Staff assaulted in stick-up at Al La Kebab
Al La Kebab truck
(CNS): Two members of staff working on the Al La Kebab truck in Red Bay were injured late Friday night when two masked, armed men robbed the food-stop at the top of Selkirk Drive. Police said that the stick-up happened just before midnight, when the men, who were dressed in black and carrying a firearm, approached the employees. They pistol whipped one of them and assaulted the other before they made off with a quantity of cash. Uniform and firearm officers responded to the scene, where the employees were treated for minor physical injuries.
Detectives said that the robbers are believed to have left the scene in a vehicle. At least two other people, believed to be customers, were possibly on scene at the time of the robbery and the police are asking them to come forward.
This is the second time in less than five months that the truck has been robbed. In July two armed robbers, one armed with a machete and the other a handgun, who fired shots in the air during the hold-up, escaped with cash and an employee’s handbag.
Anyone with information can reach out to detectives directly at 936-0759, send the police a tip online via the RCIPS website, or call Crime Stoppers at 800-8477 to remain anonymous and be eligible for a reward.
I think a great solution to this problem is for someone to grow some balls and tip off the authorities as to who is responsible.
This bullshit “I’m not an informer” attitude allows this stupidity to perpetuate.
Have you considered what the death penalty for using a firearm illegally would do for criminals with guns?
Not much. Death penalty really doesn’t dissuade people doing stuff. It may make them regret it, after the event… but it’s no good as a deterrent.
Seriously. Thumbs down to a comment rooted in reality.
Countries that still use the death penalty, do they now have zero murders or violent crime?
The death penalty does not work as a deterrent. 5 minutes of research would illustrate this FFS.
Facts and research don’t affect the death penalty supporters. They are more “University of Life” gut feeling people, for whom the post-factual world of Trump and Brexit makes sense. Experts and research are an annoyance whether that be on the impact of death penalty, climate change or what would happen on a “no-deal” Brexit. The single highest correlated opinion on political issues among voters in the UK was the link between death penalty support and support for a Leave vote.
Because it’s a bullshit claim. How can you possibly know how much murders HASN’T been commited that otherwise would have?
Errr you can look at data from countries where the death penalty has been used and now isn’t, or vice versa.
That dumb logic means you can’t prove that seatbelts have saved lives either.
You’re basically suggesting that every person that commit murder are fully prepared to accept capital punishment. No, many murderers simply feel they can get away with it and some don’t. Those that don’t, are deterred. Those that didn’t think they would get caught and do, cry like little bitches when they are sentenced to death and serve as a good example to other potential criminals .
This claim is complete bullshit.
Death penalty removes that element of the population though.
Not really, they’re on death row in prison for many years usually, until all appeals have been used up, then they’re usually commuted to life sentences instead. So… just like prison really.
please tell me they didnt take any of the mango chutney or jerk mayo….
I know nothing is worth my life. If I was one of the A La Kebab employees, I would help them to the cash. Nobody is going to pistol-whip me or worse shoot me.
How you so sure??
He/she must know them or able to read the minds of the scumbags
Do we want to live in a society where we have guards (armed or not) at every retail establishment?
My suggestion to the Al La Kebab owners is to put security cameras at the window, they are inexpensive these days and will go a long way as a deterrent or for identification.
Unless they wear masks
Same untouchable two strikes again?
if the ownership illuminated the property much better it could be a deterrent. and there are many other security option they could do to protect their staff….how many times ahs this place been robbed?
Lets blame the victim, not the fact that we have normalized this type of crime. Social Justice Warriors will make sure the perps walk and are out on the street to repeat.
Wtf are talking about? Seriously.
Adding “seriously” makes your argument so compelling. U must have one of those Universitee Degreez. I bow down to your edumacated online PhD degree sophitikation. I hear da muney is guud if you is a gud actur wit actur freindzz dat can keep da lie alive. I am being cereal.
Let’s spell it out for you: A. 8:53 a.m. was blaming the victims (e.g., that they should illuminate the property better). B. 9:42 stated that blaming the victim is unacceptable – that social justice warriors usually blame the victim and allow criminals to run loose… Got it?
Sure, blame the owner! Comments like this not only weaken society but embolden the criminals.
How is recommending a deterrent blaming the victim? Ppl need to started dealing with reality and let go and of the ignorant romantic fantasy that Cayman is, was or will ever be crime free.
