CIG revokes PR from 41 bad debtors

| 07/01/2022 | 180 Comments
Cayman News Service
WORC entrance

(CNS): In a rare move, Workforce Opportunities and Residency Cayman (WORC) has revoked the permanent residence (PR) certificates of 41 people, as of 31 December, after they failed to pay their annual fees. The people in question were described as bad debtors and each of them had received numerous letters before their PR status was rescinded for non-payment. Officials said 53 warning letters had been issued to people with PR advising them to make delinquent payments or face the loss of their PR certificates.

“It’s important for permanent residents who hold PR certificates to remain in compliance with the requirements that come along with holding such a certificate,” said Acting Interim Director of WORC Laura Watler.

“Permanent resident status should be respected and seen as a privilege and not a right. When holders of PR certificates do not abide by the law, the certificate can be taken away. Making the required payment annually is the right thing to do to avoid revocation,” she added.

Watler thanked her staff at WORC for their vigilance and working to verify and ensure compliance to bring these delinquencies forward for enforcement.

“I welcome this decision to address the longstanding issue of non-payment of Permanent Residence fees,” said Border Control Minister Chris Saunders. “It has been absolutely unfair to the many hardworking permanent residents of these Islands who have played by the rules and paid their annual fees faithfully every year to have people be delinquent and face no consequences.”

He added, “We understand that these are challenging times, but there are options available for those having difficulties. Ignoring the warning letters and not paying the fees at all is not the way to go.”

All residents holding PR certificates are expected to comply with the country’s immigration laws by taking the necessary steps to ensure that payment is made on or before the annual due date. The immigration act provides up to 90 days for payments to be made after they are due. After that individuals are sent “mindful to revoke” letters.

If a payment remains outstanding, the letters are referred to the Cayman Status Permanent Residency Board or the Director of WORC, who have the authority to revoke permanent residency certificates for non-payment.

PR holders are also required to submit annual declarations about their working situation, and not doing this is also an offence and cause for revocation

“The non-payment of PR fees has been an issue since I was first elected to Parliament back in 2009,” said Parliamentary Secretary for Labour Dwayne Seymour. “I’m very pleased to see that it is being dealt with effectively and in accordance with our laws.”

PR holders can make their annual payments in person by visiting the WORC office at Apollo House West, 87 Mary Street, George Town or by using the stand-alone payment portal accessible here through the JobsCayman portal. Instructions on how to use the payment portal can be found on the website.


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  1. Anonymous says:

    We must stop this “Cayman Kind” shit it is killing us..we need a strong straight up leader. The path we are on is not a good one.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Nice job, WORC! Now if only WORC could share with the public the factual reasoning behind firing Caymanian employees at Christmas time during a pandemic siting “budget constraints” – that would be awesome.

  3. Puker says:

    —- and so many Caymanians now have Permanent Residence in the U.K FOR FREE!.

    • Anonymous says:

      No. Only British citizens do. Nothing to do with being Caymanian. Educate yourself on the facts before spreading your entitled vitriol.

      • Say it like it is. says:

        7.29pm My education is obviously superior to yours, it’s a fact that well over a thousand Caymanians have been granted full British passports which means they have the same status as any British born citizen, not only that but they are NOT referred to as paper Brits unlike paper Caymanians who have this slur bestowed on them by so many of your vitriolic countrymen.

        • Anonymous says:

          No. Over a thousand British Citizens have been granted full British Passports. If there was a Caymanian who was not a British Citizen they had to apply for that citizenship in accordance with the rules. British Rules.

          Do tell me though, is a Caymanian man who gets a British Passport having become a British Citizen, an Englishman? Are they a Scott? Welsh? An Irishman?

          You are as arrogant as you are entitled.

        • Anonymous says:

          Actually has nothing to do with being Caymanian. Once you are a BOTC you can apply to become a full British Citizen, and receive a British passport which I have and my children have done.

        • obviously MY education is superior.. read a history book says:

          we never asked to be british – we just happen to reap the benefits of your colonialistic country. but YOU happened to come here by choice. see the difference?

          • Anonymous says:

            We have always been British. We were already British when we asked to remain British in 1963.

