Put away your ego and step aside, Mr Bush
The barbarians are at the gates of Cayman. But they are inside the gates trying to keep them closed to the righteous advocates of democracy and good governance. Caymanian nationalism is the latest pawn in this game of political control and backside protection that has been going on for the last several years. Suddenly it is un-Caymanian and unpatriotic to call for the Premier to step down because it happens to also be what England would think is right.
Some mischievous Englishman at the FCO caused the Premier to draft, sign and fax a letter to Stan Thomas demanding a payment of the balance of $350,000 for apparently accomplishing a rezoning of property on West Bay Beach. Some mischievous Englishman at the FCO set him up by having one of his associates illegally import enough explosives to take down half of George Town and he unwittingly involved himself by apparently ordering the release of the explosives, despite the serious nature of the offence involved! And some mischievous Englishman concocted some complicated circumstances which formed the basis for some other investigation of “financial irregularities”!
So the story goes that it is some English agenda, some English conspiracy, against the Premier, all cleverly orchestrated by the FCO. Clearly the English want to have Cayman fail and become another Turks and Caicos. They want to be stuck with a bitter pill three times the size of the one they had to swallow with TCI and a liability to guarantee of $1.5 billion. And they are committed to this objective because they don’t like McKeeva Bush and simply want to get at him? I am sure Mr Bush thinks that highly of himself but I can assure you that a country dealing with their own economic problems of a double dip recession in the midst of a political and sovereign debt crisis in Europe has more important issues to focus on.
Why is it that a country of intelligent people should accept any of the nonsense described above? It is completely illogical and defies belief. In the absence of an Arden McLean approach to immediately clear one’s name, you must blame someone else. Who better to point the finger at than the usual English boogeyman that despots of other current and former British territories have held up as a distraction to conceal their behavior and give the people someone else to direct their ire at?
Mr Bush is the subject of three separate criminal investigations, one of which involves the illegal importation of enough explosives to take down the whole of Camana Bay. And he maintains that there is no reason for him to step aside until the investigations are complete? Let me list some reasons why he must do that which any adult would comprehend:
- Avoid or minimise the reputational harm to the country
- Minimise or eliminate the potential that the Premier could use his office to intimidate or pressure witnessescompromise evidence
- Minimise or eliminate the potential that the authority of the Premier could be used to
- Minimise or eliminate the potential that the Premier could intimidate the investigators
- Minimise or remove the potential that the Premier could generally interfere with the investigation
- Ensure that the investigation can be conducted fairly and completely
- Demonstrate that the Premier is not above the law in any way and is treated the same as anyone else in the eyes of the law
It is important to note that for the things under his control it is the possibility that it could happen and not just the likelihood that it would happen that is important. I am not suggesting that the Premier would necessarily do some or any of these things.
Imagine that the Commissioner of Police was the subject of these criminal investigations and not Mr Bush. Who do you think would be out there screaming vitriol against the Commissioner and demanding that the Governor immediately remove him despite his protests of innocence? He would say it just wouldn’t be right and it is incomprehensible that he could remain in office and expect an investigation to be carried out fairly, and anyway the Commissioner is not above the law and there is no way he deserves to be treated differently than any young civil servant facing such an investigation. If that was Mr Bush, he would be right. But of course his “substance over form” approach and his value of himself is such that the rules are what he says they are and he says they don’t apply to him, and his colleagues all follow the Deputy’s lead and curtsey in agreement.
The constitution does not have a provision to cause the Premier to resign or step aside in the face of criminal investigations because it assumes that the person holding such a post will be a man amongst men, possessed of a degree of honour and capacity to immediately recognise what the appropriate course of action would be. It assumes that he would immediately step down to avoid damage to his office and his country. There is a presumed back up if that assumption should prove flawed. The other leaders of the country should surely be capable of summoning the necessary degree of honour and strength to cause the Premier to be removed either permanently or temporarily in the best interest of the country where he is too weak as a leader to do so himself.
