UK Brexit chaos continues as PM plans Brussels trip
Theresa May in Parliament
(CNS): British Prime Minister Theresa May is planning to return to Brussels next week in an effort to renegotiate the Brexit withdrawal deal without the controversial ‘backstop’, which relates to avoiding a hard border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland after the UK leaves the European Union. But the goal is a tough one that many believe cannot be achieved. Meanwhile, chaos prevails in the UK, with the truce within the Conservative party already falling apart following a moment of unity in the Commons on Tuesday, when Tory Brexiteers agreed to support a motion giving May a mandate to go back to the EU replace to the backstop with “alternative arrangements”.
Some Brexiteers have already accused May of making mistakes over her choice of negotiating team, while her remainers, including some ministers, are calling on her to cross one of her red lines and stay in the Customs Union to secure a concession from Brussels over the backstop.
An increasing number of Tories are suggesting that the UK will need to ask the EU for an extension to the looming Article 50 departure date to avoid crashing out with a hard Brexit.
But European officials are concerned that, even though she is currently setting a course for a no-deal exit at the end of June, the PM will eventually have to ask for an extension but that she lacks the political courage to ask for the longer Brexit delay that she really needs.
Critics believe the prime minister’s strategy of simply trying to survive from day to day will lead to her requesting an inadequate three-month extension for fear of enraging the hard-line Brexiteers.
As the people of Britain face possible food and medicine shortages in the immediate wake of what is increasingly likely to be a hard Brexit, companies are beginning to stockpile goods. A no-deal Brexit threatens the UK’s food security and will lead to higher prices and empty shelves in the short-term, according to the British Retail Consortium.
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Brexit stirs up the sentiments that are the most loathsome and out of touch aspects of the English character.
It’s odd that anyone that criticises Brexit on here is crudely called “leftist”, an insult only used by the extreme right or those who swallow fake news, when the vast majority of Tory MPs, the UKs party of the right, strongly supported and campaigned for Remain. Seeing Brexit as a bad idea is not a left/right issue, certainly not the way some of the more basic posters on this thread would like to say it is.
“Leftist” is only a pejorative when we say it about you.
8.50 misses the point. “Leftist” is an idiotic term to refer to someone who is as likely as anything to be on the centre right political. Indeed the far left of UK politics was traditionally among the most vocal of the anti-EU critics.
You don’t really do center right. Fictional category.
Your talking with people who love Trump, reject science and have a distaste for all things that are not what they are – foreign, gay, different religion etc. Being called “leftist” by them just means “you are different and thus I condemn you”. You should take being called “leftist” a compliment.
Your made up suffering complimented by using historical suffering from minorities is a brilliant way to sell yourself as part of the people. That would have worked 30 years ago with documented cases to prove your point. All you have now are remnants of anger from a 30 years ago when non of that is happening in the present. Good luck foisting your depraved perception on the present.
I am not sufficiently mediocre, angry, racist or stupid to understand Brexiteers.
That’s pretty much all you and your ilk seem to have — insults. I understand you Remainers have strong feelings and opinions; so do we. If we can’t talk it out in a civil manner here, then where?
Do you see how this is a microcosm of the division that is happening back home? The problem won’t go away and must be dealt with in a manner which most benefits UK citizens. Polarising and insulting comments don’t help. Not one bit.
The best way to sort this out would be to put what happens next to a three way vote – Stay, Deal, Leave No Deal. As a Remainer if the second two options prevailed fair enough. The first vote was a joke, filled with lies, illegal campaigns, fake news etc. If the will of the people in a fair vote was to leave, I can live with that, but I suspect there is a reason the extremists in the Tory party do not want a People’s Vote, because they know they are in the minority.
The first vote was a people’s vote, they just voted against your people. Oh well that’s democracy.
Sure you are.
Wow, a little off-topic, but I have found a real woman. OMG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kYAv8qKN0
A LITTLE off-topic??? How about parsecs off-topic.
The average Leave voter, angry, mediocre, ignorant, low IQ, yet so convinced of English superiority is an embarrassment to the United Kingdom.
Call them “deplorable” -that strategy worked well for the obnoxious left in the US.
They are deplorable, to be fair.
Shout it to the roof-tops, we all want to know what sensitive liberals really think.
Just the usual name-calling leftie. And you think the rest of us are haters.
Stop projecting your insecurities onto us. We want independence because we can see through your globalist shit.
Keep on generalizing. You must be very smart.
By your American English, I fail to see what stake you have in this.
And that ignorant summation of the average leave voter just demonstrates the blind arrogance that some Remoaners indulge in.
And that is mainly because they are over pampered metropolitan lefties that wouldn’t know how the real world works outside of their little bubble.
The mind numbing idiocy of their argument illustrates just how out of touch their position is from the mainstream.
It’s not about racism, xenophobia or British superiority, it’s about the lies that have been forced upon the British people by successive governments.