        • Anonymous says:

          9:56 am, I been to U K, and will never go back, I never had a UK Passport, don’t want and will never get one, you can keep yours and don’t bother to try to get a Caymanian passport, ok, thanks. Good day.

    • Anonymous says:

      Half of whom are paper…good riddance.

  4. Anonymous says:

    How many paper caymanians broke the law and went to prison and their status revoked?

    • Anonymous says:

      None. But that is because we do not enforce any laws around here. Hell, we hardly even pretend to.

    • Anonymous says:

      Most probably none.,, I wish we would enforce our laws. It’s despicable what these Expats and status holders are doing to Cayman.

  5. caymankind says:

    Cayman kind at it’s best, punishing people during a time of economic hardship.

    How about going after the real criminals, the thief’s that break into people’s homes and cars and attack women on the street?

    • Anonymous says:

      These people are taking opportunities , requiring government support they are not entitled to, causing social issues, and living here in breach of their obligations Everyone breaking the law should be held to account. Everyone.

    • Anonymous says:

      We are still not responsible for your plight – you all need to find a flight back to your country.. end of subject we just cannot continue on this path.

  6. Anonymous says:

    53 Warning Letters????!!! Now that alone speaks volumes to the slackness in how this entire situation has been managed.

    • Logic 101 says:

      I think it speaks more to your lack of reading comprehension ability.

    • Anonymous says:

      Sigh. Not 53 letters each. 53 letters in total, following which 41 people had PR revoked. Not sure if that means 12 actually paid up, some got more than 1 letter ,or they simply forgot about them – who knows with WORC.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Nice start to the New Year PACT. Keep it up!!!

  8. Anonymous says:

    100% behind you 155pm many need to go home especially the criminal element instead of leaching off the system and endangering others on our streets and roads.Huge amount of immigration violators especially those working outside the condition of their permit very little being done about them a real and enormous drain on our economy.The unscrupulous and cheap employers need to go too who are deliberately violating the law. The UK deporting them yet they are here with they right to family life rubbish encouraging slackness to continue with these baby mamas who are not even Caymanian WTF ? The whole premise and precedent case here of a UK deportee who was brought here by his mother who committed a serious offence whilst on a work permit. The laws need to be enforce and proper vetting of all those arriving here in Cayman you are absolutely right Anon 155pm.

  9. Anonymous says:

    List the names so we know who they are!

  10. Anonymous says:

    How about revoking healthcare from all of the HSA’s debtors?

    • Anonymous says:

      Straight up 835am and stop the real fraud too of certain govt employees overseas dependents not living here fleecing the system ! ssssssh too much foolishness going on in KY eh Sir Alden !

    • Anonymous says:

      It would be interesting to know how many of the debtors are work permit holders or permanent residents. I am confident there are many. Why does Cayman tolerate this? The law is clear. Why don’t we follow it?

    • Anonymous says:

      Let us hope that one day you are not in need of life saving medical attention with no means of paying for it.

    • Anonymous says:

      How about ending health insurance company non coverage..even for premium payments?!!

  11. Anonymous says:

    Isn’t it illegal to require a work permit holder to pay for their permit? So why is it okay for a those same persons to pay to work under the PR system? Scummy scam by government to transfer liability from employers to employees if you ask me.

    • Anonymous says:

      PR has nothing to do with your employer, it is a personal obligation. Some folks manage to get their employers to pay, but the obligation is solely that of the PR holder.

    • Anonymous says:

      Not a scam, if “you” want permanent residency the law says you must pay an annual fee. Break the law and it is revoked.

      The law also says that if “your employer” wants to take out a work permit for you they must pay for it.

      Pay your damn fee or don’t apply for permanent residency..Plain and simple!

    • Anonymous says:

      Big difference. PR a holders can work in their approved occupation for any employer or employers (except themselves). In addition, the fee is payable whether they are working or not. That is why it is important that responsibility for payment rests with them. Work permit holders are bound to work for a single employer or approved employers. Hence the appropriateness of requiring those employers to pay. The obligation to pay work permit fees also acts as a disincentive to employ work permit holders rather than Permanent Residents and Caymanians.

