Shootings gang related, say investigators

| 28/12/2016 | 35 Comments

(CNS): Officers investigating the shootings over the Christmas weekend in which two men were seriously wounded said they believed the violence was gang related. Both victims were shot outside licensed premises on Monday. The first was in the early hours of the Christmas holiday morning outside a Seven Mile Beach club, in the heart of the tourist area, and the second was on Monday night at a local bar and restaurant in West Bay, both of which have provided the backdrop for several murders and gang violence.

The two victims, aged 18 and 31, are both undergoing treatment and are said to be in stable condition.

“Police are investigating these incidents and can confirm that they are suspected to be gang-related,” officials from the RCIPS said Wednesday. “High-visibility patrols are being carried out in different areas around the island in response to these incidents.”

Police also said they continue to be concerned about late-night incidents and public safety around liquor-licensed premises.

In the first of the two separate shootings, a teenage boy was shot multiple time outside the Fete Night Club on West Bay Road by gunmen who escaped on a motorbike, at around 4:15 in the morning. In the second incident, the victim, who was shot in his upper body while standing outside Super C’s Restaurant on Watercourse Road in West Bay at around 10:45pm, was reportedly approached by an armed man wearing dark clothes, who fled on foot.

Police continue to appeal anyone with information about either incident to call George Town Police Station at 949-4222. Anonymous tips can be provided directly to the RCIPS Confidential Tip Line at 949-7777, the Miami-based call centre of Crime Stoppers at 800-8477(TIPS), or online.

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  1. scat says:

    BREAKING NEWS/THIS JUST IN/ATTENTION; bears poop in the woods

  2. MM says:

    Letter to the RCIPS – please help us.

    Dear Sirs:

    I feel it may assist you with your grand task to bring order if you have a clearer understanding of our crime’s origins and how it fits within the Cayman Islands’ landscape.

    There are specific breeding grounds for crime in the Cayman Islands – and if the RCIPS’ attention is concentrated in these areas there will be lessened or no opportunity for indulgence in crime and in turn an obvious reduction of the said.

    The majority of locals are well aware that almost every criminal, suspected criminal, aspiring criminal or wannabe criminal wreaking havoc on society either live or frequent one or several specific areas.

    I would suggest stepping up patrols in these areas to at least every 2 hours, 24/7 for at least 3 months – this will discourage the habitual behaviors that spin in to domestic violence, drug sales/usage and the pathetic quarrels that begin over a game of drunken dominoes and turn in to a gun fight or the desperation of hunger that leads a group of young men to plan their next life-altering robbery.

    All of these activities first begin in one of these areas at any given time and can appear to be an innocent collaboration of less privileged individuals sitting on a wall, taking a break from a rough life when in reality the discussions are about the next drug shipment, where the gun is hidden and which “lickle pu$$yhole bwoy gonna get a cap” – to be authentic with the language.

    Having increased patrols in these areas (I can think of six particular neighborhoods to start with) and ensuring consistent police presence in and around certain night clubs and bars will limit the amount of time criminals have for organizing crime. I am well aware of how disappointing it is to a criminal when they note that the police have stepped up patrols in their area.

    Most drug dealers and criminals have one or two “main hang-outs” and then will have about two or three additional “pass-through” locations – if a criminal is well aware that their spots are being observed and patrolled, let’s face it – they will “lie-low”.

    Most criminals in the Cayman Islands can count on the fact that the police will step up patrols for only about two consecutive weeks – this will hit a drug dealers bottom line but not cause them to look an alternative lifestyle because they can bank on the fact the patrols will wean.

    However – if an hourly police presence (helicopter, cars, bikes and foot patrols) are maintained consistently in all these areas for a minimum of 3 months, I can just about guarantee crime reduction (crime is an industry and it gets affected by major changes like any other industry).

    Such police presence will cause a criminal to have to re-evaluate their entire environment, company and resources (it is like destroying their natural habitat). Criminals live very paranoid lives – the high is avoiding being caught I guess.

    When police are present, the paranoia increases, when police are consistently present it leads to a criminal having to make some tough choices – keep attempting to move shady and not get caught – or hang-up some or all of the criminal hats until the police presence has weaned.

    If a criminal has found it highly risky to operate for a prolonged period of time, they will have to begin seeking an alternative or they will do something stupid and get themselves caught.

    Now, let me give you some background.

    For over many decades there has been some form of animosity between the various larger districts on Grand Cayman – this ridiculous feud has been passed down from the elders to our present youth – it would have first started as the ladies of the community gossiping and babbling about “that towna” or that “west baya” in front of their growing children.

