Former governor will fight lawsuit

| 25/10/2015 | 77 Comments
Cayman News Service

Former Cayman Islands governor Duncan Taylor with Police Commissioner David Baines

(CNS): Former Cayman Islands governor, Duncan Taylor, has confirmed he will be fighting the lawsuit filed by Opposition Leader McKeeva Bush alleging he conspired with the commissioner of police (CoP) to oust him from office. Taylor, who is now the British Ambassador to Mexico, told CNS, ‘These allegations are unfounded and will be rebutted robustly. It would be inappropriate for me to comment further in view of ongoing civil legal proceedings.” 

A lawsuit filed last week by Bush’s attorneys, Travers Thorp Alberga, naming Taylor, Police Commissioner David Baines and the attorney general, accuses Taylor of giving directions and instructions to Baines regarding the conduct of the investigation against the then premier into the alleged misuse of his government credit card while he was gambling on slot machines in casinos.

The suit alleges that even before the credit card probe began, Taylor had made an agreement with the CoP to “urgently find a plausible basis” for criminal charges to be brought against Bush before the start of the campaign in March for the May 2013 general election to ensure he lost his position as premier and that his party, the UDP, lost the election.

Bush further claims that the then governor and the police commissioner in collusion asked the auditor general to examine Bush’s use of his credit card.

The lawsuit claims that Taylor conducted himself “contrary to the constitutional duties of his office” by manipulating the political and criminal justice process.

Taylor came to Cayman as governor in January 2010 from Barbados, where he had been the British High Commissioner for that territory and the Eastern Caribbean. Unlike many of his predecessors, the job as the UK’s representative in Cayman was not Taylor’s last position before retirement and in May 2013 his appointment as the British ambassador to Mexico was announced.

He was replaced with the current governor, Helen Kilpatrick, who arrived in Cayman in September 2013, not only the first woman to hold the office but the first governor not to come from the diplomatic corps. Before taking up the office here, Kilpatrick was working at the Home Office as the director general of finance and corporate services before acting as the permanent secretary.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    Simple questions & Simple answers?

    What is a credit card ? A Credit Card is a line of “Credit” which is actually a loan
    Where is the money loaned from ? A Bank
    How Is it Government Money? It can only be Government money, if the loan is first paid in full with Government money.
    What happens when the loan is not paid? Interest applies, the card can be closed and the account goes in arrears.
    Was this a Business Credit Card ? yes
    Issued to Who on behalf of who? McKeeva Bush
    Is there a cardholder agreement statement ? With every card, yes
    Who signs for this agreement? The cardholder and the Business owner of the account (Govt)
    Was there a policy on how and what the card should be used on? Some companies do, in this case,,,,,, Apparently not
    Was the card used for private use? Apparently so
    Would a department social be consider private use if they used the card in bananas and got drunk? only if they had a policy
    Was the money paid back? Apparently so
    Was the account closed or in arrears? Apparently note
    Any other instances of such within a Government Credit Card ? ALL THE TIME !!
    Was a crime therefore committed? there’s no law in this case, therefore Of Course not
    If the card was used for personal use instead of Business use, “if” it was for business use only what should have happen? The card should have been cancelled and taken away from cardholder, and order to settle any outstanding balance.

    Was this blown out of portion ? sure was
    Was there a “plot” ? appears so

    no crime, no time…

    • Anonymous says:

      I hope this settles the PPM haters attack on Mr. Bush! But i doubt it will as they are too blind to admit that Mr. Mac was found not guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers.

      They just need to get over it and move on and look at their own immoral conducts.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Tired people still having a go at Tempura. Wait until the true role of the FCO is exposed in this matter. You will then see who is responsible for the wastage of money and peoples professional efforts. The FCO have lied to the Cayman Islands McLaughlin knows this, Bush knows this they are both as bad as each other in trying to look after there own interests instead of the wider interests of the Cayman Islands.

    • Anonymous says:

      And neither of them ever told a lie, hid information or used government funds for inappropriate purposes but got away with it?

