73-year-old local man, third COVID-19 death

| 14/11/2021 | 161 Comments
Cayman News Service
Premier Wayne Panton announces death of COVID-positive patient

(CNS): The first person to die with COVID-19 so far this year is a 73-year-old man who was unvaccinated against the virus but had a number of underlying health conditions. He died at the hospital late on Saturday night becoming only the third person in this country who had tested positive for the virus to pass away.

In a video message of condolence, Premier Wayne Panton said the death would be counted in the pandemic-related statistics due to his positive status. However, he noted that the patient had pre-existing health conditions with recurring hospital admissions over the past year and had been admitted on 11 November with health issues unrelated to COVID-19.

“Regardless of the circumstances, this is a day that none of us wished to become a reality, and truthfully there is nothing that can sufficiently prepare a family for the death of a loved one,” Panton said in a video message about the death. “On behalf of my wife, Jane, my family as well as the government and people of the Cayman Islands, I wish to offer my sincere condolences to the family and friends of this beloved member of our community who has left us.”

Panton added that this community places the highest value on life.

“We are all interconnected and our lives intersect in countless ways. No doubt, this individual leaves behind family members and loved ones who are deeply impacted by this loss. Because we value each life and each individual, now is not the time to reduce his life to a mere statistic,” he said.

“Let us set aside the arguments, debates and division and focus instead on displaying our empathy, care and kindness to those who are grieving right now. I ask that in a display of humanity and compassion, we respect the privacy of the bereaved family as they mourn.”

He told the man’s family that they were not suffering their loss alone, and while there are no words that can truly ease the pain, the Cayman Islands was a closely connected community and they would receive support from that community.

“This is a poignant reminder for all of us,” he said. “Let us commit ourselves to doing everything we can to protect those who are vulnerable. Know your COVID status. Adhere to the regulations and practice the well-known COVID safety measures. Even though our numbers of hospitalisations and serious illness have remained low throughout the pandemic, the loss of even one life is too great.”

Panton acknowledged the hard work and care of the medical team who are looking after every patient in the hospital.

“There is no doubt the past few hours have been tough for them as well,” the premier said. “This is indeed a difficult moment for us all, but let us remember, above all, that amongst us there is a family in pain.”

The first death to occur in Cayman was also the first recorded case of the virus here. An Italian cruise ship passenger who had suffered a number of heart attacks while on board the ship was brought to Cayman and taken to Health City, where he subsequently died.

A number of HCCI staff were infected by this patient, and shortly after his death the island closed the borders and went into lockdown. The second patient who died with COVID was a Jamaican woman who was resident in the Cayman Islands and suffering from cancer. She had been infected in Jamaica and was hospitalised during quarantine. She died almost exactly one year ago at the hospital in George Town.

CNS Analysis: Clarity is needed in reporting COVID deaths

See the premier’s full video message below:


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  1. KY stardom :) says:

    @ 3:45 – There are also people who CHOOSE not get it when they can get it. They are perfectly healthy and refuse Pfizer. Still … you should respect their decision. I already had covid and I don’t want the vaccine. It is just my personal informed decision. I kill no one or make anyone worse by my decision. I am still keeping my distance, wearing my mask, and playing by the rules. Just don’t tell me what I must do with my own body. If refusing me from the hospital makes you feel good, so be it! But I must call my own shots – not you, not the government! You can piss and rave and discriminate against me all you want. It is what it is.

    • Anonymous says:

      I believe I had it twice. The second time I had milder symptoms. But I see where we are getting more vaccine options by the end of this year. So if you don’t liked or trust pfizer, an mrna vaccine, you can go for a more traditional type vaccine. I recommend sinopharm. Your not hearing reports of adverse reactions from sinopharm like you do pfizer, moderna, JJ, and astra zen.

    • Anonymous says:

      How do you know you did not infect someone when you were walking around asymptomatic yet infectious with Covid-19? For anyone serious about doing all they can to protect themselves, their family, and the wider community getting vaccinated is “playing by the rules”; the rules of social responsibility. Whether you like it or not, you are living off the protection granted to you by all those who have taken the vaccine. It’s not all about you, Jack.

  2. No plan 4 Cayman says:

    Instead of you blaming the unvaccinated Mr Panton you should preventing this from happening to Cayman .You need to tell those coming from countries with huge surges and outbreaks of Covid 19 and to ensure they are tested on arrival and quarantine In Cayman for a minimum of 7 days . Lifting restrictions on vaccinated persons who can spread this virus coming from these countries is extremely foolish and will continue to infect others and continue the community spread.

