LGBT rights are human rights

| 07/06/2016 | 65 Comments

featured comment 300x225A CNS reader writes: The foreigner who makes the noise is acting like a voice for the LGBT Caymanian community who are intimidated by the bigotry shown here and have no (or little) voice themselves. There is a thriving LGBT community on Cayman which consists of both expats and plenty of Caymanians, who just get on with their lives, however restricted they are, but are always fearful of recriminations.

Those Caymanians may become empowered by the actions of the foreigner, and finally find a loud enough voice of their own. Already they can see that many younger Caymanian members of society are more enlightened and support diversity and rights for LGBT.

Driving minorities underground only builds resentment and causes misery. In the past, all over the world, gay men and women married members of the opposite sex in order to hide their true sexuality; they lived a lie, and often still had to find an outlet for their natural feelings. This, most often, led to misery on all sides; humiliation for husbands and wives who found that their partners were not what they thought, and for children of such unions who found they had parents who were not what they seemed. Broken and unhappy marriages all for the sake of “society”. Children grew up, hopefully loved, but in an atmosphere of confusion, anger and resentment.

Why shouldn’t gay couples be able to buy property together in the same way as heterosexual couples (particularly married couples). They should be able to choose, the same as anyone else, whether to commit to marriage or not and all the legal niceties that flow from that choice rather than having to make complicated arrangements to ensure their lives together are secure.

What difference does it make if a gay person has their spouse listed as a dependant the same as a heterosexual married couple? There is no difference whatsoever to the Cayman Islands burden if a gay couple arrive on the island and one works and the other doesn’t. The immigration law still would require that the employed person has means to support the dependant. In some ways it might even be better population-wise, because, barring adoption, it may be that the overall result is less burden on the system, with fewer dependants.

There are many other rights that are denied to gay persons on this island, be they single or in a committed relationship, small seemingly unimportant issues that you take for granted every day but are hurdles to them.

Have some humanity and recognise this is not foreigners trying to impose, this is a human being asking to be allowed to live his life the way that he is made and by doing so he speaks for the whole LGBT community and their supporters. Commend his courage.

And no, I do not extrapolate that to giving rights to, for example, paedophiles (and I stress this is not me linking homosexuality to paedophilia one iota). Paedophilia is the imposition of a person’s demands on a child. There is nothing consensual and nobody could ever justify such coercion. A child can NEVER consent to a paedophile’s demands. No one could ever win an argument that a person with such tendencies should be allowed to live their life that way because of human rights. For one thing, the rights of the child would obviously outweigh any supposed rights of the other.

The rights discussed here are definitely the rights to be applied to adults in consensual relationships, that is the difference.

This was written in response to this comment under the article MLAs call for gay rights referendum:

What gets me really upset is that the persons pushing this matter is not even Caymanian. Want to see fun let me as a Caymanian go to USA and start to protest over any matter and see how long I last there. This is Cayman and if you come here live by our rules, simply done next.

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  1. Love More...it always wins. says:

    i must say, that even i just finished the swim through mucky, ignorant comments, i’m glad to participate in a semi-grown up, serious conversation regarding LGBT issues, thoughts, concerns, etc in Cayman. by the way, if you’re a man and are bigoted towards gays/trans folks but you take no issues with two women, check your Self. you might just be insecure. lol

  2. Anonymous says:

    Hey look at me, i’m gonna make a 2000 year old book govern a country. Continue to live that way and we’ll end up like the middle east

  3. Joe B says:

    Personally I do not give the right to choose my preferences of any kind to any other man or woman. As I uphold the rights of all other humans I expect the same of them. I also am not surprised that a few of my fellow humans do not agree with me. Its just their opinion and nothing else.

  4. Anonymous says:

    I am all for recognition of LBGT rights. What I am against is what happens in a few countries now where LBGT have more rights than the hetero community..,and outrageous behaviour becomes acceptable which the hetero community would not get away with…try Gran Canaria for an evening and you will see what I mean

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes that is not the Cayman way. Cayman may have rife paedophilia, incest and abuse of trust but at least they have the decency to do it behind closed doors.