We appear to have had one question answered and will have to wait and see whether the rest are equally weak or if they do indeed possesses the honour and strength to put aside self-interest and shoulder the interests of the Country.
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I read many comments and I
I read many comments and I agre mostly with Wayne and know him personally but a man (woman), a citizen, is innocent until proven guitly, period! Not filinjg the propper paper work for importation of dynamite is a simple mistake any of us could have made, not a criminal offense. Mac will not step down and while I support Wayne's comments mostly, I do not agree that Mav should step down. Stand up like a man Mac like I know you will!
Ordering a public official to
Ordering a public official to act otherwise than in accordance with the law and their duties IS a criminal offence. It's called misconduct in office, and it's at the root of all three of these investigations. Mac continues to fall foul of it because he cannot grasp that rules are rules and you fools have elected him so many times in spite of so many transgressions against the conscience of this country that he no longer recognises himself as bound by the law. He thinks he IS the Cayman Islands, so he honestly doesn't see the problem. Do you understand?
I write under the name of
Mr. Panton and the CBA indeed
Understand that its is for
Understand that its is for the same reason that Bush will not volunteer to step down. Not everyone thinks wrong is WRONG.
How smart you are trying to
How smart you are trying to be, trying to drag status grants into this. Sounds like you yourself have an axe to grind - were you one of the status recipients? Stick to the topic at hand, will you, namely the 3 police investigations into the Premier and stop with the red herrings and the rhetoric. This is too serious a time for this country for idiots like you to try and cloud the issue with nonsense that is not relevant to the topic at hand.
Wayne, I fully endorse
Wayne,
I fully endorse everything that you have said, and I was wondering if perhaps you could enlighten us on what the fallout might be if the Premier is found guilty?
Rather than beat about the bush, no pun intended, I am curious as to the implications of the Premier being found guilty. Like many others, I do NOT see any logical explanation for the fax to Stan Thomas, but I would be happy (for all involved) to be wrong on that issue.
How does this affect the ForCayman Alliance, Cayman Enterprise City, Shetty Hospital, New Cruiseship Piers, etc?
IF, and that's a big IF, as we are prone to saying in Cayman, McKeeva demanded money from Stan Thomas for Cabinet approval of a process, does it not seem logical that he would have done the same with all the other deals?
How will the public view all of the other "investments" that are taking place right now? Will they all come forward with clean hands and pure hearts to tell the public that nothing untoward took place during their negotiations?
Also, doesn't it seem likely that any potential investors waiting in the wings would hold off on any investment until the Premier is exonerated?
One final thing that upsets me is the fact that in October 2004 I would rise with the dawn and go to bed in the fading light, sleeping in a badly damaged house with no electricity or water, but feeling good that I had spent the entire day trying to get my country and my own house back in order. IF, instead of trying to rebuild the country as many of his supporters claim, McKeeva was using the government fax and other resources at that same time to line his own pockets that would be unforgivable.
Chris/Firery/Another
Chris/Firery/Another lawyer/whoever.....
This may well be an exercise in futility but I would like to repeat that this is not an issue of whether he is guilty or innocent - he is in fact innocent until proven guilty.
This is not an issue of whether he does or does not deserve due process - clearly he does just like any other private citizen.
Neither is it a question of whether there is evidence - though without a doubt there is and to deny what is in the public domain on the first one and to suggest that investigations are conducted for years without any is ludicrous.
This is simply about putting the interest of the country first and avoiding or minimising jurisdictional damage, concerns about a fair investigation, the potential for interference in the investigation, respecting the traditions and protocol for these situations and yes demonstrating that there is no double standard compared to civil servants of a lower rank!
Dont bother to try to draw a distinction that they are employees and he is not. In that case he would need to give back 26 years worth of salary to help plug the budget deficit!
If advocating stepping down in this extraordinary situation is not fair to Mr Bush then neither is putting civil servants on required leave or suspension pending investigations in which they are suspected of wrongdoing. I dont see any of you arguing against that.
