture. However, the debate focused largely on the controversies of gay marriage and Eden’s own very well documented homophobia. He even took aim at Sesame Street for its introduction of the subject as part of the children’s television show’s aim to be as inclusive as possible and preach tolerance to kids.
The debate took some two hours from a packed parliamentary agenda, although government has still not addressed the actual violation of one gay couple’s long running rights by bringing the necessary legislation to create a framework for same-sex civil unions.
While MLAs found time to talk about gay people as an abomination and make unfounded allegations that the LGBT community is oppressing Christians and their right to cite scripture, not one of them acknowledged the violation of the rights of Chantelle Day and Vickie Bodden.
Day and Bodden are a same-sex couple who have been refused the right to marry but not offered any alternatives that could pave the way for them to enjoy the right to a private and family life, even though the Court of Appeal has given directions to the government to do so.
It was not clear whether or not government was expected to act in some way in responce to the motion, given that freedom of expression is protected in the Constitution, but it was supported on the government benches. While the point of the motion was unclear, members seized the opportunity to tout their Christian beliefs. Although not all of them spent time insulting and deriding the LGBT community, the issue remained simmering below the surface throughout the debate, with not one MLA offering support to the LGBT community.
Many of them perpetuated the myth that being gay or transgender is a lifestyle choice that has been brought to Cayman, along with atheism, by foreigners. Even Education Minister Juliana O’Connor-Connolly promoted that idea as she rose to support the motion, completely ignoring the significant and increasingly vocal group of Caymanians who are openly members of the LGBT community and a growing section of the population that no longer affiliates with any religion.
Several members of government’s front bench were absent from the debate. As soon as Eden rose to present the motion on what he called freedom of conscience, the premier left the chamber. At the time of the division on the vote he and ministers Moses Kirkconnell, Roy McTaggart and Joey Hew were absent. The former opposition leader, Ezzard Miller, also left the LA before the vote. Although she did not contribute, Minister Tara Rivers did support the motion.
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Well, as a Godfearing person, I do believe God is the source of everything. And if he wants to use earthquakes, fires, and hurricanes to punish the wicked, who says the Almighty can’t do it?
With that said, if Minister Anthony Eden linked this recent 7.7 earthquake to a warning of a coming judgement of God to befall us if we support and implement homosexual laws, that, to me, is not impossible.
Now, respectfully, if you don’t believe in a God, of course, the idea is absurd to you, and your first reaction will be about his mental health.
But if you believe in an all-powerful God that is concerned by how you live, then divine judgements are possible.
Of course, you have to be mindful as well that Eden was speaking to his voter’s base.
But… more so, he was speaking from his personal conviction and belief-system, which is shared by many church goers and religious people.
I personally don’t think there is any MENTALL ILLNESS in fostering a religious belief. I even met an atheist in Cayman who believes in aliens. I don’t think she is a mental case. Its a belief.
I think what matters here most and the commenters are doing a good job overlooking, is the motion Eden brought forward to the Assembly. It may be seen as unnecessary, but it is an important motion that has triggered a favorable vote from all the MLAs in the House. I say in this case, don’t look at the man, look at the motion…
Nevertheless, LGBTQ folk should not be attacking a motion that protects already existing RIGHTS. I find it strange that many are attacking the motion when at the same time, they don’t want their rights trampled on.
Regards
Oh my goodness me. What can one say?
fantastic
To think that this amount of cognitive dissonance can exist in such a small mind is a miracle in itself.
Ladies and gentleman may I present, in all its glory Caymankind. Hypocrites
No, that’s unfair. For some reason….and those of us who have known him and worked with him cannot understand it….Anthony has become deranged. He clearly is not well, certainly not mentally and by the look of him physically. But it does not mean that all Caymanians agree with him, even if we have several bible basher/Old Testament devotees supporting him on CNS. Most young Caymanians think the anti gay stuff of him and Julianna is just pathetic.
Caymanian Millennial here. We’re going to turn Cayman secular and separate the church from state eventually, and there’s nothing they can do about it except moan from their graves, seeing that they believe in the false promise of life after death. 🙂
@ 8:45 am
I tried to give you 100 thumbs up!
THIS IS FOOLISHNESS COMPARED TO CORONAVIRUS.
