Two vaccinated travellers to date positive for COVID-19

| 30/04/2021 | 87 Comments

(CNS): According to information supplied by Public Health, up to 22 April, 211 travellers have been both vaccinated and provided a negative test on arrival, which enabled them to take advantage of the reduced ten-day quarantine or isolation option since it was introduced. But officials said two travellers so far have tested positive, albeit weakly, for the virus after receiving their vaccination courses abroad and not in the Cayman Islands. In each case the individuals were required to quarantine for the full 14-day period.

Meanwhile, one more traveller tested positive for the virus among the results released Friday and is now isolation. There are now just fifteen active cases of the virus among the more than 600 people in quarantine, only one of whom has symptoms. This is one of the lowest numbers of current cases since Cayman began its phased border reopening.

The vaccination programme remains stalled, however, with 55% of the population having had a first shot. Just 215 people have been vaccinated since the last figures were released on Tuesday following the closure of the clinic Wednesday.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    And in another story outlining the consequences of lax quarantine requirements…

    From the Guardian

    “Trinidad and Tobago is tightening lockdown restrictions for three weeks starting at midnight as the number of new Covid-19 cases hits record highs and the islands face a potential shortage of hospital beds, Reuters reports.”

    *CNS: Here’s a link to the Reuters article.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Billions have been spent worldwide on covid boosters…yet science did not make many steps forward in preventing , diagnosing and treating cancers, neurological and vestibular conditions, as many others . . In fact, every week or so a new disease/syndrome is being identified. Medicine is eagerly moving towards a telemedicine and many believe it is a good thing. Physical examination of a patient is a history. Even during telemedicine session a doctor types staring into his computer hardly glancing at a patient. Doctors have become merely technicians interpreting scans and lab results that were already interpreted by somebody else.

    IS THIS kind of “health care” you want to have in your future? I hope I am wrong, but covid trials guinea pigs would learn it a hard way. I know many nice people who did voluntarily submit themselves to clinical trials. I’d hate to see them suffer.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Vaccinated people can still transmit the virus although the transmission rate for vaccinated people is almost certainly much lower than non-vaccinated people.

    The incubation period for both vaccinated and non-vaccinated people is 14 days. Therefore if we want to keep the virus out we cannot reduce the quarantine period. If we do we are just playing Russian roulette.

    • Anonymous says:

      Technically true: in Canada, the instance of fully vaccinated air travelers testing positive on arrival is a statistically unremarkable 0.025% and that rate includes the lesser mess-market Sputnik V, Covaxin, Covashield, and Sinovac. It’s almost nothing. All the vaccines provide robust immune recognition, even against VOCs.

      • Anonymous says:

        The Canadian data is technically true but omits those testing positive days after arrival. The 2 in the CNS report also tested negative on arrival but positive 10 days later part way through the incubation period.

      • Anonymous says:

        How many vaccinated people who are also shedding the virus does it take to cause local spread if they are released into the community? My guess is 1.

    • Anonymous says:

      Agreed – how many arriving people shedding the virus, whether vaccinated or not, does it take to trip off large scale local transmission. The answer is only 1. We should be doing what we can to make sure that does not happen.

  4. Anonymous says:

    The vaccine works!

    Covid cases fall sharply in U.S., Gottlieb calls vaccination campaign ‘monumental achievement’

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/02/covid-gottlieb-says-cases-will-decline-vaccinations-monumental-achievement.html

    • Anonymous says:

      🦜🦜🦜
      We can read too. And our sources of information differ from yours. We even translate research/studies if it is written in a foreign to us languages. We omit BigPharma, CDS and mainstream media reports and conclusions.

      *CNS: The blanket dismissal of official sources and MSM is just silly and is usually an excuse to latch onto the latest quackery from some obscure scientist outside the bounds of his or her level of expertise or at least contrary to the overwhelming consensus of experts, rushing to make a name for themselves by pandering to the anti-vax or anti-mask or anti-whatevertheyaretellingustodo mob. Remember the two Bakersfield doctors who made a big splash in April 2020 when they called a press conference to say covid was no worse than the flu? We don’t hear from them anymore. But they sure sounded good and used lots of bogus stats.

      In the UK people tend to trust the NHS because it is not profit based. NHS info is here. Since the vaccination rollout, cases, hospitalisations and deaths in the UK have plummeted. Trying to argue with the stats, which are remarkable, is madness.

