Premier: No mass grants for PR

| 24/06/2017 | 91 Comments

(CNS): Premier Alden McLaughlin said there will be no mass grants as a result of the backlog of pending applications for permanent residency. The Caymanian Status and Permanent Residency Board (CSPR) began reviewing applications again this week after the process was stalled for more than three years, and the chairperson, Waide DaCosta, revealed that just one applicant from the first ten was granted permanent residency. While two applications from this first ten were withdrawn by the applicants, another two were deferred for more information and five were refused. 

With mounting concerns among the local community that the more than 1,000 applicants waiting for their cases to be considered would all be given PR, which in most cases would ultimately lead to Caymanian status, the premier said this was not the case.

“The early number should serve to assure the public that PR applications are being carefully considered and that there will be no mass grants; only those applications that meet the requirements in legislation are being approved,” McLaughlin said in a release from government.

The chief officer in the new immigration ministry, Wesley Howell, said he appreciated the efforts of the board to make the plan to address the problem a reality, as he thanked the members and the chairman.

“The board takes their role very seriously and their goal is to consider the applications as quickly as possible, while ensuring that each is properly reviewed and given the consideration it deserves,” he told the public, pointing out that the board deals with numerous other residency and status applications unrelated to PR applicants.

However, there is an increasing number of PR applications from work permit holders who have resided in the Cayman Islands for more than eight years and are therefore entitled by law to make an application. This was creating a problem for the board even before the courts determined the point system for the jobs held by applicants was unfair, which has led to the process stalling from the end of last year to now and more than 1000 people and their dependents being in limbo regarding their rights to live and work in Cayman.

The problem government now faces is that all of the applicants that submitted their applications in 2013 or 2014 have been resident on island for more than ten years. This raises a legal question mark about refusing any of these applications. Most legal experts believe that if any of those applicants chose to challenge the refusals in the courts, they would be likely to win, which would set a precedent for most of the outstanding applicants and, despite the premier’s reassurances, lead to a mass grant.

Meanwhile, a group of local activists have begun a campaign to stop the process and to refuse all of the applicants, with a view to allowing them to reapply sometime in the future after all currently unemployed Caymanians and this year’s high school and college graduates have found work. They are now collecting signatures from registered voters to trigger a people-initiated referendum (PIR).

But on Thursday, they raised concerns with Deputy Governor Franz Manderson that civil servants and public sector workers were being bullied and intimidated into not signing the petition.

In email correspondence between the civil service boss and the campaign organisers, Manderson referred them to the policy regarding public servants and petitions. In short, that allows non senior and non-related government employees to sign petitions for PIRs, which in this case would block those working at both the ministry of immigration and the department but should not impact registered voters in most other government agencies.

He also advised that all public sector workers can check with their immediate supervisor if they feel in doubt about their role and whether it would conflict with them signing any petition. Manderson did not respond to the allegations that civil servants are being intimidated by their government bosses into not signing, even when they believe the constitution and the code of conduct permits them to do so.

The activists claim that unless these accusations of intimidation are addressed, “it is doubtful that anyone will …consult with their line management”, as they have already been warned against participation. They have called on Manderson to make his position clear by sending out an internal memo or reminder that “intimidation, obstruction or conspiracy to defeat any government employee’s constitutional rights will not be tolerated”, but it is not clear if the deputy governor will do more than circling the policy.

There are, however, a catalogue of  problems for government and the campaigners in this case, including the timeline and the constitutional legality, even if the law was changed, over the rights of long-term residents to be protected. If the campaigners can get 5,107 voters to sign their petition, they can press for a referendum. But if the referendum then succeeds, the law would have to change to meet their request, which would then raised further constitutional questions as the legitimate rights and lawful expectation of the work permit holders would be undermined.

In the end, the courts will be the place where the myriad problems created by the legislative changes to the PR points process in 2013 will be decided.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    Thank you premier!!!!! Don’t give away no more of YOUR land son.

