Equestrian Center fights government over road
(CNS): The Equestrian Center, located off the Linford Pierson Highway, has started a petition to stop the government from taking some of its land for the widening of the road into George Town. Still reeling from sexual attacks on three of their ponies, one of which had to be put down, the private riding school is fighting the land acquisition because it says the stables will not be able to function if government takes the land.
The owners want government to divert the road through vacant land adjacent to the facility instead.
The online petition had collected over 670 signatures by Thursday evening and the owners were hoping to reach 1,000 before delivering it to the premier.
The stables have been operating at the location for 25 years — long before the first two lanes of the highway were constructed. The owners say that plans to expand the road to four lanes will take it across the Equestrian Center’s property making it unsafe to keep the riding stables open.
“Residents will be forced out, jobs will be lost and the animals will be left homeless,” the owners stated in the petition. “For years the EC has welcomed visitors through its gates — whether to pet the animals, play in the pony park or watch Cayman athletes represent their country in an equestrian event. The EC has without a doubt done the island a great service by bringing together the community and putting the Cayman Islands on the international stage for equestrian sports.”
During a PPM George Town party meeting on Wednesday night, Kurt Tibbetts, who is the minister responsible for roads and a George Town MLA, mentioned challenges government had encountered with landowners regarding the Lindford Pierson Highway expansion. Without naming names, he said that some people did not “want to give up anything while expecting others to give up everything”.
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I believe the petitioners are not against the widening of the road. Instead they are asking the NRA to consider using the vacant land across the road from the stables instead. It does seem odd that the original plans for widening this road that were produced many years ago used the vacant land on the south side of the road and none from the stables. Over time the design has shifted to the North to the point where the NRA is abandoning a part of the current road to move it all further North. Makes you wonder why….as for the curve, there still is one. If the curve concerned the NRA, you would think that they would want to move the new traffic circle much further South than currently envisioned. Hmmmmm…….
Cayman style.
First build road.
then remember to buy the land.
How does pony’s “benefit the community” weigh against people rights to better infrastructure to George Town from 3 districts? Would not road rage increase? What about Children left alone waiting for their parents who are going to have a sour attitude? Meals will be late , or families will go ahead and eat without parent etc,etc. The gov’t has the right to buy the land at the going value and build the road for the good of the people, end of story get it done.
What they mean is “the benefit of the hobby of rich people and the children of the rich is more important than the daily suffering of poorer people”.
If there’s a viable, alternative solution to siting the road then why doesn’t Government explore that and leave the business alone? As for the ‘death curve’ and other garbage being spouted, are you seriously suggesting a gentle curve taken at 40 mph is too much to handle, and that you can only drive in straight lines? Driving in Cayman is very boring and unchallenging, the real risk is losing concentration on the basic tasks of getting from a to b..and not hitting c along the way.
Those curves on that bypass only become dangerous when you are racing.
or are drunk – or both
The real question that needs to be asked here is why roads are being named after living persons who were simply attempting to do their jobs.
Because as proved by recent headlines … ‘ cop catches shoplifter ‘ ‘ customs officer is hero as man detained for small amount of ganga ‘ etc etc… Just actually doing your job to even the smallest level of competency seems to be reason for making the news amid roars of congratulations from other barely adequate members of the workforce
MOVE the stable for the greater good of the Cayman Islands!
I would encourage the Government to put as much thought, plans and funds into a well run public transportation system as they do with the ever increasing road expansions, additions, widening projects.
Every road that is built (and has been built over the last 10 years), should have included proper bus stops on the side of the road to accommodate full size buses to pull over and pick up passengers.
We desperately need to move away from this rogue mini van bus system, with no reliable or published schedule, random fare cost and worst of all, pulling out and in of traffic as they please, potentially stopping every 100 yards cause god forbid people would be expected to stand at a designated bus stop, waiting for the bus to come……..
They are putting as much thought and intelligence into it. That’s why its so bad.
What a bunch of hogwash. Why does everyone hide behind “anonymous”. Our roads are nothing but rush, rush, rush- everyone in a rush to go nowhere. If it was your barn, home, store or church that the Government wanted to take away, I’m sure you’d just submit and say – “No problem Government go ahead- take it, I’d rather see more speeding cars and insane drivers than grazing horses and happy riders”. W.C Fields said it best – “Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people”. H G Nowak
Come on get with the program there is a f***ing mile on the opposite side of that section of the road where there is no need to bother them
You’re going to have to pay more to run the road through the horse farm than if you took the mangroves on the other side. But I get it that you think you’re punishing the “elites” and think it’s worth it. Cayman is a strange place when it comes to building roads. At least the lovely junkyard is gone.