WHAT CNS AND ALL NEED TO BE DOING IS INVESTIGATING AND PREPARING CAYMAN FOR ANY EVENTUALITY.
CNS: I usually delete comments that are all in caps. Can you please not leave the caps lock on. Thank you.
Courage is not doing this the leftist media will praise you for. Real courage is doing the right and moral things you will be maligned, ridiculed and hated for by the leftist media.
Vote him out – this is no longer an argument about straight/gay.
This is clearly an opportunity to show that in our democracy the power lies with the people, not in the hands of politicians like this who remain in power to keep their group of friends wealthy while systematically failing to address the issues that are really plaguing the people of this country (Affordable Housing Shortage, Rising Cost of Living, Ridiculous Minimum Wage).
This is a call for more balanced approach to democracy rather than this obvious one-sided dogmatic way of thinking that is akin to leaders at the time of Nazi Germany not to mention the obvious smoke-screening technique – I ask is this the only thing this man has to contribute to the running of this country? If so, why on earth is he still in office? It is way past time to put him and his fellow brethren who maintain this mindset out to pasture.
What a screwed up world we live in the man only speaks the truth. But we live in a world that even the truth can be subject to opinion and twisted. In other words everyone knows water is wet but some ass will come along an say is it really and the bad part is you find others asses that say wait maybe he on to something. if you read this and dont understand it dont worry you just not on my level.
God bless.
But which of his statements are part of the truth? Earthquakes and other natural disasters are not caused by homosexuality or “acceptance of sin” – they’re caused by the movements of tectonic plates and other natural phenomena. As for the novel coronavirus, if you see the meat markets in wuhan, China, you’d understand why such biological pathogens jump from animals to humans. Clearly Mr. Eden doesn’t know anything about geology, biology or any -ology. Or maybe he does but is just pandering to his base of ignoramuses.
I guess I’m not on your level then. Because I know that water is not wet – because ‘wet” means “to be covered or saturated by water or another liquid”. So by definition, water is not wet but instead makes things wet; sort of like your argument or lack thereof.
And soooo what? 🤷🏾♂️ You love the religious rubbing, do you? Does it mean everything Eden said is untruthful? No it does not. Eden is standing for principles that pertain to the rights of ALL Caymanians. It would be nice if the lgbt group can show us how they will respect the rights of ALL Caymanians if they get what they want. But to this day, they are taking about full british rule to cancel our democracy. Explain that?!
I almost didn’t dignify your comment with a response. But I’ll bite…
If two women or two men decide to get married, it doesn’t mean that two heterosexual people all of a sudden can’t. It simply means, another set of people get to enjoy the legal benefits and responsibilities that come with marriage. That’s it. There will be no fire and brimstone from above. There will be no mass raping of children. There will be no sudden outbreak of disease. There will be none of that. The only thing I can think of that may happen is closeted men and women who are already married may divorce their opposite-sex spouses to marry who they really want.
Same-sex marriage will strengthen the institution of marriage, not weaken it.
For me, the solution is simple. Put legislation in place protecting the churches and other religious institutions from having to perform wedding ceremonies that are clearly against their teachings. If a church does not want to allow same-sex couples in their congregations, then they should have the right to do so. Outside of that, let people live their lives.
I swear, I really don’t know how else to put it. I guess I can only ask, what are you afraid will happen once same-sex marriage is implemented?
CNS, if you haven’t already done so, perhaps you can post an article outlining all of the fears people have about same-sex marriage and have each point addressed in a calm and respectful manner. I’ve noticed that anytime articles about LGBT rights appears on this site, the same comments/fears are recycled over and over again. Perhaps then anytime the same comments come up again, people can just reply with a hyperlink to that article. Let’s find a way to elevate the conversation. I find the same old rehashed points boring and it makes me not want to click on the articles anymore. I know you’re trying your best though. Cheers.
“Same sex marriage will strengthen the institution of marriage, not weaken it.”
Explain that logic.
Explain how:
2 lesbians will raise a boy to be a heterosexual man?
2 queers will raise a girl to love heterosexual men?
Please explain what a “religious rubbing” is. You lost me…
I have seen this before. Reminds me of when Martin Luther Kings was fighting for equality for black people and white people were hell bent on stopping him. How did that turn out? I will wait!