    • Anonymous says:

      Again, the only common factor is the Attorney General (a Jamaican, Mr. Bulgin) appointed and reports to FCO right? He has been in that position with PPM, UDP, now PPM, former and current Governors and Police Commissioners, will he be the scapegoat or in the ultimate position to look out for his people?

      I know no Caymanian will probably be put there but for a little more objectivity, why not limit the terms for this position, period?

  3. Anonymous says:

    The UK’s policy for Cayman is that of doing whatever is best in the interest of the UK.

    Therefore, when claims and or evidence of UK autocratic interference in the democratically elected government of the Cayman Islands …how are Caymanians supposed to interpret?

    Similar to how the majority of Brits take issue with unilateral EU legislation and directives interfering in their domestic affairs. You know, intake of refugees, religious freedoms, economic policy, rights of EU nationals to claim govt benefits for dependents living in other EU countries etc.



    – Who

    • Anonymous says:

      Quite right Whodatis. A UK government should do exactly what is right for a, oh…a UK territory!! How did that happen? Beaten by your own argument. Always a bummer.

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh dear.
        Poster, this is going to hurt me more than it will you…

        Actually, never mind. Something tells me you’ve figured it out by now.

        Bless your little heart.


        – Whodatis

    • Anonymous says:

      Because numb nuts the EU is viewed by the majority of Brits as a foreign trading bloc and not sovereign to the UK parliament. The UK is a democratic, independent sovereign nation, Cayman is not, it is a territory of the UK and until you mange to get a majority in favour of independence, it will remain that way. Your tin pot government is the size of a UK parish council, don’t over egg your importance to the world of democracy when only a fraction of your population can and will bother to vote.
      Unlike Cayman, we intend on holding a referendum on future membership of the EU, perhaps if you have the nerve, you should request one for independence. Trust me, no one in the UK will stand in your way, the Falklands got their vote, and overwhelmingly voted to remain a British territory. You fail to see that your internal affairs are our affairs, because Cayman is our territory and has been since the time of the Treaty of Madrid and the first settlers.

      But you won’t, you’ll just sit and have a temper tantrum and throw rocks from the sidelines, you’ll blame everyone else for your own corruption and incompetence, and life will just carry on as normal.

      • Anonymous says:

        That EU reference has really gotten under your skin I see.

        Tell me, my fellow Brit, how is your (European) President doing?
        Did you vote for him, or the other guy?

        Anyway, you just keep paying your taxes ok? After all, those Lithuanian and Bulgarian kids aren’t gonna feed themselves.

        – Who

        P.S. Don’t you (and your supporters) feel slightly embarrassed that the country you hold in such low regard is the same you consider superior in terms of building a life for yourself?

        • Anonymous says:

          The Lithuanians are doing a lot better than you Whodatis, all you are doing is displaying your ignorance again. But nothing new there.

        • Anonymous says:

          Think Who been smoking too much, he mightily confused today….

        • Anonymous says:

          Oh please Whodatis, I’m not here to build a life for myself, I’m here to invoke my freedom to travel. However, I will take advantage of the fact that I am willing to earn money where Caymanians can’t or won’t, and then I’ll return to my homeland to build a life from the proceeds.
          You are very naive if you think that I’m here because this place is in some way superior to home, (it’s not a country for a start, it’s a territory of a sovereign nation). No, I’m here because I want to be, not because I have to be.
          And the EU means nothing to me so you’ll have to try harder than that as all you’ve done is demonstrate your ignorance of how an EU president is voted in.

        • Anonymous says:

          hmmm Who, majority of expats whether they come from Europe or next door, Jamaica, consider their culture, way of life, people, history as superior, so sorry pal the Europeans can’t take that credit all for themselves.

          But apart from keeping those high paying jobs for themselves and their token black-Jamacian-Caymanian status holders, they have done us much less harm and damage, at least they work and keep to themselves not infiltrate and seek to destroy, then again you know that mental slavery thing, they just can’t help but hurt the superior island actually giving them a great improvement in life, you know right?