    • Anonymous says:

      Sort of. Most reputable employers pay their employees’ PR fees. The advantage to PR holders is that they are no longer stuck with their particular employer as with the work permit system.

      The scummy move by government is having WORC pay no attention to applications by PR holders often not looking at them for six months plus, making them a lower priority than Caymanians (fair enough) and work permit holders which is unfair.

    • Anonymous says:

      If you are a work permit holder, your employer can cancel your permit and your ability to remain in the island ( incidentally one of the reasons that some employers prefer WO employees – more controllable). It’s “their” work permit, not the employees. With PR your employer can fire you but it doesn’t affect your immigration status, and you can walk to a new employer. So it’s “your” permit. On your logic the employer could pay the annual PR fee only to see the employee waltz off to a competitor. It’s a logical approach – albeit everyone may be better off if WP holders both paid for their fees and held the permit once granted even if they got fired. It still expires and if they haven’t found a new job by then….

    • Anonymous says:

      PR is personal to the holder of the PR and not to your employer. Most employers will pay the work permit fee (thats the ethical thing to do). But the ultimate responsibility for PR fees is with the PR holder.

  12. Anonymous says:

    No names?

  13. Anonymous says:

    This is the Cayman Islands, if can’t pay you can’t stay.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Any prospect of them even starting to enforce any other aspect of the immigration regime?

    Non payment of fees is only one way to have PR revoked.

    What about committing crimes?
    What about working outside terms and conditions (including PR holders in the so-called “public service”)?
    What about failing to abide by health, Labour and Pension Laws?
    What about failing to file annual declarations?

    And then don’t even get me started on the literally thousands of expatriates working outside the terms and conditions of their work permits, or based on false advertising.

    Good to see some rules being enforced, but there are many many more that the authorities have literally ignored for a decade.

    There is every prospect of corruption being an element of the non enforcement. Someone should be looking into why we have not enforced our laws for so long. Bring back some confidence in our systems PACT!

    • Anonymous says:

      @1:58pm This a great start and to be fair the PPM was around for 20 plus years and just looked the other way.

      Proud of the PACT Government starting this and I hope they take your comments in check and start cleaning house. Too many people have come here, broken laws and taken advantage of us. There are plenty of good expats that come here and want to be a part of us and those are the ones that we should be attracting, not these criminals and those that refuse to even pay for their annual fees.

      • Anonymous says:

        PPM was around for 20 years? They were in office for two terms – less than 8 years. UDP for 4 years before that, then PPM for another 5. But even counting all 3 terms way less than 20 years. Your maths is off or you are having a convenient failure of memory as to McKeevas role in all this. Not a PPM issue – its a general problem – our politicians lack the courage to take on immigration as an issue, or even to hold the civil service to account in enforcing the rules.

    • Anonymous says:

      What about enforcing penalties against owners that do not pay pension that happen to be Caymanian. Or is it just a crime of an expat doesn’t pay. Asking foe a friend

      • Anonymous says:

        Every law should be enforced with equal tenacity. All day. Every day. If government does not like the result it should change the law.

        • Chris Johnson says:

          Well said.Enforcement is one of the biggest problems Cayman has and to name but a few departments I illustrate as follows:
          Pensions contributions
          Health contributions
          Illegal parking
          CPA illegal structures
          DOE disregard of the laws
          Speeding
          Non payment of government fees
          Garbage dumping

          Enforcement needs to be high on the government agenda.

          • Anonymous says:

            All true Chris. And important amongst them all: Fronting. A crime actively facilitated by the DCI which refuses to do anything about it.

          • Say it like it is says:

            Chris I would like to refer to the irony, that I suspect most of these outraged Caymanians thirsting for blood have been granted Permanent Residence in the U.K and apart from the initial cost of their passport it costs them nothing!.

          • Anonymous says:

            Chris you missed out CIMA who failed to spot the fraud perpetrated by First Cayman Bank etc and the many failings of the hedge funds that are being liquidated.

  15. Anonymous says:

    PR Holders who are off Island often run the clock and apply for Caymanian Status. Another loop hole that needs to be fixed.