Q. Why would God, with all of His accuracy and directive powers of wrath, choose that assortment of varying signals of displeasure, to specifically address “the foreigners“ that Caymanians have hired to run the show (and somehow forgetting the born Caymanian LGBT)? The only thing clear about this outburst is that there are mentally impaired people in our LA using mad causality-void theories to guide real life policy. That there are any others agreeing with these nonsensical tirades should give everyone great pause to rethink their assumptions and choices for next poll or election. Take Christianity out of it: these simply are not mentally competent people.
Couldn’t agree more. Even if you believe in this stuff, it still makes sense to ignore the possible existence of magic when you are forming government policy.
Being gay isn’t a ‘lifestyle’ or a choice,
Being a bigot is.
Being a hateful homophobe because your imaginary friend told you so … well, if there is a heaven and hell, I know which one you’re going to.
It seems a lot of people just don’t want to get along with other people any more. Guess what happens next?
Homosexuality is largely not a lifestyle choice, the data show that it is not an absolute. Transgenderism is a lifestyle choice for all but a very small percentage of cases with medical basis for transitioning.
Homosexuality (for most of the impacted individuals) is a genetic deviation from the established and accepted norms. We have to accept that there will always be a percentage of the population that are not what most people would identify as normal. These individuals, like everyone else, have a right to live their lives as they desire once they are not causing harm to other people. People of faith should also have the right to be free from abuse and ridicule and should also be able to practice their faith without being forced to believe things that are not in alignment with their religion.
If the LGBTQ gays only believe in what you posted. But they don’t. Sorry, ITS A ZERO SUM GAME! We must oppose their efforts for their socalled “rights.” They are for transforming our society into their image, STARTING WITH OUR CHILDREN, and we must not allow this to happen.
[ you may not agree with my comment, but this is how I see and the many Caymanians I know view it ]
I don’t agree with your comment, because you’re a terrible person
The LGBT individuals and their supporters have demonstrated that they are just as hateful and intolerant as the people that they claim are infringing on their rights. Their lack of respect for differing opinions is no way to achieve their objectives and will only result in more resentment.
Bigotry is not a “different opinion”. It is vile bullying and should be derided often. Religious bigotry is just sanctimonious bullying. It deserves as much respect as racism (which racists also think is just a “different opinion”).
Tell that to the LGBT individuals and their supporters that have been viciously attacking people simply because they have differing opinions.
But oftentimes the gay community will call any opinion that differs from theirs as bigotry anyway. The same way the label of homophobic is applied to someone that has an opposing opinion.
Saying that natural disasters and pandemics are caused by homosexuality is not a difference in opinion; it is rooted in ignorance. In Cayman, there is a cult of ignorance nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.
what an idiot.
and people voted for this buffoon right?
If they (two men or two women) can reproduce (have a child), then they have proven their case and should be allowed to marry. From creation until now, it was known and understood marriage was between a man and a woman. Prove your case through reproduction.
CNS: This is another utterly mindless, utterly illogical argument that comes up all the time and is just a silly excuse for discrimination. If the purpose of marriage is reproduction and people who cannot reproduce are not allowed to marry, then you must also advocate for a marriage ban for people too old to have children or who are infertile. Marriage under the law is a legal contract which confers legal rights to the couple in question. They are not under any circumstances obliged to have children, and some couples choose not to, some are unable. Either way, it’s none of your business. It’s not as if the world is underpopulated and we desperately need more humans.
CNS, why suspend truth when it suits you?
The poster was accurate.
What gives you the right to pontificate your opinion as truth?
It is just your opinion. One day we will all know the truth. Truth is absolute and holds up in any ecosystem/dimension/petri dish, you name it.
David, please, please don’t seek redemption on the pages of CNS comment section. Go chase something else.
I am not chasing redemption anywhere. I have already been redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ. Have you?