“You’re going to have to pay more to run the road through the horse farm than if you took the mangroves on the other side.”
How so? Do you know how much it costs to purchase, dig to bedrock, and fill four acres of swamp VS. purchasing half an acre of [commercially operated] medium-density residential land at bedrock?
Probably not as expensive as a possible court case with the Alberga’s vs Govt. who own the property. How may QC’s are in that family again? 2 or 3?
This is what the Alberga’s are hiding behind – a veiled threat of lawsuit. How can the Government stand by idly and allow a small family to retain such power based on fear alone?
As a citizen and a voter I’m curious about the following aspect of recent road projects – needs vs costs.
Clearly those people who use the LPH daily are anxious for relief to the traffic jams in the area, but I’m wondering what will be the result after the LPH becomes four lanes (two in each direction). Once the traffic gets to Half-Way Pond road it will bottleneck, and again become stalled. To say nothing of the crawl experienced along the west end of the runway on Crewe Road. That leaves Bobby Thompson Way (which I imagine will also be widened per original intentions although no work has commenced on that section as yet). After that traffic reaches Smith Road, what then? From that point, Smith Road and Thomas Russell Way become clogged all the way into downtown. What is the remedy for those areas? That brings my question of need. Since the works-in-progress “fix” will not completely and correctly address the need, how is this completely project justified?
To my second concern – costs. Perhaps I’ve missed it in the local media or in LA radio broadcasts but I’ve yet to see or hear a projection of the costs of the LPH expansion. I note that a portion of the First Assembly Church’s parking lot has been taken. The church initially went public with its concerns but soon went quiet, suggesting that it received a favourable settlement from Government for its property. I note at least two occupied homes and property on the Crewe Road (north) side which will need to be removed (thus acquired) to accommodate the expansion and perhaps much of the property on the south side had to be bought. Yet no costs have been revealed to the public?
At the recently corrected Red Bay roundabout there is a third (unusable) lane which cost public funds to create, yet an NRA Engineer went public on Cayman 27 saying that lane is for “future” use. When and how is a third lane on the circle required while the supporting third lane on the roadway doesn’t exist? Apart from the glaring fact that initial design flaws with this roundabout (and others) required costly corrections, at the public expense, no one has been called to account for the design flaws and the resulting costly correction. Perhaps the same “engineers” who designed these incorrect roundabouts were in charge of “re-designing” them!!
Yet with all of this, there has been no disclosure of the costs to OUR purse; or a cost/benefit disclosure!!
It behooves our media organizations, including CNS, to explore such matters and solicit answers from OUR Government, especially in the lead-up to an election.
Despite these aggressive road projects, Eastern Avenue and Seven Mile Beach roads are like washboards, as a result of years of being excavated by utility companies and not being repaired properly. Clearly there exists no repair standard or requirement for which to comply and clearly no one in political authority is paying attention to these crucial areas.
That leaves me, the voter, to surmise that the LPH is more an expensive electioneering tactic than a justified civic project. I know what to do in May 2017!!!
great commentary…nothing about this expansion ever made sense to me….or the fact that no media outlet has ever questioned why bobby thompson expansion has been stalled for 10 years….
Good luck. Government does w/e they want, i.e the extortion taking place at public beach where the local vendors service guest.
‘local vendors service guest’…????
laughable…
The piece of land is quite small for horses they could buy further East and have a lot larger piece for the value of their land. What is surprising is why do they want to stay there anyway, GT is turning into a city whether they want to accept it or not. There is land in large acreage from 10,000-20,000 per acre. This is the time to buy for the future. Plus you will be further away from Bestiality lovers
There’s some seriously questionable comments on this article, yours being one of many. If the government wants to put a road through your small yard would you just move East where land is cheaper or (after being there for 25 years and before any roads were built in the area) would you fight to keep what is rightfully yours? Further East would also be much further for clients of the Stables who predominantly live in GT and South Sound. Plus there are already Stables further East.
I hasten to add I have no affiliation with the Albergas or the riding school but I am letting common sense prevail.