      • Love More...it always wins. says:

        decency?? the “decency” would be in NOT committing ANY of the vile act/crimes that you just listed and sound like you’re ok with. sooo, you think paedophilia and incest and other abouse is ok so long as the door is closed??? PS………..NEWSFLASH for those stuck inna de book weh dem did give us offa de slaveship, the LGBT community does not do ANYthing, that the heterosexual community doesn’t do. gays are not child molesters, child molesters are child molesters. gays aren’t sinners. sinners are sinners.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Sorry, I am lost. This article seems to imply that homosexuality is unlawful in Cayman. Is it? Or is it that same gender marriage is not recognized under the laws of the Cayman Islands? Those two are connected but very different issues.

    If the latter, how does this differ from heterosexual couples who are choosing NOT to get married but who have been in a long term committed partnership not be able to be included on each others work permit? Is that also considered to be a Human Rights violation?

    • Anonymous says:

      The difference is recognising marriages that have taken place abroad and so the couple recognised as a married couple elsewhere.

  6. Anonymous says:

    I am hetrosexual and that is my right. What is not my right or anyone else right, is to stand in the way of anyone who is different from us because of their sexual preferences.

    Legally LGBT have the right to be with whom ever they choose once they are of legal age and both consent, like it or not.

    Legally backed civil partnership is another path LGBT should seek Govt. bring about, since so many here in Cayman seem to be against marriage between two person of the same sex.

    Who are we to stand in the way of people’s rights just because of our personal beliefs?
    CIG Govt. owe it to the people of this country, to protect the rights of those discriminated against in the work place or society. Like it or not there are many LGBT Caymanians.

    These locals should have the right to be who they are in their country, Most have no where to run and should not have to even if they have options. They should not have to be unhappy having to hide behind marriages with the opposite sex and pretend. Or move to another country all due to fear of being who they truly long to and should have the right to be, in their own country.

    Many others are living with their partners and would like the opportunity to be out and open to family friends and colleagues, without fear of repercussions.

    We as a country need to step up and take all types of discrimination seriously. Christians belief should not lead to hypocrisy. No one should discriminate anyone, irrespective of individual personal views on the subject.

    Someone once said “Claiming that someone else marriage is against your religious or belief, is like being angry at someone for eating a doughnut because you are on a diet”. This is so spot on. We as a people need to get on with our lives and let others get on with theirs.

    People’s sexuality is their business once it’s between two consenting adults. Even when it is differs from yours or mines. Judge a person on who they are inside, not because of their race, skin color, income, level of education or gender preference.

    If a person is kind, considerate, honest and hardworking, this is what and all that should matter. We should not care what their sexuality is, BECAUSE IT IS NOT OUR BUSINESS, ONCE THEY ARE DECENT HUMAN BEINGS.

    Don’t assume everyone is straight or gay. Gender expression has nothing to do with sexual orientation. Stop judging and hating, Being LGBT does not prevent an individual from positively contributing to society.

  7. Anonymous says:

    The obvious thing from these threads is that you can’t rationally argue with brain washed hicks.

    • Love More...it always wins. says:

      i hear you……….but HOPEFULLY, some will choose to actually THINK about what they’re saying no to. LGBT people are just like heteros, except LGBT folx are often targeted and murdered for being the way this perfecK creator created them. #gullyqueens #transpeoplemurderedeveryday just to Love who and how they Love. #befair

  8. Anonymous says:

    My understanding is that in Dubai for example, it is not legally permitted for a couple to live together unless they are married. I am sure plenty couples do it anyway and don’t draw attention to themselves that they do so, as expats otherwise risk deportation. So I assume people make a choice whether they can live in a country with such laws or whether it is morally and ethically not possible for them to do so. If not, there are plenty other places in the world where this matter is not an issue.

    Whilst I do not have any issue with anyone’s sexual orientation as long as it includes two consenting adults, please do not confuse this with a human rights issue. If living in Cayman with a homosexual orientation proves such hardship, there are plenty other places in the world which are more open minded and have the appropriate laws in place. Just as one would not expect the Government of the UAE to reverse it’s stance on “living in sin” I don’t believe it is right to ask the Cayman Government to revise their stance on this topic. However, it seems that on our side of the world, we (and by that I mean all countries on this side of the world) are expected to accommodate everyone’s believes, religions, sexual orientations etc etc, however, nobody would ever expect this to be the case in other parts of the world. How come?

