Cops find no private eyes watching MLAs

| 08/03/2017 | 86 Comments

(CNS): The RCIPS has said investigations into complaints by two independent MLAs that they were being trailed by private investigators cannot be substantiated. In a short statement, the police said that they and the immigration department had investigated the surveillance allegations and had informed the complainants of their findings. The complaints were made by Alva Suckoo and Winston Connolly, who have said they believed local law firms had hired overseas private eyes to follow them to either intimidate or manipulate them over their opposition to the proposed Legal Practitioners Bill.

The RCIPS said the members were “concerned for their personal safety and that of their families arising from information received that they were being followed by private investigators from other jurisdictions”.

But the police added, “We have jointly investigated these complaints with Immigration and have not been able to substantiate that any such surveillance has taken place. The complainants have been fully cooperative with our investigation and have been informed of these findings. Should any further concerns be brought to our attention on this matter they will be duly investigated.”

Suckoo had told his legislative colleagues as the LA adjourned for a short break last week that three private investigators were in Cayman posing as visitors but they were snooping around the independent members opposing the new lawyers law.

“As a matter of national importance, I am therefore requesting that this matter be immediately investigated by the RCIPS, Attorney General’s Office and the immigration department as the actions of these individuals and their clients is a direct threat to the safety and well-being of members of this Honourable Assembly and our families and may constitute the breach of several laws, including the Immigration Law,” Suckoo stated.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    Bring in Sherlock as a consultant. He’ll sort this in no time.

  2. just asking says:

    In 1982 and 2002 it was brought to the attention that once a lawyer now practising cayman law here leaves this jurisdiction to practice Cayman Islands laws overseas it was not legal to. Now the legal professionals and Cayman finance needs to show when it was made legal. If not how much have they made and how much did we lose in annual fees. Just publish it.

  3. Veritas says:

    They must have been aliens from outer space, plenty of sightings all over the world, but no proof they exist.

  4. Anonymous says:

    They want to be impotent, I mean important.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Surely it wouldn’t matter if they were followed by a hundred private detectives – if they have nothing to hide!

  6. Veritas says:

    They were definitely shadowed but only when the sun was ahead of them.

  7. Private Eye says:

    I must be even better at my job that I thought…

  8. Anonymous says:

    The saddest thing about all of this is that there are people here accusing Alva and Winston of making this up. Say what you want when faced with their actions but both of these gentlemen have shown us who they are a long time ago. So yeah there are some things about Winston’s views that irk me. But having obc served both of them and seen how they carry themselves I do not for one second believe that they would make up something like this, especially knowing the seriousness of it. And neither of them has shown any hint of paranoia since taking up office. They have both been steady and level-headed and have both worked hard for us. Some people will want to comment negatively, but I would say you don’t live in Bodden Town and seen the things that Alva has done for his people. Remember that when you are bashing. And remember that it’s easy to His behind anonymous on CNS but how many of us posting negative all the time would actually or could actually do the job. People like to degrade our politicians but the fact is Cayman is a good place and their work helps keep it that way. I don’t hear any of you posters packing your bags to go anywhere!

  9. Anonymous says:

    The MLA’s are fighting for Caymanians. I don’t think for once that the minister has the least concern about Caymanians. I believe he is only concerned about his friends in high places. Hats off to Arden and Winston. I listen to Mr. Steve McField the other morning on the talk show and agree 100 percent with his comments on this matter. Mr. Panton could learn a lot from this great man.

  10. Unison says:

    Could it be that they are really being spied on, but these spies are professionals, so they left no footprints? …

    It is easy to join the crowd and say these MLAs don’t know what they are talking about. It is immature to make them into your laughing stalk! If you have the sense of being followed, bugged, or watched, trust me, you will know something is wrong, and you can’t rely on the Police to prove it either

    • Anonymous says:

      Could it? Yes. Is it reasonable to think this with the lack of evidence to support these claims? No. Nothing more than a witch hunt.

      • Inspector Clouseau says:

        Elvis Ebanks who was arrested on corruption charges some time ago never knew for a minute that a sting was in place to arrest him at county side. He never knew one thing. Most caymanians never knew until after the fact that scotland yard officers and MI6 operatives were here during operation tempura either. Your government nor it’s police service said what was taking place. Your previous CoP said nothing was missing from the police station when all those drugs were stolen.

        These investigators were driving ci government cars during tempura and you didn’t even know who they were.

        If they sense something isn’t right, leave them and let it be.

        I for one won’t rule it out because it is possible that they were being watched/followed.

        • Anonymous says:

          Nothing more than a witch hunt and for those who believe any of this for a second shows just how gullible you can be.

    • Anonymous says:

      Firstly if they are Private Eyes, I don’t think they would want anyone to know they are following anyone……Secondly, the police can’t even solve their own cases let alone know if someone is following someone lol. Thirdly, Immigration???? do you really think if two people came onto the Island as “Private Eyes” they are going to tell Immigration when they land….

    • Diogenes says:

      Where is the lol button!

    • Anonymous says:

      Exactly, you are 100% accurate.

