CoP accepts findings in rogue rider arrest

| 04/06/2020 | 44 Comments
Police Commissioner Derek Byrne

(CNS): Police Commissioner Derek Byrne has said that he accepts the findings of the Ombudsman Sandy Hermiston, following an independent review of the arrest of a rogue rider on 4 April, where an officer was accused of using unnecessary force. In a short statement in response to the report, Byrne said a discipline investigation has been initiated against the arresting officers and a number of police polices would be reviewed.

Byrne said that he had received the full “very comprehensive and thorough review” prepared by the ombudsman on 1 June, detailing her findings after launching a public interest investigation into an RCIPS pursuit of rogue riders.

“In that report the Ombudsman makes a number of recommendations, which I have accepted,” the commissioner said in the statement issued Wednesday evening.

“In the report from the Ombudsman it is recommended that a discipline investigation should be initiated against one officer for his actions at the scene of the arrest of one of the offenders, and that a number of policies should be reviewed, updated or introduced. All of the recommendations made by the Ombudsman have been accepted and tasked to a Deputy Commissioner for necessary attention and report,” he added.

See a summary of the ombudsman’s report in the CNS Library.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    8:10 your post is disgusting you need to know the details-

    This is what the police are doing to the youth in Cayman trying to create a criminal record for the Caymanian youth..

    The youth in Cayman deserve better

  2. Anonymous says:

    People who break the law should be thrown in jail period! This soft touch liberal way of dealing with criminals is disgusting! Until they are affected personally is when they demand action. Hypocrites!

  3. Anonymous says:

    This chase went on for about an hour and yet the only person who may face discipline is the lowest denominator ie PC.
    What about the supervisors on duty who hid, took no control and totally failed to supervise.
    The RCIPS has many hard working and committed PC’s unfortunately the supervisors are a disgrace and most would probably not even pass the entrance exam in the U.K. let alone be promoted.
    The RCIPS need to identify potential supervisors and not pay lip service to CIG

  4. Anonymous says:

    It sounds like the RCIPS decided to terminate the file before referring to the DPP for a review. It’s also likely they sought evidence that no longer existed, or lacked the metadata savvy to understand how digital images are dated and geotagged now. I’ve experienced similar resistance from the Police on a number of files which involved connected Caymanians, and it is strange how it drags out and fizzles. Sometimes they’ll sit on a file for months, pretending they aren’t on shift, just to let the 6 months expire on making charges. Sometimes they’ll just ostrich themselves. It’s pretty awful for those seeking justice here. Familiarity and application of our laws is weak from both RCIPS and DPP, even at senior levels – self-evident just driving around here. Consequently we all have an understandably low expectation of “stable” means, and the police and crooks are happy with that.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Why does the CoP have to agree to an internal investigation?!?

  6. Anonymous says:

    Crime remains stable on all sides.

  7. Bambi says:

    Lol, pathetic response from the Commissioner who years ago stated that strong-arm tactics will not work to solve the biker problem. Well he’s had 3 years from 2017 when he made that statement to correct the problem using his unique tea and cookie approach… How has that worked out for you Mr. Commissioner? These bikers you are dealing with are not reasonable, nor responsible, nor sensible people – otherwise they wouldn’t be terrorizing the citizens of these islands. Clearly your “soft” approach in dealing with the criminals hasn’t worked well at all. Perhaps you ought to pick up needlework and let real men do the work. To abandon your officers for doing their job under extremely difficult circumstances is not only pathetic but a complete disgrace.

    • Bert says:

      Yea Bambi,you would prefer Police brutality style of Policing.we in Cayman definately dont need a Police state mentality,To further make it be about we against them.Dont you see whats happening world over.what we need is more local Police,who better understand the people..I have seen the attitude of some of the foreign Police,they bring a style that is very disrespectful.I can speak from experience.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Thanks Mr Byrne,, please accept the way your officers treated people during the curfew-

    Arresting a young man because he was wearing jeans he was hand cuffed placed in the back of a police car taken to the station where he waited for hours then he was finger printed mug shot taken DNA taken then placed on a 3 month bail- charges suspicion of breach of curfew for wearing jeans

    This treatment to the youth in Cayman is abuse of power- Alden where are you???????

    • Anonymous says:

      I am guessing its not the jeans wearing – its claiming you are out driving during soft curfew when its not you name day, and claiming you were on the way to do physical exercise (whilst wearing jeans). The rest of it – the cop shop, the fingerprints, the photo , the DNA swipe – all absolutely standard for anyone who gets arrested.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Its about time RCIPS is held to account.