…says a coddled criminal who does not want to see things change.
Can we add iron bars to give the food van a central american feel. It will look so good because people will see we are deterring crime….while crime increases.
The original comment STILL remains true despite the ignorant high horses.
It does not address the heart of the matter. You are causing more harm when you contribute solutions that just make you feel good or look good in front of others.
Implement debit or credit cards only accepted after 7 or 8 pm. Problem solved.
Nice idea, but the solution isn’t lessning service to customers because scumbags want to rob the place. The solution is to find the scumbags and eliminate them.
8 :57 pm , are you saying that every restaurant should implement the policy of no cash after 8 : 00 pm ? People and business shouldn’t have to live in Society like that because of a few scumbags who don’t want to work for a living . Have no sympathy for those kind of people that are disrupting everyone’s life and style . Do those places that get robbed raise the price of their food after they have been robbed ? If so , then it’s the good people who are paying for the robbery .
its a short term solution til we can tackle the problem fully.
I buy my Kebabs with Bitcoin
You can’t give that shit away now hahahaha
I buy my bitcoin with kebabs.
So, how many customers do you want to exclude (who don’t even HAVE a card)?
it’s not ideal but, what else can we do in the meantime while we look for long-term solutions to the overall problem of robbery in Cayman?
Criminals changing the way society works…seems like a sublime type of terrorism.
Welcome to the history of mankind.
Just like all terrorism, government empowered.
Only one loser, Joe Public.
I know I certainly won’t be going to A La Kebab at Red Bay.
I haven’t been there in quite a while, but I will start going again. Good food. Not so far away. Solidarity.
The only solutions I can think of are as follows:
1.) allow vendors and/or security guards to carry firearms for self-defense
2.) Night-time vendors accept only cards after a certain time
3.) Businesses close after sunset (which is unlikely to happen anytime soon).
4.) a more robust CCTV like they have in the UK.
5.) Some combination of the above (perhaps 1 and 2 with emphasis on 2).
Anyone else have any short-term solutions to the problem while we formulate long-term solutions?
Fighting guns with guns would certainly not work and only lead to bloodshed as we can see in the US.
LB. certainly it would work when the good gunman gets to fire the first shot at the scumbags .
The bible says two wrongs don’t make a right but common sense says two wrongs solves the problem. Lets solve the problem. Arm the employees or the security.
but in mathematics two negatives make a positive
Ah, the old Good Guy with a Gun myth
Oh that’s no myth. It’s just because gun laws restrict where legal gun owners can bring them and 99% of the time it’s gun free areas where these crimes take place.
Fighting guns with guns will only lead to bloodshed like in the US? Last time I checked it’s criminals with illegal guns fighting cops. How many “shoot outs” are between gun owning law abiding citizens and criminals with illegal guns. You can only fight guns with guns. At this point you and others I’m sure will be fuming saying if we had more gun control we’d have less guns but how many criminals obey gun laws? Only law abiding citizens do and it’s the unarmed law abiding citizens suffering because they cannot defend themselves.
Last time you’ve checked must have been a really long time ago.
For the facts show that most, if not all of the massacres in the US where inflicted by either good law abiding citizens(sometimes with military experience)or firearms that are legal and owned by law abiding citizens, and in some cases those powerful weapons where purchased straight from the gun stores and on to the slaughtering of innocent people at places where least expected.
We all here in Cayman should forever be so grateful that the crime here hasn’t escalate to that level so far, and what crimes are committed here should be properly investigated with proper CCTV (like the UK) and in time, being that we are in a very small island those responsible will be brought to justice.
Please ignore the pleas of having no gun control, please don’t make the same mistake that America has made, just use them for example, and please help assist the police with any information regarding anything to do with illegal firearms, even if you happen to glimpse an individual with one 10 out of 10 it’s illegal.
Umm nope.. wrong..more than half of the massacres in the US were done by people who took the guns FROM law abiding citizens because they couldn’t get them themselves or were able to get guns because other government agencies failed to do their part to make sure the sale of the weapons didn’t happen. a few people with military backgrounds that showed PTSD and other mental issues but it wasn’t reported to NICS for example.
I’m not saying having no gun control. There needs to be gun control absolutely so but when it takes 15 minutes for the cops to show up you need to defend yourself. And i’m not saying arm them with rifles, use handguns.