          Took over the locals now if only they can get those partnerships next to the same white men they hate… hypocrisy, it’s all about greed and love of money, maybe one day you’ll confess which white man took your business and or your woman because this level of continue hatred most be very personal.

          p.s. you the Jordanian family or what? he lived in Jamaica for years too and since you from Jamaica… never know

          • Anonymous says:

            Like, wtf?!

            Oh…it’s you again. That phantom poster that ALWAYS finds a way to invoke their disdain for Jamaica / Jamaicans in every issue.

            Why do you always assume I am Jamaican btw? You are very weird, and I suspect suffering from some kind of mental issue.

            Do me a favor, double your daily dosage and try again.


            – Who

            P.S. The very nature of this post calls for an examination of our relationship with the UK. Don’t know why you’re always straddling Jamaica.
            One of them must have tapped on the bottomest’ chamber and left you hanging.


            • Anonymous says:

              tsk tsk Ask your fans they will clearly agree you are the only poster with need of help with your mental issues.

              and as to being the poster who writes negative comments about Jamaica, check your sources again, many people out there have kept quiet but you know the truth.

              and you just confirmed what we all think, your constant attack of one nationality does indicate the sign of issues, got it now?

              • Anonymous says:

                I constantly discuss Cayman’s relationship with the BRITISH GOVERNMENT because it is the ULTIMATE POWER in this country.

                Jamaica, as an example, has absolutely no legal, binding or constitutional say-so over the Cayman Islands. Therefore, to constantly make reference to that country and its citizens indicates some kind of agenda, personal vendetta or dysfunction of the individual.

                I trust this sheds some much needed light on the issue to help you along.

                – Whodatis

                • Anonymous says:

                  In Cayman, the dominant nationality is Jamaican (whether Caucasian or African or Indian descent);

                  they hold key positions in the legal department, judicial administration;

                  make up majority of employees in those departments and police service, and education department and most CIG HR/Accounting departments have at least one;

                  managing directors of at least two prominent law firms and many of the associates are Caymanians via status; and

                  many ‘anchor marriages’ with male and female Caymanians are with Jamaican nationals, etc etc

                  The limited comments I have made specifically about Jamaicans is related to managing our policies fairly to ensure we are not creating modern day genocide. (As I stated earlier, you need to be reminded that many Caymanians don’t want so many here and they are using the social media to air these concerns, I simply like the comments, no need to even post a comment.)

                  On the contrary you have been bringing up any tabloid, news from 100 years ago to discuss British persons whose actions are so remote but any attempt to continue that subliminal message of yours.


        • Anonymous says:

          Irony is so easily lost on the arrogant.
          (You guys are awesome!)

          – Whodatis

          • Anonymous says:

            Speaking of irony, note your dislike of posters making comments about Jamaicans you think it’s fine to constantly attack the British?

            You have been divisive and biased, clearly if Cayman was your priority you would be looking at issues more objectively.

            • Anonymous says:

              (Please see my recent reply to another post re why I “attack the British”. I won’t get into that again.)

              As for the rest of your post I have to say; Say wha?!

              Are you seriously accusing Whodatis of being divisive and biased here on CNS? Do you not read 95% of the comments on this forum? Have you not realised the grossly biased and anti-Caymanian theme throughout the threads in almost EVERY SINGLE news story … on this Cayman-based news site, no less?

              Kindly miss me with the bulls!t poster. You are clearly choosing to see what you want and ignoring the rest.

              You have yourself a good day.

              – Whodatis

        • Anonymous says:

          Your a fellow Brit?

          • Anonymous says:

            According to the majority of my opposition here on CNS, yes.
            They are always keen to point out that Cayman is merely a territory of the United Kingdom.

            Plus it says so on my passport(s). Oh yes, I take full advantage as unimaginable and historic terrorism, genocide, colonialism, piracy, invasion and pillaging by Christian Europeans carry modern advantages.

            (However, when attempted by others today it is strangely frowned upon.)


