Men suffer life-changing injuries after fight at 7M shops

| 25/06/2022 | 134 Comments

(CNS): Two men were stabbed, one in the eye and the other in the abdomen, during a fight shortly after midnight Friday outside a bar in Seven Mile Shops off the West Bay Road. The RCIPS did not identify the bar where the altercation took place but it is understood to be The Bird. At around 12:40am, one man brandished a knife and stabbed the two victims, but he left the scene before the police and emergency services arrived and has not yet been apprehended. The wounded men were taken to hospital to be treated for serious and life-changing injuries.  

“We know that there were a number of people at the location at the time of the incident and are appealing for witnesses to come forward,” said Superintendent Pete Lansdown. “The only way to end this type of violence is for the public to stand up against it. When offenders know their actions will not be tolerated by the community as a whole, they will think twice about committing violent acts.”

Anyone who witnessed the incident or has any information is asked to contact George Town CID at 949-4222. Anonymous tips can be provided directly to the RCIPS Confidential Tip Line at 949-7777, or the website.


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  1. Anonymous says:

    Bird is doomed if they become latest hang for wrong local crowd. Handel better get involved and manage it like calicos.

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  2. ELVIS says:

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

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  3. Anonymous says:

    In my day, it was Sharkeys and Rumheads ( and even Silvers if you really want to go back). Even the old Holiday Inn (current Ritz) was a fun night out.

    Never had to worry about this stuff.

    A nostalgic aside…Billies jerk chicken and their jerk pizza in the building on Kirks parking lot. I could (and did) eat that up for hours! I think they closed pre Ivan.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Not necessarily true. The father of one of these punks used to try the same shit in those very same establishments. Apples and trees come to mind.

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  4. Anonymous says:

    bird need to enforce the following:
    no chains
    no sports shorts
    no sleveless sports tops
    no suglasses to be worn inside

    this will help.

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    • watcher says:

      I think you are focusing on entirely the wrong variables, or put another way, your changes would not cause a positive shift in the social strata.

      We need to have an RCIPS presence in most of these club locations, imo. An armed presence. I am sorry it has come to this, but this is the world in which we now live.

      Everywhere has more danger than ever before, and we are not allowed any tools in which to protect ourselves, not even nonlethal ones. Therefore, unless we expect the RCIPS to just continue to respond to bad shit that happens here after the fact, there should be an RCIPS presence at each and every difficult pub/club/bar.

      It’s not profiling, or if it is, it is just an acknowledgement of the truth of the situation; several places have a higher probability of violence. Let us monitor them.

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    • Anonymous says:

      I sometimes fit the above description about 75% because of the temperature outside.. wtf.. I wouldn’t hurt a fly

      dumb generalisation

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    • Anonymous says:

      LMAO you are so lost

  5. Anonymous says:

    The Bird is actually a great place to hangout most days/times to catch a game and the food is great. Sucks this happened there but am not surprised considering the Fri/Sat scene there is more often becoming familiar to that of the Strand…as in too many sketchy drunk people loitering around outside, some staring/giving looks and generally just bringing an uncomfortable vibe to the location.
    So really was only a matter of time before volatile people would cross paths and this kind of thing would happen there. when it’s not packed with the many heathens that are roamFriday and Saturday night etc. Might be time for them to step up security a bit and manage the crowds during peak times.
    Yes we’re safer than a lot of places but Cayman can and should be better than this and we should be aiming a lot higher than we are. Tourists, expats and locals alike ought to feel safe when they go out, even if it’s really late. Nobody here should feel like they are taking a risk after being out after a certain time, especially on SMB where many people who do not even live here stay and hang out. I can imagine tourists seeing these recurring stories in what is supposed to be the ‘safer’ area of the island and feeling like they’d rather stay at their hotel which is just plain sad.

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  6. Anonymous says:

    this is what happens when locals try and take over the newest hot-spot…. locals runined lillies and every other good night spot on the island.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Feel free to leave Cayman so you don’t have to mingle with locals at all. Flights depart every day of the year! Thanks!

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      • Anonymous says:

        Your sentiment also works for locals. You can leave here any time you choose to not conduct yourself with maturity.

        Don’t let the door hit you…….

        Thanks!

