Church-led demo fails to make human chain
(CNS): Less than 200 people joined the demonstration on Saturday to protest the Domestic Partnership Bill, which the church-led opposition called the “homosexual law”. The group failed to make the full human chain they had hoped for between the Government Administration Building on Elgin Avenue and the Legislative Assembly. Meanwhile, the president of activist group Colours Cayman stood in quiet support of the LGBT+ community across from the protest.
The march was organised by Kattina Anglin and the Christian Association for Civics and not the Cayman Ministers Association.
Protestors stood in line from the GAB to the police station, where the line was broken but picked up again opposite the post office and ending before the court building. Most of the signs carried by the demonstrators took a biblical position on the opposition to same-sex marriage, though many went further, with some even declaring that “take over is the ultimate aim”.
This refers to a far right religious conspiracy theory that suggests homosexuality is a ploy by dark forces to eliminate the human race.
Meanwhile, although the local LGBT+ community had not organised a counter demonstration to the church protest, Billie Bryan, the president of Colours Cayman, stood in quiet support of their rights. Although taunted by some of the church members and asked to take biblical placards, Bryan politely declined and instead held the rainbow flag.
The demonstration involved a relatively high police presence for a Christian demonstration and one officer was assigned to protect Bryan.
During the protest organisers collected donations for a fund to challenge Governor Martyn Roper’s decision to pass the Domestic Partnership Bill into law using his reserved powers. A petition in support of a no-confidence vote in the Legislative Assembly and calling for a people-initiated referendum on the bill was also in circulation.
Despite its latest criticisms of the premier, the governor and the bill, the official opposition has been attempting to distance itself from the fundraising efforts for a legal battle over the issue and has denied planning a no-confidence vote in the premier.
Following backroom talks between the opposition and proxies for some members of government over the last few weeks regarding a potential coup involving the opposition, the speaker and two government ministers, all those involved have now denied plotting against McLaughlin.
Nevertheless, the petition continues to circulate, indicating its connection to the opposition leader and a survey on public opinion regarding the bill. By noon on Thursday the petition had collected 759 names. The current register of electors stands as 21,824 voters.
Category: Laws, Local News, Politics
Of all the other pressing issues affecting Cayman that will actually have an affect on the average Caymanian.. this is what they protest. Not lack of jobs or employment opportunities for Caymanians, not over priced utilities, not a too high cost of living, not a too high real estate market, not the substandard education system, not the effecting wiping out of the mangroves, the rampant selling out of the island to foreigners by the people and the government, not one man owning most of Cayman, not wasteful Government spending, Government corruption and complacency. No they protest something that will not have any impact on their narrow minded lives at all.
A movement led by a bunch of hypocritical one day Christians who sweep incest, all the abuses, and worse under the rug when it’s their own families and friends.
#Caymankind
Of course they failed to make a human chain.
Making a human chain would require humanity – a quality that is sorely lacking here.
Well said Mark Twain
“organisers collected donations for a fund”
Bwahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahh… omg… They collected “donations for a fund”… hahhahahahahaahahaahaahaha..
I’m dyin’ over here. Donations! For a fund! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL…
Kudos to the “fund administrators”. Lol.
I was happy to be a part of a very successful revolutionary statement stretching from the Government Admin Building to the LA,
against the UK DICTATORIAL intimidation democracy destroying decrees.
All that needed to be achieved on Saturday was achieved.
Please join us for the second gathering at the Governor’s residence on Saturday afternoon.
See ya there.
All are welcome, even LGBTQIs, yes God loves you too.
So what exactly is your goal? What are you trying to accomplish here? To stop the DPB ?
If the DPB is passed I will be required to become gay and dissolve my current marriage.
(not the person you replied to, just how I think they’d reply with their line of reasoning)
If that is what they think no God can help them. I never became straight even though heterosexual people are always around me and can legally marry. I wish those protesters could find something constructive to do. Like volunteer to help less fortunate, for example.
Well, they keep crying victim to say the gay lifestyle is being imposed on them through this bill.