Where did Jesus ever said his blood redeems you. He followed the Jewish scriptures or Hebrew Bible alone (i.e., Genesis to Malachi). He never had the New Testament. Only Paul came up with that teaching of another man paying for your sins with his own blood, and that Jesus is God. And show me where in the gospels, Jesus said “I am God worship me”?? According to the Hebrew Bible, the original Bible, you pay for your own sins by how you live. When the rich young ruler came to Jesus and asked him about eternal life, guess what Jesus told him??? Have faith in a human blood sacrifice??? No! But that he must not call him Good, for there is no one Good but the unseen Creator God, the Father. And that he must deny “self,” be generous, and keep the moral laws like the 10 Commandments. Read thid story for yourself in Mark 10:17. God requires obedience and the SACRIFICE of your heart to him. Your churches have fooled you, collected monies from you when the First Bible clearly states not to give your money to organizations but to those you see in need! Keep following pastors and priests about all you need is faith in Jesus’s blood and see where that gets you. AND even the New Testament has been edited by them – thats why you have different versions. Not even our forefathers off the slave ships from Africa, believed in this nonsense. Instead the white Jesus was whipped into us! David, not to offend you, but in terms of thanksgiving, confession, repentance, where in the gospels do you see Jesus say we must pray to him? He was not God ! Wake up…There is only one Lord and one Savior! The One who even Jesus had to pray to ALLLLL night. Get out of Christianity, bro! That is pagan a religion! Think! Why would God have his innocent son die a cruel death on a pagan cross to pay for the sins of the wicked ??? Think!
Where is the justice of God in that when God is ever merciful and ever just.
Hi Bush, thanks for the response.
Let me try to put my position as succinctly as I can.
God wants to give us an incredible, eternal destiny with Him, His Glorious Spirit and His awesome Son.
The only way we could attain this destiny was to experience a fall from perfection and subsequent redemption through personal choice.
I have made a personal choice to receive Jesus Christ as my entrance back into the eternal dimension from which we originated.
No amount of ridicule will divert me or offend me and I am safe and secure in my Saviour’s love. I wish you all the best.
There is no Fall from perfection. We are created the way God want us to be. Yes, Adam sinned, but that was his sin, not ours. Do you seriously think God would make the innocent guilty for what the parents did??? The Fall was Adam’s fall. We individually may fall by our choices. We are not born condemned that we need a special sacrifice. With all due respect, you are following Pauline Christianity that makes Jesus into a god.
Actually, I am not into religion nor do I follow the Pauline doctrine.
Jesus says you must be born again and Paul says you must be adopted. Sorry, I am not with Paul. (I just alienated 95% of the Christians…oops).
I don’t bother with church either.
I believe in science and to me science proves the existence of God.
We have quantum mechanics and the double slit experiment which manifests the conundrum between the wave and particle behaviour of light. We have fractal shapes that imply that the universe is finite.
For me, all these and many others point to intelligent design.
Since the design is intelligent, it is either governed by love or else this is a macabre nightmare with no hope of salvation.
I have chosen to believe in the love of the Architect of my existence hoping that one day, I will see Him.
Mr. Bush, with all due respect, have a look at John 1:1 and get back to me.
I do appreciate the intelligent dialogue. I am sure we will “buck up” again.
Have a great evening.
David
David, I don’t understand what you’re saying. You said you’re not into religion and yet you’re quoting scripture. Which is it? You have me confused.
“Redeemed by blood”. Yuk, what a creepy, disgusting belief system. Imagine being so intellectually lost that you believe in 2020 that some crazy human sacrifice event thousands of years ago will keep you out of a loving god’s eternal torture chamber. Wow. Tragic.
To someone who has not experienced the redemption of God, your statement is plausible, but to those of us who have chosen to embrace the love of the pure and holy God, we cannot choose darkness over Light.
Seeing what I have seen, and knowing what I have been through, I could never deny Jesus.
The thing is, David, way before Jesus was born, was not God merciful and a God of grace and love? Read the Psalms. Grace has always been available to those who repent. There is no need to follow Paul and his human blood sacrifice doctrine. God does not need to become a man to show He loves you. The fact that you are alive, is grace :)). Again, the churches got it wrong. Peace
In other words get out of here with your logic! I’ve been brainwashed!
Indeed, Paul has always been a shady character. He did make alot of truthful quotes; especially about morality and against homosexuality.. but that story of him seeing Jesus and falling off his horse… when the prophet Jesus in Matthew 24, warned his followers, “if they say I am in the wilderness, don’t go” or don’t believe it. Paul was the first that came up with that story. The true followers didn’t trust him. But at the end, his version of christianity took root in Rome and the rest is history.