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        • You Mussi Mad says:

          Wait deh….I am not the original poster here. But I’m sorry we (locals) must do what? I as a Caymanian will be here till the frickin’ wheels fall off!

          While you and others like you may think you can effectively run me out of Cayman, let me be the first to tell you – NAH TODAY BOBO! Nor any other day to come. You came and found us here, you can go and leave us right yah too. Toodles!

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      • Anonymous says:

        Done, never again. A complete dump full of racist, lazy and corrupt locals.

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        • Anonymous says:

          Good! See ya lata, SILLY BUM! By the way, if where you are from is so wonderful – why come here in the first place? Joke’s on you at the end of the day.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Actually the service ruined Tillies.

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    • Anonymous says:

      you actually ruined it just by being here thats crazy tho

  7. Anonymous says:

    Given someone on this thread is stating that that two men jumped the other and he then defended himself with a knife…

    Have you informed the police and given names since you appear to know the whole story?

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    • Anonymous says:

      Keep watching this space – you will have to wait and see what will be reported by the RCIPS/courts now won’t you. 😉

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  8. Anonymous says:

    While it is in fact wrong to carry a knife – two people should not provoke, gang up on, nor jump on someone else and not expect the person to defend themselves either!! What would you do if it were you on the ground with people on top of you??

    Instead of actually thinking about what could have caused this man to react in such a way – people are busy spreading the narrative like as though this man just walked up and started slashing random people…LOL!!

    Is this being done because of who these two problematic young men belong to? They are in fact known to be trouble-makers themselves and in fact were recently involved in an incident at the same establishment!!! But yeah, money has always talked in Cayman…..so keep talking your nonsense – the courts will have a giant task deciphering what actually happened.

    However, in the meanwhile let’s please all try to practice the use of common sense before commenting on a public forum.

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    • Anonymous says:

      It’s wrong to carry a knife? Jeez thanks for clearing up that ‘fact’. It’s wrong to stab people too. I don’t know, or care, who was involved or why it happened but if you’re out late at night with a knife you’re a wrong un.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Ganging people is also wrong but meh carry on spewing your narrative.

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        • Anonymous says:

          “Ganging people”. That’s at least the third time you’ve said that so it’s pretty obvious the stabby loser is a friend of yours but I really couldn’t care less. The point stands, anyone carrying a knife late at night to stab people and does is a wrong un irrespective of who they stab or why.

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        • Anonymous says:

          “Spewing the narrative” that people who carry knives and get in fights and stab people are bad people? You disagree?

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          • Anonymous says:

            Reading is fundamental. I said carrying a knife is wrong. However, defending yourself against 2 people who choose to pick a fight and attack you at one time is not.

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            • Anonymous says:

              No one said it wasn’t. Reading is fundamental huh? Seems you brought a knife to a gunfight in that department pal.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Hmmm.
      No. the man knifed in the abdomen stepped in to try and stop the fight. He was stabbed and then the second man was stabbed in the eye. We need to do better Cayman. Leave the guns and knives locked in the safe. Go out and have a pleasant evening and go home without hurting others. It really shouldn’t be that hard.

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      • Anonymous says:

        And where were they in relation to the stabber at the time they got stabbed? Both on top of him!!!! You tell me if that was parting the fight.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Real men throw punches and leave it there; even discuss over a cold beer afterwards.

      P***** and Wasteman carry knives.

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  9. Anonymous says:

    I do not know what went down but I can say this particular bar is patronized predominantly by expats. So let’s get the truth out there first about what really happened before assuming anything and pointing fingers at any one group of people.

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  10. Anonymous says:

    This is the case anywhere in the world. Nothing good happens after midnight

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  11. Anonymous says:

    I will keep an eye out for the criminals

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  12. Johnny the Wad says:

    Troll

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  13. Anonymous says:

    Terrible atmosphere, terrible food and most of all, terrible staff, in particular the bartender.

    It just fuels the late-night alcoholism which is so prevalent on this Island. People are already drinking and driving from this parking lot every night.

    Now people are getting stabbed and shot on the weekends.