As for the argument that it will be damaging for him to step down now, plug this into your risk management equation. Suppose 12 months from now there is a very public trial and the Premier having been charged with multiple offences, is found guilty after having refused to step down and after having his entire UDP Government committed to proclaiming his innocence. Please advise which one would be worse for the country.
One other point is in relation to the concept of a charge being brought versus an investigation. Once a charge is brought there are consequences re civil liberties and personal freedoms which are highly relevant. There are statutory protections to ensure that charges are resolved as quickly as possible through proceeding with a prosecution with all due process or charges being dropped if it appears that they cant be successfuly prosecuted or indeed it becomes clear that "someone else done it"!
On the other hand there are few if any of those imperatives for an investigation. The police have to do their job and as long as they have a reasonable basis to pursue it they should. Sometimes they take years before investigations are closed or resolved. I wouldnt be surprised if some are never closed because they have some evidence but not sufficient evidence to meet the burden of prooof beyond a reasonable doubt but there is a determination and a hope that one day they will.
If there was a murder investigation and the police rushed through it and got of conviction of what turns out later to be the wrong person or they make a mistake and cause someone widely believed to be guilty to beat the charge, many in society would be highly critical if not enraged.
Our system of criminal justice is a deliberate process with rules and procedures which require everyone involved to take their time and do their best to get it right starting with the investigations.If any of you were unfortunate enough to be the family of a victim of crime I really doubt that you would be advocating rushing or closing the investigation because the feelings of someone to whom the evidence pointed might be hurt or that their reputation was being harmed no matter how much they protested that it wasnt fair.
Panton: "clearly he does
Panton: "clearly he does just like any other private citizen." The problem is Panton, Mckeeva is not "like any other private citizen"! I and thousands others voted for him! Why should someone like you and few others take him out because of an investigation? PLEASE LEAVE THAT TO THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE!
Actually "the people" did not
Actually "the people" did not vote for him to be Premier. You only voted him in as an MLA. If he stepped down as Premier he would remain an MLA. That destroys your entire argument.
No it doesn't... without the
No it doesn't... without the people's vote, he wouldn't have had the sly chance of becoming Premier. The commenter's argument still holds water!
That is entirely besides the
That is entirely besides the point. The point is that the people's vote cannot be a reason for him not standing down as Premier since the people did not elect him to that office. They elected him as MLA and he would remain an MLA.
Wow. You actually believe
Well said, Wayne.
Well said, Wayne.
As a lawyer yourself, do you
As a lawyer yourself, do you really think that your article here is a fair one?
Suppose McKeeva Bush came to you and asked you to be his lawyer in this matter, would you give him the benefit of the doubt that he is "innocent until proven guilty"?
Would you not inquire for evidence against your client?
As a lawyer with your reputation, I would certainly hope such principles to you are of upmost importance, because I can't see how you could ask someone who has been democratically elected by the people to step down.
Your argument is not a fair one, Wayne.
I don't think that wayne is
I don't think that wayne is anylonger a practicing lawyer..
Bush is not being
Bush is not being incarcerated or fined for being under investigation. In fact it sure would seem that he is not being investigated at all. The problem is he has put himself in a position of "no confidence" by not answering ANY questions relating to his actions while in office. Does he work for the people of Cayman or himself? Or are you hunting for some work?
Wayne, you are appealing to
Wayne, you are appealing to someone who never had any values for anything or anyone else but himself.
The entire House took an Oath
The entire House took an Oath of Office, including the Hon Speaker and Premier. Status quo is not in the best interests of the territory. Step aside.
The way we criticize our own
The way we criticize our own people.
What a shame.
The reason you have to
The reason you have to criticize your own people is a shame.
I do not understand a
I do not understand a mentality that suggests we should never criticize someone, no matter how wrong they may be, because they are one of "our own people".
Criticizing someone unfairly is different.
Well I for one am not so dumb
Well I for one am not so dumb to not know that if someone criticize you without any evidence, it is an unfair criticism.
There is evidence. Take your
There is evidence. Take your head out of the sand.
And how do you know
And how do you know this statement is coming from one of our own?