  10. Anonymous says:

    So they arrested us for breaking a curfew charged people and locked us in our homes. Making us criminals if we go for a walk or to the beach.

    But when a public nuisance and dangerous road user to themselves or others gets in fracis they police take it laying down.


  11. BTC says:

    Terrible decision. After the recommendation, the Police Commissioner ought to have personally reviewed the tape, spoken to the police officers involved, and come up with his own conclusions of whether this warranted further investigating. From what I can see, the criminal was not fully subdued and was still struggling on the ground – this in turn required further police action. Even if there was some doubt, you give the benefit of doubt to the police officer, not the criminal. Way to stand by your men Mr. Byrne. Shameful and disgraceful. The only thing this will do is embolden the criminal element on the islands to be even more reckless and aggressive.

  12. Anonymous says:

    Law abiding public does not.

  13. Anonymous says:

    What Batman does in the dark will come to light

  14. Anonymous says:

    Oh great now everybody will get away with everything around here. What ever happened to respect for authority? If a criminal is told to stop then they should or else?

  15. Anonymous says:

    Anyone else fooled?

  16. Coverup says:

    Well I’m not accepting the Police Commissioner’s comment that there will be no prosecution of the Health Minister’s wife without giving any reason.

    • Anonymous says:

      Completely agree. Don’t just treat the public as if we don’t require reasons. If there is an explanation, then let’s hear it.

    • Anonymous says:

      It isn’t the COP’s decision, it is the decision of the DPP. So it is them all concerns and queries need to be directed.

      • Anonymous says:

        It is however his remit to investigate and collect evidence, as has been mentioned many times, the images contain data that time stamps them, and usually includes the place. Where’s the interview of the Minister’s wife, or asking her for the trainers name and interviewing him? If the police (intentionally?) give the DPP an inconclusive investigation there’s not much the DPP can do, but if he failed to go through the motions of an investigation he could be held to account. Unfortunately you can’t be convicted of being rubbish at your job.

    • Anonymous says:

      They will say “not in the public’s interest” to pursue charging the Ministers wife… whatever that means !

  17. Anonymous says:

    If it is true that an officer ran up to man who had already been arrested, and was being restrained, and struck him unlawfully with a truncheon, will there be an arrest for assault?

    • Anonymous says:

      Given that unlawfully hitting a law abiding woman in a bar does not result in an immediate arrest, I cannot see how that could be the case.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Someone videos a rank and file police officer doing something that looks like a breach of the law, the Ombudsman investigates and recommends action and the RCIPS complies. Someone else videos someone apparently breaking the curfew regulations, the RCIPS investigates, announces that a file has been sent to the DPP, then says no action is being taken. Spot the difference.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Thankfully, the commissioner has sense. You cannot gain the trust of the public if officers do not follow the procedures and policies!

  20. Anonymous says:

    At last the commisioner accepts that his fine bunch of officers can do wrong too. Is this officer also going to be arrested,charged and dismissed as well?

  21. Anonymous says:

    All over the world, where the cops have to expend energy via car chase, physical chase and/or resisting arrest, you can see how much more angry they are and use more strength when taking them down.
    Just watch ANY cop show where the cameras are following them. Obviously all of those shows we have access to here are from the US so they get all the blame but trust me, this happens everywhere.

    • Anonymous says:

      C.H.i.Ps always did good , rescuing stranded girls on the Freeway, while still catching the baddies and no Violence , all by moto cycle . I loved C.H.iP.s.

      • Anonymous says:

        So did we all. But C.H.I.P.s has now become a sloppy, greasy masonic mess.

      • Anonymous says:

        The car crashes were epically violent, with surf boards flying through windows etc. We knew it was bad when Ponch and John had to look away aghast.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yea unfortunately. But shouldn’t.

  22. Anonymous says:

    I’m not sure why a high speed ground pursuit is ever necessary where there is a helicopter fluttering overhead with thermal cameras and support crew. RCIPS need to learn how to use their expensive toys instead of crashing them.

    • Anonymous says:

      So you want the helicopter to land on the bike?

    • Anonymous says:

      And you need to sharpen your low IQ brain a bit more.

      • Anonymous says:

        Every law is for the criminal yhats why is so.many if them I. Cayman. We my brother an I pay 2800 ci to cayman company for 3 garage doors and never never dud anything about it . We went to.Police an they said it was nothing that they could do about it. A few weeks later a inspection said he was going thru the files. And assured us he would call him an tell him to give our money back or he would be arrested, that’s been over 6 months and nothing was done, no money back and no arrest, seems in Cayman the criminals has all the rights . Law abiding folks has no rights

      • Anonymous says:

        That’s ironic.

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