    • Anonymous says:

      because the western countries do not believe stoning to death a 14 year rape victim for adultery is right.
      Why do support you support governments that practise this?

      As for leaving, why should a gay Caymanian be forced out of their own country? you think it is great for gay Caymanians to never feel safe, to feel like second rate citizens in their own country.

      • Anonymous says:

        When or where has this happened in the Cayman Islands? I no gays and they are out going people, never heard them say they feared moving around or going out. Stop the false info.

      • Anonymous says:

        Who is forcing a gay Caymanian out of the country? This is why it is hard to keep a sensible monologue going cause it changes quickly into some sort of hysteria….

        • Love More...it always wins. says:

          if Cayman turned away a cruise carrying 900 LGBT folx that wanted to come drop their abundance of foreign LGBT dollars just for being LGBT then what kind of lie do you think an LGBT Caymanian has to live? that’s no sort of existence for god’s chil’runs.

    • Anonymous says:

      why should the minority accommodate your beliefs? Should the minority not be respected? like mentioned in the article it’s the perjury of the majority that is forcing the minority to conform. Remove the perjury and just live in peace! Dubai included.

    • Anonymous says:

      So your suggestion is that if people don’t like the human rights abuses that take place in Cayman the can leave. Nice one. You are right. How dare any outsiders interfere with the God given rights of Caymanians and their cultural heritage of bigotry and religious zealotry?

      Calling bigotry “cultural” does not excuse you from taking responsibility for infringing on the rights of others. It’s not YOUR country’s right to create inequality just because you’ve always done it. Nor does the fact that inequality exists in Dubai also make it okay somehow. Didn’t your mother ever give you the jumping off the bridge speech when you were a kid? Just because everyone else is doing it.. blah blah blah
      -Isme

      • Anonymous says:

        Sorry, in my opinion you are missing the point. I am not aware that homosexuality is unlawful in the Cayman Islands and hat people are denied entry to this country based on sexual orientation. I am therefore not considering the facts that homosexual marriage is not recognized by Cayman Law a Human Rights issue so perhaps we have to agree to disagree.

        My point I am trying to make is where does it stop and where will the line be drawn? Will it be a Human Rights issue if a mother cannot keep her children on Island on a work permit if she doesn’t earn enough to maintain them here? Is it morally and ethically correct to separate mother and child? Is it going to be a Human Rights issue when working hours interfere with one’s religious worship?

        It’s a slippery slope, that’s all I am saying…..

  9. Anonymous says:

    I identify to being a woman. I don’t mind if other women like wearing wigs, operating a sno-cone machine, or what sex they’d like to date – that isn’t my call to tell them what to do or how to live their lives. What does concern me is to have that sno-cone operator begin pushing that cart into my bathroom – not only does that not agree with me now, it will never agree with me. This is how I feel about men, identifying as women, coming into my bathroom.

    To put things in perspective, It’s up to the lawyers to petition the Government to declare a new sex. If you’re a man then you are a man in everything that that implies. Same as a woman. Seriously, instead of muddying the waters with personal likes and dislikes that individuals self-identified with, clearly if a person’s sex becomes the challenge – give them a sex, just so they can have their Rights as to their own. They themselves tell us they feel “different”!

    IMHO – Until they have a bonified and legal SEX that treats them as equals, APART from “male” or “female”, they will always have a problem gaining RIGHTS! We are not robots, and we need IDENTITY to remain sacred!!

    • Yellow Snow(cone) Eater says:

      What the heck you going on about? Nobody here is talking about bathroom rights or transgendered people. Why are people selling sno-cones in bathrooms?!? That’s the last place I want to eat a pineapple flavored, yellow colored sno-cone.

    • Zak loved shoes! says:

      Have you informed DEH of this bathroom selling sno-cone transgender operator? Does he/she have a valid T&B? Are their pension and health benefits up to date? Any franchises available for unemployed Caymanians? And lastly what flavors do they sell?
      Thanks

    • Love More...it always wins. says:

      Gender expression has nothing to do with sexual orientation…like anonymous said.