Acutally I think to have the
Acutally I think to have the Premier step down is not sufficient as there is an entire party that stands behind him silently. It just shows you that the UDP is not a party - it is a one man show run by a very selfish bully!
Any party with any sort of common sense, ethics, morals, values and love for country would urge their partly leader to step aside.
Clearly, for the UDP, this is not about the country or their country men. This is all just about ego and some people trying to keep their well paid jobs, no matter what the cause.
Wayne, If the police, or the
Wayne, If the police, or the governor/UK/FCO which many seem the think are the holy trinity, had real evidence of illegal activity on Mr. Bush for ANY of these 3 investigations, dont you think they would have brought charges by now in keeping with their responsibility of good governance??
Mr. Bush, please pledge your full cooperation and Police Commisioner Baines please do your job and question the Premier. Then decide QUICKLY if you have real hard evidence and press charges and if you dont, just drop the investigations.
When a civil servant is under
When a civil servant is under investigation (and not yet charged with anything) they are put on leave pending the outcome of the investigation. I remember in the news recently where an Immigration Officer was on leave for over a year pending an investigation and recently started back work as he was cleared of any wrong doing.....Can someone explain to me how this is any different from the investigation(S) (Three Investigations) ongoing into the Premier?
that's a civil servant that
that's a civil servant that hasn't been elected by the people - but appointed. There is a big difference. If you are elected by the people, it is only by the "will" of the people that you should be removed, not by opposition members.
It is a convention all over
It is a convention all over the British Commonwealth that if a Government Minister is under criminal investigation the proper thing to do is to step aside until the investigation is completed. There are many examples, not least of which is McKeeva's own precedent when as ExCo member he was forced to resign from Cabinet in 1997/98.
We do not tend to look at Jamaica as the best example of good governance but even there former Prime Minister Bruce Golding knew when it was time to resign even though he was not charged with anything. Then late last year, the Chairman of the Jamaica JLP and Transport and Works Minister Mike Henry resigned from the Cabinet over allegations that his ministry has mismanaged a sprawling $400 million road program financed by China and being built by China Harbour Engineering Company Ltd.when the Contractor General decided to investigate the matter.
Britain's defense minister Liam Fox quit his post last year after days of allegations about the influence-peddling of a close personal friend.Then there was the case of David Laws, Chief Secretary to the Treasury who the Daily Standard revealed who had claimed more than £40,000 on his expenses in the form of second home costs, from 2004 to late 2009 and referred the matter himself to the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards and resigned from office.
These are men who although elected by the people and hold high office know what the decent and honourable thing to do when embroiled in investigations into serious matters.
Yeah, people with class know
Yeah, people with class know when to step aside and resign gracefully while in the midst of controversy and alleged irregularities and investigations. "People with class" being the operative word here.
Mr. Wayne Panton Note that
Mr. Wayne Panton
Note that these unsupported allegations against the Premier "do not" provide us proof of an investigation into serious matters, without further evidence to back them up. You should know this as a lawyer. To be honest, McKeeva Bush stepping down now as Cayman's first premiere would do more damage in international reputation for the Cayman Islands than any unsubstantiated allegations of misconduct being investigated by the RCIPS is currently doing. What it would indicate is a failed constitutional exercise in which the continuing of the constitutional development for Cayman would be seriously compromised, seeing that the 2009 Constitution was not a well-thought out and conducted process to start with between the PPM party and Foreign and Commonwealth Office.
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You are quite wrong. What it
What unsupported allegations
We know that the Premier is
We know that the Premier is the subject of three criminal investigations. We have had a lot of discussion on the issue of whether the Premier should step down until the investigations are resolved one way or the other. Clearly the provisions of the Constitution which may be relevant to this extraordinary situation will be important to understand. So let us summarise the position:
Investigation
There is nothing in the Constitution which requires the Premier to step down.
Charged
Similarly, there is nothing in the Constitution which requires the Premier to step down.
Conviction and Sentence
Here is where it gets interesting. If the Premier is convicted of any offence, except in the case of a conviction for an offence involving dishonesty, the effect of that depends on what the ultimate sentence is in respect of that conviction.