  3. Beaumont Zodecloun says:

    Nice try, CNS. For what it’s worth, I understand your point precisely. Your article has also served to highlight the profound vitriol and extreme polticisation of both “sides”. Gee, how wonderful would it be to have an actual discussion sometime, where opinions were stated as such and respected.

    Apparently, we cannot just get along, and there appears to be no hope of that in the future.

    Me and mine are vaccinated. We intend to continue to live our lives to the fullest, and avoid crowds. It gets easier with age.

  4. Anonymous says:

    We need two vaccines in cayman. One to stop stupidity, then the Pfizer once, once that stupidity one takes hold and makes them see sense. Some of the comments on here are scary, vaccines save you.

  5. Anonymous says:

    He died with COVID and not of COVID. If someone dies in a car crash but tested positive is that counted as a COVID death?

    • Anonymous says:

      Probably. It’s well known that most countries, including the uk which cayman likely copy, report Covid related deaths as anyone who has dies within 28 days of having a positive Covid death. Many countries don’t report like this to reduce the Covid death statistics, it’s why the uk for example has a higher death figure than many other countries.

      CNS: It depends if you’re looking at UKHSA or ONS stats. I laid out the difference here.

      • Anonymous says:

        Thanks CNS

      • Anonymous says:

        But cns, the major Uk outlets only report one daily death count on sky news, bbc etc. It’s usually Uk HSA I think.

      • Numbaboy says:

        The 28 day rule worked for a large population such as the UK 2020 as the deaths with covid that were recorded were surprisingly close to offsetting the deaths from covid that were not in the system as reflected in the increases in overall death rates. But now with better, wider testing and for a small population group like Cayman, the methodology is less accurate and probably now outdated.

    • Anonymous says:

      Stupid comparison.

      COVID would not accelerate your death via a car crash.

      If you have underlying conditions that render your body vulnerable then COVID could accelerate your passing.

      • Anonymous says:

        Covid could affect your survival in a car crash.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hang on, being Covid-19 positive may well accelerate death after a serious motor vehicle accident, but I get your point. 9.25: When the first obese unvaccinated patient dies of Covid-19 will you be telling us he (she) died of obesity? What about being unvaccinated as the cause of death?

    • Anonymous says:

      if a man with terminal cancer dies in a car accident, he died of the accident not from the cancer.

      If a man is sick then gets COVID, that then kills him, COVID killed him.

      Nearly everyone has something that is considered an underlying medical issue

  6. Anonymous says:

    Maybe is time to get Caymanians vaccinated as well, it seems they aren’t covid proof after all.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Have you all noticed how the story is told very differently in the other island news outlet? That other outlet is looking to please the powers that be 😂

    • Anonymous says:

      I don’t think that fair. The fact is the person had serious underlying health conditions, was unvaccinated and also tested positive for Covid, but the primary reason for hospitalisation was not Covid. That’s all I see CNS and the compass reporting. These are the facts.

    • Anonymous says:

      Emoji, really

    • Anonymous says:

      You have spotted “the other news outlet” appears to be Pact/UDP’s propaganda arm.
      There’s a special friendship or family tie methinks.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Although not a fan of Premier, he did seem to show sincere compassion and respect.

    I though that, in this instance, the Premier looked like a statesman and dignified.

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree. I think his statement was spot on – sympathetic but highlighting the importance of vaccination and also that there were other Jon covid related factors at play.

    • Anonymous says:

      Of all the PACT members, I believe Kenneth has the best “showing” of sincere compassion and respect. If you didn’t know him you would swear that he is intelligent as well. Bravo to the PR machine behind each of the groups and individual politicians.

  9. Anonymous says:

    My condolences go to this man’s family.

    It is unfortunate that the Premier could not simply offer his condolences without trying to spin that sad event into some kind of exoneration. Politics has gotten into everything these days.