Another consideration: adding more lanes doesn’t alter the fact that there is ultimately still only one way East out of GT. Until that is fixed all this proposed work will cause is yet more bottlenecking of traffic, more queues, more confusion, more road rage and likely more accidents.
The issue at hand is not about land ownership or petty jealousy, it’s a balance between protecting a unique facility which benefits so many of the community, while at the same time improving road safety for those who use the LPH commuter route.
Moving the road and roundabout South meets both of these objectives. Whoever owns the undeveloped land to the South of the EC must do the right thing for the greater good of everyone affected – commuters, the horses, and the community.
Maybe the horse riders can buy that land rather than expect the nation to subsidise their elitist hobby.
True. Pay up.
A ridiculous comment. In what way is the nation subsidising them? If people want to save and spend their own money riding horses rather than spending it on drugs, alcohol, cars and other things that is their choice, just as you have your choice on how to spend your hard earned money.
How can you say the horse riders expect the nation to subsidize their elitist hobby? This land rightfully is owned by Mary Alberga. Hey Roy don’t you have anything to say about this? Afterall it is family????
First, I live in Savannah and I have to use the Linford Pierson highway or Crew Road every day to get to and from work. When I looked at the petition, the majority of the people I see signing it and many of the people I see complaining on here don’t know the pain people from the east suffer. I waste hours on the road every day. This work is badly needed, okay.
Second, I have been very pleased with the work that the NRA has done recently on Godfrey Nixon road, Smith road and the roundabout in Red Bay. It is obvious that they know what they are doing. So I am not surprised to see that the plan that is theirs smoothens out that terrible curve by the horse place. That is what is needed, no ifs or buts.
Third, I see the widening of the Linford Pierson has taken a big slice of land off the front of the First Assembly church up at the top. I haven’t seen or heard the church people kicking up about how their church will need to be closed down. I have seen a whole pile of work going on to sort things out for them. It looks to me like they have been given some more land on the west and the parking is all being sorted out.
This brings me to the horse people. Why is it that they can see vacant land on the opposite side of the road but can’t see vacant land beside them? What is it that they have there that can’t be shifted and rearranged just like up by the church? Why do they feel that Mr Bobby whose land was used to make the road we now have must be the only one to give land and they keep every square inch of theirs? Thank God Mr Bobby put country before self.
You know why? People don’t leave their country because they run out of things to do for their country. They leave because their country not doing enough for them. This little island has done too d___ well for some people and they only want more, more, more. Pure greed and selfishness.
Mr Tibbetts, Mr Alden – don’t make these people bother unna; do what is needed for those of us leaving home before 7 o’clock in the morning and getting home after dark you hear.
This land is zoned residential and not for agriculture use. The horse stable does not have planning permission and just because they broke the law 25 years ago does not mean it is okay now? CNS, please tell the other side of the story for the other land owners in the area who DO comply. If I’m wrong, then fine…but please clarify the purpose at Lands and Survey. It is a good business, but can be relocated. That bend in the road needs to be changed.
When was this land zoned residential (if it is)? Before the riding school moved there 25 years ago or after?
Did Mr Bobby not get any financial or other compensation for “giving up his land”?
Amen..exclusive thinking is their mantra vs the greater good.
This is not a public facility. How many GeorgeTown underprivileged kids are embraced there?
Horses can be moved.
I live East, in BT and NS for the last 10 years commuting every day. Strange I don’t see it as you do. It’s also pretty plain that this additional lane will do absolutely nothing to ease the problems being experienced now, or our daily commute.
What I find interesting is that there is not one comment stating that the real problem on this island with traffic is the fact that there are TOO MANY CARS!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. Let’s increase massive the cost of car ownership. Have annual licence fees of $5000 or so. Should sort the traffic problem out very easily.
Crap public transport
Legislation must be implemented; 1 car per 1 bedroom of each resident.
2 bedroom house, you get 2 cars.
Also, like some people have already stated, the public transport system is a disgrace and people will not utilize a system which is unreliable, a rip-off and a hazard.
Far too many vehicles here on island.