      • Anonymous says:

        CNS, bless you for having to deal with the constant stream of buffoons. Thanks for taking the time to address them!

  5. Anonymous says:

    New Zealand is limiting employment opportunities for front line people who refuse vaccine.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/03/new-zealand-fires-nine-border-workers-who-refused-covid-vaccine

    • Anonymous says:

      Well, then they will have shortage of available workforce. Nurses already leaving medical field. Who is going to treat you in a year or two when your doctor will be baffled with your sudden health problems?

      The boosters, last time I checked, are still experimental.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Nurses already leaving medical field.”

        Do you have a source and statistics to support this. Just unsubstantiated rhetoric.

      • Anonymous says:

        Do you have any idea how microscopically small and inactive-by-itself the vaccine is? All these vaccines are, are things that look enough to your immune system like the SARS-CoV-2 virus, so your immune system can learn to fight it. Even if the vaccines are technically “experimental” because we can’t wait years to be absolutely 1000% sure about them, the active contents of a vaccine shot, if they were bad for your body, could be cleaned up in a flash. In fact, that’s what happens – and how your body becomes ready for the real thing. It’s that simple.

        • Anonymous says:

          Previous infection? Which mysteriously bypassed the pre arrival test? So was the pre flight test to the same standard as the arrival one? Has anyone checked the legitimacy of the pre arrival test?

  6. Anonymous says:

    Cayman Airways fully booked from Miami until June 2.

    • Anon says:

      5.24pm We have a lot of big spenders coming then, if they can afford CAL’s “sky high” monopolistic fares. By the way when are going to see CAL’s accounts, as all their staff received full pay during Covid whether they had work or not, and the taxpayers needs to see where all their money went.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Weakly positive? Can we get a definition on that please.

    Also CNS was that two travelers that had negative tests to get on the plane who tested positive on arrival or tested positive at the end of their 10-day. There seems to be some confusion around this.

    • Anonymous says:

      Viral load below 100 is weekly positive.

      • Anonymous says:

        Oops, Weakly not weekly.

        • Guido Marsupio says:

          They are not measuring viral load, though. They are doing PCR, so “weakly” is a function of the number of cycles required to get a positive. You can check out the Wikipedia entry on PCR and make your own judgment on how many cycles should be run before they stop and declare the sample to be a negative.

    • Anonymous says:

      Weakly positive is when you zoom the microscope in too far in class.

  8. Anonymous says:

    To open our borders , we need to look at the other countries that wants to come here and wait until their Covid 19 cases are under control, with the majority of them being Vaccined, plus the majority of of people here being Vaccined too

  9. Anonymous says:

    Vaccinated, negative 72 hr prior, negative on arrival, then weakly positive at day 10? I would be concerned more about the validity of that “weakly positive” result.

    • Anonymous says:

      Wishful thinking- the incubation period in vaccinated people is up to 14 days same as everyone else.

      It is ridiculous to think that we can negotiate shorter quarantine periods with a virus

    • Anonymous says:

      It is a very common practice here in Canada to not retest a person that has tested positive.
      It is known now that the positive result can linger as long as 3-4 months.
      Communicability of disease after 2 weeks is low and certainly if this person was vaccinated and had a weak positive test , this clinical situation points to a PREVIOUS infection.

  10. Anonymous says:

    It’s time to reduce the quarantine period for those showing proof of vaccination, to 5 days or even zero.

    Those who have not been vaccinated should quarantine for the full 14 day period. Then you will see a rise in the numbers of people approaching for a vaccine.

    It’s time to start making these moves, before the general populace start getting restless.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Pleased to see this level of diligence is paying off and I’m trusting the new Government will continue to protect our borders with such diligence.

  12. Courtney Platt says:

    I’m increasingly worried that 40% of our population might ignorantly pass on the opportunity to make all of us both physically and economically safer when we try to fully reopen. This is the best chance we have to do this right without unnecessarily killing our most vulnerable (and sometimes even children and those who have no predispositions). We have the preventative vaccine on hand, but it expires in June. The UK won’t send us more if we waste it while they and many others are still in great want of it. Come on people, get with the program and save lives, perhaps your own! Herd immunity through vaccination is how the whole world will snuff out this pandemic and get back to normal. We have this chance to be among the first, just like we were among the few to eliminate its spread through effective isolation. Covid has already miserably killed close to 1 in 150 Americans who caught it. The jab has killed nearly zero in close to 1 Billion people who’ve taken it. Please consider your loved ones and take the little jab while you can!