    • Anonymous says:

      It is not a loophole. The law is pretty much fine. The problem arises because the authorities fail and even refuse to enforce the law. The result is our ever increasing descent into lawlessness, social decay, and potential ruin.

    • Anonymous says:

      I don’t think that is possible, you can’t be delinquent in fees and be granted Status.

    • Anonymous says:

      That’s not possible. Your travel history is checked with immigration and you can’t be absent for more than 90 days in any one year or you won’t get naturalisation and status. I got stuck overseas due to covid and couldn’t get a reply from Travel Time, so I ended up being away for more than 90 days. Now I can’t apply for naturalisation for another 5 years.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not true. You can apply. The reasons and extent of your absences are taken into account. The 90 day rule has no bearing on status (although it probably should).

    • Anonymous says:

      pretty sure you have to give evidence of time on island by paying for departures/arrivals list from immigration as part of documents for status.

      • Anonymous says:

        No longer required and WORC have ignored that aspect. Hopefully the new board will act.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Load of BS, these are people who have left the island!!

    • Anonymous says:

      @1:24pm..I hope they have left the isalnd and if they haven’t they should be deported as they are no longer legally here.

  17. Anonymous says:

    If you had no on-island job while off-island, there is no fee since the fee is equivalent to a work permit on-island position. Plus with covid, who knows how long before you can come back if you had to leave the island and then covid happened.

    This seems to be more targeted to those on-island and working.

    • Anonymous says:

      The law requires payment of the fee whether you are working or not.

    • Anonymous says:

      You still have to pay the fee even if you aren’t working. I’ve been retired 4 years and have to pay the same work permit fee from my old job personally.
      It was originally going to be that retired people didn’t have to pay, but then government changed their minds on that.
      So now all of my pension goes on the work permit fee and health insurance and there is nothing left.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Once the names are known I’m sure PACT will free up some money from somewhere to assist most of these people in paying their PR fees.

  19. Anonymous says:

    I wonder if in return we can fine WORC and the various PR boards for their incompetence in not reviewing applications and delay in granting permits. Someone needs to hold this group accountable.

    • Anonymous says:

      WORC or the CIG are not required to review or grant work permits in any timeframe or at all.

      I don’t understand why some people believe that work permits are just something done administratively. There is no guarantee that you will get a work permit simply because you applied for one, that is why it is called a “grant.”

      • Anonymous says:

        Untrue. Courts as high as the Privy Council have confirmed that any delay of 12 months or more is unlawful. Delays of less than a year may be unlawful. Our Bill of Rights entitles any applicant to be dealt with in a fair, reasonable, lawful, and proportionate manner. We have not consistently met those standards.

    • Anonymous says:

      The Ombudsman says it’s fine. The courts say it is not, but no one listens to them around here.

    • Anonymous says:

      Some of it probably amounts to maladministration (a crime). Just sayin.

    • Anonymous says:

      Was in WORC last week to check on an application. I submitted it by e mail ast month but it still wasn’t recorded on the system, so went in 2 weeks ago and tried to file a written copy as well. Was told I had to leave it in an envelope and would get a receipt once it was opened. Guess what. No receipt after a week. Another guy in there had been waiting 2 weeks and they still hadn’t gotten around to opening his envelope. WTF do they do there all day? They can’t even open applications and log them on the system?

      • Anonymous says:

        They blame Covid. The virus seems to have infected their computers rendering their critical systems ineffectual. Thank heavens the private sector’s systems are immune from that strain. It appears particularly harmful.

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh please, that would make sense… This is Cayman you realize. (Sarcasm for those that don’t get it).

  20. Anonymous says:

    Please note that all those that have had their PR revoked now have a right of Appeal. This means that they can continue working and living on island until their appeal is heard. That then also have the option of applying for judicial review.

    • Anonymous says:

      What would they be appealing?

      Sorry Judge, I haven’t paid my fees in 5 years..can I just pay it now and keep my permanent residency? Good luck with that..