  10. Anonymous says:

    I want my rights to eat turtle, and go on the beach where ever i please. I didn’t choose to be born here. Just because you don’t understand my turtle eating should I have to stop? That’s discrimination if you ask me.

  11. Anonymous says:

    The reason why gay marriage and connecting issues face such an uphill battle the world over is because it is attempting to penetrate the religion and or faith systems of people.
    Many of those opposed to the concept are not necessarily opposed to gay marriage but instead take great offence to what they perceive to be the greatest of assaults against their faith.
    (Hence the typical loggerhead stalemate when one attempts to counter this objection with a legal / human rights argument. We cannot debate faith with man-made jurisprudence.)

    Whether one believes in a God is neither here or there, however it is a fact that most people in the world do – especially beyond the western world – which is interesting as the West has spent the most money, time, human blood and energy trying to convert everyone else to their chosen religion, but I digress.

    Hence my steadfast assertion that civil partnerships may be the most useful avenue to secure the legal rights currently unavailable for homosexual and LGBT persons. In fact, I would encourage accompanying civil partnership agreements to straight couples or any other category the infinite possibilities of human relationships – primarily because they can manoeuvre around the infinite number of complications that have developed along with hundreds of years of faith-based legal systems.

    It is undeniable that faith is paramount for many cultures and people therefore to constantly chip away at the pinnacle of any given society on the behalf of what is apparently a minority of the population is a recipe for disaster. We even see denominations on the brink of global fracture on the issue of gay marriage – as if we need yet another turning point in religious dogma.

    Personally, I see the issue being resolved in a relatively simple way which is the implementation of legally backed civil partnerships.

    *Sidenote: CP’s carry a great risk of legal discrimination against those that opt for the traditional (religiously influenced) customs of marriage, inheritance, estate, executor or rights etc. Hence the suggestion for all persons to examine the prospect of civil partnerships regardless of sexual orientation or gender identification.

    Lastly, many of us are quick to ridicule the faith and convictions upon which those that oppose gay marriage base their perspective. Frankly you are as much an ignorant bigot as the one you accuse of the same. Let us strive to find a healthy and harmonious solution to this local issue in a manner that respects the local sensitivities. Anything other than will result in guaranteed friction in the future – and who wants that?

    – Whodatis

  12. Anonymous says:

    Sorry it’s not. Having rights based on being a human has nothing to do with having rights awarded based on someone’s sexual orientation. Rights are not afforded based on your sexuality, the color of your hair, race or any other characteristics of being a human. No one should have special rights for having or not having blond hair, or speaking a certain language or the way the dress, or who they choose to shag. What a crock!

    • Anonymous says:

      And by your own argument the reverse is also true. No one should have rights taken away based on their skin, gender, sexuality etc etc.

      Equality isn’t about “awarding” people rights. It’s about making sure everyone is treated the same under the law. How in the world is wanting to be able to marry the person of your choice a “special right”?

    • Anonymous says:

      You have just made a great case for gay rights, since you advocate that “rights are not afforded based on your sexuality” but the rights flowing from marriage are only afforded to heterosexual couples.

    • Anonymous says:

      Nice try with the word games. FYI: Marriage is not a RIGHT, just like driving on public roads is not a RIGHT. This requires the interaction and participation of others ; and perhaps against their will or faith. As such you don’t have a RIGHT to decide what others have to do for you, or have to accept from you. A RIGHT, is right to live, right to speak, right to protect yourself. You don’t have a right to tell others what the hell they will have to accept.

      In the case of “marriage” in the traditional sense, it derives from holy matrimony bound in a church between a man and a woman. If you want civil unions recognized by a state, then fine, but don’t ask for a church to recognize it and don’t ask schools to recognize it. As long as the states provide you with the same benefits of traditional marriage, then you should leave the rest of us the alone and stop forcing it down our throats!

      You can’t FORCE a catholic church to marry same same couples nor to recognize it as legitimate in the eyes of the churches. Weather you like it or not, churches also have rights to accept what they recognize to be marriage.