    I am sure many CNS readers get a daily dose of this when reading comments here – “west bayas this”… “george townas that”, “east endas this”, “north sidas and Ezzard:… etc. This is nothing new; but it has evolved and it has created a hidden division and lack of respect for each other among our young people.

    Then, like all forms of discrimination the children grow up listening to this “behind-your-back-chatter” and are raised with their own inner deepening belief that this discrimination is warranted and further deteriorating the chances of true differences that arise being dealt with in a civil and sensible manner regardless of how small the issue may be.

    The children remained segregated during there entire primary education – and then in High School everyone was pooled together. The tensions began to build up and many students of the time took note of what we then labeled “gangs” – several politicians of the day who were entirely disconnected from the true happenings within our country denied the existence of gang culture at a time when there were simply fist-fights and the occasional brawls – the perfect opportunity to change the community’s thinking – but they decided to save face in Cayman or through total ignorance, to deny that this was happening.

    During my High School days in the early 21st century many students came to school from the various “organized groups” flaunting their chosen “colors” (bandannas had become “style” at the time and children were then beginning to indulge in the additional cable channels that were introduced on the island) – dress-down days were a time to associate yourself with your “crew”.

    So, I have said all that to say this – we all must understand the origins of the violence between our young people; when there is no mutual respect, international gang behavior flashed on TV like it’s fashion, parents/elders who slander others of their own kind in front of their children and several other factors that assist with deteriorating our young men’s already fragile appreciation for the importance of life – there can be little question as to why it is so easy for them to pick up a gun and shoot each other or threaten a clerk’s life for $10.

    Back in the day young men would go out and mow a lawn, fish or help with home repairs – but as these areas are now managed by licensed and successful businesses; these same young men have found that it is much quicker to make a buck from selling drugs. Many of the quarrels that lead to gun shots evolve around stolen drugs or some other discrepancy with drugs.

    When mother’s are dressing their sons like mini Tupacs, fathers without jobs are paying child support by dealing drugs, grand parents themselves were young parents and are now in their 30s, underprivileged communities are forgotten all year until Christmas time and election season, teachers fear for their jobs if they report obvious deficiencies in a young child’s life, politicians are so far-fetched from reality with their heads stuck in billionaire developers @$$es, and a country of constituents so desperate for a hand-out that they will sell their future, their children and their granny for a fridge – we can clearly understand the challenge that we will face curbing these issues.

    Good luck sir – but I suggest stepping up the patrols; the island has not grown larger in size but the police force has and yet there are far less patrols on the roads now than even 5 years ago – some laziness and disorganization happening somewhere.

    P.S. – many of the illegal dirt bikes and riders are also in these same areas so you can kill many, many birds with one stone.



    • Anonymouse says:

      Spot on my friend. You hit the nail on the head.

    • Luk Youtmen says:

      Your not the first to say. Alot of people here are now infiltrated and simply adopt cultures that spew from neighboring countries.

      Most teens dress, speak and try to act like they are from south-side LA, HOLLYWOOD or Chicago/”Chi-Raq”.(Even the “rich/good” ones ha!)

      The “adults” do no better. All being forced to compete in their “money race” to act like Kardashians, Basketball Wives or Caymans Next hoModel. Fake nails, LOANER cars, off-brand watches, (rented apartments), and BAD ASS kids to replace their ignorant ways.


    • Anonymous says:

      9:54am! Quite insightful and provocative! It is people like yourself that should be one of the architects of the social reconstruction of the Cayman Islands!

    • Caymanian idiot says:

      Well written and spot on!
      CNS should use this as an article.

    • Anonymous says:

      Stop trying to obscure the fact that a life of crime is choosen. You may have your influences, but I see the majority of chidren making the right choices, and a few over-dramatic kids who were never taught boundaries ruining this little island for all.

      So take you drama-queen-playing-the-victim-thug-dindonutin-historical-suffering, an shove it where the sun dont shine.

      • Luk Youtmen says:

        You clearly are not from Earth or never been in the streets of ANY country for 1 day. Please awaken your dusty brain and use it going forward.

        Perhaps your next of kin may be perfect like you because you have taken responsibility to remain in “control” LOL…this is NOT the case for a large amount of the worlds population, let alone here in Cayman.

        TURN ON YOUR TV, SMARTPHONE & RADIO….are you blinded, deafened or dumbfounded at the overwhelming influences in 2017 too???? WELL SO are ALL of the “children” YOU dont have “control” over LOL.