When gay sex was legalized 2 decades ago I didn’t suddenly turn gay and leave my husband. I really don’t get their mental gymnastics. No one is telling them not to be Christian yet they’re telling other people to live by their Bible?
When someone says ‘gay lifestyle ‘ I really try to understand what exactly they imagine and what thoughts may be running through their restless heads. Me and my future spouse have exactly the same lifestyle as everyone else : work,supermarket, pay bills, stress,repeat. I really would like to know what they mean by ‘gay lifestyle’ but I doubt any of them would be able to coherently explain it.
The poppers, the parties, you know, that sort of thing. The sex swing type stuff.
Never did anything like that. Nor do I have any interest in those. But I know those activities are popular between some heterosexuals too. Next !
Thanks for explaining it !! These bunch of bible beating fools have no clue.
Grow up!!!!!!
I am looking forward to the next Caymanian protection gathering at the Governors residence on Saturday afternoon.
The UK is a mighty bulldog bully but
our people are finding the strength to stand up for what is right.
There come a time in every generation when the fight for right has to be done and we are answering the call to fight against the UK’s oppression.
Unna have time.
There is no God. But there is no shortage of greedy preachers.
Well, in my experience, Kattina Anglin is a genuine person. By her own testimony and the testimony of those who have seen her struggles and subsequent victories, she is a lady who walks what she talks.
I have never heard her express any hatred towards any group of people regardless of their beliefs.
She once told me that if the Church was more repentant and humble in this situation, only then would they see the hand of God.
In closing, I would just say that if Kattina Anglin is not of God, then nothing will come of it, but if she is, some of us will be found fighting a battle we cannot win.
Kattina, God bless you and know that your stand is not without honour.
I find it somewhat hypocritical for people like Kattina Anglin to judge others or claim others are damaging the sanctity of marriage, family structure, or raising children with Christian morals when she herself (per recent article) has had unplanned children at 14yo, out of wedlock, been a drug abuser, homeless, etc.
While it may be admirable she is no longer homeless and hopefully not still abusing drugs and has turned to God to turn her life around, how can she claim that a homosexual person is attacking the family structure or contributing to issues when she herself does not take accountability? The adultery, pedophilia, children born out of wedlock, divorce that has ACTUALLY damaged the family structure has mostly heterosexuals to blame.
The mental gymnastics
You find as you find.
Indeed. I find Ms Anglin’s need to impose her own religious beliefs on others both incomprehensible and repellent.
It seems you have proven Katina’s point. If she has such a background, which I do not doubt, it gives her more legitimacy to champion the cause of God. Only a powerful and loving God could save someone with such a history. If that is the God that she is following and commending to us, then she is worth listening. Why is it necessary to attach someone who is seeking to better her society, even if you do not agree with her views? Can you not limit your commentary to the issues?
Thank you David
It is absolutely contemptible that persons writing anonymously would have the gall to slander and besmirch stand-up people like Kattina Anglin.
Anybody making such comments should at least own them and face up to a fair accounting.
That day will come, actually, and we should all get ourselves ready for it.
Nobody being bad-mouthed anonymously should worry about it. Such accusations are featherweight for the accused, but weighty beyond measure for the accuser.
Well, Bishop Sykes that is why they post as anonymous.
Thank you for your stand.
I post anonymously so God doesn’t know it’s me.
Jerry Falwell Jr.
I don’t want to start any blasphemous rumours
but I think that God’s got a sick sense of humour
and when I die, I expect to find him laughing!
These people. Protesting what other people do. Other people who love each other. Big LOLZ. They’ve literally nothing better to do with their lives?
They could:
Walk dogs at a shelter
Deliver food to old people
Read a book to young children
Work in a charity store
Pick up litter that other residents have left
But, no, they protest against equality for a minority.
And for the people who do all these things and more and still protest?
Haha, they don’t though!
It’s always been said that the most homophobic people are secretly gay themselves, and they act that way because they are in denial, or they don’t want people to think they’re gay. So a lot of these people… you never know 🤷♂️
A phobia is an irrational fear of something, not a disapproval or disagreement with someone or something.