    Shut it down

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  14. Anonymous says:

    The violence always comes when people are desperate. Inflation and wage stagnation coupled with dedades of mediocre education is here.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Violent targeted attacks come with proximity to psychotic criminals that would plan to go and find their mark and stab them in the eye. Doesn’t matter if the psycho attacker’s feelings were hurt over a girl, gang rank, and/or money they felt they are owed: they are degenerates. Often lifelong arrest records. There are entire communities that know very well who they are, where they live, the other things that aren’t reported, and then underwrite this activity by saying and doing nothing.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Try again, two little IDIOTS should not gang someone else and not expect him to defend himself!

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        • Anonymous says:

          Accepted if you are attacked you are fully entitles to defend yourself. If 2 litle teenagers “ganged me” , I happily punch them in the face. What I wouldn’t do is stab them with a knife I shouldn’t have on me in the first place. Now there are potentially 2 life’s ruined over a minor scuffle.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Was good when it was Bandito Cantina. Now wouldn’t go within 100 yards of the place.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Two young punks ‘dissing’ another young punk and coming away with a silver medal each for their trouble. They watch far too much TV and think they are Al Capone.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Bs. My grandparents went through WW2, hunger and endless loss and they never did such a thing. They were some of the most hardworking, decent people this world has known. Stop this nonsense about cost of living pushing people to crimes of such kind. It’s the lack of proper upbringing and frigging entitlement rubbed into minds of nowadays. Spoiled to the core, wanting the most expensive everything thinking the Universe owes them something yet they often struggle to read or look for a job which are many around.

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      • Mumbichi says:

        I wasn’t going to post on this story, but your writing compelled me.

        I have carried a pocket knife all of my life, beginning around 8 years old. I am 66. It is a tool, a very useful tool that gets used every day. If some fool pulled a knife on me, I would never use my own; I am better without it.

        I also would never go to any of these clubs that young thugs frequent. I have no time for such nonsense. When I go out, I want to have fun, not get in a fight or defend my life.

        Understand, though, while I am elderly by some standards, if someone persists in threatening me any place, I will use those tools available to me to defend myself and I will do so with bad intentions. I hope to never need to do so. I don’t believe it is our obligation to suffer threats or violence where we haven’t instigated it.

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        • Anonymous says:

          A knife is a concealed weapon. Only a psycho or criminal would carry one in their pocket to settle disputes.

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      • Mumbichi says:

        p.s.

        Agreed with everything you said. Well done.

    • Anonymous says:

      do you really believe that? if they are so poor and desperate. What are they doing at a bar?
      shouldn’t they be at home? Drinking beer bought from the store. which is much cheaper?

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  15. T Total says:

    These days anybody can get a liquor licence and they are sprouting everywhere around Cayman just like the sargasso seaweed.Do we really need a massive emporium like the one that opened on Eastern Ave, formerly a hardware store?. The fact that during lockdown liquor stores were classified as essential businesses says it all.We are breeding a nation of alcoholics and now paying the price.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Poor education and a undiversified economy are the larger issues at hand. These and construction for foreign investors aimed not a regular people are as well.

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      • Anonymous says:

        It would be fine if the construction companies and real estate agencies employed (much) more locals.

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        • Anonymous says:

          A Caymanian working on a construction site???? Are you serious?

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          • Anonymous says:

            Had plenty Caymanians working construction before. My father and grandfather and uncles built their own houses.

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            • Anonymous says:

              Definitely not the case now, those hard labour jobs are beneath them now.
              And it’s one thing to build your own house, it’s another to have a job building them for others

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  16. Anonymous says:

    How is this kind of thuggery any surprise when your “leaders” can beat a woman on cctv, walk free, not even lose their damn job and even get reelected? Woman beaters and drug dealers… THIS is who you voted for and THIS is what we get as a result.

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  17. Anonymous says:

    Sometimes certain types of people go to regular establishments looking for fights amongst the common drunks at these bars. With a culture and laws that permit excessive drinking what can we expect. What does the future of these islands look like? Something needs to change,’for one public intoxication should be a crime, no more carrying open alcohol in public and greater consequences for Drinking and driving.

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    • Anonymous says:

      think you’re missing the point here. Carrying a knife is the crime. Not having a drink.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Perhaps, but two people should not gang or jump on someone else and not expect him to defend himself! What would you do if it were you??