    • Anon says:

      Three jabs actually…

    • Anonymous says:

      You sign up for three jabs a year. Me, no thanks!

      • Guido Marsupio says:

        No, they will probably mix the COVID booster with the regular annual flu shot so no more jabs than you already get. GET VACCINATED!

      • Anonymous says:

        The Pfizer vaccine is currently 2 jabs. The 3rd jab is not yet confirmed. You are correct it may be possible its needed but it’s not known just yet. Even if you do need a 3rd shot it would likely be a year after your second shot.

    • Anonymous says:

      When you say the ‘jab’ has killed nearly zero, are you including the thousands of previously healthy people who have been killed? How about the many thousands of people who have been injured, official reported cases.
      It only ever claimed to reduce the symptoms of the person who took it, nothing else, so please stop bullying others into being part of a medical trial against their will.

      *CNS: Oh yes, those “official reported cases”. Since you don’t say, I’m guessing this is a reference to the latest Facebook BS. Fact Check-VAERS data does not prove thousands died from receiving COVID-19 vaccines

      The main symptom that the vaccine claims to prevent is dying. Also not being able to breath. As a bonus, it goes a long way to stop people spreading it.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Hong Kong just introduced a new rule that all domestic helpers on work permits have to be vaccinated in the next 7 days as a condition of keeping their work permits

  14. Jim Link says:

    Wanting to travel in June to the caymans. When is the estimated time where the country will be open.

  15. Curious says:

    Does the figure of 55% include foreigners who came to Cayman to get their shots and have since left? If so, I would estimate the number of actual residents vaccinated to be closer to 50%.

  16. Anonymous says:

    The clinic has closed? How do you get the shot now?

    • Anonymous says:

      No, it hasn’t. It continues at the airport as per HSA.ky

    • Anonymous says:

      Airport clinic is closed. New clinic is at Camana Bay in the old location of the Mac Store.

      CIG has been doing a “wonderful” job of getting the word out…

      • Anonymous says:

        Well there you go, two conflicting posts. No wonder it isn’t going well. This article clearly states the airport clinic closed last Wednesday.

  17. Anonymous says:

    So before the anti vax idiots come here saying “see, the vaccine doesn’t even work” let’s look at why breakthrough cases happen.

    The vaccine is 95% effective and some will still get the virus, this is expected. Vaccinated people can still be carriers and the virus can still infect them. However, the body knows how to fight it when fully vaccinated. This allows the body to shut it down quickly before it gets the chance to replicate to a point it can cause COVID-19.

    Remember, the RT-PCR only looks for the virus, it does not diagnose you with the disease the virus causes; COVID-19. This is why the RT-PCR tests will still find fully vaccinated people positive for the detection of SARS-COV-2. This comes down to viral load within the body. Being vaccinated substantially reduced viral load as the body will begin to fight the virus immediately. Therefore, if you get infected with the virus, the chances of developing COVID-19 are greatly reduced making you less infectious to other people and unlikely to have any ill effects yourself.

    • Anonymous says:

      Paranoid?

    • Anonymous says:

      Idiots? No, we are waiting for the trial to be over, vaccine fully approved and Parma liability protection lifted.
      He, who laughs last, laughs best.

      • Anonymous says:

        glad you touched on the liability protection. People seem to forget, or purposely ignore that all of this is a trial. All who were overrun with fear and chose to get the vaccine have signed themselves up to be the test subjects. If any side effects develop from the vaccine in the next 2-5 years, do you think that you can hold anyone responsible? Do you think anything will happen when you say “well the government told me to do it, they will help”. All those celebrities, government representatives and members of the public trying to guilt trip you into taking the vaccine right now will turn their back on you should anything happen because of it. Each individual is responsible for their own health and I’m comfortable in saying most of us who don’t want to take the vaccine have concerns about it and given it some thought.

        • Truth says:

          It all comes down to personal choice. Please choose as you see fit. Do as you think is right and the best for you. Please do not choose for everyone else.

  18. Anonymous says:

    People who write Compass articles are idiots. No way an experimental shot could be forced upon people so they could keep or apply for a job. So there’s nothing to debate about, other than messing with people’s minds. I recommend Compass stop assuming that its readers are fools and employe qualified staff.