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  2. Anonymous says:

    Does Cayman have a chipping industry that we do not know about – one that requires expatriate / immigrant manpower as it cannot be met by the local population?

    Only that could explain the many chips on shoulders round here nowadays.

    Bless ’em.

    These are the same people that would vote for Trump and Brexit in their home countries in a flash.

    Foh – hypocrites.

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  3. Anonymous says:

    That is well and dandy to integrate, eat, drink and work together but the truth is you want to live here permanently too and take over. You are guests only so learn your place and be respectful of this fact. No matter what you do here we don’t owe you that. We don’t owe you anything. You benefit working here in the sun as much as we benefit the businesses that are here so don’t go throwing that in our faces all the time. It is you that must adjust to our culture not for you to come and give the rules. Again you are guests, transient people who come and go who we don’t care about having you stay on.

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  4. Anonymous says:

    I’m a lucky one who received my PR under one of the first point systems. I felt and still feel honored that this small country accepted me to live in their beautiful country. I lived here for many years understanding that I was a guest and may have to leave anytime a Caymanian needed my job.
    I truly don’t understand the gall of expatriates effectively demanding citizenship.

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    • Anonymous says:

      It’s the fact that your life is effectively in limbo, while the government breaks the rules in not telling you in a time appropriate manner if you entitled to stay or not, so in the meantime, you invest years of your life in a country and economy which may not keep you. It’s a nightmare, but you hold out hoping that the government doesn’t turn their back on you after you played by the rules for the 9+ years that they asked you to.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Shame poor puppy. You came here knowing full well that year to year your work could be taken by a Caymanian yet you came here with that known risk that you could be without a job and have 2 weeks to leave. That is living in limbo isn’t it. The whole way of life here is not guaranteed and if you want that you in the wrong place! So you hung in limbo but you not complaining about the 4 extra years you were given to have a tax free salary or the fact if you were told to go you can still get your pension. So no you have no losses only gains. So stop complaining and whining. You buy a house and invest at your own risk whether you have PR or not. Perhaps a lesson for you to not nest in someone else’s country it is not yours to do so. If you don’t like that then go home and near there where you won’t be kicked out at any given notice and you have all the rights in the world.

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        • Anonymous says:

          Very well put…I’m sick of life in limbo bs. No one held them here. There was always a chance that they could get kicked off…more of them probably would have if Alden had applied the immigration rules instead of ignoring them for the last 4 years.

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          • Anonymous says:

            I’m actually not one of the ones waiting on PR, I can just empathize with their situation.

    • Anonymous says:

      Now imagine a world where millions of ILLEGALS demand a right to stay and utilize public services in the USA and you’ll understand the frustration of USA citizens. PR applicants, however, have followed the law here in Cayman and the law has been stymied by politicians.

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  5. Slacker says:

    “The board takes their role very seriously and their goal is to consider the applications as quickly as possible…”

    Next time my boss asks me for a report, I will say it will get done “as quickly as possible” and provide it three years later.

    I sense a big promotion.

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  6. Anonymous says:

    Alden must do something to undo the damage he has caused. He removed the roll-over and now he will be effectively granting status to 3-4% (ignoring the immediate and ultimate rights of family of applicants) or our population. His liberal work permit policy saw the return of well known and slimy machinations of employers to exclude Caymanian applicants. I hope some of the other members of his coalition government will somehow show him the harm he is causing his people.

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  7. Anonymous says:

    It makes me so very sad to see the amount of xenophobic comments here. You have all turned so hateful in your thoughts and words. It is like holding onto a hot piece of coal and wondering why you got burnt. Expats will read these comments and react accordingly. They will not reinvest their money in the economy, they will not help out in the community, they will not do anything to benefit the islands or it’s people. Instead they will take all they can and leave because it’s what the Caymanians want…..isn’t it?