    • Fred the Piemaker says:

      Maybe they came in on that US air force jet under diplomatic cover – that’s why the police can’t/won’t identify them. Its all part of a wider plot by Trump to destabilise Cayman.

    • Anonymous says:

      they could have special invisibilty suits that only Winston can see

  11. gray matter. says:

    WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO PAY FOR THIS >>>>>> GOAST HUNT, We The People.
    They wont get my VOTE ! or my family or friends>>> and I have a lot of ALL.

  12. Anonymous says:

    For love of God, will a law firm give Winston an offer of employment as a partner? All this fuss could have been made long ago. Why didn’t he stand up against it at the law firm where her worked? Everything is about self interest

    • Anonymous says:

      Or, if he thinks there are so many Caymanians deserving of law firm partnership, round them all up and start their own law firm. I bet it would be awesome. Corner the market in no time.

  13. What a time to be alive says:

    Cmon guys, they’re not that important for PI’s. This is just delusional paranoia from our incompetent MLA’s.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Fake news. They should be ashamed of themselves.

  15. Anonymous says:

    Millions in drugs go missing from their own compound, and you expect these bozo’s to find anything? They couldn’t find their way out of a wet paper-bag, with a baseball bat.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Wow, a PI was not detected while on the job. Shocking

    • Anonymous says:

      oh where is that LOL button…??

    • Diogenes says:

      If he wasn’t identified, how did Alva and Winston know about him? And if he was identified, how come the RCIPS didn’t find any evidence they existed, including the ‘evidence” that Winston and Al provided the RCIPS.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Maybe they should launch an investigation into the Russians

  18. Anonymous says:

    Extraordinary claims — private detectives are following me to dig up dirt– require extraordinary evidence, of which Suckoo and Connolly can produce none, and neither can the RCIPS. The real question here is: Do we really want paranoid conspiracy theorists in the MLA? The current situation in the US would suggest definately not.

  19. Anonymous says:

    What a shock- the RCIPS found nothing… do they ever?

  20. Vote For Me! says:

    A rental car followed me today and i couldn’t give two shits about the Legal Practitioners Bill as it in no way affects 98.7% of the population.

    Where do I file a complaint?

  21. Anonymous says:

    Does anyone really expect RCIPS to find or confirm this or find the alleged perps? They can’t even find who broke into their “secure” facility and stole millions of $$ of drugs and motorcycles!!. In any case, RCIPS will never confirm this as long as HE and the Premier deny that it occurred.

    But seriously, CIG has a major problem with unauthorized covert activities. Unlawful surveillence is happening every day!!

  22. Anonymous says:

    So what? They cannot find illegal tint in their own car park!

    • Fun bring bun says:

      Exactly! I called central to get some information about a burglary of a friend’s apartment recently and it felt like I was talking to an 8 year old. Couldn’t give me ANY information, was speaking patoi, at times I thought I was the only person on the line and had to ask if she was still there….It’s a good thing I lowered my expectations of the RCIPS years ago, coming in with that frame of mind really helped to keep my blood pressure at bay.

      • Anonymous says:

        They shouldn’t be releasing information to a non related party…

        • Fun bring bun says:

          That I can understand, but the owner was off island and asked me to look into it. I wasn’t asking for someones blood type, just what happened, which officer(s) responded and what state the apartment was left in. I’ve had enough experiences with these unskilled stripe wearing jokers to know what im talking about.

  23. satirony says:

    It’s Trump’s influence, with his tedious smoke and mirrors deceptions, as in, ‘Obama wire-tapped my offices in Trump Tower’. (Yawn!)

    • Anonymous says:

      And the paranoia that produces. It doesn’t affect me at all, except for that Ching Ching that follows me and gives me the evil eye.

  24. Anonymous says:

    Keep in the mind this is the same RCIPS that couldn’t find a large van with huge letters “POLICE” splashed on the side for many months.

    Also the very same RCIPS that has found no trace of the ganja taken from their secure compound.

    Just another day in Absurdistan.

  25. Anonymous says:

    I’m sure if there were actually trained private eyes hired that they would be professional enough to catch wind of local media headlines and back off…

    Proceed with the bread and circuses…

  26. Anonymous says:

    Because the police cannot find proof does not mean it is not true. It has happened before. Winston and Al stay on guard and never mind the naysayers.

    • Anonymous says:

      I am intrigued 9.59, if they were suspicious, where are the photos or films of the alleged followers for RCIPs to investigate? The car registration numbers? Or are they too dumb to do that, or maybe, just maybe…there is an election coming and they have no chance of getting in without some kind of stupidity going on? I suspect you believe that cats are infiltrators from Mars, and iguanas are Russian controlled. Therapy is possible, I am told.

    • Jotnar says:

      Just because Winston and Al say they exist doesn’t mean that they do, either. What is more concerning is that you can apparently make an allegation that someone is hiring PIs to follow you and interfere in the consideration of legislation for vested interest, demand a police investigation having already made the allegation public, then face absolutely no sanction when they cannot produce any evidence that the PIs even exist.

