Stop the work permit abuse!
A common argument now adays from Johnny's come Here Lately is that our local educated citizens should be linedup to accept a blue collar job from their list they have made up for us to follow! Conveniently,This maybe somewhat morally right to some but it definitely falls into the slot of being politically incorrect. The disenfranchise of Caymanians has not evolved from good governance and comprehensive fiscal short term nor long term planning. Instead this is a deliberate act of intent that has been planned by the powers that be over the past l0 years, where people working for a few pennies on the dollar are being exploited and Caymanians abandoned and abused to the core.
The government including the governor and our elected officials are to blame and has failed the people sorrowfully. How can a governor seconded to this country listen to the complaints from our people on a daily basis, spend two or three years in our midst, suddenly “Extends his tenure” and HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO ADDRESS OF SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF UNEMPLOYMENT IN THIS COUNTRY? What will we remember him for when he leaves? I am still left to wonder?
At the same time work permit holders are sitting in jobs that Caymanians are duly qualified for, especially the entry level positions in a our financial industry of a fiscal setting such as bank tellers, office managers corporate executives, etc. Our young people have always filled the positions of bank tellers. This is news to all of us that we now have expats filling bank teller positions. Caymanians are born bankers. Those positions belong to our young people who want to train on the job as bankers in those entry level positions! It belongs to them.
Not only are our entry level young men and women being denied jobs they have always traditionally held but even our highly educated people are being denied managerial and corporate positions that traditionally has always been filled by Caymanians.
The government is to blame for not conducting proper and comprehensive fiscal planning for the short and long term. They have neglected this economic and social issue because selling work permits has made it quite easy for them to ignore the problem and they continue to act immune and insensitive to the needs of our people who are devastated, embarrassed, poverty stricken and living in a hopeless situation.
The present system that “STINKS” is designed to make money off work permits and that is the beginning and the end of the sad story.
The current system is responsible for this crime being committed against humanity in our very midst and it should be addressed, called out, confronted, and eradicated from our midst. We have elected three lawyers, an Economist, and several businessmen and women to our legislature who have served 12 to 30 years almost!
There is no earthly reason why these educated minds cannot draft an economic plan that will address the employment situation in this country. They refuse to do so because the work permit sales is an easy source of revenue for government. It has cost the Caymanian people their jobs, job opportunity, dignity and integrity and consequently our lives, as we live in a very unsafe environment reaping high crime as a result of government negligence .
I recommend that expats and Caymanians come together to resolve their labor issues just like blacks and whites marched together in the l960's with Dr. King to free blacks from racial oppression and segregation, some of them even lost their lives doing so. I do not believe we need to lose our lives, but we must come together to confront government on all issues on the right left and center.
We are now a socially and economically segregated country where Caymanians are being treated different from foreigners. Foreigners are granted job opportunity whereas Caymanians are denied. Foreigners are working under some very bad conditions that could be labeled as slave labor with very low pay wage Why not come together fight this demon and compel government to make life easier for all of us.
Of course this would mean cutting back on the number of work permits we really do not need, and force government to seek out more honest revenue from the financial industry as they should. It is pure ignorance and lack of good conscience why they have not already done so. It is an open show of weakness and shame that our government boasting a global player in investment can not raise the revenues from the very industry that is making investors rich in our very midst.
Where are the brains we thought we elected. We should not have these kinds of problems. They should not exist. After all we are one of the leading financial centers of the world ...right?
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Caymanians the problem
Caymanians the problem started with you.The solution should also start with you.It is you that started the submission of work permits not the goverment. So just THINK AND STOP!
After all we are one of the
After all we are one of the leading financial centers of the world ...right?
WRONG!!!!
XXXXXX Contrary to the over inflated Caymanian opinion of their own importance, the Cayman Islands DO NOT feature on the two main indexes above.In regard to bank tellers and the lunatic notion that Caymanians are 'born bankers', REALLY, have you been into the banks on this island and dealt with the Caymanian tellers? They are at best slow and at worst totally incompetant, they are often rude, arrogant and completely impotent in regard to problem resolution, of which there are many.