      • Anonymous says:

        Judge. I know I didn’t pay the fees, but it has now been seven years and after the first 2 years with no one demanding them from me and taking no action I figured I now had a reasonable expectation that I could continue. I have since had two children, including one with a Caymanian. I also have a friend who moved employment to the civil service. Even though the law requires them to keep paying the fees they were paying when they were first granted PR their manager told them not to bother. They are also working outside the terms of their grant (in a different occupation) and no one is taking any steps against them. Am I not entitled to the same treatment as them?

    • Anonymous says:

      Perhaps, but at the end of the day even if the revocation is cancelled (which is possible but unlikely) they would have to pay the back fees. Which is the point of the exercise.

      I think whatever your views of how the PR system works, we all agree that if you owe fees they must be paid or it’s right that your PR be revoked after non-payment.

    • Anonymous says:

      And if they haven’t paid fees that are legally due, they will lose.

  21. Anonymous says:

    When I was on that journey, my employer’s HR dept paid and filed the annual 5-figure work permit fees and the equivalent PR fees, as part of comp, as they became due. One year, unbeknownst to me, that company was deciding at a higher mgmt level whether or not to keep the Cayman Islands office open and decided to deliberately leave all permit costs unpaid. They did close the office and we discovered at next employer that I, and other alum, were 6 months behind. We settled it up immediately but there were no letters or notices at the time. I’d suggest that anyone leaving this to their trusted employer, verify that things have been paid promptly on the anniversary dates. I also note this shirking employer, with same upper mgmt, is back in the Cayman Islands with another office, for as long as that lasts. Caveat emptor.

    • Anonymous says:

      @8:12am..Report this incident to WORC so they are aware if this happens again..Of course, it is still on the person with the Permanent Residence to ensure that the fees are paid.

  22. Tilly says:

    PR fees are a breach of the ECHR. Consequences for non payment are more so. Just saying.

  23. Anonymous says:

    41 PR revocations is a start; but, the question still remains, Why so few?
    However, this should be done automatically after minimal fail attempt to recover Individual’s PR Fees.
    There many more cases of multiple written warnings out there (I’m sure) & insurmountable fees outstanding. This is a known problem. Therefore, the expectation is to see all other PR Holders dealt with firmly if they are in contravention of the law.
    41 PR revocations is accepted, though not enough for what is publicly known & reported on deliquent PR Fees.
    Let’s step-it-up WORC/Laura Watler.

    • Anonymous says:

      They should be deported as well as they no longer have legal status here.

    • Anonymous says:

      How do you know there are “many more cases of multiple written warnings out there”? Do you have inside knowledge or are you just making it up?

      • Anonymous says:

        I work in the industry and estimate knowing of around 50 families (unaffected by these revocations) who are in breach of requirements. Some are known to and by the authorities. The failure of the authorities to act is cause for some concern.

  24. Anonymous says:

    Sorry these people no longer meet the ‘fit and proper’ test

  25. Anonymous says:

    I bet the Jamrocks with their sham marriages haven’t been checked.

    Same as it ever was.

  26. Anonymous says:

    You people need these PR holders to do your work. Bring back PPM as they know how to treat business!

    • Anonymous says:

      Sorry these people no longer meet the ‘fit and proper’ test

    • Anonymous says:

      I am an expat who hopes to get PR in the future but your comment is ridiculous. If you don’t pay your bills in life, pay the consequences. No different to CUC cutting you off for not paying your electricity bill for years.

    • Anonymous says:

      Troll alert

    • Anonymous says:

      PR holders are only PR holders so long as they remain in compliance, leave, or level up. There is no issue with WORC doing their job (finally).

      • Anonymous says:

        They have only scratched the surface. Nevertheless, this is a good start.

      • Anonymous says:

        No issue with WORC doing their job? Are you smoking crack? I’ve been waiting since November for a response re: how much I owe for my annual PR fee, as my income situation has changed (retirement). No one at the office could tell me, so it was sent “higher up” to find out. I have heard from no one. I followed up with a e-mail (no response) to show I was making the proper effort, in case I need to prove that I want to pay my fee but have not received a response as to how much it is supposed to be. Still waiting.

        • Anonymous says:

          You have to pay the annual fee until you become Caymanian. Your retirement is irrelevant. The fee is due whether you are working or not.

    • Anonymous says:

      hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

      You crack me up!

