Cayman banned for Filipino workers
(CNS): Workers from the Philippines have been banned from coming to work in the Cayman Islands by that country’s government because it says the rights of its people are not protected. The Filipino government’s employment administration has issued an order, which was published on Wednesday, listing more than forty countries where its workers would no longer be deployed. From Afghanistan to Zimbabwe, Filipino nationals are banned from working in the listed destinations until those countries improve the working conditions for its migrant workers to protect them from abuse.
The order says that "the State shall allow the deployment of overseas Filipino Workers only in countries where the rights of Filipino migrant workers are protected" and where there are existing labor laws and social laws protecting the rights of workers, including migrant workers or, among other conditions, the country has signed a bilateral agreement to protect it nationals with the government of the Philippines.
According to the new legislation, which was signed by Rosalinda Dimapilis-Baldoz, the Secretary of Labor and Employment, the country’s department of foreign affairs will now issue, through its foreign posts, certification to countries where Filipinos will be allowed to work, that specify the provisions of the receiving country's labour or social laws and policies.
The government has stated that Filipinos currently in banned countries will be allowed to remain until the end of their contracts but until the countries on the list enter into some form of agreement with the Philippines’ government or their protections are deemed to improve, no more workers will be deployed to the countries legally.
The government stated that at present 41 countries are not compliant, which includes several other overseas territories as well as the Cayman Islands. Although many of the countries listed do not employ large numbers of Filipinos, here in Cayman they make up the third largest group of imported workers and the ruling could have a significant impact.
At the end of 2010 there were 2,547 work permit holders from the Philippines in Cayman, according to the immigration website.
The country is one of the world’s major exporters of labour, with almost ten percent of its workforce going overseas and sending back remittances. But the government has been under mounting pressure to do more to protect Filipinos who work abroad. Now some critics say the new proposals could actually have the opposite effect by driving Filipinos to work illegally, with even fewer safeguards than they had before.
See order below and full list of banned countries.
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I wander why Caymanians live
I wander why Caymanians live in other countries if things are so good here?
"Wander"? Really 15:21! Well
"Wander"? Really 15:21! Well any way I will answer your question: they had to leave to get work as the jobs they would have got have been taken by the over 8000 "new" Caymanians since 2003. You asked, I answered and this is facts, like it or not so be careful what you ask as you will receive an honest answer!
"This is facts". Really?
"This is facts". Really? Please point us to the statistics that prove 8,000. Since you are dealing with facts, you should be able to tell us how many people became Caymanian in each year since 2003. This should be interesting given the political parties have changed during this period. Can't wait to hear from you.
Mac gave 3,000 + - some
Mac gave 3,000 + - some deserving, and some not. Thousands of dependants came and became Caymanian " by entitlement." many of these had no personal links to Cayman whatsoever. Then many more gained PR because of points awarded due to having a "Caymanian" relative. This still continues today. The number of persons becoming Caymanian as a result is rising exponentially. The number provided of 8,000 is conservative. It is probably closer to 12,000.
So now its 12,000? That's a
So now its 12,000? That's a 50% margin for error. It was a simple question. Your answer has provided no details, no statistics, as asked.
To your point of some deserving. If they are deserving, why are you including them in your argument?
3000 grants plus another
3000 grants plus another 6,000 as dependants (allowing an average of two each) is an immediate 9,000. About another 3,000 arises out of new children born to the 9000 over the past 8 years, marriages, and PR recipients. My math says that is 12,000.
That would be because this
That would be because this country is no longer good for Caymanians....the cost to do anything that you can think of is absurd. The only people that truly benefit from anything that this country has to offer, are the people that come here to work, live like shabs for a few years, and send all their money back home, by which means they can live like kings and queens in their own home country. They spend nothing here, they are litterally draining our country. Their government can not take them all back to their country fast enough. Dont even mention Jamaicans, thats a hopeless case...5/4s of the cayman population are already Jamaicans...this place is going to hell.
Actually if you are a
Actually if you are a Caymanian Cayman is tough to do well in. Much better to be an expat. Caymanians excel abroad.
Dis ere de best news me a ere
Dis ere de best news me a ere all year. You done know me a soon reach back!
From your command of patois,
From your command of patois, I am guessin you're not a true yardie.
Well....I'm going to invest
Well....I'm going to invest in a Chineese Or Indian Resturant now....
We already have some chinese
We already have some chinese restaurants, albeit they are staffed by filipinos disguised as chinese.
The Cayman Islands Government
The Cayman Islands Government needs to address this immediately and ensure they are removed from this listing. Being grouped with some of these other countries puts Cayman in a very negative light (whether being on the list is justified or not).
I currently employ a Filipino as our nanny and couldn't imagine seeing her being forced to leave the island. We have already purchaed a plane ticket for her to return home for a vacation in 2012 so she can visit her family, but now have concerns as to whether they will let her return to Cayman.
Additionally I am not sure we could continue to live on the island (my wife and I are both working expats), as there would be very little options left for us in terms of childcare. We are already prohibited from hiring Jamaicans and based on our experience from our original posting of this position we had no Caymanians apply.
Pack it up and come on home,
Pack it up and come on home, game's about over anyway.