    The vaccine trial will end in 2023, and if fully approved, total immunity from liability removed, then and only then people might feel more comfortable getting it. Still mandatory shots can’t be forced upon people without employers liability for injuries and deaths.

    From the Pfizer, April, 2021

    “.. The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has 🚫NOT been approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FD….”

    “… The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is a vaccine and 🚫MAY prevent you from getting COVID-19.…”

    “ It is 🚫YOUR choice to receive the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine.”

    “ The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine may 🚫not protect everyone.”

    “ Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is STILL being studied in clinical trials”

    Be well!

    • Unknown says:

      Does health insurance cover medical costs if there are side effects from experimental drugs?

      • Anonymous says:

        They should.

      • Anonymous says:

        Normally wouldn’t but in terms of “experimental” it means if you are a part of a clinical trial. Receiving the vaccine and getting serious side effects a between 2-4 out of 1,000,000 people. So its unlikely you’ll have an issue to begin with…

  19. Anonymous says:

    Does anyone know what cycle threshold the PCR test is being run at?

  20. Anonymous says:

    This virus is to be taken seriously! Look at INDIA AT THE MOMENT INDEPENDENTS CANIDATES!

  21. Anonymous says:

    Less than 1% of vaccinated people positive.
    Almost inline with the CDC findings of 99% protection from a vaccine.
    Get your shots people time to open up!

    • Anonymous says:

      Less than 1% of the world test positive if the oct test is run at below 30 cycles….open your eyes

  22. Anon says:

    What is weakly positive? This is a very important distinction as we try to progress through covid. If this test was really negative, repprting a positive vaccination case negatively impacts the whole vaccination effort, and ultimately border opening.
    Even if postive, data suggests an extremely low transmission rate, much lower than an unvaccinated postive.
    We need to embrace measures to move forward not look for irrational arguments to maintain restrictive measures.

  23. Anonymous says:

    Who the hell cares?

  24. Anonymous says:

    Does anyone know if we are still doing genome sequencing on positive cases in order to detect any of the newer variants. I have not seen anything in that regard in months. Hopefully still are checking as the new variants are causing havoc in other countries.

    • Anonymous says:

      We do not have the ability to do genome sequencing.

      • Anonymous says:

        Public Health was sending 10% off for genome sequencing months ago – not sure about now.

        Bermuda has recognised the importance of genome sequencing and therefore now do their own – and they have lots of Covid cases now.

  25. Anonymous says:

    Given that the Sars-CoV-2 incubation period can be 14 days are longer, I wonder how many cases we are going to miss by reducing the quarantine period for vaccinated people from 14 days to 10 day

    Time will tell.

    • Anonymous says:

      Exactly, and with the changing variants as well, it is risky to undo all we have to favour people who choose to travel.

  26. Anonymous says:

    The fact that 2 vaccinated travelers tested negative on arrival but positive at 10 days is further evidence of the need to maintain quarantine.

    I do not know if these 2 were infectious at any point in time but we cannot afford to be releasing potentially infectious people into our not particularly well vaccinated population. As Bermuda has discovered, a tiny number of infectious people being allowed to mix with the population can result in many hospitalizations and deaths.

  27. Anonymous says:

    Keep the borders closed until the virus is globally extinguished. We can not risk the lives of all the island’s under 16’s who can not be vaccinated

    • Anonymous says:

      And so many variants appearing with no way to guarantee the effectiveness of the vaccine. We have done too much to get complacent now.

    • Anonymous says:

      Kids and teens have been going to school (even in areas with high rates of community transmission) and have been FINE with very low transmission among students.

    • DBH says:

      Borders closed until Covid is globally extinguish = borders never reopening. It is not realistic to think we can keep the border closed until Covid is extinguished. Wake up let’s get on with figuring out how to live with it, oh right there is a vaccine but let’s not take advantage of getting everyone protected because if we do then we might have to let those nasty tourist come back. You know those people that come here and spend money on dive outings, dinner at restaurants, groceries to stock their vacation rental, take a cab to and from places, rent cars, go shopping, etc. Right we don’t want those people. We want to stay isolated until Covid is extinguished. NOT!

  28. Anonymous says:

    Good. That proves the need for us to continue quarantine. Make it free for residents who are vaccinated, and make everyone else pay.

  29. Anonymous says:

    Before the conspiracists start, please remember it takes a while to develop immunity. It isn’t an immediate thing – especially after only 1 dose.

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