    • Anonymous says:

      Bring back, where are you? They are gone and we gave up a QC and a Sir to get rid of them. Great job CIG on the revokes, no cash no splash.

      • Anonymous says:

        Sure, a QC status for a lawyer who hasn’t practiced law for 21 years and a knighthood for a man that spent our country into bankruptcy and locked us down for a few months..YEah we did the wrong thing..not!

    • Anonymous says:

      Obvious troll is obvious.

  27. Anonymous says:

    It’s a good start!

    Audit every PR file and look for all requirements that are unmet.

    PR is indeed a privilege and if it’s being taken for granted, take it away!

    • Anonymous says:

      Also need an audit to find out how many of us PR holders with questions send e-mail after e-mail and leave voice message after voice message — and never hear a thing. If you need help, hire an immigration attorney. Only way I’ve ever been able to get a response was to have the attorney write the e-mail or make the call. WORC doesn’t ignore them. If you can’t afford an attorney, well, then, good luck.

      • Anonymous says:

        @10:19pm..What questions could you have that would allow you not to pay your fees?..sounds like an worthless “privileged” excuse, to me. If you can afford to pay an attorney but can’t pay your fees on time that says something about you not WORC. Pay your fees on time and you won’t need an attorney.

      • Anonymous says:

        The Ombudsman should explain why she takes no issue or has otherwise refused to take any action.

    • Anonymous says:

      Be careful about what you wish for. There is some abuse of the system, which should be remediated. However, you may end up throwing out the “baby with the bathe water”

    • Anonymous says:

      Might also be helpful to see how many of those PR grants are even still here! How would WORC know if they had left? They dont reply to correspondence ? Oh, wait….

    • Level playing field says:

      Don’t forget Michael Ryan. He still owes the government $6 million.

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh, don’t worry Bobo. Not EVER forgetting him, or the official enablers.

      • Anonymous says:

        Except of course he doesn’t. His company did, but it went into liquidation, owing a lot more than just that. But Michael gets to set up some more development companies and just repeat the process, including duty concessions and waivers on planning. Ho hum.

        • Anonymous says:

          And the attorney general and the DCI and the various other agencies responsible, take no issue.

        • Chris Johnson says:

          Had the CIG bothered to investigate they would have ascertained that the company was insolvent. A religious foundation lost $200 million and lots of Caymanians also lost money. Blame the government of the day and we all know the realtor/CIG politician involved who finished up with a couple of condos.
          How soon all of this becomes forgotten.

  28. Anonymous says:

    Lip service or real action? We’ll see.. How about revoking PR, Status or whatever acquired form of rights of residence or citizenship for any criminal convictions – felonies or otherwise?

  29. Anonymous says:

    I am wondering if some of these people already applied and got Caymanian Status. Could be the reason why they ignored the warning. MMMMM.

    • Anonymous says:

      Or they left the islands all together…..

    • Anonymous says:

      One of the things the board checks before granting status is that fees are not delinquent so this is unlikely. Not saying it’s impossible because we all know how things work here sometimes. But this wouldn’t have happened in significant numbers.

      • Anonymous says:

        It happening once is significant. It is indicative of potential corruption.

        • Anonymous says:

          Yes, I agree but it’s usually due to inattention and incompetence rather than corruption. Which isn’t to say there isn’t some corruption in immigration (as there is everywhere in the public and private sector). I suspect it’s less of an issue now than it was historically.

  30. Anonymous says:

    “Permanent resident status should be respected and seen as a privilege and not a right. When holders of PR certificates do not abide by the law, the certificate can be taken away. Making the required payment annually is the right thing to do to avoid revocation,”

    This is the bottom line people. If you have been lucky to acquire such a privilege then pay up or face the bottom line consequence – loss of your PR and/or being told to leave this country.

    • Anonymous says:

      Imagine believing some random 3rd world moron cares about “privileges” when they can find some status charity recipient or some baby mamma with status and boom, come one, come all. Cayman is open for business.

      In fairness though, the expats in their Fidel’s and Rugby Club rarefied mutual pat on the back masters of the universe (never mind the fact it’s a very small, below value and under delivering universe but don’t let that stop them believing it) think that they are just as entitled.