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    • Bobby says:

      Oh please. The majority of expatriate workers on this island, particularly the professionals in the financial industry, are only concerned about their own well being already. No comment left here will change that. They are not concerned with Caymanians nor have they ever been. These are the expats in a position of power and in a position to encourage the hiring of qualified Caymanians into their own organizations, but they refuse to do so. They instead find ways to exclude Caymanians from their hiring processes while at the same time finding ways to include expats. I’ve seen expats in management positions in the financial industry exclude Caymanian applicants for not having enough education or not having enough experience, and then turn around and encourage the hiring of an expat that didn’t meet the required level of education or experience either. If you are going to live and work here and purchase property and build businesses and educate your kids here, don’t you have some responsibility for the social and economic well being of the people living here? The same locals that you expats exclude from the work force now will be the same locals breaking into your houses because they can’t feed their kids or pay their mortgages. And by the way, these are the same expats that come from the privileged class in their own home countries(i.e., white). They are the same ones that look down on minorities and want to exclude immigrants from opportunities back home, then they come here and don’t accept that they are now the immigrant. The vast majority of educated professional expatriates in this country want their privilege to travel with them. You don’t have to be a genius to figure that out.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Well said Bobby.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Cos you’re so concerned about their welfare aren’t you? This is not expat selfishness it is human nature.

        The fact is that the Islands’ economy is dependent on having foreign labour fill in our gaps and not having any progressive right of abode over the long term would hinder the attraction/retention of the best talent.

        You may think this doesn’t matter or it’s a big bluff by the business community. That doesn’t make it so and you are gambling with your own and your children’s economic security by calling it.

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        • Anonymous says:

          I’m not sure we want to grant eventual citizenship to greedy, self-centered, and ungrateful people. The big business bluff has been going on for decades…in truth you aren’t that important to you company so get over yourself.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Preach it Brother Bobby.

        – Who

      • The Truth says:

        You don’t have to be white to be privileged. You can be privileged and non-white and vice versa.

      • Anonymous says:

        I agree with most of your comments except there are plenty of poor whites (millions) who have been displaced by mass immigration in the first world. Some even ended up in Cayman. Also your beliefs would suggest that whites should be privileged in their home countries if you want the same for caymanians in theirs.

    • Anonymous says:

      Possibly out of convenience you seem to be reading only the Caymanian comments. Try also reading the comments of the less than grateful expatriates who refuse to acknowledge our wish for some entitlement and security in our own country. There will always be expatriates willing to come without any expectation of citizenship.

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  8. Anonymous says:

    Alden will shortly need to answer on how the ignoring of these warehouses of applications for years has helped “us”? What did his regime determine were the advantages of defying this legal process, and suspending it on his instruction, and did those reasons outweigh the cost to the public from legal settlements and 10 year de facto right of abode claims? I very much doubt his math on this.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Cayman does not need to comply with right of abode.

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    • Anonymous says:

      It was suspended as a result of the Chief Justice ruling that the system was arbitrary and unfair, idiot.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Those working the system always knew it was arbitrary and unfair. The politicians were told it was arbitrary and unfair. Immigration was told it was arbitrary and unfair. Everyone ignored the obvious, willfully and deliberately, and as usual, there is no accountability.

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  9. Anonymous says:

    Alden has as much chance of fairly resolving the PR backlog as he does solving the dump disaster. He is in over his head.

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  10. Anonymous says:

    1) Return all applicants fees and bon voyage. You got 4 years extra on island on top of 9 yrs equals 13 yrs you were lucky. Count your blessings.
    2) Change the law to be 7 year rollover and you can return after 2 years away for another 7 years. Max roll over is 3x7yrs and then no more.
    3) No more PR status applications. Those that have it again are lucky but no more will get it. As another poster says the Caymanian people are just 14 000.
    4) To avoid inbreeding as another poster stated these rules will encourage foreigners to then marry locals which will increase the gene pool and avoid inbreeding and they get permanent residency that way only. Win win for both sides.
    5) However to avoid abuse of point 4) the marriage should be real and strict rules of proof should be applied just like the USA to say it is genuine love and not for a right to stay on island.
    6) Points 4) and 5) will ensure more solidity and intergration n of community between expats and locals as well.
    7) Those who complained about skilled labor and clients over 9 yrs, people on average don’t stay longer in jobs than 5 yrs to diversify their experience so that argument is not valid.
    8) Those who complain about the education of locals, mixed marriages will lift the locals up to a higher standard and bar to the benefit of their children they will have a mixed culture and benefits of both.
    9) For those who say they want their application reviewed you will have your fees returned. No one is under obligation to give you PR just because you applied. You still got more time on island even if your application had been rejected so you should have no complaint. Take your pension and your money and go. If you want to return you can in 2 years.