What an interesting point of view and I agree with you.
Jesus elevated women with respect, Paul denigrated them.
Jesus said we should be born again, Paul says we should be adopted.
Paul was very arrogant and disrespected the disciples that actually walked with Jesus. He said, “They added nothing to me.”
Impossible, if I had the privilege of spending time with John, James or Peter, I would never stop asking them questions about the Master.
Personally, I believe that Paul the “Apostle’ was nothing more than a deceiver and responsible for the weak Christianity that is ridiculed today.
Pauline Christianity has created the illusion of a weak God.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Paul is the epitome of religiosity and Jesus is the epitome of freedom.
I choose Jesus. When I read my Bible these days, I do not bother with Paul.
6:48 My religion doesn’t recognise Jesus. Is that a problem for you?
David, by agreeing with and defending that comment, you exemplify the unfortunate problem of smart people being mentally diminished by religious belief. Do you seriously believe there should be a fertility test for marriage? That is ridiculous. Give some thought to it and you may reconsider.
The absurd post you defended as accurate said that it has been “one man and one woman since creation”. Um, no. Many cultures have done it differently–including some within that Bible you mistakenly think is some sort of perfect historical document. So clearly it hasn’t always been one man and one woman. Learn some history and anthropology and you will discover in the first five minutes that humans, including some Christians, have bonded and mated in many different ways.
Perhaps there is some absolute truth out there, but you don’t know it. No one does. You should easily recognize and agree with this when you consider the constant evolution of Christianity. What was absolute truth from a Christian perspective a thousand years ago, a century ago, a decade ago is not today’s truth, not according to Christians themselves. Many if not most Christians have accepted course changes on slavery, treatment of children and women, civil rights for nonwhites, diet restrictions, the degree of sabbath observation, etc.
Your negative and intolerant position on gay marriage will no doubt be abandoned by your religion in time. And then someone in the future with your mindset will falsely claim that Christianity has always been correct and true.
#lame
Sorry #lame or who ever you are.
I beg to differ. I have based my opinion on science and personal experience and you are quite welcome to do the same.
Ignorance in action! Who keeps this man in office? That is what frightens me.
Not needing the Courts like you do, but THE PEOPLE OF SAVANNAH is keeping him in !🙂
He needs help, mental health help!
Well, I for one support the LGBT local community. I am anxiously awaiting the final decision regarding the marriage issue.
As a male I am currently in a polygamous relationship with four other very nice women and if the LGBT community can have their marriage rights recognized then the next petition will be to allow poly marriages too.
As it stands now it is only a one male to one female situation. If that law is changed to suit the minority LGBT community the i do not see why our family rights as Polygamists cannot be protected and lawful.
When you open the gate for one thing, then all things are allowed.
CNS: Stop making this stupid argument. The point of marriage equality for the LGBT community is that they should be given the same rights as heterosexuals. So, if the law says marriage is between two people, then two consenting adults should be able to marry whom they love. Polygamy is a quite separate issue. If a society decides to recognise it, then, again, LGBTs should be given the same rights.
The argument that if you allow LGTB rights then XXXX (fill in the blank) will also happen is a logical fallacy. You think it’s clever but it’s just tiresome.
Ignorance can not be fought successfully by truth. Just let them be. By themselves. Alone.
The troubling thing is these people are proving themselves unfit to govern. If they don’t wise up I’ve heard through unofficial channels that the UK will impose direct rule as it did a few years ago in Turks and Caicos and it will reform the electoral system to allow ex-pats to vote, that will clear all of them from the LA.
That’s the best news yet!
Was he not talking about the ignorabt LGBT ??
It was such a mistrial “enshrine” Christianity in our constitution. The Bible instructs/requires that gay men be executed. It’s there, plain to see for those who care to read it. So what if Anthony Eden gets up in the LA, says Cayman should obey the teachings of the Bible, and then simply reads that bit from Leviticus? Is it a crime to call for the murder of gays? Or would that be protected religious expression?
No less than slavery is condoned by the Bible. It even includes convenient tips and rules for optimal slave ownership. So . . . if it’s in the Bible, does that mean we can own slaves in Cayman (again). No, why not? We enshrined Christianity and the Bible in our constitution.