From the original Common Market vote in the 70’s to the foisted treaties that were sneakily bought in to draw an unsuspecting and largely ignored population in a federal Europe.
Followed by uncontrolled Immigration and further lies, politicians were caught out by their own deceit and arrogance.
Sadly the whiners cant see the truth for their own dreams of European dominance with sovereign countries.
So the most undemocratic experiment in British history is coming to an end, and good riddance to it.
Of course, if those who sit from a far and snipe don’t like it, they can go live in Europe and leave us the hell alone.
“Of course, if those who sit from a far and snipe don’t like it…”
Written by someone living in Cayman it is fair to assume – priceless!
Moron, it’s called the Internet or World Wide Web for a reason. Your assumption is as dumb as the original Leave hater.
Well you could have written that comment from off island, having found an obscure Caribbean blog to argue on. Or you could be lying. Let me think….
Oh and if you want another example of stupid, think about this little gem.” … they can go live in Europe and leave us the hell alone.”
Because of course one of the things that the Brexiters have taken away if they ultimately succeed is the ability of Brits to do just that – live in Europe. Genius.
Politicians think everything gets fixed by taking a trip. What it really shows is a lack of being able to communicate effectively through more efficient means.
Democracy is awesome until the results don’t suit your agenda.
Or until you find out how old people are much more stupid and racist than you could ever have imagined.
You ignorant dotard,
Well thanks for that. Good to see you learned something from Kim Jong-Un.
At least I learnt something, shame you didn’t master English.
You should have put a full stop after “something”. Those are two sentences. Contractions show poor style when used outside direct speech. So you lost points there too. But quite where you found the basis to criticise the poster for a failure to master English is quite beyond me. Would you kindly condescend to particularity?
‘Learned’. Did nanny help you write the second contribution 2:32.
Or was is it directly from Wikipedia?
No points needed, you failed at the first attempt.
Brexit was caused by the racist, the ignorant and the gullible. May should ask the people what is will is now we have more clarity – many of the old racists have died off since 2016. There was a clear correlation between educational attainment and voting Remain.
‘what is will is now’ – yes, I can see there is a very clear correlation between education attainment and voting remain!
70% of those with no high school qualifications voted leave. 70% of those with degrees voted remain. It was the stupid vote that won it. The stupid and the racists, really.
And you remain a loser.
They taught you that rapier wit at the University of Life?
Nope, it was pushback from globalist making a buck off cheap labour and then using that to accuse the natives of being racists if they did not like their wages eroding from importing cheap labour on top of the authentic british culture being bullied.
Juene Gillet is spreading like wild-fire, but you wont hear about it since the media is just a front for most of the same who are pushing for cheap, uncontrolled immigration.
It is not spreading. It is a very localised and shrinking group. You’ve just feasted too much on fake news. You can’t even spell the grubby movement, so what do you know?
The English wanting to get away from the French and Germans (and those damn Belgians)— how is this racist? They are all the same race.
The English and Irish are same race and they have quite a bit of mutual hatred of each other.
Yes, because the UK has a population of 17.5 million racist pensioners doesn’t it you idiot.
God bless PM May.
Brexit; Proof that racism and xenophobia are expensive and destabilising forces in the 21st century.
But hey – “rule britannia”…and all that jazz eh?
Good luck.
Bizarre that you equate seeking restoration of democratic sovereignty as racist and xenophobic. Even though May is doing a poor job, at least every 5 years the U.K. population can hold her to account. The same cannot be said about the EU Commission.
For God sake can you just explain how I would recognize this loss of democratic sovereignty? How little you know about the democratic process of the EU to make such a statement. But ignorance abounds on the subject.
I don’t like unelected white European grey haired old men with their entrenched outdated ideologies running the U.K. Does that make me racist or xenophobic? Perhaps it also makes me sexist and ageist.
Many divorces are nasty. What did you expect with the UK divorcing the EU?
Democracy works best when the people are well informed. Well informed people are a super brain. The same people misinformed are literally ignorant and disconnected from reality.
Such an elitist (leftist) comment. Democracy works best when people are given equal rights and their votes come from their own free will.
The British people had such an opportunity and they voted leave.
My family was split 3-2 in favour of remain. My mother and I were in favour of leave.
There were no recriminations. Everyone accepted the democratic result and we get on with our lives.
But no, the frothing at the mouth brigade decide that democracy is only democracy on their terms.
If you want socialism, please visit Venezuela.
I definitely am on the right and am not the OP but 100% agree with the OP. The vote decided by racists, the gullible and the poorly educated who were misled by bigoted propaganda and hopelessly positive spins on life out of the EU. I feel sorry for your family having two Leavers in it, they tend to be deperately self-centred angry mediocre people utterly bereft of nuance. They dress badly too.
Really? You sound like a troll.
Sounds more like an accurate assessment of the psephological data and the attributes of certain voting groups. “Leftist” and “troll” is more the retort of those that get their news from Fox.
It was my post that you are bitching about. I can’t stand Fox nor CNN.