  4. Just Watchin says:

    Mc should never have been let off. Section 41 of the Public Service Management Law (2013 Revision) states very clearly:
    41. (1) A ministry or portfolio shall not –
    (a) do anything that is inconsistent with its annual budget statement under section 42 or any direction given to it by the Minister of Finance under section 36;
    (b) incur, in any financial year, entity expenses exceeding in total its entity revenue in that year, unless otherwise agreed in writing by the Minister of Finance;
    (c) borrow or lend money;
    (d) permit any of its bank accounts to be overdrawn;
    (e) give any mortgage or other security or any guarantee; or
    (f) invest in an equity or debt security.
    His Chief Officer was violating the law when he supposedly told Mc that he could borrow money from his Government credit card and pay it back. Ministries are forbidden from lending money [s.41.(c)]. Carson should have been charged before he left the court house!
    It was pure slackness and lack of enthusiasm on the part of the prosecutors to not drive this point home to the Judge.

    • Anonymous says:

      The case needs to be re-opened and mckeewa needs to be held accountable for his misdeeds to this country. Perhaps that will finally settle his idiot backside down.

    • Anonymous says:

      26-10-2015 7:48am – Moron, this would account to double jeopardy! You can’t be tried for the same crime twice. Mr. Mac was found not guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers. Get over it and note that the government will pay. Why don’t you take on the case misguided Lawyer?

      • SSM345 says:

        OJ got off his criminal trial, everyone knows he did it. He wasn’t so successful in the civil trial.
        Mac is going to get what’s coming for him and it will be his own doing, this new fiasco bringing it all about.

      • Anonymous says:

        You sound like a broken record bozo. Just like your false god: “My hands is clean and mi heart is pure. My hands is clean and mi heart is pure. I is forewa onerable. I is forewa honerable. A ga sue unna backside. A ga sue unna backside.

    • Anonymous says:

      I would add that any MLA should note their responsibility of their role and held to a high standard for statesmen, including the application of constitutional morality, which should also have been a factor even if no written policy for certain codes of conduct

    • Anonymous says:

      As so often happens in Cayman, the Law was clear but the Chief Officer and Financial Secretary come from…er…West Bay so we got a lot of crap about how there was no this and that to prevent him doing this and that when in reality EVERYONE else knew what the correct use of government credit cards was supposed to be. Mr Carson Ebanks and Mr Ken Jefferson should at least be embarrassed….but they wont be because they can always blame it on the Law and not their highly paid, supposed to be unbiased, administration of the Law.

    • Anonymous says:

      Can you find something that applied at the time the events occurred? That would help.

    • Anonymous says:

      The court would have to deal with almost every seniour civil servant and government owned companies. Just wait until some additional information is revealed about the use of government credit cards.

  5. Anonymous says:

    How much is this pile of foolishness going to cost the people and future generations of this country now? McKeeva, with all the immediate needs this country is facing, WE THE PEOPLE don’t have the time, nor the money, for this shit.

    • SSM345 says:

      Mac does not give a rats ass about this country or its people, you should know that by now, just look at what he is doing and how he reacted after his criminal trial giving the entire country a middle finger.

  6. Anonymous says:

    First, there were very serious allegations of corruption in relation to the Stan Thomas affair that could have resulted — had the appropriate court pursuit not been apparently stymied by situations beyond local control and if he had been found guilty — not only in removal from office but also in jail terms.

    Second, no one should have required a written government policy to refrain from using a government-issued credit card for casino gambling, period.

    Any government official associated with either of the two or both is not fit to represent me. And it clearly would have been shirking responsibilities for the appropriate powers not to have sought airing of these matters through the courts.

    Not every “not guilty” verdict translates into a de facto declaration of innocence.

    It is a truth, however, that there is more than one way to skin a cat — what an ironic twist of fate it would be were the nine lives finally to run out with this latest foray. Talk about tempting fate.

    One consolation of sorts is the ongoing Court of Public Opinion. That verdict is yet to be finally decided — and the public may yet get that right. One can at least hope.