    • Anonymous says:

      Winston posting as ‘Anonymous’ again

  27. A says:

    That is because there no one is following them. These fools believe their own hype. No one really cares about you guys. Your ultimately insignificant. Like your government, island, and so called laws.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hope you are not living here!!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Before drawing a conclusion so quickly, it’s also easy to point out that the RCIPS have a number of crimes (including murders and robberies) that remain unsolved. I would therefore be slow to draw a conclusion like yours.

    • Rod Bodden says:

      Well when you are in your country and not this one! Your statement would have meaning!

    • Anonymous says:

      paranoiads or pare of noids

  28. anon says:

    Clowns!

  29. JTB says:

    Well colour me shocked …

    What can it possibly mean?

    Obviously our MLAs are too ‘honourable’ to have been flying a kite

  30. Anonymous says:

    And how did they do that? LOL

  31. Anonymous says:

    Hahahaha That picture though

  32. Anonymous says:

    Do you think the police wanted to do this, as ever it is about who you are

  33. Anonymous says:

    Hypothetically, even if there were paparazzi or private eyes watching their public activity, I don’t understand what law would have been broken to activate a police response. It’s not illegal to be in a public place where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. Can anyone please point to the law that would have been violated?!?

    • Anonymous says:

      The laws on assault may apply here.

      http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Assault+and+Battery

      Assault is an act that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent, harmful, or offensive contact. The act consists of a threat of harm accompanied by an apparent, present ability to carry out the threat.

      • Anonymous says:

        Lol. Given some of the very public case history here, I doubt the Cayman Islands (or anywhere else) shares such a robust definition of “assault”. What’s the detainable charge? “Assault” causing “what” exactly? Creepiness? Heebie-jeebies?

    • Anonymous says:

      Immigration Law – employment without a work permit.
      Trade and Business Licensing Law – operating a trade or business without being licensed.
      Local Companies (Corntol) Law – failing to have 60% Caymanian ownership and control without a license
      Penal Code – Fraud etc. for lying to immigration officials and entering pretending to be tourists.
      Proceeds of Crime Law – Money laundering.

      That should provide you with something to chew on.

      • Anonymous says:

        11:17 And there’s at least one local security company with a number of ex-cops on their staff who could have been doing the work.

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh dear 11.17, so all the business people who come as visitors for a few days to see their advisors and organize their multimillion contracts that give employment on this fair land (as happens all over the world) are illegal too and need work permits? Get a life..if they are not employed locally they need nada, zilch…

      • Anonymous says:

        Seems moot since two of the Island’s law enforcement agencies didn’t find any evidence… other than these two clowns are drinking for Trump’s golden spicket.

  34. Surprise says:

    Many many wrongdoers slip through the hands of the Rcips. Did we really think they would catch individuals trained to evade ? Come on now! I hope these guys use privaledge and expose everyone

  35. Anonymous says:

    ah geez…hear that flapping Alva/Winston?…that would be your credibility flying out the window.

    • Anonymous says:

      I don’t think so. I think theres millions or billions at stake here for these firms and I wouldn’t put anything past them!

      • Anonymous says:

        That’s true, it’s a stake because you have babbling know-knothing morons making threats to an entire industry

  36. Anonymous says:

    Instead of pandering to these delusional and embarrassing muppets, and legitimising obviously ridiculous claims, the police would be better served attending to real people who are exposed to real criminality everyday.
    This pathetic attempt at deflecting their own inadequacy is a disgrace and unless they can turn up any extra proof, besides their own paranoia, then they should be charged with wasting police time and making false allegations. These are attention seekers of the worst kind and they should be punished.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hmmm….interesting response; sounds like you think these people should be “silenced”.

      What sort of punishment were you thinking of?

    • Anonymous says:

      The fact that the local police did not find the alleged Private Investigators does NOT guarantee that they do not exist. Many, of the local “police investigations” are solved by the public anyhow, in the absence of an outright confession– the police just take the credit for it. I guess the P.I.’s did not feel up to a confession this weekend. Unfortunately, the general consensus on the Island is that the police spend more time energy and attention grooming themselves, and maintaining and protecting their appearance, than in actually investigating crimes…. which, you understand, might involve getting sweaty and dirty.
      It must be tough moving from air conditioned office to air conditioned car, day after day, trying to avoid breaking a sweat.

      • Anonymous says:

        We have your name and number 9.24 🙂
        However we lost the first and couldn’t read the writing on the last.

      • Fred says:

        Absolutely right. The fact that the police didn’t find the alleged suspects doesn’t exclude the possibility they exist. But it also doesn’t exclude the possibility that the allegation is a complete crock either. Even if we had the best police service in the world how would they be able to prove the existence of a fantasy? You are happy to say – admittedly given their track record – that the police are not completely reliable, but happy to say that we should assume that the MLAs are telling the truth even tho they cannot provide any concrete evidence?

        • Anonymous says:

          It boils down to no evidence to support these parnoid MLA claims. There is no private investigator, just parnoid delusional MLA’s.

      • Whistle blower says:

        It is not reasonable to assume the possibility of these claims be true without sufficient evidence to support it. The lack of evidence clearly speaks for itself. This is paranoid delusional behavior. Not only are they wasting the publics time but also law enforcement. Tell me again, what good are these dinosaur MLA’s?

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