Perhaps if you look around the world you would see that bank tellers are a thing of the past, most large banks now utilise ATM machines inside the bank to do the same job. Many more have chosen to operate from call centres and the internet, making tellers redundant. So, you keep believing that you are gods gift to the banking world, because the world is moving on and leaving you behind.
I am an expat who worked in
I am an expat who worked in Cayman for nine wonderful years.
I dealt exclusively with Caymanian bank tellers and found them to be professional in all respects.
What a crock of Bull
Alot of Caymanians work hard, but they have to kiss ass to get ahead. All the companies including Caymanian owned want foreigners. They spend more and pay them more which is so unfair. They are only here for the money this is our Island. We the people are to blame. Time is the master....
'This is our island', yes,
'This is our island', yes, and what a mess you're making of it, all on your own. Considering that a Caymanian is actually a mixed race and cultural diverse individual, whose lineage must by definition be 'foreign'. You are basically spouting racist bigotry that should have no place in the civilised world.
Where do you think your family originates from and why do you think your ancestors came here, for the weather? Not only are you ignorant of your own history and your country's foundation, but you are also, typically, a whinging isolationist with a huge chip on their shoulder.
Hire a Caymanian, and if they
Hi 22:07 Hire an X-pat and
Hi 22:07
Hire an X-pat and they better show up for work or their work permit will be cancelled!!!
It's not that you are any more valuable to an employer than the Caymanian its that you are more VULNERABLE and entrapped!
You better perform to excellence or get the boot, not just out the job but away from Cayman!
So this foolish notion that a workpermit holder is a more valuable employee is just a lot of Bull, the hiring conditions are different and you wish you had the liberty of the Caymanian who can boot their employer to the curb at any given time!
It's all about jealousy. Why don't you go home and perhaps you can do just what the Caymanians are doing It happens all over the world deary, There's nothing new under the sun.
Tell us how they break and
Tell us how they break and misplace our belongings.
Give away our food and soap powder to their friends and family
who sometimes visit in the Church bus when we are at work.
Talk our buisness to their friends, leaving us vulnerable to breakins etc.
What are you doing here if you think so little of Caymanians, do you want or have status,
better than home eh.
I bet we cannot get a job in your country, like you can here!
Of course you can't get a job
Yawn, pass the self-pity
Yawn, pass the self-pity pot. If you listen carefully you can hear the whine of a thousand tiny violins.
Caymanian unemployment is a
Caymanian unemployment is a myth. If somone wants a job there are plenty available unless they are a criminal, a drunk or a junkie.
Most employers I know are
Most employers I know are continually on the lookout for good Caymanian employees and will always hire one if the opportunity arises. However, because of the protected status of Caymanians once they are employed, employers have to be careful to make sure that they are not going to saddle themselves with a legacy employee who adds no value and can't be terminated.
This is pure B#####t, all an
This is pure B#####t, all an employer have to do is document in writing
3 times to the employee their dissatisfaction with their performance,
offer them guidance if they will accept it on how to meet the requirements of the job.
If they do not fulfill the J. D. within a given time they are done.
There are reasons why bad employers do not have documentation on their employees.
Here are some.
The problem we have here is too many employers do not want to fulfill
their side of the contract, no medical, no pension, do not pay on time
and payment in most times are less than the amount owed, refuse to pay overtime etc, etc.
Yes we have layabouts, but the majority of Caymanians are hard working honest individuals.
What say ye?
If the vast majority of us are so bad!. When are you leaving, why did you stay so long?
'The problem we have here is
'The problem we have here is too many employers do not want to fulfill their side of the contract, no medical, no pension, do not pay on time'. And there is your problem, as most businesses that indulge in such behaviour are Caymanian owned, how do you equate that with your argument?
The empire is falling and the
The empire is falling and the best thing they can do is try to get people working again as when they are all kicked out in 2013,they have to come back and live and work among us.
They will be helping themselves in helping the people as well. People will not forget the suffering inflicted on people by this UDP regime.
ALL employers are Caymanian
ALL employers are Caymanian employers.