      Remember, WE SURVIVED IVAN!!!! I can’t wait for the day they stop milking that cow. Despite the fact most of them fled the bloody island in fear at the time.

    • Anonymous says:

      So when they have done all that, when will they be able to run for office? or is that the preserve of the wealthy coloured or connected?

      Imagine being Caymanian and blocking additional blood into the political arena because “Caymanians first” whilst getting bent over by the Ebanks, the Kirks and the rest of the lodge handshake club and then John John turns up!!!.

      There’s a reason we all buy borderline rotten fruit and it isn’t shipping cost, it’s because the Cayman Superclass get away with robbing us all blind and price fixing.

      Let this sink in, we can get a strawberry from central America to east Sussex with a week to spare if not more. You buy a strawberry here and it’s off within the week if not already.

      That’s what Caymanians do for other Caymanians.

    • BWindsor says:

      You just come from Fidels?

  31. Anonymous says:

    Big deal, they will just keep working and CIG will do nothing, the land of non enforcement.

  32. Anonymous says:

    How many thousands of PR holders? And as John John says, non payment has been an issue for years. So the total outcome is just 41 ? Be really interesting if they told us how many people were behind in their payments or annual declarations, rather than just the number they have disqualified. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was even limited to people who have actually left!

    • Anonymous says:

      Does it matter? This is action in the right direction.

      If they are off island means they have no privilege to come back as a resident.

      I hope that we see consistency now for all on or off!

      • Anonymous says:

        We never planned on coming back, joke is on you.

      • Anonymous says:

        In the right direction at the pace of a slug on tranquillizers. How difficult can it be to check the list of PR holders and see which ones a) have unpaid fees b) have not completed an annual declaration c) on immigration records are shown as having left and not returned d) have acquired a criminal record e)have been granted status? Come on – its a few thousand names, and WORC has access to all those records. Does it matter – yes it does. The principle is right, but its a drop in the bucket – almost more maddening for WORC to admit that this is what they should have been doing all along, then make a half hearted attempt. Its a sad attempt at PR management, like one of RCIPS “clamp down” campaigns. A token effort to do the job, trumpeted as if its a major achievement.

        • Anonymous says:

          It’s a good start..

        • Anonymous says:

          I think you’re looking at things the wrong way. Yes, people need to abide by the law and make their payments. Of course. But trying to kick out PR holders who have been here for a decade or more and have (for the most part) demonstrated substantial contribution to soviety isn’t really where immigration should focus their time.

          The rampant abuse of the work permit system by employers including the use of temp permits for non-seasonal jobs is a far bigger problem than chasing PR fees.

          PR holders are actually treated worse than temp work permit holders. If I, as a 12 year resident PR holder get promoted in my job I have to wait six months to a year for WORC to look at the application (including to see if any Caymanians were disadvantaged by that which is fair enough).

          Some snot nosed kid who has been here three months can job-hop and get a new permit in 3 days if the employer pays an “express fee”. On what planet does that make any sense???

    • Anonymous says:

      Article said they sent 53 letters. 41 remained unpaid and then got revoked.

      • Anonymous says:

        According to ESO 5866 PR holders as of last fall. So despite all the talk about non payment being a longstanding and major problem, WORC sent letters to less than 1% of PR holders. So either PR holders not paying is not the common issue that WORC and John John thinks it is, or WORC is not really addressing the issue. I guess “half of 1 percent of PR permits revoked” doesnt make as good a headline for CIG.

        • Anonymous says:

          Of course it’s not that common of a problem. It was historically. Almost all of these people went through 8-9 years of the work permit system and have had to demonstrate that they are financially capable of being here and supporting themselves. Of course people have left an immigration has lost track of it. Some people also might have lost their jobs and thus have trouble making the payments. But I would be very very surprised if it’s more than 100 people max out of the 5,800.

        • Anonymous says:

          The total number of PR holders includes thousands of dependents, many of whom are being wrongly allowed to remain in Cayman long after the person they have been linked to has ceased residence.