If the sentence is for a period of 12 months imprisonment or more, whether suspended or not, he would be disqualified by Section 62 and 63 of the Constitution from being a Member of the Legislative Assembly. He would therefore have to vacate all offices he currently holds and would be barred from holding future office.
If he is convicted of any offence involving dishonesty, irrespective of what the sentence is, he will be disqualified from being a Member of the Legislative Assembly and similarly barred from holding future office.
An offence involving dishonesty is therefore viewed as a more serious offence so that even if the sentence is for a month which is suspended, there is a disqualification.
Any offence involving "financial irregularities" will almost certainly involve dishonesty.
Westminister Model and its traditions
There are a number of traditions that have developed over hundreds of years which reflects honour, statesmanship and the best interests of the country.
There are specific traditions which are relevant to situations involving politicians being investigated or charged in matters involving wrongdoing.
One of those traditions is that to protect the offices which they hold they step aside temporarily or place their resignations on the altar of public scrutiny and accountability.
In fact, the Commonwealth is replete with good examples of what men of honour do when they find themselves embroiled in controversies that call into question their credibility and ability to execute their public duty in a responsible and transparent manner. The impetus for that is that much the greater in this case where there is not one but three separate criminal investigations involved.
Mr Panton, I really hope more
Mr Panton, I really hope more people see this distinction.
I have asked talk show hosts, commentators to acknowledge the importance of honour and respect for conventions necessary for good governance and respect of the constitution.
On a local talk show today a lady claimed to have left Ja and regret what happened to her country after it became independent. She stated her concerns for the future of Cayman especially due to corruption and attitudes of many immigrants. I agree with her sentiments and concerns and see a similarity with other island nations after becoming independent.
In my opinion, a lack of maturity regarding respect and honour for conventions, traditions and rule of law at a fundamental level is one of the issues that can seriously undermine the respect for our legal system. We have to be able to address the application of rules and laws without favour for a person in order to maintain the level of dignity we expect for certain positions and offices.
We block the roads and occupy
We block the roads and occupy the LA before we let the British and expats take our Premier away. I call on all Christian people to stand up to this bullying of our Premier and his Godly supporters. We elected McKeeva and we in West Bay support him 10000%!
And your getting just what
And your getting just what you deserve. Don't worry. The UK will take over after all the Money and jobs are gone. Soon come. P.S. Who will you be working for after the CIG runs out of money and credibility? Caymanians or expats?
Truth the truth is your house
Truth the truth is your house will have to house us all, think about it
Iol... agree with you that
Iol... agree with you that the Premier should not step down although you are attempting to portray a UDP supporter in a negative light.
Although Bush's stepping
Although Bush's stepping aside should only be regarded as common sense it is not the only here. Neither is whether or not the FCO or some other entity is fabricating a story or stirring the pot. What is more important for us to realize is that all of the above have agendas which we are not party to. Now comes the time for us all to sit back, consider and connect dots. Is the UK really interested in "good governance?" How do they define that? Ghosts of the Chagos Islands, anyone? More to the point, do our elected representatives both here and in the UK lack needed credibility,honesty. And integrity? Witness the scandals surrounding UK parlimentarians pilfering public funds with bogus expenses and housing allowances. And...our own XXXXX. Frankly, I don't believe nor do I trust any of them, so arguing whether the UK, some other party or other political agenda is behind this latest scandal is entirely irrelevant from that perspective. Politics as we know it and suffer under does not work. For us anyway. It is closer to organized crime.
I believe that "You dont have
I believe that "You dont have to attend every argument you're invited to" and I do not attend political arguments, as I can't vouch for anyone. Having said that -
Why isn't there a push for these investigations to be fast-tracked and resolved - i.e. guilty or not guilty. I have the feeling that a lot of the "cryers" for the Premier to step down want him to step down, and want the investigations to drag on into next year's elections, thus probably disqualifying him to run for office. I don't know - maybe it's just me.