If you want to read something REALLY horrifying.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/girls-brought-knives-to-school-in-plot-to-kill-classmates-and-drink-their-blood-bartow-middle-school-florida-2018-10-25/
I’m very glad none of your suggestions have ever been implemented.
Disgusting; I hope the employees are okay. ‘IF’ the loser thugs are apprehended, which I doubt, I hope they face stiff penalties. Too often these losers receive down graded charges if they are Caymanians. They need have serious penalties. And their parents as well. Well raised children do not do this. I bet you any money, this turds have equally crappy parents.
I don’t understand why the Business community don’t get down on the government about this issue where their business are being robbed and they could have a security guard hired , but the security guard is in fear for his own life when confronted by say two armed robbers because he can’t protect himself . So the security guard is hired but your business still got robbed and your profits continue to go to the scumbags .
When you consider how much security guards are paid for their services, I doubt any of them are going to jeopardize their life. I say allow business owners, operators and law-abiding citizens to obtain firearm licenses.
Why ?
Because most business owners and politicians dont care.
They just raise the prices to compensate for the loss.
For politicians it is a good distraction.
So there is no real reason to fix the escalating problem.
look yah. if I am a security officer with no gun on me, and I see 2 gunman approaching to rob the truck or anywhere, I would RUN go get help. I would not stand around and reason with any gunman.
Late night business should only take cards. If they get robbed thievess only get receipts.
8 :01 am , or have a gun too . But something has to be done with the scumbags . Needs more unsolved murdered thieves.
Deterrence.. If they know the food shack employees are armed they would think twice about robbing them and for those who think guns are bad. How many times has a law abiding business been robbed at GUN POINT. I’d wager my house that the guns being used are ILLEGAL to which no amount of gun law would have prevented. Only the innocent are being harmed here, law abiding ones at that. I hope they arm themselves and the next time they are robbed they serve up a hot dish for those bastards.
Then the gunmen would shoot first, your only a good deterrent if you get to pull the trigger first, in most times it’s always the robbers that gets the jump on their victims.
If the robbers knew that the staff was armed then they would most likely shoot first and make off with the cash,the staff’s guns and their souls.
So in your world the gunman always wins? Go back to your world and leave us to defend ours.
11:21 Why do you assume the people working with the vendor have fire arms training?
@8:36 Do you assume the criminals do? Apparently you don’t need gun training to rob a place.
Now there’s an idea. I saw a documentary today on Youtube about cashless societies and one of the benefits being less theft.
Less theft but more hacking crimes.
How many times is this now?
5 times I believe.. I’m amazed they are still operating. I praise them for their courage.
I hope they get hazard pay.
Awful. And it is these type of crimes that kills business. I hope they catch them.
Shit families strike again.
Shit locals propped up by shit politicians strike all the the time.
What a crazy theory, easily disproved. Read this carefully:
https://caymannewsservice.com/2017/11/inquest-finds-police-killing-of-suspect-lawful/
Why don’t they have security this late at night?
What difference would that make 9.32 pm?? Use of drop safes is only practical defense, and promote the use of cards for payment. One mobile food vendor cannot stand alone against an out of control crime wave. That’s what happens in the Caribbean when so called human rights get more backing than realistic crime fighting! In days of old “crime fighting” was the order of business, and now we hear bullshit terms like “crime management.” When criminals destroy your society and people generally suffer, whose human rights get priority, the criminals, or the defenseless people? Time for those who run our “security” to decide where they stand on this issue!!
Both are important
Absolutely agreed. Law abiding citizens who follow the law are the ones being harmed here. I bet if one of those employees had a gun it would be different. I’d bet they’d never get robbed again if those loser bastards had something more than kabobs coming at them.
Mike , are you suggesting that these politicians who are sitting down and allowing the criminals to carry illegal guns and robb innocent good people , to do more and stop it . I think that they should be doing more to be protecting innocent people of society . Not the scumbag criminals .
You’re right, Mike.
We are not even allowed the simple self-defense capsicum or pepper spray. Nonlethal, impermanent but temporarily debilitating. Each canister has a serial number on it.
The RCIPS could hold safety classes one had to take in order to qualify for the right to carry. Lost cannisters don’t get replaced. You have to turn one in to get a new one.