We know the definition, but it still doesn’t stop ya Bible thumpers from toe tapping in airport restrooms.
Absolutely pathetic – couldn’t even rally enough support. Is this the minority that has cost this country thousands of dollars in legal fees and nonsense.
Shame on the organisers. Thankfully most people decided not to support this.
Did someone fail the human rights class in law school.
People like them are one of the reasons why many of us, including me,have a huge crisis of faith. Where is love in them, and God is love, just cherry picking of convenient agenda to cause distress to certain minorities since they believe LGBTQ is a relatively easy target. They don’t dear to protest about things that they are simply afraid of to speak against, whether it’s fear or direct involvement. How dear they? Passive aggressive attitude is truly horrible. They have to consider that the ones they rally against are very likely to be in their household. Perhaps a spouse too.
They keep bringing same sex marriage in equation. This is what we hopefully get back soon.
My popcorn is ready for the rainbow 🌈 fireworks in February next year
And it’s going to be excellent time to start same sex weddings here. Hopefully tourism resumes by then and this will bring so many people and so much money and opportunities. For years same sex couples wanted to get married here and had to look for more gay friendly jurisdictions. It will be so funny to see some of those anti same sex anything jump on it to make a few dollars because we spend. Just watch…
Just goes to show you how big an issue this is NOT.
After centuries of oppression, torture, threats, exploitation of the poor and uneducated, and sexual abuse of thousands of kids…..after trying to deny that the earth was round, that dinosaurs existed, that the world was older than 2000 years, and that natural selection was real…..finally the brain-virus we call religion is circling the drain. I hope I love to see it finally go down for the good of all mankind.
Why are you calling ourselves a ‘Christian’ community when you are ignoring the biggest message the Bible is trying to teach us all! That message is Love! The Lord said’Love one another as I have loved you’ …’Do unto others as you would have others do unto you’ Jesus did not segregate his followers..He preached to anyone and everyone that wanted to hear His word! So stop this nonsense! Everyone is entitled to live their own lives the way they want to! No human being is perfect and none of us has the right to ‘judge’anyone! All this negativity towards the LGBTQ group is the same as saying that blind,deaf,or deformed people or those without arms or legs or some other abnormality should not have the same rights as ‘normal’ people!? But! What exactly IS ‘normal??? All this hatred and prejudice has got to stop …focus on your own lives and let everyone else live theirs! IF you ARE ‘Christians’ there should be no room in your hearts for this sort of behaviour which is extremely hypocritical!! And for all of your sakes, I pray that you will all wake up to this realization before it is YOUR turn to be judged!?!
You obviously don’t know the meaning of hypocritical.
“This refers to a far right religious conspiracy theory that suggests homosexuality is a ploy by dark forces to eliminate the human race.”
Please stop listening to your idiot preachers. This is some Alex Jones level BS…
LOL. So funny. Most those people would still be slaves if human rights never existed. What dum dums. Great turn out cry babies.
The hypocrisy is Caribbean wide, and perhaps further afield when black lives matter, unless you’re gay.
Those same people preaching about god, who say god loves everyone. A bunch of hypocrites.
Billie Bryan was never in any danger.
Unlike other places, Caymanians do not hate minority or “other” groups of people.
E.g. Our police service has never been officially deemed as “institutionally racist”.
Can the Gov say the same?
We have no homophobic hate crimes equivalent to the racist British ice-axe slaying of young, black Anthony Walker (by a gang of four young, white men) for the offense of being the wrong colour at the wrong time and place.
(Google it.)
Add to that the proud, democratic expression of national xenophobia (at best) and racism (at worst / standard) with the Brexit vote – I believe the “mother country” is taking the p*ss quite a bit when her representative dares to slander our community.
Those insisting on no change to the definition of marriage in their country is entitled to that opinion and belief.
Civil unions / partnerships should have been introduced alongside marriage from a long time ago, however, we eventually learned that was not acceptable to the ladies bringing the action.