      You can’t FORCE the state to allow you to drive. You can’t FORCE a school to teach Catholicism, paganism, or every sexual orientations under the sun because you are FORCING others to accept what they ultimately have to right to accept or deny.

      Someone can claim to be a man or woman depending on the way they feel that day, and which bathroom they feel like using, but don’t tell me I have to accept it and comply with whatever they decide that day.

      Thanks.

      I’ll keep my church out of your face, and you keep your LGBT issues out of mine.

      • Al Catraz says:

        “it derives from holy matrimony bound in a church between a man and a woman”

        Are atheists allowed to get married?

    • Al Catraz says:

      “No one should have special rights…”

      What “special rights” are they asking for?

      When we allowed people of African ancestry to have the same rights as anyone else, and to be protected against denial of their rights, we did not give them “special rights”. We have permitted persons of African ancestry to be treated as everyone else.

      When we allowed women to vote, we did not give them a “special vote”. We permitted them to have the same vote as everyone else.

      Had we not gotten into the business of giving special rights to Africans, women, and what-have-you, we opened the Pandora’s box of having to treat all sorts of people the same. Even people we don’t like very much, or people of whom our God disapproves.

      The Christian God does not approve of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, or any other faith. Why on earth do we award these people a “right” to pursue religious beliefs which are contrary to the Word of God?

  13. Anonymous says:

    We cannot overlook that many otherwise goodhearted Caymanians have an imaginary friend in the sky who insists that they be mean and intolerant to others who are different. The way to improve this situation is to dilute their allegiance to a popular fantasy. It’s a difficult challenge but no other way will work. Look around the world. Review the data. It’s clear that as religiosity declines moral behavior and respect for others rises.

    • Cheese Face says:

      Amen Brother!

    • Love More...it always wins. says:

      it is a stated, unequivocal, absolute, unambiguous, unmistakable, indisputable, incontrovertible, indubitable, undeniable; clear, clear-cut, plain, plain-spoken, explicit, specific, categorical, straightforward, blunt, candid, emphatic, fact-checked, FACT that enslavers of our AFRICAN DIASPORA, forcibly, violently, matter-of-factly, put the “good book” in the hands of our kidnapped, displaced, enslaved, beaten down, abused, Great-Great-Great-Great-Great Grandparents and lied to them, stabbed them, shot them, raped them, whipped them, cajoled them, and beat them into selling their descendants that saaaame old story.

      at some point, we need to snap out of chattel slavery’s grip on our Spirits, our minds, our actions, our outlooks, our outcomes, our outputs, Black & White & all, alike! #imaginaryfriendforadults

      unna wan talk what the bible bans? i don’t think you really want to. cutting your hair. wearing jewelry. working on the sabbath. JUDGING… o__0

      http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_actions_prohibited_by_the_Bible

      just spread LOVE and be FAIR.

  14. Anonymous says:

    I just think that we all should remember that we are not the ones to judge. Let them live their life but don’t push your lifestyle on people…

    • Anonymous says:

      Exactly if the majority and yes the majority does not agree that we should change our laws to suit the gays. We do not want our community overtly over-.run by gays .this is not about judging anyone. God will do the judging and when it happens you will remember all the ire you have caused us. Anyone who chooses to deny the existence of God can go on in that belief but one day we will realise it. I only hope it won’t be too late.

      • Anonymous says:

        If by God you’re referring to the Flying Spaghetti Monster 5:40 then we need not worry because his noodliness will forgive and let live the gay lifestyle. Our God is an amazing God and his noodliness will touch your soul if you just let him in. Ramen.

        • Anonymous says:

          Hey, laugh away, it’s a real religion. They wear pasta strainers on their heads instead of yarmulkes or turbans. It’s all about belief, you must take it on faith, like any other religion, don’t question, just believe.

      • Love More...it always wins. says:

        said the enslavers of Africans.

    • Anonymous says:

      Does this mean it’s wrong to bring kids to church as they’re not able to think for themsevles yet. “Pushing’ the lifestyle on to people has been a part of culture here in Cayman. Taking children to church, who are too young to think for themselves and choose a religion primarly based off their own research are forced by their parents who themsevles we’re indoctrinated into Christianity at a young age. That is the true crime. Forcing your beliefs into on to children who can’t even think for themsevles. Look up “Anabaptist”, they believed in letting the candidate confess his belief in God rather than being baptised as an infant. You know what the real “christians” did to them? Burned them at a stake for thinking you should have any type of free thinking or free will.