    Lastly to all expats change your attitude of being better than the locals you are not. You are their guests and if I had guests who disrespected me and called me names I would send you to the street without any guilt.

    Locals and government raise your standard of education so that the ammunition that the expats use of not being good enough to work can be eliminated and everyone is on even ground.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Good luck trying to get foreigners wanting to marry your xenophobic ass!

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    • Anonymous says:

      Better yet, don’t come to Cayman in the first place. It’s not expat friendly and you all but lose every human right you had previously. There’s more to life than sunshine and beaches!

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      • Anonymous says:

        Really then why so desperate to live here for our sunshine and tax free salaries? Don’t get that at home hence you here!

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    • Anonymous says:

      So what you are saying is that you would rather import poverty than allow those with Education and Drive to stay on island to assist with the economy…sound like you studied hard in school

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    • Anonymous says:

      caymankind….

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    • Anonymous says:

      How you treat your guest matters also. If you invite a guest to stay with you but then tell them when they arrive they must leave in a few days how do you think they would feel. If you invited your guests and told them they could only stay if they divorced their spouse to marry your cousin how do you think they would respond.

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      • Anonymous says:

        aaah yes normally a guest implies they stay for a certain amount of time and not permanently. How would you like it if you invited friends over from the States to stay with you in Cayman and they decide they like it so much they will stay on in your home, eat all your food, not pay rent and you struggle to put food on the table and to pay rent while they feel entitled to stay on regardless of how you feel. Family stay indefinitely, guests do not.

    • Anonymous says:

      Point 1 – Agree
      Point 2 – Could be 1 year. Why 2? Secondly why max it out at 3 lots of 7? Why not just roll it on and on?
      Point 4 – Caymanians dont seem to seem to keen to intermarry from what I’ve seen and known.
      Point 5 – Its archaic the way the state gets up in anyone’s business. Who cares as long as no immigrant is on the public purse. There is a repatriation fee. Maybe increase that.
      Point 7 – I would say alot of these expats job hop after 3 years and I have seen many come here with zero experience and knowledge of funds/finance and job hop their way up the ladder.
      Point 9 – 2 years is too long just make it one year and make it so that immigration might make it easier on the returning expat.

  11. Anonymous says:

    I think the courts will end up having to force mass approvals. Because of the government failure to act in the past.

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    • Anonymous says:

      No ones hand needs to be forced. This is their country. Yes they failed but they can rectify it by returning the fees paid and changing the law.

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      • Anonymous says:

        No they can’t. If someone applied under the law in 2014 it is the 2014 law that applies, that precedent has been established.

        It couldn’t be any other way. Imagine a law that applied retroactively and made something you did last year illegal? That’s not fair.

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  12. Anonymous says:

    If you are not going to approve them at least do the right thing and reject soon so they can get their pension money to start over somewhere else… or is that the real reason behind the delay.

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  13. Anonymous says:

    Read my lips.
    ROTFLMAO.

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  14. Anonymous says:

    Well, there you have it. Whenever a politician says there will be no more xxxxxxxxx, you can guarantee that precisely the opposite will happen.

    No more taxes.
    No more war.
    No more gun crime.
    No more unemployment.
    No more corruption.
    No more price gouging for gasoline etc, ad nauseam.

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  15. Fred says:

    10 in a week. Better speed up or it will take forever given there are 250 new ones a year. Or have they carefully selected the 10 to reassure the xenophobes?

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  16. Sharkey says:

    I think that the matters of Caymanians rights and Civil Servants rights should be decided by a Constitutional Judge and Lawyers, and not by Mr McLaughlin and Mr Manderson.