If my memory is correct, when the Linford Piersons Hwy extension from Agnes Way to the roundabout was being done, the same stable owner objected and even had an conjunction in the courts, against them cutting through part of their land. So the government at that time had to push the road further south, taking in more of the other land owners property which then created the sharp “death trap” corner (which the road was originally suppose to have been straight) in order to connect with Bobby Thompson Way. Now fast forward ten years later, the same stable land owner is now objecting to this well needed widening of this Highway and now expect the government to take in more of the other land owner property, and still not to expect to give up any? Ridiculous. So while they are playing around with an petition, the poor commuters into and out of the capital has to continue to suffer in bottleneck and bumper to bumper traffic, wasting precious gas which isn’t cheap. My goodness what should take about fifteen minutes from the capital to Newlands, take about forty five minutes to an hour to get there in the evenings, so I could imagine how much longer for those who are going further east. If I was the government, I would use the nuclear option (Compulsory Acquisition) if these talks are being stalled and then afterward, we could sit down and talk over coffee about what compensation they would like for the piece we’ve acquired , because we need this road improvement like yesterday.
Whether jobs will be lost or the place being shut down doesn’t bare much to most folks I’m sure….it doesn’t affect them. It doesn’t affect me for that matter.
It doesn’t make sense however that the government needs that side of the road for any road involvement . The entire other side of the road has nothing but vegetation on it. No homes, no businesses……not a ting. Alter the road….not difficult as there is nothing there. See,s odd that the road has to go ….right along side of the riding center. ??? Hmmmm something else at work here maybe. Also seems strange that a little bit further down the road they need to take one house and tear it down for the road to go through. There is loads of room for the road there but that one house has to come down. Guess that lucky person got a property down the street….for free of course. Probably handed a hefty sum of money too. For sure. Don’t make much sense…something fishy going on here……
Government gives our roads to Dart then takes our people to build more land.
The entitlement mentality of the merchant class never ceases to amaze.
Esterley Tibbetts will soon be 4 lanes to match the 4 lanes all the way to the cricket field , then traffic chokes for thousands of motorists going to the schools District because one selfish land owner wants to keep horses right next to a highway.
This facility is not a golden age home, it’s a commercial horse stable for Pete’s sake. I can understand why the road must be there but I can’t understand why there is nowhere else to keep those horses.
Just Git er done Kurt, I guarantee you that the people signing that petition are not the thousands of registered voters you represent. those people are losing valuable hours with family as they sit and crawl in gridlock while burning unnecessary fuel.
The better for the country??? The country doesn’t give to rats ass about any of us!! I don’t see why I have to give up any of my land so the government can build a road. Look at all these moronic round abouts? Did that slow down traffic NOT AT ALL, it just caused more accidents. I am sorry people died on that road, but take a look on how they died SPEED and careless driving…
I’ve had more than enough of this hobbyist pursuit and its privileged patrons diverting one of our arterial roads in such a way that people die and have to jerk their cars around it. The people who use the stables are the only ones not put to the inconvenience and discomfort of the road being laid out the way it is now. Enough is enough. People are giving up their front yards to widen this road. Find another patch of grass and sand, horses aren’t picky.
Totally agree!
Do you have some land you are willing to donate? Didnt think so…
We need a stronger land acquisition law to deal with this type of situation. Part of this property MUST be acquired in the national interest (the part where the goats graze) to build critical infrastructure to ensure the future development of the country. It’s not about two horses and half a dozen goats, its about the PEOPLE that live and reside here. The road needs to be built through the original proposed route. We passed a ‘Maxx Lawrxxxx law’ (for her health insurance) maybe its time to pass an ‘Equestrian Center and Stables law to deal with this situation. BUILD THE ROAD NOW!
Um. They were there before the road so they didn’t divert it, poor planning and foresight by the government is the only thing to blame. Bet you would feel the same as them if government decided to put a road through your home or yard.
I like the NRA proposed plan, as it smooths out the sharp and dangerous curve, is mainly taking up land where goats are usually seen grazing and should not make a lot of difference to the business operation.
That dangerous curve is a result of earlier protests by the same owners. I hope that the Eminent Domain law is applied in full and the complaints dismissed without further ado, as the proposed alternative would be very expensive to build over mostly swamp land…
How about a little sacrifice for the good of the community???…
If you think that is a sharp and dangerous curve, you are patently unfit to be driving a car and should have your licence revoked.
It’s only sharp and dangerous if you exceed the speed limit. Even if it was a simple, common sense fix is to adjust the camber… Something that seems to escape both the CIG and the NRA.
Wny not sacrifice some of your land?
Agree totally!