    • Anonymous says:

      Moron, this would be double jeopardy! You can’t be tries for the same crimes twice. Mr. Mac was found not guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers. Get over it and note that the government will pay.

      • Anonymous says:

        We are not in America, and yes you can be if new and crucial evidence comes to light.

        • Anonymous says:

          26/10/2015 at 1:50am – Mr. Mac was found not guilty of all charges by a jury of his peers. Why don’t you then take up the case Lawyer?

      • Anonymous says:

        1:12 pm — as soon as someone starts calling names you can almost be sure that capacity to understand is a little wanting. The “court of public” opinion is metaphorical and not to be taken literally.

      • SSM345 says:

        1:12, your legal tid bits that I assume you are picking up from Wikipedia or the sky are hilarious. Cayman does not adhere to the US legal system, because we are an Overseas British Territory so all of our law is based off the UK, imagine that……..Did Mac tell you he couldn’t be tried again by an chance?

  7. Anonymous says:

    Hurry up Duncan, come on. We’re going down da pub.
    Sham ’69

  8. Anonymous says:

    This is gonna be good.

    – Whodatis

  9. Anonymous says:

    More wastage of Cayman Islands taxpayers money.

    First it was Operation Tempura, (still ongoing – costing us over $10 million and counting) then Operation Cleat and now Blackjack 101.

  10. Anonymous says:

    LOL, I see another expensive fiasco developing here. Despite his famous ‘lessons have been learned’ statement in 2010 it appears Taylor didn’t actually learn anything from Tempura and was more than happy to repeat the mistakes.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Did anyone else see the piss poor job Duncan did with the British refugees from Hurricane Patricia?

    • Anonymous says:

      Why does everyone think the FCO is a social service? It is there for dire emergencies or passport losses and not to fund expats in trouble and that has been that way for years. I think the trouble here is that you just expect handouts for everything…and that is a real and troubling problem

  12. Anonymous says:

    Taylor, Baines, Kilpatrick, blah, blah, blah. Go back to your own ruined country and take McKeeva Bush and Alden McLaughlin with you. They are just a couple of colonial pawns.
    We do NOT want fancy uniforms, fake titles, ridiculous ceremonies, endless unintelligible laws, smarmy lawyers hiding behind fancy monikers and downright bloody arrogance.

    So what if we want to be a quiet nation? We want independence from idiots and stop flooding our little country with hordes of unknowns who have no intention of integration.

    • Anonymous says:

      I’m a long term expatriate. It’s good to see a local giving as good as he gets, when we have so many expatriate comments denigrating Caymanians and the Cayman way of life.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hello friend, thanks for the positive response. I must confess, I am the original poster, an expatriate as yourself. But like you, I have come to love this place and it’s unique people. I have so many happy memories of Cayman as it was.

        Unfortunately, we were asleep, and slowly but surely, our paradise has succumbed to the rust and decay of our “modern”, “progressive” society.

        Many of our old-time Caymanians are totally bewildered at the current state of affairs. Their biggest gripe is the destruction of traditional community and family values.

      • Anonymous says:

        I would be interested to see if you still hold this view as this nationalist wave silently grows in the background. Many expats remained on in Jamaica feeling that it was their home and out of commitment to the new, independent country.
        Some of these soon left the country with underwear crammed with money trying to get a flight anywhere.
        Turns out that tolerance has a time limit.

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh please, please, please, fight for independence from our ‘ruined country’. The British people would love nothing more than an end to financial millstones around our neck that are BOT’s, (with the exception of the Falklands) and members of the Commonwealth. We would happily wave goodbye to those ingrates who have taken far more than they’ve given, especially in terms of aid, diplomatic, civil and military protection over the past 50 years. We would gladly take back our passports and the freedoms you can enjoy as a member of one of the top 6 economies in the world. We would relish the chance to remove the UK financial and legal institutions that power your immoral tax avoidance economy, welcoming the billions that are denied to those in the UK and around the world that need it most, (although to be fair, tax havens are almost finished anyway).
      We would take back our loans and our credit rating, leaving you at the mercy of the open market without any way of underwriting debt.
      We would remove your diplomatic entitlements, forcing you to finance and support representatives around the world at a crippling cost, (I can just imagine the hilarity when Ezzard and his like become ambassadors on the world stage)
      You don’t have one statesman amongst you, and the world knows it.