      • Anonymous says:

        Now you have gone a bit too far. parents have a right to take their children to church if they chose. You or no one else has any business with that. If you don’t want to take your young children then no one is forcing you. The irony here however, if you are gay, the chance of you doing that is very slim.

        • Anonymous says:

          No, i’m not gay. I’m a straight Caymanian who doesn’t believe in fairy tales that discriminates against just about everything that doesn’t genuinely believe in it’s bs.

        • Love More...it always wins. says:

          now, you have gone a bit too far. LGBT folx have a right to identify as such if they choose. you or no one else has any business with that. if you don’t want to identify as LGBT, then no one is forcing you.

          the irony here, however, is that we all just want the same thing, to be able to just be…

          PS…lots and lots of LGBT exist in EVERY denomination, fyi

      • Love More...it always wins. says:

        awesome point, 5:48

    • Anonymous says:

      Please explain how gay people are pushing their lifestyle on you? Hint: no one will force you to marry a person of the same sex, have intercourse with a person of the same sex or for your children to date a person of the same sex (unless they are so inclined). If you’re not gay then guess what, your lifestyle won’t change AT ALL if someone loves and marries a consenting adult of the same gender.

  15. Someone says:

    There are only two types of people in the world and we are one or the other. You have wheat and then you have tares.
    Deep down in our own hearts, we know which one we are.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Gays often argue that it is not their choice to be gay so we must accept their life style. The same argument can be offered for paedophiles, but we treat it as a disease because innocent children are harmed. The very word ‘Gay’ has been hijacked to now mean homosexual, I don’t understand what is wrong with the word ‘homosexual’. Now we see a trend where the word bigot is applied to anyone who has a viewpoint opposing homosexual life. It all seems a bit one sided to me, all with the purpose of forcing homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle. Personaly I don’t care but I think people who oppose homosexuality have a human right to express it.

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s not a choice and it harms no one. It’s certainly your right to express yourself but your views are bigoted and wrong. Comparing gay people to child molesters does not bolster your argument. It just reveals your own prejudices.

      • Anonymous says:

        The reason why they have hijacked the word ” gay” is because they themselves can’t accept the word ” homosexual” . The word gay means ” happy” the way they complain and fight for the entire island to fall in line behind them ” ( no pun intended) is far from happy. I do not know whether they are born like that or not and they can live however they want to but DO NOT Come and live among us and try to change or laws to accommodate you.

        • Anonymous says:

          Well said. But these individuals (and we should take care to identify accurately here) who want to ram their beliefs down our throats and trample on our heads are at heart an intolerant people, so we shouldn’t be surprised at their outrageous behaviour, which surely would never be tolerated in any other country in the world. They have less than zero respect for our people and way of life, hurl insults at us as opening sentences, and don’t think it at all untoward to act in such a rude manner. They consider themselves entirely superior to us, you see. Study their language.They are modern day imperialists, masters of masquerade, and like their colonial ancestral masters of old act accordingly. It’s the nature of the beast, so to speak. And Caymanians speaking up is the last thing they will tolerate, which is where the laws against “homophobia” (ala “Bonkers Britain”) would come in. (Quote the Bible and get a visit by the police!)

        • Love More...it always wins. says:

          um, they’re here and there’s not much you can do except be fair.

    • Anonymous says:

      You are correct, people who oppose homosexuality have the human rights to express it. However it is also true that homosexuals have the right to express their views as well.

      Homosexuals also should have the right to have at least, same sex unions so the person they choose as a partner can remain in their country, just like any hetrosexual spouse can when they choose someone to marry who is not from the Cayman Islands.

      We all have our own beliefs which we are entitled to. What we do not have is the right to deny others their rights because of our own beliefs.

      Homosexuality is legal in Cayman once it is between two consenting adults. Hetrosexual’s are legal to have sex between two consenting adults as well. Anything else from both is breaking the law.