Based on some rough measurements taken on Google Maps, the proposed area of land needed from the Equestrian Center in the NRA proposal is a little over half an acre. In the “proposed solution” that is provided on their petition website, the south side land owner would be forced to give up close to four acres (again) while the Equestrian Center once again, contributes nothing.
Who is the South side owner?
Its an undeveloped 36 acre parcel on the South side. Giving up one more acre to the NRA would reduce the value of the parcel by 3 percent, which the government would have to provide compensation. Taking a similar amount from the EC would effectively destroy it. The current NRA plan runs the road through the entire parking area, visitors’ stables, workers’ housing and enough pasture that Some horses will literally have nowhere to go. This facility would cost t least $5 million to replicate given all of the grading, modern stalls, irrigation, wells, fencing, housing, electrical, technical footing, etc. It isn’t as easy as just tying up the horses somewhere else on the side of the road.
@4:39 am – let’s see how you like it if government seized your property to out a road through it. I bet you’d be singing a different tune…so get off your high horse and quit being a hypocrite.
What do you think happened to Bobby Thompson? Government seized plenty of his land while the Alberga’s gave up nothing – now it’s their turn to contribute.
Government “seized” it and gave him nothing in return??????
I don’t own a horse, I’m not a hypocrite and I am also not a spoiled brat with a NIMBY syndrome.
Me neither, but I wouldn’t be happy if they wanted to run a road through or even close to my yard, would you?
Selfish moaners. Don’t hold up the road or throw any cash to appease them and their hobby.
While you are about it extend the runway through the cricket pitch – selfish hobby there too getting in the way of much needed infrastructure? Or is it different when its a popular sport?
Not sure what your angle is with that statement – the eventual development and lengthening of the runway will spill onto the land that the cricket pitch occupies (which is owned by CIGOV).
Cayman Enterprise City’s fancy drive way will replace the south sound rugby club in a couple years.
The Government cannot protect your property however they want your property for their use. Shameful
The land is not for the Government to use, it’s for the much needed expansion of an 8am and 5pm parking lot.
So get to work early or work a little late. The Cayman rush hour is over in 30 minutes.
So more cars can park there. cos it certainly will do nothing to get the traffic moving just make an existing bottleneck even worse.
There is a revised plan circulating with the petition that smoothes out the curve using undeveloped land, avoids encroachment on safety buffer and drainage functionality of the champion-building Equestrian Center – the only one of its kind in the Cayman Islands. Hopefully the entire Cayman Island Equestrian family supports this petition and reason will prevail.
If the “proposed solution” is undertaken, the severity of the curve would not be addressed. As we all know, this curve has been plagued with accidents since its inception – whether or not the drivers were obeying traffic laws is irrelevant – people died, that’s what’s relevant. There’s no doubt that the curve is necessary for slowing drivers down before entering the roundabout at Bobby Thompson Way, but as it currently sits, it’s too severe and the curve needs to be addressed, which the NRA plan does in the most efficient manner..
I think the curve could be safer if is was angled as they do in the US and as we recently have on the Red Bay roundabout.
Agreed. Accidents could further be reduced if people would only drive sensibly and keep within speed limits.
Yes, but none of these goals are achievable given the woeful standard of local driving.
Not true.
Any and all dying done in that area was self inflicted.
If curves we are worried about then get rid of all the roundabouts!!!! Duhhhh
“People died” on that curve? Really? Can you give us some names? Not names from the rest of Linford Pierson Highway -just that curve.
11:41, the curve is not even remotely severe in its curvature, nor the other curve on this bypass unless of course you are racing and trying to negotiate them at 50mph+.
‘champion-building Equestrian Center’ – ha don’t make me laugh
And it’s not the only one on island – the stables on Hirst Road is far more inclusive and has a large number of locals as clients, unlike the snobby Equestrian Centre
Excuse me but a Caymanian rider from the EC went to the youth Olympics and brought home a bronze medal. Another junior Caymanian rider from the EC is currently representing Cayman in the 1.30m jumpers in Europe. Jessica McTaggart is on track to compete, again, at the CAC and Pan Am games.
well done to her, but me on my donkey could have come third out of three
To expand on this comment.
The Team Jumping event at the 2014 Youth Olympics was guaranteed that each participant earn a medal as they were grouped with other countries by region, and only three groups were created. Cayman was partnered with Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, and the Dominican Republic, and came in last place.