    Can we imagine if all Civil Servants were Caymanian with no Constitutional rights to object or agree with anything that would jeopardize the Islands future. That would be taking a lot of Caymanian voices away, if all Civil Servants had to live under Civil Servants rules, then that would be very sad.

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  17. Anonymous says:

    The economic reality that we don’t want to accept is the fact that Cayman does not need any more permanent residents.

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    • Anonymous says:

      It’s true. In time, Caymanians and those who have gained the right to live here permanently and their descendants will become the permanent population of the country. We could have the population of Barbados if we chose to have the population density of Bermuda, but we aren’t going to do that. Especially not with one third of the land mass being protected environmental area. The last boats to Cayman are in fact arriving now in the form of these applications over the next few years. It’s only going to get more difficult. These 1,000 are lucky to have the chance, though the wait they have had is indefensible.

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    • Anonymous says:

      the economic reality is that cayman cannot survive without expats!

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      • Anonymous says:

        Yes so give expats work permits not PR or status. Cayman works just fine with rollover on work permits for expats and expats benefit earning a tax free salary so all parties benefit. PR has nothing to do with Cayman working or not.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Which expats. Much of the drain on our services comes from particular groups of expats.

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      • Anonymous says:

        I dare say that’s the economic reality everywhere in the world….seems that everywhere you go expats were imported for cheap labour, investment purposes, re-integration of society etc…

        So, it’s not unique to Cayman that we need expats…

        However, I would prefer if we could continue to harbor the best the world has to offer, not the lowest…as we already have our own home-grown rubbish to deal with!

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  18. Cyril says:

    Rubbish about having to grant PR because applicants have lived here for 10 years. Any legal expert that says that is simply an ambulance chaser.

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  19. Anonymous says:

    Sounds like a whole lot of cost through the courts. The better option is to return the fees already paid and reject all applicants for the sake of the Caymanian’s plight. Those fees will be made up by new work permit fees of their replacement. Change the law to 7 yr rollover again with 3 year gap if you want to return and no PR applications in future. Those who applied can return again if they want. The only way to get PR is through marriage to a Caymanian which solves the inbreeding dilemma the islands face. But through that course stringent criteria and proof of relationship should exist like USA.

    If this doesn’t appeal then review the applications but take only just the very top 100 scores. Those which are truly rejected don’t get refunds that that did make it will get a refund.

    The rule was silly to begin with to open Pandora’s box to allow all to apply. Of course there would be huge overhead in admin and processing on top of work permits. Even with the score system not everyone will get it right which is a lot of time wasting.

    Alternative too is to go on Australia immigration policy and see what the gap of professionals or jobs in Cayman are that locals don’t want and advertise those for a work permit. The rest of the jobs should be to Caymanian’s to fill. The only way for them to get experience is to give them an opportunity, they will not always be graduates.

    Raise education standards in school as well so they can compete properly with foreigners and not be seen as second rate.

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    • Anonymous says:

      I think a very weak area is that of IT. We import IT workers that are just PC savvy and equal to that of many young Caymanians. It is a discipline that can be learned quickly and locally, no overseas experience necessary.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Don’t agree. IT is skilled and specialized. You not learning word or excel and yes worldly experience is necessity especially for servers when you in a hurricane zone. Businesses are dependent on experienced workers especially in an emergency to know what to do, that is not something that can be taught or shown it is a matter of experience in your field. It is a joke you think you can support IT and it is an easy subject it is not. Study it properly then you in a position to take a job in IT

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    • 100 likes for this post! says:

      Premier, I know you are reading this.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Your reasoning would ensure Caymanians extinction.

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      • Anonymous says:

        The only extinction that would occur is the take over if foreigners and their families and spouses who will outnumber Caymanian’s thereby making them extinct.

        How is my proposal making them extinct?

        Foreigners love the Cayman Islands and if all they get is 7 yrs tax free with the option to return they will take it over nothing. They don’t get nice weather and tax free salaries in their home country. But the old pension law should be reinstated to allow them to take their money after 2 years still.