    • Anonymous says:

      Any doubt that the Cayman Compost is biased was revealed. The headline writers made sure to echo the message. It’s almost as if these are scripted talking points

      • Anonymous says:

        Suggest you read bbc, sky news, the times or any other respected news source then. Disagree with them as well? Grow up – they all disagree with you

        • Anonymous says:

          Lol – You should just post with the handle “Grow Up” – you seem to use it every post.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Covid Denial has many forms

    Version 1 – Covid does not exist so we should not do anything that interferes with profits
    Version 2 – Covid exists but it is just the flu or no worse than the flu so we should not do anything that interferes with profits
    Version 3 – Covid exists but it only affects ‘others’ and it is their fault if it does so we should not do anything that interferes with profits
    Version 4 – Covid exists but we are prepared and have everything under control so we are not going to do anything that might interfere with profits
    Version 5…..
    Version 6….. etc etc etc

    • Anonymous says:

      The biggest problem is vaccine denial, not your definitions of covid denial. This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

      • Robert Mugabe IV says:

        You’re listening to CNN/FOX too much.
        Absolute nonsense to call this the pandemic of the unvaxxed.
        Come back to us when the vaxxed don’t get sick or die with/from Covid. Then you can go with the Pandemic of the unvaxxed.
        Otherwise do us all a favour and stay quite.

        • Anon says:

          You poor person. So deluded

        • Anonymoism says:

          Do us a favor and get vaccinated

        • Anonymous says:

          I’ve agree with many of your previous opinions. This one I disagree with – just my own opinion.

          Just so you know my opinion:

          I believe it certainly now IS a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

          Will vaccinated (booster – another topic), folks get Covid still – yup, but much less % than unvaccinated.

          And… IF vaccinated folks have breakthrough Covid, will they be hospitalized – yup, a few. PROFOUNDLY less than unvaccinated.

          So, how many tools you want on your bench?

        • Anonymous says:

          Original poster here. Never watched cnn and fox in my life

        • Anonymous says:

          You are a sad, sad case. I hope you aren’t propagating your foolishness on any children.

    • Anonymous says:

      Exactly. But why? It’s not always profit motivated. In addition to avarice, other reasons seem to be selfishness, tribalism or ignorance. This hasn’t been humanity’s finest hour. Harari is right to be cynical; the future doesn’t look good.

      • Anonymous says:

        So you didn’t take the vaccine for yourself? Isn’t it strange that a vaccine would be viewed as something unworthy of taking for yourself.

        • Anonymous says:

          Isn’t it strange that in reading my post you would infer I didn’t get the vaccine. I am fully vaccinated and boostered. You obviously have some sort of bias that is clouding your ability to accurately comprehend written language.

          • Anonymous says:

            You aren’t

            • Anonymous says:

              I can give you the months and locations – first on in January at the hospital; second one in Feb. at the airport: booster at Lions Centre last month. Now, do you want to talk about your obvious bias that makes you assume incorrectly about a person’s vaccination status?

    • Anonymous says:

      You want some Covid truths? It’s a horrible disease, people will die from and with it, it’s a worldwide pandemic, it’s not diminishing and will be with us for years if not decades. Get vaccinated, wear a mask, keep good hygiene, look after yourself your family and the community. This version is called learning to deal with Covid.

      • Anonymous says:

        If you had added ‘insist that government implements policies that put people before profit’ I would completely agree with you.

    • Anonymous says:

      Spot on!

    • Anonymousn says:

      7 8 9 10… go to school you idiot

  11. Stat says:

    Total deaths of vaccinated from covid in this wave remains zero.

    • Anonymous says:

      Totally deaths from the unvaccinated still remains at 0 as he did not die from Covid. Nor did the other 2.

  12. Anonymous says:

    Bottom line, still zero deaths in the Cayman Islands resulting from Covid-19.

    • Anonymous says:

      Right – nobody anywhere has died from Covid. They all died because their hearts stopped.

    • Anonymous says:

      His death certificate, stating the cause of death, will be signed by a HSA doctor without input from politicians, CNS posters or Facebook groups. You’re welcome to keep your own Cayman scorecard in your kitchen and update anyone who is willing to listen, but don’t expect the CDC to give you a call anytime soon. Although they might send you an Instagram message that you can share with friends and family.

  13. Anonymous says:

    I am very sorry that some family is having to deal with such a loss and my condolences go out to them.

    It is unfortunate that the Premier’s carefully worded non-specific statement does not clarify whether Covid have any role in this person’s death at this time. If it did not then a non-political person should state such a conclusion, not a politician with a vested interest in painting a particular picture.

    • Anonymous says:

      No one will ever know how big an impact Covid was in this death. We can only look at the facts… in cayman 87 per cent of hospitalized are unvaccinated and the vast majority of community spread is unvaccinated, and worldwide we know the unvaccinated die much more than the vaccinated, all we can do is get vaccinated as the best attempt to protect ourselves.

  14. Orrie Merren says:

    My sincerest condolences go out to the deceased’s family, friends and loved ones. My family and I are praying for you all in this difficult time for strength and comfort.