      And after we take back this, and more, we will sit and watch as your ruined economy falls prey to the Chinese or the Russians, because they’ll be the only ones who will lend you the money. But as you don’t actually produce anything and don’t have a way of guaranteeing loan repayments, you will soon learn that your ‘self entitled attitude’ gets you nothing for nothing. You see without those work permit holders you despise so much, you have no workers, which means no service industry or tourism, which ultimately means no income.
      So when this becomes another satellite of Bejing or Moscow, and when the Jamaican and South American drugs barons have commandeered this rock as their own, when the tourists stop coming because of the instability caused by a failing economy and political turmoil. And when your property prices collapse forcing out the money that keeps you afloat and the very people who maintain your service, financial and tourism market, then you will feel proud that you are independent.
      You can continue to invent ‘heroes’ like the tin pot banana republic you will become, you can back slap yourselves for the disgusting state of your education system and wonder where all the trained doctors and nurses, (the hordes of unknowns) went. You could then learn how to clean your own s##t up, look after your own children, drive your own buses, serve your own people in restaurants and bars, repair your own cars, police your own people, look after your own criminals, learn to be a dive master, clean your own yard, walk your own dog etc, etc………

      So when it comes to idiots, who do you think comes out best in this p#####g contest? The problem with loud mouth nationalists is they rarely have the balls to carry out their impotent threats. They just sit in their caves and whine about their self imposed misery, probably have ‘mummy’ issues and should have left home decades ago.
      But by all means, go for independence, it won’t make a blind bit of difference to us, but you obviously believe it will to you.

      And at the end of this you’ll get your wish, it will be very quiet. Enjoy your chow mien!

      • Anonymous says:

        9.21 could not have said it better. You will soon see from other comments I suspect that most (certainly on here) do not get it, will not get it, until they end up being overrun by all the people you mention, and then they will ask the British to come back and defend them. Sod that for a game of soldiers!! Oh BTW, Gibraltar also will never become Spanish, the people are vehemently against it.

      • Anonymous says:

        Chow Mein is fine, but you missed the point entirely. Before recent drastic changes in these islands took place through the influence of rich Caymanians and their puppy dog politicians, Cayman was a place to die for.
        Shallow people like you only serve to emphasise my point.

        Please go back and fix your own country before you tell us how to fix ours.

        • Anonymous says:

          Its not your country…just a teeny technical pointy wointy…

        • Anonymous says:

          Oh thank god, I thought it was the fault of those from overseas, when all the time it is the fault of Caymanians. Thank you for clearing that up for us, but I think we already knew that.
          It’s your own shallow people who are responsible for selling out for the green back, you’ve just said it yourself.

          Ps. This is our country, hence the Queen, the Union Flag, the Governor and the CoP, you just get to live on it and #### it up. Oh yes, this is called the Internet, I am where ever you want me to be.

      • Marcia says:

        Wow! At 9:21am? So much hatred and angry. Take a walk back in time and see what your people did to Africa….I say no more.

        • Anonymous says:

          Ah, the old Africa argument from someone who’s never been there, didn’t take long did it. Funny how when it suits you Caymanians are ‘true’ Caymanian, (or British descendant settlers) but when it comes down to establishing the truth about British influence, suddenly you become African.
          How typically two faced.
          If you think we did so bad, why haven’t you gone back and sorted out? After all, the UK led the fight to abolish slavery and has continue paying billions in aid that is often creamed off by corrupt ‘African’ governments that keep their own people in poverty and at war.
          Tell me, exactly what is the aid budget to Africa from Cayman or any other Caribbean island for that matter. No, didn’t think so, so you keep up your hypocritical BS about Africa whilst keeping your greedy hands in your pockets.