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        • Anonymous says:

          10.41 you miss my point entirely…you cant be bothered to educate your kids properly (a good proportion of them), they know nothing, want everything, resort to drugs, guns and crime and breeding of a bunch of kids that might actually sort this mess out as they have the brains to do so is not even on the horizon. You will become extinct, by your own hand.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Australia has imported 1 million people into Melbourne over the past 12 years without a corresponding increase infrastructure.What was once a great country is turning into an overpopulated dump. Australia is not the immigration policy you want to emulate. There is the same nonsense in Australia with supposed skills shortages. The Australians train their replacements and in turn are laid off. There it is quite blatant. There was supposed skills shortages for hairdressers and web developers. The reality was to stagnate wages, increase the number of consumers and push the house bubble a little higher.

  20. Andrea Calderon says:

    I say go to Court to get this solved if the Premier’s decision does not occur! Take it to Privy Council in England!! We cannot be railroaded in our own country! Our Country has been sold out fro under us technically! Everything benefits the foreigner and we the locals get trodden on! Tired of it! Got a most intelligent qualified full blooded Caymanian – no half breed – Caymanian lineage dating back 300 years and can’t get a job but foreighners got job! It should be that applications are sent by registered mail if hand delivered by applicant and signed for by the prospective employee which proof of ‘service/application’ with a copy ti Work Permit Board who will deny the work permit when it’s up for renewal – if better yet instruct employer to give permit holder the appropriate notice as set out in the law and then confirm the caymanian’s appointment ! Nothing illegal but just a case if looking after our own!

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    • Sounds like Ethnic Cleansing says:

      You should watch Harry Potter, the “mud bloods” make the best wizards!

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    • 100 likes for this post! says:

      We will not be shaken by threat of PR litigation.

      Caymanians will sue for our existing Article 23(1) HUMAN RIGHTS for employment that we already have!

      You are a real patriot, Andrea!

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    • Rp says:

      If Kirky can get a job, all Caymanians can get a job. Clearly experience is overlooked so long as you have a great attitude and you’re willing to learn the job, work hard and show up to work daily without excuses.

      And a couple of more observations.

      The country was sold from underneath us? Who sold it?

      Everything benefits the expat? Who makes and passes laws in our country? Not us?

      Half breed? Surely you must be at least half breed because 300 years ago we only had 100 people on the island if not less. Somewhere down the line your ancestors were half bred.

      Why don’t the unemployed open their own businesses dear? They can do it quickly and don’t need to rely on someone else to feed them a job! You know why? Because many (not all) don’t have any marketable skills! Those who have marketable skills eventually get jobs if they are willing to work hard.

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  21. Anonymous says:

    Maybe that stupid petition will be stopped now.

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  22. anonymous says:

    Jobs for Caymanians first has got to be the main consideration.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Do you really believe that every Caymanian who wants a job can’t get one? Or maybe they are really all not qualified to be Managing directors

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  23. The vocal minority! says:

    A bigger problem, and where great emphasis needs to be focused is what are we doing nationally and strategically to absorb the 600 high school students who graduate each year!
    They have an even larger vested interest in the future of these Islands than OR applicants.

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  24. Anonymous says:

    Nice try Alden, boy. But due to your mendacity and incompetence it is not your decision – the courts will sort out your pathetic mess.

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  25. Anonymous says:

    So Mr. Premier. 10 a week? 2 years just to get through those that have already been filed?

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  26. Anonymous says:

    Raise the bar on Cayman Status from 15 to 25 years. This would prevent the current lot from immediately applying for Status after have waited 4 years for PR.

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    • Anonymous says:

      your real estate professionals won’t be happy. your rental properties owners won’t be happy.

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      • Anonymous says:

        The rental property folks will be incredibly happy as there will always be more expats wanting to live and work in the Caribbean and not pay taxes. As long as there is no reporting to foreign governments on real estate holdings and no property taxes our real estate market will do just fine.