    • Anonymous says:

      Does John John actually know what PR is? I’m just not sure I can take a guy seriously when with one hand he says – “I was teased because they said my dad was crazy” – by the way, a disgusting and awful thing with deal with, but with the other hand “Gaypril, full moon women, “I will make bodden town worse”.

      I mean, come on? is this neverland? where the hell is Alice?

  33. Anon says:

    About time this was done. Now the problem will be to find them & then deport them

  34. Anonymous says:

    May I ask, how much are these fees?

    • Anonymous says:

      The equivalent of a work permit fee pre PR, so could range from 1000 to maybe 20,000 dollars

    • Cheese Face says:

      Same as Work Permit

    • Anonymous says:

      Equivalent to last approved work permit fee.

    • Anonymous says:

      Same as your last work permit fee. They can be very high in the white collar occupations – over $13K for an accountant, up to $32K for a partner in a law firm. One reason government is so reluctant to process status applications, in just the same way they are reluctant to cut down on work permits. $$$ baby. For all those thinking this is government cracking down to limit those eligible to be Caymanian, think again. If it were that, there would be a lot ore revocations. This is about setting an example so they can still milk the PR holders still here by revoking a handful of PR grants for people who are either not on island or blue collar with fees in the $ hundreds. Win win. Drive in some more bucks, tell native Caymanians they are reducing the PR pool.

    • Gern Blenston says:

      The annual fees i believe are the price of the individuals current work permit.

    • Anonymous says:

      They are based on the occupation of the PR holder.

    • Anonymous says:

      It varies (a lot) depending on your job.

    • Anonymous says:

      One hundred and plenty thousand dollars.

  35. Anonymous says:

    Well done! It’s about bloody time that some action was taken on these people. I’m sure the phones will be ringing off the hook now looking for political favours. Glad to see that Dear Chris is in support of it.

    • Anonymous says:

      Dear Chris should also pursue businesses that are refusing to pay staff pensions, despite many court appearances and no still consequences.

  36. Anonymous says:

    Lip service PR stunt. How many of those 41 are on island or have been in the last 3-5 years?

  37. Anonymous says:

    The names and nationalities of the 41 should be made public as well.

    • Anonymous says:

      I’m sure it would be a real eye opener to know who some if these are!

      Rumour has it that there’s chaos in some high ranking firms right now!

      • Anonymous says:

        I am willing to bet not a single one of the 41 works for government. Civil servants are particularly immune from the rules around here.

      • Anonymous says:

        If that’s the case, and the person’s are professionally qualified, it would be interesting if their body of professional affiliation maintains their practicing status as well or revokes it due to dishonesty/lack of integrity/bringing the profession into disrepute etc.

      • Anonymous says:

        Zero percent chance that any of these people work for a “high ranking firm” all of those firms pay these fees for their employees every year.

        Nice try though.

    • Anonymous says:

      Name and shame and then give 72 hours to leave the country or face incarceration. They have made a complete mockery of the country, our Laws and the citizens. TIME FOR THESE 41 SORRY ASSES TO LEAVE AND TO NEVER, EVER SET FOOT ON THESE SHORES AGAIN.

      • Anonymous says:

        Chill. So much hot air is just not healthy. Stay well. And there is no need to be rude.

      • Justice for all says:

        8.04pm What about all the Caymanian employers that took pension contributions from expat employees and kept it for themselves?. What doyou call them?.

        • Anonymous says:

          Thieves. I have reported them to the police. The police refuse to act. They are called assholes.

        • Anonymous says:

          Call them sorry asses as well who should face the FULL wrath of the Law and if necessary- serve time.

      • Say it like it is. says:

        8.04pm It’s the fault of your own that these fees have not been collected, you need accountability in Govt and the Civil Service, but then they can never be dismissed, let alone deported.How about naming and shaming those responsible for collecting the PR fees.

  38. Anonymous says:

    Finally. Some enforcement of laws. This is LONG overdue. They have been working illegally. There are many more. Do not stop. Now make sure they leave before they end up yelling at passers by on the steps of the Government Administration Building!

    • Big Bobo In West Bay says:

      6:26, Now if they would just go after all the businesses that have refused for many years to pay staff pensions.

      So many legal cases but ZERO enforcement.

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