          And FYI, the piece at 9:21 is merely highlighting the consequences of the hatred projected by 2:05 and the empty rhetoric which empty headed rockhoppers like to spout on these occasions. But that’s the problem isn’t it, you don’t understand how actions have consequences, it’s all come too easy. Basically you’ve learnt nothing except how to take.

        • Bingo wings says:

          No need … Just look at Chagos.
          (Did I win?)

      • Anonymous says:

        Sounds like you really hate this place. Did your wife cheat on you with a local ? Or you must have ran your mouth and got beaten up. And the U.K. A independent nation don’t make me laugh.The U.S. Gives the orders and the U.K. And E.U. Follows without question. Look at the multiply wars and conflicts the U.K. we’re basically forced to participate in because big brother said so which by the way are are illegal without the UN authorization. Same shit they are doing in Ukraine Syria etc. I’ve rather be with Russians any day over the U.K. You guys are dirty full of espionage and propaganda nobody believes in the main stream media bullsh*t people are finally waking up to the lies we have been told for so long. You sir would be doing all of us a favor and go back where you come from and stop wishing ill on us because perhaps nobody treats like royalty here. You give the good people of the U.K a name good thing people know all are not like you. And FYI we receive no financial aid from the U.K.

        • Anonymous says:

          No, my wife has sense. Bet yours left you? Or you ran off and don’t pay child support? How is that chip on your shoulder working for you? Helping you get a job? Didn’t think so…

          • Anonymous says:

            So basically to you all caymanian people are deadbeats? Because you feel so bold to say all this sh*t I bet you won’t be brave enough to say who you are I’ll personally make sure you won’t want to be here. Unfortunately to your dismay they are caymanians who got their sh*t together and make their own money. I probably make more than you but that would puzzle your little racist brain wouldn’t it. My best advice to you keep this attitude you got online and anonymous otherwise you going have problems that jolly old England won’t be able to help you with. Furthermore you come to another country and hate the people who live here like really what kind of person are you. Do yourself and do us all a favor and leave go back to your perfect country. We don’t need hateful people like you here anyways. Just because your from the U. K. you think your special. Well your not my friend you need a work permit like every other nationality so stay in your lane you ain’t nothing special.

            • Anonymous says:

              Oh dear, isn’t making an open threat of violence a criminal offence on Cayman? Still that’s all it is, an empty threat as you too have remained anonymous, ha ha.
              Calm down dear, the truth obviously stings a little, but just go back to your 345 and all will be okay, because I’m not some vulnerable female you can push around after a few drinks on the beach.
              This isn’t another country, that’s the point genius, it’s a territory OF a sovereign country, so in a free country I am entitled to put a counter argument to the bile ridden drivel of 2:05. You see, just because you may not like the consequences outlined in my piece, it doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Should you and your kind decide that you want to be free from the UK, these could be the consequences, it’s not anti Cayman, (to the contrary) it’s anti nationalist and in this case 2:05 especially.
              As you can tell, I care not for your juvenile threats, but I do care that you cannot understand the argument because if you can’t get your head around my simple outline of what could happen after independence, then you’ve not been paying attention to world politics and the consequences of self determination since the Second World War. So for heavens sake read it again and absorb the context in which it was written.
              Once you’ve sat and worked that out, then move on to how exactly you plan to fill every vacancy that will exist, how you plan to run your economy without those who generate your income, and exactly how the basics of your society will function without those you despise so much.
              You see, although you believe that people on work permits ‘ain’t nothing special’, the simple fact is that they keep this place running, so they are in fact very special, especially to your economy and ultimately to your personal wealth and well being.

              And just so you’re in no doubt, this is the 21st century, we now have the Internet. No one actually needs to be in the place they comment on anymore, they just read how your screwing up a once beautiful, tolerant and welcoming place. You see, I don’t need a WP, I have a passport, and surprise, I’m not in the UK or Cayman.
              And stop with the threats, they just reduce you to a stereotype.