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        • Anonymous says:

          I would be home sleeping at that hour. Anyone out at those establishments at that time really needs to check their priorities in life.

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  18. Who Really Cares about Cayman ? says:

    Cayman unfortunately has become its neighbor to the southeast who is completely riddle with crime yet we keep adding more and more of its influence to our society. Yet our benevolent Guardian and ruler and its representative does little or nothing to protect or keep us safe only here to look out for its own financial interest . What a real shame some idiots here hold them and him up as some sort of savior and believe his waffling and spineless drivel shows he has some regard for Cayman when Infact he couldn’t give a damn about this place or what happen to its people .

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    • Anonymous says:

      While we keep electing convicted criminals, thugs and uneducated halfwits how the hell is it anyone else’s fault?

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    • Anonymous says:

      not sure what your point is. This is Cayman’s own problem, home-grown, and not Jamaica’s fault.

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  19. 345 Mafia says:

    Close this $#@% down but alas only the names will change ,Everyday we keep wasting away . This place has become what it unfortunately keeps importing to this island “Garbage “ and when piled up in one spot becomes a Dump .

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  20. Anonymous says:

    The police will never be able to stop the violence that happens at these drinking holes. Incidents of extreme violence at local night spots are more common now than ever before.

    We need real change and reform, which means singling out bars like The Bird and limiting their hours to maybe 9pm. Or shut them down completely.

    A person getting stabbed or shot in and around bars like The Bird is now a weekly occurrence.

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  21. Anonymous says:

    The Bird needs to be closed down. Along with Vics, Dump road bar and Bananas. These establishments are infested with drugs and deadly weapons.

    Enough is enough

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  22. Anonymous says:

    I would like to see the statistics of how many of these crimes are fueled by alcohol consumption. I would bet my house at least 90%. But yet we still can’t smoke a spliff in our yards with out fear of prosecution. “If weed can’t be legal, then alcohol must be illegal”

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  23. Anonymous says:

    Local bars have always had problems with local people. The only difference is the choice of weapons. In the early 70’s those places had off duty police hired for Friday and Saturday night. No problem with stabs, shot, fights etc. But they had respect for the Caymanian police. Those days no one would harbour the drunk or ignorant person. They certainly would get a lawyer’s letter from the owner of the establishment.
    I will never forget at 16 there was nothing to do at night besides go to a dance at a club. Food would be sold and no one under 21 could or would get alcohol. I would always go with my parents. One night while dancing at Apollo a man dancing with a woman bounced into me. He said it was my fault and immediately wanted to go outside and fight about it. I said to him with a smile, “I didn’t do it on purpose”. That meant nothing to him he just wanted to cause problems. Think about how small the dance floor was and you drinking? You going to touch somebody! The owner told the man to leave, he had to much to drink and couldn’t handle his beer. He immediately stepped up and said he goin East End and come back with his gun? 2 local Caymanian men took him outside and put him in a car. He got a letter the next day. Don’t come back. Remember when you had security use a wand to check for weapons? Why did that stop?
    I heard a story from a friend who over night in Tegucigalpa. He got in late and the hotel restaurant was closed. He asked if there was any open close to the hotel? He said go by taxi, the family got a taxi and passed people going to a night club. People were taking out their guns, knives, brass knuckles, etc.
    Well we have to go back to what works.

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  24. Anonymous says:

    The comments reflect the change in Cayman from 1990 to 2020. In 1990 my wife, I and two children could go out and feel safe between 6 and 9 PM. NOT ANYMORE!

    There were NO excuses for violence back then. NOW every crime has a p.ss poor excuse. Cayman, get your sh.t in order.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Unfortunately, the internet brought Thug Life from LA etc. to our thugs to imitate. Before 1990 they didn’t see all that crap.

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      • Anonymous says:

        That’s actually true! Even Honduras and Mexico didn’t have this level of violence prior to the 90’s

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      • Anonymous says:

        Don’t leave out the Cabinet status grants, the transition to Caribbean exams (with accompanying teachers), the move away from British policing, and the failure of the tourism industry to engage with the local populace. There are many factors. The internet is only a small part of the problem.