I do however believe in democracy and I am not a racist. I was racially abused for much of my life due to my parent’s mixed marriage, so you should really button it without facts.
Well you sure are angry, which would explain your sympathy with the Brexitards.
You can read, but your comprehension leaves a lot to be desired. When you are in year 8, please post again. All the best with the 11 plus.
Get some original material, jerk. The playground stuff does scream “loser”. When you reach my level of education do get back to me. Here is a tip, you never will be getting back to me.
As long as we’re making sweeping generalisations, I’ve noticed that remainers tend to be loud, judgemental, and favor insults and name-calling over debate and discussion.
Surely not a sign of the introspective intelligence for which you pretend.
Yes 10:00 am, and I am certain you have no problems getting on with your lives with a substantial cut in you and your families economic standard of living.
You will see socialism in Britain like never before if Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn becomes Prime Minister. Be careful what you wish for 10:00 am.
Reading the Daily Mail again!
10:00 am, You might just get socialism in Britain as Jeremy Corbyn is a great admirer of Hugo Chavez and the Venezuelan revolution. The frothing at the mouth Leave Brigade might get what they deserve. Wonder what views Boris Johnson will have then?
Modern democracies are no longer untouched from the meddling of sinister foreign actors. China and Russia (amongst others) have been agitating and stoking ethnocentrism via subtle popular media and faked clickbait editorials; falsely linking your problems to “migrants”, and disrupting the collective morality of millions. They have been caught paying PR firms to post this crap, as part of their efforts to vacate Western government influence and justice-based process from troubled zones around the world. They were successful and have subsequently projected themselves into those vacuums to look like the good guys. That you haven’t even recognized the product of your own folly, even in hindsight, is sad for the UK, its territories, and for justice and humanity around the planet.
I beg to differ. Why is everyone so afraid of a second referendum. The problem of 52 versus 48% is that it has torn the country apart. Let the people vote on the actual mechanics of what leave means or indeed stay. But be in no doubt many of the people who voted to leave were NOT socialists.
If a 4% split tore the country apart, what % do want deciding the next referendum/election so there is no tearing asunder?
(This is a serious/philosophical question given the 50/50 split in so many democracies today, including Cayman.)
What if the next vote is 52%-48% in either direction? Or do we need to move away from ‘50%+1’ to decide things to a larger majority in order to foster more generalist policies? (Imagine a US election where it took 75%, rather than 52%, to win the presidency.)
You seem to believe that if everyone is equally well educated and informed, they will politely agree with one another or find an agreeable compromise. This is not true in the real world as we can see every day. Your argument is the left’s current argument that those who oppose them are small town yokels.
the OP didn’t say which way a well informed voting populace woud vote, but your own bias saw it as leftist.
So your arguement is only a misinformed population would vote for the right, lol.
Are you calling Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson, Rees Mog, David Davies and the rest of the public school elite “small town yokels”? I am more afraid of these right wingers than Jeremy Corbyn even if I wouldn’t vote for him. At least Corbyn has morals, a sense of justice and a belief that working people have a right to a living wage. Oh the horror!
You seem to have missed the point. Intentional?
I am afraid of the small town yokels particularly Jacob Rees Mogg, however, Jeremy Corbyn is horrifying too. He actually talks about nationalizing the means of production. Sorry 3:58 but that is known as communism. Think I would go with the more moderate and economically reasonable Liberal Democrats.
So would I normally but whilst in coalition they lost any credibility with the policies they supported. Particularly on the issue of tuition fees. Shame!
I hope you’re not in Cayman spouting that crap. Cayman, the country where the lack of an enforced minimum wage, employment rights and the appalling housing of low paid workers is right there alongside homophobia, bigotry and of course, hypocrisy.
But it’s okay for you in your pampered Cayman cocoon, you can afford to be a champagne socialist whilst dictating to others how they should think.
But isn’t that the preserve of the anti-Semitic Islington elite who support Chavez, the PLO, IRA and every other bottom feeder the world can produce? They wouldn’t know morals or social justice if it hit them with a T70 tank, and clearly you don’t either.
That makes a very big assumption that people actually want to vote based on the bigger economic picture. People mainly vote based on the issues that are most relevant to them – employment, stagnant wages etc or perhaps disagreeing with local planning proposals that adversely affect them. And why shouldn’t they?
She should not get her way! Colonialist!
May is the most unprincipled Prime Minister we have ever had. We beret tiny countries like Cayman when they get it wrong. But now just look at the mess that is in the UK with their supposed advanced democratic system. Democracy there depends on who owns and manipulates the media in all its forms.
Ironic that you describe May and by implication, the U.K., as colonialist when the U.K. has worked on devolving power to its constituent nations and major cities. In contrast, the EU is focused on centralising power to the EU Commission and removing power from its member states.
How can the UK have constituent nations when it is a nation itself? England has no parliament or first minister so in no way is it a nation. Each state in USA is more of its own nation than England
You ignorant fool. Read history, not toilet walls.