    God bless,
    Orrie 🙏🏻

  15. Anonymous says:

    Finally some truth from Panton on how the data has been collected throughout this whole Pandemic.
    Doctors, nurses, and people who have done their homework have been trying to inform everyone throughout this whole saga, only to get push back, censored and shut down at every turn. We tried and here we have the Premier stating himself what we have been saying for months. Thank you Panton. Knowingly or not you have exposed the ridiculous data collection method which has had a strangle hold on people and made them unnecessarily frightened. Shame on all involved. Time for everyone to open their eyes, come together and see what a sham this whole things has been. “Project Fear” is finally being revealed for what it is.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Premier trying to spin the facts. He’s dead and maybe would have lived longer if he didn’t have Covid. RIP sir. Condolences to teh family.

  17. Anonymous says:

    If someone is shot in the head and happens to test positive for Covid, it will be ruled as a Covid death.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes

    • Anonymous says:

      Correct. It would. That is how Covid deaths are measured,

    • Anonymous says:

      Correct. Died with covid

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s a global conspiracy! Why are the Sheeple so stupid they can’t see that!

      • Anonymous says:

        Idiot. Conspiracy theories are great in theory. After that, they’re easily picked apart.

        You seriously think there’s an organized group of people trying to control the planet through the weaponization of a virus?

        Meanwhile in Cayman, people don’t know how to use an indicator on a vehicle.

        GTFOH. Sheeple? At least come up with a new, preferably wittier term.

  18. Anonymous says:

    This gentleman might have been alive if he didn’t contract COVID. Who is to be blamed for his death? PACT. We were all living safe and protected without COVID in the community until PACT messed it up. This gentleman had been to hospital a few times in the last year and would always return home. But not this time. What else is PACT waiting for to start taking some kind of action, Some kind of restrictions?

    As the protection from the jabs wane after 6 months, are they making sure the visitors who will not do quarantine have had their last jab within the last 6 months?

    Rest In Peace Genteleman.

    • Anonymous says:

      Very uneducated comment

    • Anonymous says:

      Do not feed the PPM troll

    • Anonymous says:

      The number of visitors with Covid is minimal – it is the irresponsible actions of those in the community gathering closely together without masks. It is our responsibility to protect the vulnerable by wearing masks, social distancing etc. The vulnerable need to protect themselves by insisting others wear masks and keep their distance.

  19. Anonymous says:

    So not a death resulting from covid then. Pretty straightforward really.

  20. Anonymous says:

    RiP. He may have been unvaccinated due to medical reasons. When was he diagnosed as COVID positive? Did he get is from someone in his household?

  21. Anonymous says:

    Premier Alden you need to come and rescue us from these people as they do not know how to handle disaster’s like you.

  22. Anonymous says:

    It is very important to stick to the facts.
    Here are the facts.
    The person was very ill with a serious condition.
    The person had a positive COVID test.
    COVID tests are not 100% accurate.

    These are the facts. Do not draw conclusions outside of the facts.

    • Anonymous says:

      Very true. Big difference between dying of Covid and dying with Covid. Also they were unvaccinated.

    • Anonymous says:

      How about we just say:

      Condolences to family and friends. Rip to this gentleman.

    • Hubert says:

      The fact is the man was unvaccinated. Simple as that.

      Stop trying to play down the fact that we have a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

      Regret to say more deaths to come of the unvaccinated.

      • Anonymous says:

        Like children and people that can’t take the vaccine, what a horrible cold hearted person you are. You know that the majority of Doctors treat patients based on their medical status. Even a murderer brought in with gunshot wounds would still be treated.

      • Anonymous says:

        What lack of class. A person lost there life and, instead of showing sympathy and sensitivity, you make this a vaccination versus UN vaccination agenda issue.

        The man, although unvaccinated, had other health issues and, in addition, as positive for COVID. This death was not directly attributable to COVID, but, since he was COVID positive, it had to technically be recorded as a COVID death.

        At a time like this, when someone loses their life, please let’s have enough respect to keep COVID issue (e.g. vaccinated vs. vaccinated) out of it.

        Be respectful to the family of the person, who lost his life, that is now grieving.

      • Anonymous says:

        There are several people who cannot take the vaccine, even if they want to, because of health issues. Not every unvaccinated person isn’t vaccinated because of reluctancy.