Whilst I don't deny there are
Whilst I don't deny there are certain employers, including Caymanian employers who do indeed abuse the work permit system, and that there need to be more rigorous methods to ascertain every effort was made to employ a Caymanian. You can point your finger at these unscrupulous employers and the government (who the UK granted the right, to a large extent, to self-govern the Cayman Islands) but you should leave the Governor out of your accusations as he only retains responsibility for the civil service, defence, external affairs and internal security. I also disagree that the role of "office manager" is an entry level position.
11:44 Your great command to"
11:44 Your great command to" leave the governor out of this" is quite a bit forward don't you think? and you also disagree that the role of "office manager" is an entry level position......tongue in cheek.
No one stated that the office manager was an entry level position because any two year old knows it is not. However mention of the managerial positions being taken by work permit holders that Caymanians are qualified to fill, as well as all other entry level positions such as bank tellers etc, is simply a ' REALITY" and not just blabbering propaganda or conspiracy theories. This situation exists in the Cayman Islands, it is now out of control and people like you are standing in the way in total denial. So happens there are people out there that think for themselves and not allow those who are trying their darndest to dominate our entire lives, to think for us.
As far as the goverrnor is concerrned, you are actually putting your own foot in your mouth, since your opinion of his responsibility includes that he retains responsibility for the civil service, defence, external affairs and internal security. We are all aware of that, In the future it would make more sense for you to think before you speak. The rise in crime in the Cayman Islands is brought about because of unemployment, and joblessness breeds 'CRIME" in any society. Our communities are NOT SAFE with people running to and fro committing the crimes that are now at an advanced stage in these islands that were once a paradise to live in. THEREFORE THE GOVERNOR IS TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE ALONG WITH OUR ELECTED GOVERNOR to do everything possible to get involved with the process of creating jobs and putting Caymanians back to work. By so doing the governor will be ensuring our 'INTERNAL SECURITY" is reinforced; and as long as joblessness exists at this high level our internal security which affects our communities, our tourism product and investment, in our society is in great danger and at the highest level of threat. THE GOVERNOR SHARES RESPONSIBILITY, YES HE DOES. YES HE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT JOBLESSNESS.
Did you learn anything today?
It's always someone elses
It's always someone elses fault isn't it? You got yourself into this mess but you don't have a clue how to get out of it. That's what happens when you allow the lunatics to run the asylum, chaos ensues.
Quoted from the
Quoted from the article:
especially the entry level positions in a our financial industry of a fiscal setting such as bank tellers, office managers corporate executives, etc
He clearly states his belief in office managers being entry level position
"Did you learn anything
"Did you learn anything today?"
I am blessed to learn something every day, and believe I will do so till my days on earth are ended, but I must confess, I learnt nothing whatsoever from your ill-informed little rant.
I will not be drawn into a protracted discussion with you however. I think we should agree to differ, but perhaps it would help if you took your foot out of your own mouth before you speak next time.
Caymanians and no one else
Caymanians and no one else should not be able to take out work permits for people they do not need as well as that they are incapable of paying a wage!
This is criminal. Government need to seek out whether immigration is granting work permits to people especially Caymanians that are doing this as a favor to their foreign friend and don't even have a job themselves! this has been going on for years its time to bust them wide open, they are the same people who complain on the talk shows every living day !
Immigration and work permit board, time to do your homework.
How can a jitter bug with no job and not even a pot to piss in or a roof over their head; put in a work permit for someone and they themselves is unemployed, homeless, starving, and definitelyi s NOT AN EMPLOYER! because they don't qualify to be one! But they are Just making room for someone to commit crime, join the gangs, litter up the place, burden our RCIP, and over populate Cayman with people that are unemployed and have taken to drug dealing, and prostitution to get by.
The Director of Labor and Immigration and Work Permit board you need to do your jobs and clean up this country of this mess and STOP THIS MADNESS!
'and no one else should not'
'and no one else should not' Is a double negative and makes no sense what so ever. No wonder this country needs educated expats.
and no one should not
Now I am really confused. I thought I saw a triple negative in that poor excuse of a sentence and cannot remember how to de-code it because my teachers were not smart enough to teach me about such things. Maybe I need to go back to school so that I can get one of those entry level corporate executive positions.