I had a conversation with a friend of mine, who is a police officer. I indicated that I may begin carrying a walking stick everywhere I went. A real stick made of Spanish Elm (spashelm). Even that, apparently, is a sticky wicket, because if used in my own self-defense, it then becomes an ‘offensive weapon’. It boggles my mind that a person could be convicted of excessive force when defending their own lives!!!!!!!!!
Totally screwed, we are. We should be able to carry a walking stick and use it in our natural defense. We should be able to carry pepper spray.
Criminals are cowards. Almost any deterrant works, IF the citizens are allowed to use them.
what is a security?
It depends which industry you are in.
This island’s going to the dogs. Jamaica 2.0.
Don’t worry our great leaders along with Dart, Decco & CHEC will get this resolved once the port starts!
oh yes that’s right, the port will create a million jobs and we’ll all be rich from the tourists coming in so no one will have to rob anymore.
Anonymous 8 :52 pm , I hope that Moses and Alden don’t use that line on the next pier approach .
If they do then God help us because the insanity would have become terminal.
Right on bro!
Don’t pay her any attention. She uses that “Dart DECCO & CHEC” line everywhere she thinks it might be applicable. She’s against the port, we get it. She loves to get a reaction just like this. Don’t feed the troll.
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stupid comment
Anonymous 11 : 32pm , are you talking about your own comment ? or someone else comment .
Junk , I have to agree that the Islands is gone to the dods , and who can we blame for it . The LEADERSHIP of the Islands . I hope that everyone sees what & who they are all interested in .
Are you kidding me? No,”Caymanian” gunmen,huh? Not until one your own jacks you up, then who? Honduran? Always some other nationality.
Trust me, it will never be as bad like Jamaica.
Not yet anyway
No .. never! If you haven’t lived in Jamaica, you don’t know anything. This crime here is nothing!
That only proves these crap countries with their crap cultures are parasites for 1st world. Build that wall, regulate who gets in and stop the madness of letting people in just because they dropped a baby on the right soil.
Let Jamaica solve Jamaica’s problems instead of the sublime invasion.
C’mon, these late-night food trucks are robbery bait, pure and simple. Yet the owners keep them going, so they must be making enough money despite the occasional robbery. I just feel sorry for the employees…
#KebabKind
You don’t have to worry about being robbed or killed. The police will be there in 15 minutes…… if you’re lucky.
Until the Security Officers have guns, this will not stop. How can a Security Guard protectsj
himself, the vendor’s cash, its staff and customers with only wearing a security uniform against a armed robber? It will never happen. Gun for Guns
Unfortunately not. Ssecurity guards having guns in other countries has done nothing to prevent these types of crimes.
Guns in the hands of civillian security officers is not the answer “Guns for Guns” @ 5.58 pm. All you will get is wild west style shoot outs, with the guards being shot by surprise first, and civillians as well as nervous gun men get jumpy and trigger happy. The security forces need the backing, the budget, the training, and the strategy to regain control and get the criminals off the streets once and for all. It is easy to lose control, and ten times harder work to regain control.
True but if one of the robbers is shot dead in the process, that is one less skid mark on the under pants of society to worry about.
Till RCIPS gets their heads out of their asses and actually start doing something about the criminal element and look past the “that’s so and so’s son or daughter” and bring them in to custody and those that know these losers are doing wrong start turning them in and actually opening their mouths to give evidenceand the courts stop giving these losers only a slap on the wrists then I say arm the employees
Any info on wether they were white or black ?
Accent ?
Get a flare gun from a boat shop. It will leave a burning hole in the receiving jerk. Aim for the face.
C’mon man. We all know they weren’t white. White people love kebabs.
They were phantoms…thats all the police farce chase…bare ghost and phantom…because no ones ever caught for real/actual crime(s) here.
Alden, care to update the public on your campaign promise gun crime reduction plan??
Yes, it is 60% down, remember?
Glad it’s down.. I’d hate to see it not working.
Oh thank god, I can finally leave my windows and doors open again at night.
Those days are never coming back. There is too much wealth and inequality. The society is too fractured. The proceeds of crime are much easier to hide and chances of being caught are much lower. The days you could leave everything unlocked are the same days when you had a good chance of recognising the thief or at least having the information get around and back to you. Now we just have this small group of semi-professional robbers and burglars who seem to be known only to the police yet never get put away.
It will only drop 60% with better birth control among some folks…
Leading by example?