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      • Anonymous says:

        It was also the private radios stations started in the early 90’s as well as easily accessible TV from USA

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      • Anonymous says:

        Right, dial up modems brought crime to cayman…. Do you even remember the internet in the 90s? People make it sound like caymans original settlers were saints. Always ready to point the finger at someone or something else for our own cultural flaws is possible our greatest flaw in and off itself.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Your stated family time frame is still very safe. Even until a bit later. After midnight it can become quite different.
      Just like most towns/cities that I have been in during the last 10 years.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Why can’t you still go out between 6-9 pm? I think you missed the part in the article that said the incident happened around 12:40 am. Most families are not out and about at 12:40 am.

      Not sure where you’re coming from but most other places in the world still have a higher crime rate than we do here in Cayman. If this is your “reason” for not wanting to visit Cayman, then I suggest you buy yourself a private island so you and you’re family can feel safe on.

      I’m sure where you live now has way more crime than the isolated incidents that happen here.

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  25. Anonymous says:

    An investigative review of all establishments that cater to these thugs and animals should be undertaken right away.

    All these bars like Bananas, The Strand, and especially The Bird need to be shut down!!

    This is an urgent matter of public safety

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  26. Anonymous says:

    Police asking for help? How about police doing their job, how about the judiciary doing its job, how about the courts enforcing laws. Cayman is a self-inflicted mess. Don’t blame Jamacians, don’t blame expats, don’t blame anyone other than yourselves. This is your country – accept responsibility, or accept the consequences.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Sounds good to me!

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    • Anonymous says:

      What and risk not getting a medal from the Queen? Best thing is just hang loose and collect that paycheck, let the natives take care of themselves. Less of them will be more room for us. See you at Camana Bay dude!

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    • Anonymous says:

      You do realize that it isn’t always Caymanians committing the crimes right? There are many nationalities here, some of whom have criminals too. I think it’s fairly obvious they accept the responsibility of the citizens residing in this country, and are appealing to the public for assistance in creating a safe environment for all.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Idiot. Of course the police need help – from witnesses. If no witnesses are prepared to step up, the police can’t gather the evidence they need to bang these guys up.

      Surely that’s so obvious it doesn’t need spelling out? Or maybe it does.

      Before you hit the keyboard in your rage, for God’s sake think.

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      • Anonymous says:

        They have a history of treating those that help them, or try to, with disdain. A history of failing to enforce laws. A history of incompetence. A history of failing to protect witnesses. A history of wasting public funds. A history of failing to modernize. Until they demonstrate meaningful change, they can go screw themselves. Skylar Mack proved one thing. They (and their associated agencies) can do their job, if they want to.

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    • Anonymous says:

      6.04pm Most “Caymanians” now are actually Jamaicans so yes they contribute to our problems big time.

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  27. Anonymous says:

    Da Bird

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  28. Al Catraz says:

    This sort of thing happens when they can’t play music on Sundays.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Please offer a logical response instead of crap. Your attitude is part of the problem of the horrible Cayman Culture.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Horrible Cayman Culture? If it’s so awful why are you here? Have some respect. I thank God daily that I have been blessed enough to move to Cayman and make a life here. Are things perfect? Definitely not, however we are doing far better than some other places. Quit knocking the people of these islands

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  29. Anonymous says:

    The Bird attracts chickens with knives!

    If you take a weapon of any sort to a night out, you’re an absolute tool.

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  30. Anonymous says:

    CCTV? License plate scanners? The police are asking for witnesses? The suspect has not been apprehended, on a tiny island. We should just give up…

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    • Anonymous says:

      Yes. How sad. If everyone wants violence to be handled, why not be part of the solution. Yes, I realize the risk, but there will be no positive change until the populace stands up and identified those few who ruin the atmosphere for everyone.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Been there. Done that. The Police were not just incompetent. They were dangerous.

        Technology and funding exist. They refuse to use them. There are two standards being applied, in part based on who the perpetrator is, and who the victim is. We are lawless. It has become ingrained. We have adopted the standards of failed states. Effective policing can never work on 7.5 hour shifts. The commissioner realized that. Those under him don’t care.

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        • Anonymous says:

          No lie, our Police farce is just another slide through loophole for all the failed jcf mostly but some jdf post members so won’t get better unless we get some guyanese or trinis as the fowls are running a muck.

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