#lame
I would love to hear how the 250+ thumbs downers on this post explain how this is anything but the straightforward truth. If you have a rule that anything in the Bible is protected speech and can be repeated or advocated without fear of retribution, how do you you deal with the pieces that even you realise are archaic and ridiculous in the modern age.
They just conveniently ignore them.
Anyone who protests that much is probably afraid of what they protest against.
Something, something about the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Shakespeare said it best: “methinks thou dost protest too much…”
I forgot that he was still a member of the L.A. – until his stupid comments came out in the news. You really don’t hear anything from him.
Makes one wonder why there are so many ignorant people in Savannah who vote for this old dinosaur?
The only ignorant dinosaur is you.
What is wrong with the thinking of our MLAs?
I would really like to know what skeltons they have hidden in their closets. Much I would imagine and of choice with that.
Being gay is NOT a choice. Therefore, gay people deserve the same rights as those afforded to heterosexuals.
Gayness is NOT a disease. You CANNOT catch it. Rest assured, I would imagine that the majority of gay people in the CI would not touch any of our MLAs with a fifty foot pole.
Wake up MLAs. We live in 21st Century. A time when we should be thinking ahead to best solve more national issues instead of fussing and iniating intolerance on a matter that really has very little affect on these other matters that deserve your utmost attention such as crime, homelessness, unemployment, environmental degradation, rising cost of healthcare for the majority of us, outrageous prices of gas, food, electricity, rent and on and on.
What’s wrong with your head??? Why you can’t understand we don’t your laws pushed on us!
Hmm 🤔 someone send this to Anthony for me please
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/
Seems like you’ve been doing some personal research on the matter.
This is based on the well established fact that people hate what they see in themselves.
2:01 I can’t argue with you because you are a fool and have more experience at being a fool than I do.
LOL but you do have experience!
Hahaha this what happens when you try being logical with the irrational.
Or, irrational like you with the logical who is no fool 😉
God watches over everything and keeps a close eye on you because he cares and loves you as his creation. Wear the wrong clothes and give yourself a bowl haircut though and you go straight to hell you heathen. Seriously, how does anyone still believe in this nonsense in 2020? Just live your life and treat others how you would like to be treated. It’s not difficult.
The same way you believe in a gay gene …. all myth and no substance!
The FATF has put a figurative gun to the LA’s head and forced it to pass laws that could destroy our economy and these fools don’t even read them, let alone fight back.
But interfere with their ability to judge others for what they do with their private lives and suddenly they’re willing to defy international standards.
They are literally too stupid to appreciate the irony of spraying intolerance, hatred, oppression, judgment and condemnation in the name of their supposed peaceful, loving and inclusive god.
Anthony maybe an old fossil. You may call em names. You may lick em down for dead. But he’s rising back up again and again. You misfits may try and cry. But you are not going to get rid of Anthony Eden. I can tell you, he is well protected by the Most High.
Most high? One of those tall buildings on 7MB?
Snoop Dogg
Lol
😂
Probably, In which case he should be supporting the 50 story building!
In your coming tsunami, maybe you should take shelter in one.
No, he is protected by a lot of stupid voters in Savannah. Says a lot about the people who live there.
This hate should reach the international media! At least the UK media. This is nothing shy of hate and ignorance. And he calls himself a Christian?!
It’s all over Facebook,for example. People in different corners of the world are learning it. And commenting. Horrible publicity, really. It’s very sad how some will do anything imaginable and not to deprive others of the same rights they enjoy.
And I guess you’re all over facebook too 🤣
Caymanian Christian. They are a special kind. Full of bliss. They are never wrong.
People of the LGBTABCEF group already have every right as a straight person, with the exception of marriage. Marriage is defined in the law as one MAN and one WOMAN. We should not be changing laws for people who represent less than 1% of the population. The general public doesn’t attacks them, deny them employment or make them feel unsafe to venture outside and display their life style. If anyone says that I’m lying please make sure to record a video and send it to one of our News providers.
This will set a bad precedence for any other group who feels like they’re a victim, notice I said FEEL, just because you feel something doesn’t make it a factual.
If you don’t like the laws the Cayman Islands simply apply for a British passport and go have a happy life over there.