      I am a hetrosexual and their are those of us who behave outrageously, just as some homosexuals do. This is expected as there are all types of personalities in this world no matter their sexuality like it or not. The law just have to be enforced no matter who is breaking them.

      Some LGBT are born that way and the man above “God” created them, just like he did you and I. Let him be the judge of them. If He is who we really say and believe He is, then He God will love them just the same as those of us who are not LGBT.

      Paedophiles are completely different, they are mentally ill individuals. Anyone who feels attracted to children sexually is ill. This is completely different from a hetrosexual or homosexual who is normal and who simply wish to be with a consenting adult of the opposite or same sex.

      Just because you are hetrosexual doesn’t mean I or majority of others molest little boys/girls or for that matter feel attracted to every male/female we know and sexually harass them. I am certain it is the same for homosexuals.

      People of all sexual orientation flirt harass and push themselves on individuals and this is because they are playas period, no matter if they are hetrosexual or homosexual.

      Both molest children which we have unfortunately seen here in Cayman on a number of occasions. Primarily hetrosexual male molesting an underage female or a homosexual male molesting an underage male. We have also seen rapes of adults all of which is sick and wrong.

      The people that do these sick acts against children are paedophiles and are obviously ill. This is separate and aside and have nothing to do with them being hetrosexual or homosexual. Those types of acts against children should not be tolerated and is what we all should stand against lead by CIG Govt.

      WE as people or a country DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DENY OTHERS THEIR RIGHTS, JUST BECAUSE OF OUR OWN BELIEFS excepts in the case of Paedophiles. The law does not allow and SHOULD NOT EVER GIVE THE RIGHT FOR ANYONE, be they homosexual or hetrosexual to molest a child or have sex with a non consenting adult.

      And please, do not tell me if homosexuals are able to have the right to be with consenting adults that pedophiles should have the right to molest children. It is totally different. One would have to be sick in the head to believe that equates to the same.

      BTW I am hetrosexual and I am Caymanian.

    • Love More...it always wins. says:

      ATTENTION SHOPPERS: there’s a sale in aisle 2 ~~~> a moratorium on comparing LGBT folx to paedophiles.

      what is sooooo difficult to understanddddDUH, that gays, trans, gender-nonconforming, etc does not mean they rape children. dang……..!!! unna is THAT ignorant to think so?!? jeeeezum. NO< the same can NOT be said for paedophiles. that is a CRIME of ill intent. GAY is gay………and yes, if you exhibit bigoted behaviour and thoughts, well, then wear that bigot hat, Friend. it's not a "trend". why would anyone oppose LOVE. are LGBT the ones getting pregnant and throwing babies in dumpster an' ting? you can't say allll what you said and then end it with, "personally i don't care" and how you think "BIGOTS" have a human right to express their bigotry.

      most LGBT children realize they're "different" early.

  17. Anonymous says:

    @11:35 am – “…it’s now a multi-million dollar business differentiating between genuine cases and people simply trying to cash in on it…”

    How exactly are the LGBT community “cashing in” on fighting for equal rights? Apologies in advance if I misunderstood your comment.

  18. Anonymous says:

    There’s not much you can argue about here because these rights are enshrined in law throughout most of the modern world. The thing that confuses the LGBT human rights issue for many of us is the impression that because it’s now a multi-million dollar business differentiating between genuine cases and people simply trying to cash in on it is getting increasing difficult. I’m obviously not in a position to say whether or not this applies locally but in other areas of the world it’s quite clear that playing the ‘race’ card has rapidly been overtaken by playing the ‘LGBT’ card.

    • Anonymous says:

      The ignorance of this comment is too much for me to bear. Firstly, LGBT rights is not a multi-billion dollar business. Cases brought against individuals who discriminate are for the sole purpose of highlighting bigotry and forcing change since money seems to be the only thing that talks. I’m sure Cayman would pick up its feet and take action if someone stood up and sued.

      Secondly, whenever someone says “race-card” or some other type of card, its often to hide their own insecurities and bigotry on the topic. LGBT individuals seeking the same rights that heterosexual individuals have is not playing a card. I hope you learn quickly that fighting for what you believe in is important part of changing discriminatory ideologies and learned behavior – especially here in Cayman.

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