Call me silly, but I believe in striving for the most amicable solution toward ensuring equal protection under, and access to, the laws of a community.
Unfortunately, others insist on turning over the apple cart and suggesting my deeply-convicted, old-fashioned, gentle Pastor (who would not even bless my child if conceived out of wedlock, much less host a gay marriage) is equal to Adolf Hitler.
Some folks today really ought to get off their high horses, find some humility, respect cultural differences and work toward making their world as enjoyable as possible for everyone therein.
For example, I have long come to terms with the fact that England is filled with many xenophobic and racist people.
It is what it is.
Never will you see me protesting against Brexit in Parliament Square, London on behalf of Blacks, Asians, Eastern Europeans or drowned migrants – for the the people have spoken.
In turn it would be great if the Governor (and friends) would realize that the majority of Caymanians are against any change in the definition of marriage – which, make no mistake about it, is the ultimate objective of the forces behind this mission.
We love our gay fellow Caymanians as much as we love our white, black, brown fellow Caymanians.
I wonder if Great Brexitain can say the same?
– Whodatis
“We love our gay fellow Caymanians as much as we love our white, black, brown fellow Caymanians.”
Actions speak louder than words, and the actions clearly show you don’t love them at all
I raised the bar.
You’re gonna have to reply with greater substance to illicit a meaningful response.
– Who
Too many drinks at the bar if you ask me, Who.
Typical coward you are.
– Who
You walked in to the bar, a few too many times.
Lol, you NEVER raise the bar! Get over yourself. SMH
You must have had your head in the sand in the UK for a while.
Just listen to the rhetoric from the opposition over the bill, otr when they wasted a week on the Family Bill earlier in year. Some MLA’s took almost a day on how evil gay people are.
Also what is the point of you saying you would never be seen in the UK protesting about Brexit?
I have not seen any expats in Cayman protesting, the only protestors were the anti-gay, bible bashers who seemed either Caymanian or Jamaican, it can be hard to differentiate.
If you think the average Caymanian looks anything like the average Jamaican then you haven’t lived here long enough. Also, Jamaicans are expats too, so you can’t say “I have not seen any expats in Cayman protesting” then in the very same sentence mention Jamaicans.
You didn’t see any expats, only Jamaicans eh?
I’m sure you are now seeing your own deep-seeded bias, albeit a bit too late.
Yes, this is really you.
– Who
a deep seeded bias, why the hatred for the Jamaican community, Xenophobic much.
Its like you thing you are superior to them.
Not to mention your hatred for all things British as well as their people, yet you live there.
Oh dear…now I am embarrassed for you as well.
Never mind, it will all come together for you…eventually.
Wish you a pleasant afternoon.
– Who
“Billie Bryan was never in any danger.”
As a Caymanian who grew up chanting “battyman fi ded” and beat up the gay kid in high school only to come out the closet when I became an adult, I can confirm there are people on this island that would love to hurt innocent Billie.
Let’s also not forget that Jamaicans are known to kill homosexuals of their own and many of the demonstrators were Jamaican. I have nothing against expats – don’t get me wrong – this is just plain facts. To say Billie was in no danger is being ignorant of reality with a “Caymankind” veil over your eyes..
Clearly you are / were a violent individual with repressed sexual urges.
I trust you have sought professional help to come to terms with your inner turmoil.
In the meantime, kindly speak for yourself and quit relying on “Jamaicans were in the crowd of Christians therefore violence was inevitable” because I’m embarrassed on your behalf.
The irony in all of this is that you (and your supporters) truly believe you are against the discrimination of others.
– Whodatis
Swim with sharks eventually you get bit
You spoilt it when you began your attacks on Jamaicans. How many did you count in the protest? You are not really intetested in ‘rights’. You sound like a classic hater. Would you join the fight for fairer treatment for everyone? I dont think so.
Spot on.
– Who
I spoilt it when I put facts on the table? Take another look at the pictures.
I’m not hating, I just don’t like anyone telling me how to live my life when I don’t tell them how to live theirs. I have no problem with them living here and worshipping until they start wishing fire and fi ded on our own people.