I totally disagree with the
I totally disagree with the calls for a rushed investigation. In fairness to the Premier and to our country the investigation of the three cases allegedly against the Premier must be carried out carefully and professionally otherwise the results could go against the country as easily as it could go against him, if something is missed. I am sure that the police commissioner has been told by the governor to have this dealt with as expeditiously as possible and I would suggest that everyone should wait and allow the investigation to be carried out and justice to be done.
The investigations would not
The investigations would not disqualify him, but a conviction would. His opponents want this over as soon as possible and not to drag on into next year.
19; 38 That is pure
19; 38
That is pure rubbish. of course that is why they want him to step down. Each of you are so desparate to get him out of the way. you and all who wants him to step down, know the investigation will drag on untill next election.
Then you all will cry, that he is disqualified from running for office...nice try though! but he is not going to step down. The silent majority are behind him all the way, to hold his post. Don't let the small amount thumb downs fool you.
You are letting your emotions
You are letting your emotions overcome your reasoning. Under the Constitution you are only disqualified if you are convicted of an offence which is either an offence involving dishonesty or results in a term of imprisonment (including a suspended sentence) of at least one year. You are not disqualified from running for office simply because you are being investigated. There is no room for any argument to the contrary. For the Opposition, who clearly believes he is guilty, it would be much better if the investigation is completed quickly, McKeeva charged and convicted than for the investigation to continue into next year past the elections. They are quite aware that there are people like yourself who will continue to vote for him no matter how many or how serious the investigations or the charges brought. If he is innocent McKeeva should also want it to completed speedily and should offer all of his assistance to the police to do so. It should be unthinkable for him to rely upon advice that he should not say anything about the letter. Clearly his lawyer thinks he might incriminate himself if he speaks about it.
I would think that it is
I would think that it is advantageous to the Premier's to have the investigation drag on rather than the "cryers".
The Premier can run for office whilst he is under investigation, but he cannot run for office if convicted of a crime and sentenced to a year in jail.
5 of those reasons are one
5 of those reasons are one and the same, just cleverly worded a teeny bit differently.
The bottom line is simply
The bottom line is simply that the powers currently behind this push have not proven themselves as worthy of our respect or trust in such matters.
No amount of nicely crafted words could ever negate that fact.
The UK / FCO / RCIPS need to demonstrate more faith in their "investigations" and the legal process.
At the moment, all we know is that "someone" is looking into the affairs of the Premier of the Cayman Islands. However, the Premier has not been contacted or notified regarding these "investigations" - much less charged.
In addition to UK / FCO scandals relating to this country itself, let us not forget that the last individual to head up the FCO had a fetish for posting naked photos of himself as he cruised for "dates" on homosexual dating websites - as an elected Member of Parliament. Clearly a sound and responsible person, right? (Calm down, that was not a "homophobic attack" - just stating the facts.)
Who knows, it could be another head at the FCO that considers people like those that make up the majority of the Cayman Islands as monkeys and apes not worthy of respect or even their homeland for that matter. (Regardless, he could still look forward to being awarded the highest merit in British society as was the last one.)
It appears to be quite the cricus within that establishment and frankly, it could be any nutjob with an axe to grind behind these "investigations".
However, it is rather interesting that some of us are willing to disregard all of the above and in the absence of due process bow heads to such entities.
Again I say, either charge the Premier of the Cayman Islands or kindly wrap up whatever (2 years +) game it is you are playing.
- Whodatis
*By the way, was Tony Blair not "investigated" while in office of British Prime Minister as his illegal war / invasion-for-monetary-gain-on-behalf-of-my-rich-friends raged on - albeit a whitewash? Did Blair "step aside" in the face of worldwide grassroot and international diplomatic protest and condemnation? I guess the office of Premier of the Cayman Islands would be more secure killing hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.
Honestly, who is supposed to take these people seriously today?
Tony Blair DID resign, in
Tony Blair DID resign, in June 2007, bowing to pressure from his own party as a result of low approval ratings related to the controversies you mention and others. ???
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