              • Anonymous says:

                Quite frankly in matters nothing to me who you are. But when you paint everybody with a broad brush on a local public forum disrespecting the people because I quote your from U.K. And we the Cayman Islands are a territory of your great and wonderful country that by the way you don’t even live in we must bow down to you and take whatever disrespectful drivel you can spout out. 2:05 don’t speak for all of us. You think the rest of us don’t know that we need work permit holders to keep the economy going. And don’t try twist sh*t up I didn’t say anything about not needing the good people who come here and become apart of this society on WPs because they are good people at least the majority of them . I’m telling you straight up we don’t need disrespectful people like you because we are a territory of your great country you think you can treat us like sh*t and say whatever not anymore.

                And so your in no doubt this is the 21st century slavery days are done the British Empire is far from their glory days of going around the world and colonizing every flipping place they step foot on. Im done arguing with you you claim you don’t even live here but you feel the need to talk about issues that don’t concern you, it was a waste of time even responding to you.

                • Anonymous says:

                  And there it is, the slavery and the Empire has made an entrance, I knew it wouldn’t be long before the old days made a comeback.
                  You see wise sage, these islands weren’t a conquest of empire, they have been ours since we British first settled here.
                  Secondly, I never said I didn’t live here, I just said I’m not in the U.K. or Cayman whilst commenting. Oh yes, and I forgot to mention that I’ve been Caymanian almost certainly longer than you’ve been alive.
                  I’m not disrespecting the Caymanian people, just you and the dead heads that share your Neanderthal views of the world.
                  I don’t want you to bow down, I just want you to realise that your view, and that of 2:05 are not mainstream here on Cayman. Most people don’t indulge in the twisted view of the isolationists and nationalists, because they know how bad it will get.
                  But all of this is beside the point.
                  The fact is you still don’t understand the post or why it was posted. I was responding to 2:05, nothing more, and it is you who got on the nationalist bandwagon inventing slights against Caymanians because the truth simply hurts if you have no understanding of the facts.
                  But don’t take my word for it, push for a referendum and see how it works out for you. As I said, I don’t care if that’s what you really want, but look at your neighbours and around the world, how has independence worked out since WW2?
                  And just so you understand. The Caymanians I met when I first came here in the late 1950’s were kind, gentle, welcoming folk who held their cultural heritage in the same esteem as their loyalty to their Queen and motherland.
                  The collapse of this heritage came with successive waves of local immigration and the ignorance and disloyalty that followed. The generations that followed seized the genuine local hospitality and invoked their own form of ‘Caymanian’ culture and narrow mindset. The problem being that youre not smart enough, (or old enough) to see what has happened since the 60’s and 70’s, so you blame everyone else.
                  Finally, if the UK is really that bad, why is it millions are risking their lives to get there?
                  Anyway, home soon, missing you.

            • Anonymous says:

              Handbags at dawn 11.00, in front of the governors house? Do you remember what dawn is?? If you really are a Caymanian who got his “sh*t” together you would not be so bitter and twisted. I suspect you are the complete opposite.

    • Judean People's Front. says:

      Right on Brother, we will stand with you until every colonial pawn and the entire colonial apparatus has been dismantled. There is only one thing we detest more than people with fancy monikers, that is the people’s popular front of Judea!

    • Pipetopipe bushman says:

      Independence from idiots?
      Jeez, where are you going to put everyone and where will the 300 that are left work?

  13. Anonymous says:

    Bring it on!

  14. Anonymous says:

    May the Good Lord be with you Mr.Taylor. The good part is that Cayman should be forever thankful to every soul on the face of this earth who DID have a part in removing bush and the udp from their position and hell bent intention to completely destroy this country.

    • Anonymous says:

      Mr. Mac was found not guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers. Get over it and note that the government will pay. So you agree with the conspiracy to remove a duly elected Premier from Office. You are just a hater and have the nerve to be calling upon the Lord!

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