Hire a Mexican, I hear
Hire a Mexican, I hear they're looking for work.
You mean to tell me not one
You mean to tell me not one of the two thousand unemployed Caymanians want to be a Nanny? Hard to believe.
They may want to be a nanny,
They may want to be a nanny, sure - but not at CI$500 a month.
Please! Filipino nannys are
Please! Filipino nannys are highly paid. On the low end salary is usually average 1000 USD and they tend not to pay housing, a vast majority get travel benefits, personal items paid for, days off monetary allowance. Most times they are 'just' nannys meaning they don't have to clean and cook, they only take care of the child in the house.
I have seen it where the employer will cook for the nanny - ok so for the whole household, but the nanny equally benefits. The employer cleaned the house while the nanny took care of the child. I'd say that is an awesome deal if you ask me.
I see variations of this on a regular basis, where the Caymanian employer will provide training courses for the nanny. Buy clothes and other items on trips abroad, if the nanny didn't accompany and if the nanny accompanied, provided an allowance to buy themselves. Buy takeout from restaurants while the employer is out having dinner, bring something especially ordered for the nanny.
The order could not be from many filipinos because the Cayman community should have known that something was going on. Cayman is a small community and gossip runs like wildfire. So if there were instances of poor treatment I would expect that it would be widely known.
I hope this does get resolved because all in all it is negative publicity.
Interesting development. I
Interesting development. I wonder if Cayman will take any of their concerns seriously?
It seems to me that the
It seems to me that the Labour Law covers all workers, Caymanian and expatriate. Similarly, the Bill of Rights will cover all persons when it comes into effect next year.
Interesting that I don't see Bermuda on that list.
One of the lessons here is that the country should not become too dependent on any one nationality. Time to look for new sources of labour. Jamaica appears to have found a supply in China.
And Jamaica is not on that
And Jamaica is not on that list either!!
Probably because no one is
Probably because no one is dumb enough to go work there?
Perhaps you should invest in
Perhaps you should invest in a dictionary.
Why? He seems to be doing
Why? He seems to be doing fine without one/the one he has.
You are so vain; maybe you
You are so vain; maybe you need to take a trip and see who are the housekeepers turning up for work in Upper St. Andrew. You need to take your dumb head out of the sand and realised that Jamaica has lots of diplomatic relationships with various countries and people from these desitnations have been residing and working in Jamaica long before they heard of the Cayman Islands, hence Jamaica would have already signed the Convention.
Why dont you people grow up and leave Jamaica alone. The Philipines Government made a decision about 20 countires and because Jamaica is not on that list; you want to mow the government down; things dont always go your way my friend; not eveyone is small minded like some of us Caymanians.
Regardless of any conventions
Regardless of any conventions it has signed I think you know that workers (both Jamaican and expatriate) have tough working conditions in Jamaica. For example, it is common to find a domestic helper paid only US$500 per month and that is in "Upper St. Andrew". Many are expected to work for 12+ hours per day without overtime pay. Many are treated as less than human and can only eat from from the leftovers after the family has eaten. On average Jamaican helpers in Cayman are treated well by comparison. You know that I am speaking the truth.
Don't fresh with Jamaica.
Don't fresh with Jamaica. Some of you people talking about Jamaica have never been there. Jamaica is different from Cayman. WE grow crops, yams, banana, coffee, oranges,tomato , potatoes escellion, tyme. We produce bauxitegypsum,limestone products.Further out tourism beat out yours by far this year and many years in the past. So food is not as expensive as in Cayman. So the person with the $500 US per montht as you say can stretch very far in our produce market. Jamaica has its dignity. you can speak your mind freely without fear of your permit being cancel. Leave Jamaica out of your argument.
"...you can speak your mind
"...you can speak your mind freely without fear of your permit being cancel".
But not necessarily without your life being cancelled. Saying the wrong thing or wearing the wrong colour clothing in Jamaica can be very hazardous to your health. And I am quite familiar with Jamaica.
Cayman may soon have to
Cayman may soon have to accept Cuban refugees just to keep the island running.
What is so different about
What is so different about the Phillipinos? I think that we are flooded out with them alraedy. They can take them all back.
Take them all back? I'm
Take them all back? I'm Caymanian and married to a beautiful Filipino woman, do you expect her to go back too?
It seems that the indentured
It seems that the indentured slaves are getting restless.
I wonder why?
Cayman is being exposed for
Cayman is being exposed for what it really is. Its unfortunate what a few ugly have done to Cayman in the name of protectionism.
Can one even imagine Immigration adopting the following policy "Do to others as you would have them do to you?" Its very sad that this concept is unacceptable to a self proclaimed Christian Country. And we wonder why there is so much division and hate.
Oh dear. Now we might have to
Oh dear. Now we might have to actually start enforcing our health insurance law and pensions law and labour law and trade and business licensing law and immigration law. Blame our government for this - dat what you get when you allow people to be abused and do not enforce our laws.
What happens when they steal
What happens when they steal out their employers? Who suffers?
But those are not migrant
But those are not migrant worker issues. It affects all of us equally.
True - but the Cayman
True - but the Cayman government is not protecting it's people, at least the Philippine government is looking out for theirs.