@2:01 pm- I wish we could take your ignorance and toss it in the sea! If you knew anything at all about the LGBT community here, you would know that most of them carry CAYMANIAN passports b/c they were born and raised HERE! They also do NOT have the same rights as you and I. They can not be married, which is a big deal b/c if one person gets sick, the partner can not visit or legally assist with decision making if they’re in the hospital… if the partner isn’t Caymanian, they have limitations to where they can work, how they can work, etc etc. These are BASIC, HUMAN RIGHTS. Last time I checked, regardless of your sexual orientation, you’re a HUMAN, so we should all have the same rights and benefits.
First of all, even if most of them are born and raised here, they’re still less than 1% of the population. How come you didn’t address that part of my point???
Second, if they are it would be easier for them to obtain said British passport.
Third, They do have every BASIC HUMAN RIGHT and that includes the right to complain and play victim in order guilt the majority into changing Laws that only suit them and not everyone!!
Why exactly does equality not suit you? Or someone else? What exactly do you have to lose? 1 % you say or less? This part I just have to laugh at….. Cayman has so many LGBT people I could never have thought…. a lot in the closet, that is true.
That’s a lie
Unless you are an unborn child less than twelve weeks, the we can kill it. Man has conveniently decided it is not human..
One Word: It’s murder !
2:40 Except MARRIAGE!
Ephesians 5:25 ” For husbands,this means love your wives, just as Christ loved
the church.
Your side lost the judicial review twice!
And you’re still going to be ticking single on forms and applications
lol.. so true
lol … the over 400 down raters are so confused. They must have multiple personalities. :))
So you are saying that if a Caymanian doesn’t like a law they need to move to England? Shit if that happened there would be no Caymanians left you twit.
Only people who respect and assimilate to our laws and culture would be left. What a wonderful place that would be.
Oh and Caymanians don’t say “twit” so stop speaking for us!
Thanks
replace every time you say gay with black or woman and see how that fits into your life. People do not choose to be any of these things, they just are and strive to live a life that is free, true and happy, if that doesn’t impact others what do you care? How does me being gay impact your life? If we are equal you should not be affected, right?
Please don’t compare the color of my skin to your conditioning. They are not the same. And I find it insulting. This is not the U.S.
Ummm, they are the same. Both are god given attributes that cannot be chosen.
Not too smart. So my skin color has to do with me feeling attracted to a woman? And hence I qualify for civil right to be with a woman? Smh .. boy ya really a smart cookie, are ya
2:01, that is what the son of one our MLAs has done…gone to live in the UK many years ago. A born Caymanian has to go abroad to live s normal life. Another person, a sibling of one of our MLAs has chosen to live in the closet here in Cayman and is a splendid contributor to our society both in the religious and educational field. Should she not be able to come out and say “ this is who I am”?
You terribly miss the point☝🏾
You are absolutely disgusting to tell two consenting adult Caymanians to go leave their homeland because they found love.
I may not like Eden, but I am grateful that the house voted for this motion. Yes, I am for ALL RIGHTS including religious freedom and for expressing my conscience👍🏾
That’s not what the debate was about. He wants religious freedom but on his own terms.
From CNS June 2017, “It is beyond my comprehension… how a person who is a confessed atheist can objectively deal with matters in a predominately Christian nation,” Eden said. And why not? I’m a lifelong atheist but when I was working in Israel I made it very clear I was prepared to take up arms to defend their right to survive if necessary. This isn’t about beliefs, it’s about mindless bigotry.
Hello. So, what was the motion about ???
5:42 Tokenism of the worst kind? This is plain old fashioned bigotry disguised as exercising religious freedom. Do you see anyone closing churches here? Do you see anyone locking up or killing religious leaders because of their beliefs? Do you see any constraints on worship here? No you don’t and that’s what this is all about, a particular strain of religious belief wanting to dominate the way people behave here. In the Muslim world it’s known as fundamentalism.
7:42 Blame the Holy Bible.
And expressing your sexuality?
Tell me, why should sexuality be considered a protective right? How will you enforce it when not everybody accepts it? How will you bring it into schools and not every think its good education for their children? How will you police this “homosexual right” when I can tell ya your going to have to imprison mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles, teenagers, et cetera … because they don’t see how you see?
A bunch of nonsense. Education could go a long way.