Well here's my translation:
Well here's my translation: "Only Caymanians should be prevented from taking out work permits they don't need. Ergo, everyone else can take out work permits they don't need"....er.....huh?
Contracts for every West
Contracts for every West Indian? For real?
there are many other North American people on contract that government does not need!
The private sector and government are abusing the system!
The only reason "Caymanians
The only reason "Caymanians are being treated different from foreigners" is that far too many (not by any means all) of the former display high entitlement and low productivity and most of the latter are productive because they have zero entitlement and if they are not productive they will not have their contracts (government) or work permits (private sector) renewed. It's very simple, market force stuff but the "poor us" contigent refuses to see it.
Please note that that there
Please note that that there are many 'Caymanians' by way of status demonstrating more of an entitlement attitude........ie CIG!! maj must be status holders who feel they are entitled to their fancy titles, high salaries, looking out for their own. MOst Caymanians don't have the aggressive attitude to even fight for what they're entitled to but those with the new piece of paper, at least one parent from overseas seem to be showing what having that piece of paper - Caymanian status - does entitle one to obtain.
In every country a citizen is enttiled to more than foreigners when it comes to employment opportunities and that's the way it should be. I would not expect Canda, Australia, South Africa, Jamaica, Trinidad etc etc to give me preference because I happen to even have more qualifications that one of their own. Citizens of a country have certain rights & responsibilities....period!!
Get off the rock and see how
Get off the rock and see how the real world works. The best person for the job, not best job for the person is the mantra in most 1st world countries.
"In every country a citizen
"In every country a citizen is enttiled to more than foreigners when it comes to employment opportunities and that's the way it should be. I would not expect Canda, Australia, South Africa, Jamaica, Trinidad etc etc to give me preference because I happen to even have more qualifications that one of their own. Citizens of a country have certain rights & responsibilities....period!!"
Unfortuantly in the rest of the world, or should I say in many many more advanced parts of the world qualifactions are king. For example in the UK. If you have more experience & are better qualified than me you will get the job. Doesn't matter that your Caymanian and I'm British. The best man or woman for the job gets it - as long as their visa permits it. That visa by the way could well be grated because you have been offered a job - not because a local didn't apply / wasn't suitable.
DO we really 'need' all the
DO we really 'need' all the work permits issued? hmmmm I have heard so many instances where permits are simply taken out to give friends a job or allow them to remain here to 'explore' opportunities for real employment.
In my opinion we simply have an artificially spiked labour demand situation and hence labour supply with locals looking and expats being brought in and many times not necessary for the person/organisation is so high. Complimented by unfair practices and preferences to hire 'their own' native Caymanians who are employable and seeking employment are in an unfair situation.
People need to come together and realise this artificial labour market can't be sustained, but sadly;
1. who will really have the guts to admit to friends, relatives sorry can't take out the work permit;
2. which immigration officer will use their discretionary power to refuse permits unless clear evidence of need and have the law to support this action?;
3. how many Caymanians will stop being short sighted and consider the long-term impact of relying on revenue from work permits and allow the necessary cuts in the CIG to DECREASE
duplicated services,
waste of funds on salaries on hundreds of 'managers',
and need to hire every West Indian contract worker/status holder (yes since in my opinion based on stats re makeup of CIG show they are given preference for jobs by sheer number hired ....felt free to extrapolate that opinion)?
We can't keep blaming others, if we continue to allow those with the power to make changes on behalf of these islands for sustainable growth for all, go unaccountable.
Why is it always government?
Why is it always government? What about the Caymanians taking out permits for people that they don't need?
Because if government
Because if government departments such as Immigration got their act together this practice of Caymanians taking out permits for people they don't need that you speak of, which I agree is common here in Cayman, wouldn't be allowed to take place and such permits wouldn't be approved in the first place. Or in other words, the Caymanians who do this wouldn't be able to if their permits had not been granted by the government in the first place. This is just one of the issues the Immigration Dept should be seeking to address.
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