On Facebook I’ve had Jamaicans (and Caymanians!) living here tell me to leave my own islands because of my sexuality! Who is the one hating ya say?!
Why does everything you write revolve around the UK? Most of your post is off-topic.
He is a secret uk loving man, trying to suppress his feelings. Come out of the closet whodatis
Maybe because the UK via the FCO via the Governor is dead-center to the issue at hand?
Obviously you responded in this manner as you could find no way to counter the valid and relevant points raised in my post.
Feel free to try again..but next time, with some sense please.
– Whodatis
Prince Andrew…. just going to leave that there.
Nah. I really have better things to do.
Daddy issues.
Idiot
Maybe I am.
However, one thing we do know; Anthony Walker and Stephen Lawrence were not.
– Whodatis
Well said. I believe in the state supporting sexual freedom, but I also believe that those who oppose it have every right to do so and not be vilified by keyboard warriors hiding behind anonymity. The right to demonstrate is everyone’s, not just those proclaiming liberal ideals.
My name is Charles Jennings.
Finally, a response I can respect – and not because we are essentially in agreement.
– Who
*I am happy to engage in meaningful exchange, but the majority of you get all in your feelings (as the kids say) and resort to cowardly ad hominem attacks.
Please go away again, who dat is dat we don’t care for.
To Anonymous 2:34 pm: “The majority of Caymanians”, eh? Interesting.
Good old fashioned England bashing deflection from Whodatis. We missed your hackneyed trolling techniques and your responses to comments so filled with arrogance, superiority and narcissism.
“We love our gay Caymanians as long as they accept our version of discrimination against them”.
In a crowded field, this may be your most confused, irrational, nonsensical post ever.
If you truly believed that, you would have highlighted examples.
You are actually full of it – and clearly offended by the simple truth within my post.
It is what it is, brother / sister.
– Whodatis
You have apparently forgotten about the poor fellow here in Cayman who was executed for being gay.
And the great Whodumbis speaks.
You truly are a racist moron, your self indulgent and factually incorrect rants only prove that your own hypocrisy knows no bounds.
It is a recognised fact that the UK is one of the most welcoming and diverse nations on earth, otherwise why would the immigrants you refer to risk their lives to get there, why does it have huge and settled Jamaican, Indian, Pakistani and hundreds of other immigrant communities thriving and living their British dream?
Sadly the UK also suffers the same epidemic as many other western countries, black males killing black males. That fact far outweighing any perception that blacks are the victims of merciless whites who are hunting down and killing at will.
The term ‘institutional racism’ was one first utilised by a judge who presided over the very system that stopped the killers of a young innocent black man being convicted. Police mess up all the time, but it was because this was a racially motivated murder that an entire police service was labelled ‘institutionally racist’ causing immeasurable damage in the rush to be an apologist for an entire race.
And before you throw rocks, take a look at your own treatment of Jamaicans, Philippinos and Hispanics on these islands, it’s a disgrace bordering on indentured slavery when remuneration, housing and respect is considered.
The only reason racists on these rocks aren’t held to account is because you are cowards who wouldn’t dare enact law that you know would stop your bigotry and hatred in its tracks.
And do the world a favour, get over Brexit, it’s done, live with it.
As with most haters, your irrational and visceral hatred blinds you to the truth, because if ‘most’ Caymanians are against the bill, where are they and why weren’t they at the GAB/LA?
You forgot “Rule Britannia” at the end there buddy 🙂
– Whodatis
The Irony in all of this is the interracial couple who was involved with this don’t have the common sense to realize without people protesting and fighting for their rights to marry back in the day they would not be married today and I am pretty sure all of the people who fought were not all straight. I wish these people would spend their idle time trying to help families that need it in their communities and stop making us look backwards to the rest of the civilized world. Religion makes people more stupid.
Church functions always have a low turnout when there is no food being served.
…..donated by the local MLA
They would have done it cause dozens of us were waiting at the LA and didn’t know that that was the plan ,we thought they were marching to the LA .