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    • Anonymous says:

      But many have already started trying to grow a tail.

  27. Anonymous says:

    Playing politics. More than likely cherry picked a few applications to turn down with the view to appeasing the masses. Once the hype surrounding the petition dies down a substantial number of the PR applicants will be granted.

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  28. Anonymous says:

    The task of accruing 110 points was never going to be easy. Anyone who thinks the vast majority of the backlog of PR applicants is going to get 110 points, and therefore receive a positive response, has just not read the application notes. I believe the majority of people have applied knowing that their case would be unsuccessful but they got to live in this awesome country for a few more years, tax free. However, IF the legal experts are right about the 10 years then all applicants are going to get it. Even the ones who are applying now. That backlog of cases, with all the ongoing and additional appeals is going to be around for a very long time. The biggest mistake made was to extend the 7 years to 9 years. With the 7 years they had a chance of getting rid of applicants before the 10 years was up. Now you can apply with just a few days or weeks before you hit 9 years, and then you just got to sit it out for one year. Good luck with the referendum.

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    • Anonymous says:

      Plumber: 15 points.
      Decade of experience: 10 points.
      Local Plumbers license: 15 points.
      No investments: 0 points.
      $40,000 annual income: 5 points.
      $2,500 savings: 15 points.
      Participate in church every weekend: 12 points.
      Take test after course which gives you all the answers: 18 points.
      Being Mexican: 10 points.
      Being 35: 10 points.

      110 points.

      Child with woman granted status last year? Add 40.

      Doesn’t seem hard to me.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Nice example. You live in the PERFECT WORLD. Life isn’t like that though. If only it was! 7 maximums and a lovely baby to go with your perfect world.

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  29. Anonymous says:

    I wouldn’t be too discouraged applicants. A sample of 1% can hardly represent the ultimate outcome. I sincerely doubt 20% have withdrawn and further that 40% will be refused. Both supporters and opponents can be assured that more than 10% will be granted.

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    • Anonymous says:

      It will be more than 70%, and you can add two to every one that is granted given spouses and children.

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    Even applying the points system most will get it. Their families will then get it automatically. There will be thousands. There may be no mass grants but there will be grants to masses.

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      “Grants to masses” …..but at least they will be high achieving foreigners with bright well educated children who will eventually take this country out of Anthony’s 17th century into the modern world and who will have the brains and brought up values to lead this country unlike the sex, gang, drug, entitlement youngsters that far far too many Caymanians are producing nowadays.

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        Ummmm, many of the problems you refer to are amongst expatriates. Not your kind, but still expatriates. It is disgusting what has become of Cayman. Thanks Mac.

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        Well that’s a new one. We are “high achieving” as opposed to your Caymanian degenerative “sex, gang, drug, entitlement”. I can add that reason to my collection. ‘We have come to make you better and replace you’. ‘We are a better you’. Do you read this stuff before you post it? I can see why the Caymanians get pissed. I remember the old days when it was “they do the jobs we won’t do” like drive buses as if we didn’t drive them before they arrived. Then it was the “international mass movement of people” like it was the sun rising in the morning, nothing could be done to stop it. Then it became “we need them to grow the economy!”. Yet we were growing poorer if you look at per capita GDP. My favourite is “they have come to enrich us as our food is boring” How many kebab shops can we open and these days I dont see the thousandth kebab shop as enrichment. Now its our ‘population is declining and we need young workers to pay for our retirements”. Which is just a ponzi as you add more workers now you will have more retirees later.

        If Caymanians want to retain their country they would be wise to decline these PR applications. They will be protecting their wages, jobs, standard of living and future opportunity for their young. Businesses won’t leave simply because some mid tier manager gets rolled over. Bring in more people has been the way big business has ruled over the workers since the first stirrings of organized labour. That is why corporate managers and elites invent all these reasons. I would say that the person who wrote the comment is some kind of manager or professional with a massive sense of entitlement and probably came here with little knowledge in their field 10 years ago and have job hopped to success.

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