  23. Anonymous says:

    Important to remember he was unvaccinated? Not important at all, a life has passed and no doubt his family will celebrate his life and passing. Just because he was not vaccinated does not make him a lesser human being.

    • Anonymous says:

      Nonsense. If you are vaccinated even with underlying conditions your chances of beating COVID are much high. This is a fact.

      • Anonymous says:

        Again you morons are assuming he chose not to be vaccinated. His underlying conditions may have prevented him from being vaccinated, you don’t know and neither do I so it his vaccination status is not relevant.

      • Anonymous says:

        Why do people dislike this? It’s a proven fact.

      • Anonymous says:

        You are conflating things. Your second sentence is absolutely correct, but that doesn’t make what you were responding to “nonsense.” I actually feel sorry for those who have made decisions based on the misinformation spread by the media, on social media and in some cases, in churches. Death from Ignorance is tragic and doesn’t make the victim any less human.

    • Anonymous says:

      Kinda does

  24. Anonymous says:

    This person’s death should not be recorded as a COVID death. It’s misleading and upsetting the community.

    My condolences to the family. May God embrace you and comfort you during this hurting time. 🙏

    • Anonymous says:

      The fact remains, yes he had other health issues, however he also tested positive for COVID-19 and wasn’t vaccinated. He may not have died from those other health related illnesses at this particular time (maybe not for a while) if he wasn’t also battling Covid-19. We’ll never really know for sure, because we don’t have all of the medical facts. So let’s not speculate.

      From posts seen by his daughter and family members, Mr. Mark was a lovely man who was deeply loved, and loved Cayman. For this, we mourn his passing with his family and pray they will be comforted during this time.

      No matter your view on getting the vaccine or not we have an individual responsibility in the world we live in today, to stop the spread by practicing healthy hygiene, wearing masks, maintaining physical distance where necessary.
      It would also go a long way, to be kind to one another, not stir fear mongering tactics on either side and incorporate healthy lifestyles.

      • Anonymous says:

        I have known the gentleman for over 20 years. He had at least FOUR of the contraindications for vaccination. He stayed home, as I and several others were bringing his food. Leave his family to mourn and take your political arguments somewhere else!

    • Anonymous says:

      Anyone who does within 28 days of having a positive Covid 19 test is classed as a Covid death same as the uk. Agree it means places like cayman and countries like the uk end up with higher Covid death rates than countries that choose other measurement techniques, but you can’t pick and choose each case. It’s based on an agreed measurement policy.

  25. Anonymous says:

    I am very saddened by this news. I am also saddened by the blatant attempt to spin the narrative around this family’s grief, although I suppose that it is understandable in terms of politics.

  26. Anonymous says:

    Important to remember here that he was unvaccinated and also died with Covid, not of Covid. As with the uk we will measure Covid deaths as those who die with Covid within 28 days of a positive test. Very sad but he had underlying serious health conditions and was unvaccinated. As panton is quoted as saying he didn’t die of Covid.

    • Anonymous says:

      Also important to remember he MAY NOT have died of he didn’t have COVID.

    • Anonymous says:

      Beginning now are the first local cautionary reminders that COVID does play a role in accelerating untimely death in people. Especially at risk are those that still choose to remain unvaccinated, and those with diminished immune capacity due to age and/or other health battles. Please don’t let this be yourself or someone you love.

    • Anonymous says:

      Covid denier November 2021 version.

      • Anonymous says:

        No one has posted a comment here denying Covid. Not sure how your post makes any sense?

        • Anonymous says:

          Quit being obtuse. There are all kinds of Covid denial, and plenty of it is being spun on this thread.

    • Anonymous says:

      Although I do agree with what you say, semantics seem to be your pet peeve. We’re in the Caribbean you know and if you didn’t already realise most people don’t speak the Queen’s English around here. However thanks for the English lesson, but please do keep your grammar hang ups in your own closet.

    • Anonymous says:

      Important to remember, all who got the jabs 6 months ago for all practical reasons considered to be unvaccinated… or 20% protected if you wish
      Condolences to the deceased man family. Too bad nobody, including Premier, is looking into why so many sick people in Cayman.

      • Anonymous says:

        This is fake news. All respected news sources and reputable studies say worse case scenario is 50 per cent protection from 2 Pfizer after 6 months from over 90 per cent originally. The booster returns you back to around 99 per cent. We have booster supplies on island now so very soon the vaccinated will be almost 100 per cent protected against hospital after their booster, the unvaccinated zero per cent.