Come on, shake your body, baby, do the conga.
🎶I know you can’t control yourself any longer.
Feel the rhythm of the music getting stronger.
Don’t you fight it ’til you tried it, do that conga beat!🎶
Fun facts:
* Nowhere in the Bible does it command to “hate thy neighbour”.
* Cayman Compass put the high-conviction hate-rally attendance numbers at 120.
* Caribbean Territories (Criminal Law) Order, 2000, took effect on 1 January 2001, legalizing homosexuality and introducing LGBT rights.
* Penal Code (2017):
88A. (1) A person who, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress –
(a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour; or
(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress commits an offence and is liable to imprisonment for three years…
(2) An offence under this section may be committed in public place or a private place.
(3) A constable may arrest, without a warrant, anyone he reasonably suspects is committing an offence under this section.
I find your comment very threatening…… I’m scared of you. Please don’t kill me!.. your micro aggressions are really really making me feel unsafe. Someone call the governor please.
way to appreciate a peaceful demonstration. XXXX govt has no reason to be involved in ‘unions’ that do not continue the success of society itself. Traditional families always have and do – not each one is successful, but overall it is better to have nuclear families producing strong stable citizens. That only applies of course, if the good of society is still the purpose of govt.
Nuclear Families you say producing strong nd stable citizens, please remember that kid’s from “nuclear” families can be gay are you saying they should be entitled to a home and family life; there was a time when interracial couples were considered illegal and immoral to society. Consenting adults should have the right to live their truth and enjoy a home and family life.
A simple daisy chain could have taken care of this.
Ewe.
Silly hypocrites. If they want to express outrage as Church leaders, there are a dozen other issues including the behavior of one of our esteemed senior politicians. There’s plenty there to keep them all howling for a very long time.
A massive 1% of the electorate bothered to show up to protest against two consenting adults.
So much for “the LGBT is imposing the gay lifestyle on the majority”. Just a really loud, hateful minority fighting against other minorities.
“Kattina Anglin and the Christian Association for Civics” do not represent the true Christianity that I know. Whatever version this is, I don’t like it and that’s why I didn’t show up.
Kattina doesn’t speak on behalf of us all. Peace and love be to you.
See, as an Atheist Caymanian I like Christians like you and will stand up for your right to worship as long as you continue to honor my right not to.
The divide and war comes into full effect when one side demands the other to live a life they don’t want to. I don’t block people from going to church or tell them to change their sexuality for me, so I don’t expect to be stopped in the street by an evangelist telling me I’m on my way to hell. Nor do I expect to be bound by biblical laws as if we’re a theocracy here.
Peace and love to you too my Caymanian brother/sisters.
No one is stopping anyone from being gay or trans or whatever else just like no one is forcing you to go to church. Stop with the nonsense.
And to the Christian that posted above, you should be concerned that an atheist agrees with your stance on this. Katinna Anglin is correct In her stance from a Christian perspective. I only wish she had advertised the March more. I didn’t know about it.
Huh? No one is stopping lgbtq from living life?!?!! Do you even comprehend what you’re typing?
Nope. Clearly they havent figured out the human rights part yet. Still focused on sex and fornication…narrow minded, hyprocrital haters.
@2:45pm
Though I agree with the “spirit of mind” that you make your point.
I have to inform you that you are very wrong! Kattina Anglin does represent the “true” Christianity you know.
She (like you) simply “cherry-picks” the part that supports her agenda. It’s the same Christianity with a disgusting good/evil book as it’s nucleus.
I won’t quote any verses to make my point (I’m sure it wouldn’t be news to you).
The day that we can all let go of this religious dogma by teaching the next generation, and the “teachable” of our generation…will be the day we start to have a more rational, sensible generation that stands a better chance of escaping the hateful perspective that most religious text espouse. But good luck to us all with such a task.
We just all need to free ourselves of Gods,Angels,Demons,and Devils…After all, they are so weighty to carry around.
Move on its 2020 there is no place for this!
They are all worried about becoming gay when it is legal
surely they’ve tried it by now.