        #Creep #WakeUP #OldAzzMentality

  3. SSM345 says:

    Whoever is the new spokesman for the RCIPS should be named Captain Obvious. Along with this revelation that the shootings are gang related, they also asked that we secure our belongings before leaving our property in another news bulletin. No sh*t Sherlock!

    What’s next, telling us that the majority of ganja and guns come from Jamaica or that one of the illegal dirt biker riders is going to kill themselves or others?!

    • Anonymous says:

      And if the RCIP did not tell the public that it was gang related or to lock their door, people would b****, so really, they just can’t win.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Super C’s needs to be shut down and demolished! Ridiculous the trouble there and nothing is done. Wake up !

    • SSM345 says:

      Likewise with Fete, Bananas and where else that sells alcohol and has fights? That’s not the solution. Perhaps the RCIPS step up their patrols around the problem areas, that’s what normally happens in other countries…….With the total lack of police presence at these spots where all the violence etc. seems to occur its almost as if they are purposely avoiding them so that these punks can just take care of their issues themselves. Problem is, its has the complete opposite affect RCIPS and you end up with more problems on your hands.

    • Anonymous says:

      Demolished on a busy night…

    • Anonymous says:

      Anyone know who owns Super C?

  5. Anonymous says:

    A bunch of wild monkeys. No hope for the less evolved.

    • The Earl of Greystoke says:

      Just the same as there is no hope for you.

      • Anonymous says:

        The denial, deciet, and delusion is the new game to delay the obvious. The mounting evidence of videos on the internet will show what race is truly out of hope and needs to do some serious soul searching.

  6. Anonymous says:

    To paraphrase a classic moment from Casablanca, “I’m shocked, shocked to find that this is going on here!”

  7. Anonymous says:

    Supply the gangs with squirt guns and take them to the beach for the afternoon.

  8. Da Real OG says:

    Gangsta out there please stop shooting one another because all that is doing is giving this UK stooge government authority to pay themselves and their jamaican & foreign helpers huge amounts of our money. Thereby putting us in further debt and enabling them get employment and sell their equipment and crime hogwash to these loyal fools we call politicians Your violent acts are merely part of their financial and political strategy and plan to maintain control of these Islands. You are not only hurting yourselves your taking away your own future and that of our children and damaging our tourism image and that is exactly what they want to happen. So we become dependant on Financial Aid from them.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Amazing!! I never would have thought it! Get your frigging act together!!

    We have two gangs working here. The thugs and those who control government. The more we let the ones that dictate to government do what they wantto do the more we will see the thugs take over our streets.

    The only places that will be safe, at least for now, will those built by the rich gang. We will end up like Jamaica. The resorts will be compounds protected by armed guards. The citizens will be at the mercy of the street gangs.

    Way to go, PPM and UDP. Sorry I can not thank you for selling out to money god.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Hey RCIP – are the victims gang members? If so why have you not arrested them? If they survive, will you? Or are you just going to continue to refuse to enforce our laws?

  11. dixon of dock green says:

    great detective work there boys, lmao

  12. Anonymous says:

    The good thing about that is that soon mackeeva will sit down and talk with them and this will be all over. Done. Like it never happened. Soon. You’ll see. Soon. He will.

  13. Mr Watson says:

    No s$#@ Sherlock of course they are gang related.Well i guess that is better than we are Safe and secure!!!! Police are Concern about late night activities around liquor license premise why in the world would they allow the idiotic PPM board then to extend hours. Surely they knew this would be the outcome???? Aaaaah but so long as its the UK friendly government anything goes eh?

  14. Gang Related says:

    Telling us what we have known for a while thanks RCIPS!

  15. Qwerty says:

    Needz da CMK an WSM mandem finish dis war quick

  16. Anonymous says:

    So tired of these incidents being referred to as GANG related! These punks in Cayman would not stand a chance in a real “Street Gang”. Since they like to play with guns so much why don’t they enlist to the army or something! Oh wait they can only shoot at innocent people who aren’t in a position to defend themselves! Bet you they wouldn’t be so quick to ride up and shoot at someone if that person was able to shoot back!

    • Anonymous says:

      i agree, lets send a group of the so called “gang members” to Syria and see how long they last before they beg to come back. that’s the real world, with real terrorism not the pin pop world of cayman. These guys are more of a public nuisance (like the green iguana) than a real public threat. wasting millions of the countries resources running around after them and shaming these beautiful islands they call home.

    • MM says:

      Gang – “an organized group of criminals.”

      It does not matter whether they would survive real-world gang life or not, fact is they are an organized group of criminals – whether properly organized or not and therefore we must approach this situation with the severity necessary to disband an organized group of criminals.

  17. Anonymous says:

    No way, really……………………………

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