Basically this medal was nothing more than a participation prize, don’t try to hype it up into something more than it is.
The entire equestrian family comprises maybe 200 people out of 50,000.
The greater good…. you mean it is in your best interest and the best interests of motorists and you just don’t care about how this may impact other people. What about the property rights of the owners of the Equestrian Center? What price this corner of land now, who will be next?
The need for the road extension is clear, how about the government buying the entire site from the owners and also re-locating them somewhere else? A win-win….
A good solution I agree
That makes sense.
It would cost millions to replicate the EC somewhere else. The value of the one acre of undeveloped land across the way (of a 36 acre parcel) is less than $200K.
I know someone who has died on that dangerous bend in the road which goes around the riding school. I personally think the road need to be straightened to go through the riding school to avoid any further deaths.
Speed cameras…. perhaps….. Rather than trampling all over the rights of another.
Here here!
I think you mean ‘hear hear’
No no, over there
There, there.
Ironically, this is right where RCIPS debuted their mobile speed display monitor roughly nine years ago – I was there for that.
It would probably be just as effective (and a heck of lot cheaper) to install rumble strips or paint chevrons on the road like they do in the UK. They are both very effective at slowing traffic down.
If people didn’t drive like idiots here there would be no accidents.
This is the truth.
There’s the true answer. If ” people”, a term loosely used, knew how to drive there would not be such a problem to begin with.
Equestrian Center owners, this is for the greater good. Just make sure that the government is not low-balling you on the price.
Wait a minute, who gives the right of Kirk Tibbetts making that type of remark as a matter of fact how can anyone say “its for the better good”. This is the Equestrian’s land, Mary Alberga owns this land, so why does she have to be forced of “selling it off”. What about her business? Does anyone take that into account. SHE OWNS THIS LAND!!!! PAID FOR IT!!! No I am sorry there is no blame that should be laid on her for not wanting to sell her land.
Ignorant people passes remarks…..look what is happening to Cayman now when “Dart” owns a good portion and wants now to destroy the one thing, the beaches by removing rocks….
I hope the Equestrian wins this fight!!!
I hope you don’t really need an explanation as to why Kurt Tibbetts has the right to make that remark. If you do, it’s because the People of the Cayman Islands elected him into Government. Who are you to argue with the voice of the people?
11:40am, the people who voted him in are morons he has been in office for 4 years and has done not a damthing
If this land was owned by a “generational Caymanian” who supported the PPM there would be no argument. Either nothing happened or it would be bought by the Government for an outrageous sum way beyond the value put on it by the Lands and Survey dept. This has happened for many years and is not limited to the PPM. The UDP and, before it, Unity Team/National Team did it too. It’s the Caymanian way.
The reason the empty land opposite from the EC is not being considered by the NRA is that the owner of that land is well connected to a certain MLA.
It’s ignorant to ignore the fact that there are two owners – both who have value invested in land that will be potentially lost. Just because a piece of land is undeveloped doesn’t mean it won’t impact that owner.
Yes but the value lost from the NRA buying one acre of 36 acres of undeveloped land amounts to 3% versus destroying a business and putting 3 Caymanians, among others out of work. Why do we love paving over Paradise?
The owners are ridiculous. They placed a court injunction on the widening of the road over 10 years ago while thousands suffer in gridlock every day.
several Caymanians had to give up property over the years for the greater good, I know for a fact that the NRA has tried to appease them over the years with several design alternatives but as the minister alude, they wish to give up nothing while Bobby Thompson gives up everything.
Kurt, I hope you put your foot down on this one, sometimes you have to do what you have to do and the community must do their part to help the country
The owners are not ridiculous. They are exercising their rights. The independent courts are there to protect the small person against state largesse. Long may it continue.
You are correct in that the independent courts are there to protect the small person, but what about the small person who owns the land on the other side? Keep in mind that when Linford Pierson Highway was originally constructed, the Equestrian Center put up zero land to benefit the road construction, while the south side owner had to give up close to four acres. A reasonable person would argue that it is unethical to ask the same land owner to once again give up 100% of the land for the much needed road expansion.
Somehow I think the EC doesn’t care about that…
Not if they get paid full value.
You are ridiculous. If this were your riding school – your business you’d be singing a different song. Caymanians have no empathy for one another just jealousy. SAD