    • Anonymous says:

      Did it occur to you that perhaps his underlying conditions prevented him from being unvaccinated? I am so sick of you people that treat the unvaccinated as some sort of inferior being. I am also sick of of the premier having to make sure he states not vaccinated and not dying of covid. Stop politicising this, a man has died and may he rest in peace, it is not relevant what his status was. Let the family grieve and left in peace without fake condolences from a politician.

      • Anonymous says:

        The people want this info.

      • Anonymous says:

        But it’s important the unvaccinated stay home as they ar the ones that will cause more spread and end up in hospital. Their stupid choices cause issues for the health service.

        • Anonymous says:

          To you it may appear to be a stupid choice, but never-the-less a choice, so why don’t you just shut up and respect it. What do you have to fear from the unvaccinated?

          • Anonymous says:

            They spread it more and fill the hospital beds that could be used for regular patients who are vaccinated with other diseases or accidents and emergencies. They also kept the borders shut for a year

            • Anonymous says:

              Then you should care equally about people who are obese, smoke, drink etc because all these people take up hospital beds too. How convenient to blame the unvaccinated for a border closure, because they didn’t make that decision, the government did.

              • Anonymous says:

                Those things are not contagious and do not result in hospitals being overrun.

                • Anonymous says:

                  The subject was not about contagious jackass. Our hospitals are not overrun either. The govt says 80% vax is enough for heard immunity, so what are you afraid of?

                  • carla says:

                    The hospitals will be overrun very soon. Just look at the numbers. Based on just linear math, this will happen in 10-14 days. 80% was enough for herd immunity of earlier variants, but not delta. It’s just so much more contagious. Measles (one of the most contagious diseases with R= 12-18) requires 95% vaccination rate to provide immunity. That’s impossible with Covid unless we start vaccinating infants.

          • Anonymous says:

            Uncontrolled spread of covid and overwhelming the healthcare system

            • Anonymous says:

              Except that it isn’t. Do you not believe in ‘herd immunity’ anymore?

              • Anonymous says:

                Did you not get the memo? No reputable medical professional believes herd immunity will happen with Covid. It is now believed to be endemic – it will always be around. Evolution will likely protect future generations from it, but you will be long dead by then.

                • Anonymous says:

                  Hook line and sinker! Not so long ago this was an argument for getting vaccinated. I questioned herd immunity from the start since the ‘vaccine’ does not offer immunity only prevention of serious illness. But my point is our healthcare and many throughout the world are not overwhelmed so I do not see the point of arguing for it.

                  • Anonymous says:

                    You are a disgrace to these islands. Please get vaccinated or stay home, to protect others.

              • Anonymous says:

                You just don’t get it. Please try to educate yourself. Herd immunity has pretty much been ruled out by all the top scientists in he major economies that have been fighting covid for nearly 2 years. It is not going to happen.

          • Anonymous says:

            higher insurance rates……

          • Anonymous says:

            A lot. If you don’t know, you are purposely remaining ignorant.

            • Anonymous says:

              If one is going to enter a debate by stating ‘a lot’ without further defining or substantiating, then I am afraid the ignorance is on you.

              • Anonymous says:

                It has all been said before many, many times on this site. I don’t need to debate idiots with facts they have no intention of accepting. Seriously – if you don’t understand how the unvaccinated are impacting others, ask yourself why Austria just locked down millions of unvaccinated people. Are you really that dense that you need it spelled out every time? Or do you just want a chance to trot out the same old messages you learned while doing “research” on social media sites or on YouTube?

                • Anonymous says:

                  Comment of the month

                • Anonymous says:

                  Then maybe ask yourself why highly vaccinated states like Vermont are seeing an increase is hospitalizations. Ask yourself what has Austria got to do with anything. Should the world follow them? I Ask yourself why it is that there is so much hesitancy with this vaccine over others like measles or chickenpox. Do you think the world has suddenly produced millions of ‘idiots’? The vaccine data speaks for itself in preventing death, so why is there resistance, perhaps you are ‘purposely remaining ignorant’. I am vaccinated, but absolutely support those that have made the decision not to, I will not brand them ‘idiots’ just because they made this decision.

              • Anonymousn says:

                If one is going to enter a debate claiming he unvaccinated to not cause the problems, then that is more ignorant

                • Anonymous says:

                  Except that argument has not been introduced. If one is going to enter an argument with assumed claims then perhaps that is the ultimate ignorance.

    • Anonymous says:

      I’m sorry for the family’s loss, but encouraged by the truth being told by Premier Panton.

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