Woman stabbed for groceries
Posted on Wed, 10/10/2012 - 22:24 in Crime
(CNS): A 24-year-old woman was repeatedly stabbed by an armed man for her grocery shopping during a street mugging in George Town on Wednesday evening. The woman, who was taken to George Town hospital for treatment, received lacerations to her stomach, leg and left hand. Police said that the knife attack occurred at around 5:45pm as the woman walked from Courts Road to the rear of Lakeside Apartments on Esterley Tibbets Highway. The victim was approached by the suspect, who was armed with a knife and described as around 6 feet tall, slim build, light brown skin with low cut hair.
The man was wearing blue shorts and a white short-sleeved t-shirt. He spoke with a Caymanian accent.
After the attack on the woman, the man ran off with the victim’s groceries, and although police searched the area, the perpetrator was not found, an RCIPS spokesperson stated.
Anyone who has any information about the crime or the suspect should contact DS Teekel Cowans at George Town Police Station CID on 949-4222, the RCIPS tip-line on 949-7777, or Crime Stoppers 800-8477 (TIPS).
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A man matching this
A man matching this description give me the scare yesterday!!! I drove into the parking lot closest to the Butterfeild Bank down at Governor's Square and this man appeared out of no where came banging on my window trying to get me to come out of my car. He looked really scary and needy and was gazing really hard at me. He fit the profile of a mad man. I was on the phone same time with my husband and explained to him what was going on. I decided to sit still in my car until he got really tired and walked away, turned back then walked away again.
I am still shaken up a bit especially after reading what happened to this lady. I thought I'd share this and pray that everyone remain safe on these Islands.
My only question to you is
My only question to you is ....why didn't you floor the gas and drive off? I wouldn't really care if I smashed his big toe.
When I was there on holiday
When I was there on holiday in July a man came to my car window (open window- in a restaurant parking lot) and leaned in asking for money and he looked very crazed. I told him that I had no money and that I was backing out immediately. I put the car in reverse...said a prayer and backed out. I was just hoping he ran out of the way or he was getting run over, but I was not going to take a chance of him jumping in the open window or breaking the window as I attempted to close it. I have travelled to the island many times and that was the first time that had ever happened. I almost reported it, but, he moved out of the way and I was on my way. I knew he was on drugs or in need of his drug of choice, but it was unsettling to say the least.
This is not just a "Cayman issue". It was the first time I saw it on the island so whatever the reason...it has just become visable on the island. And...no, I do not believe it has anything to do with economy....I believe it is just the "sign of the times"- more drugs, harder drugs, etc.
I just came back from the
I just came back from the local corner store where a very large young man was firstly in the middle of the road, talking loudly at cars that tried to swerve out of his way. He then walked into the same small corner convenience store where I was going and proceeded to taunt and mouth off the clearly frighten cashier (a small woman all by herself). In his transaction of purchasing 2 single cigarettes, he in clear sight to me, bent over and stole a bag of limes. I think being a second woman in there and seeing such a large man, who was obviously aggitated, I, nor the cashier, was about to pick a fight with him. So, after his diatribe, whereby the read not only the label on my pants and pocket book and provided his valuation on each brand, he left the store.
From what I could gather from the frightened cashier, this man has only recently returned to the neighborhood, giving us the indication that he has probably just been released from prison. I am no psychologist, but it doesn't take much to realise that something is very wrong with this young man; who is not alone. There are many, many men around his age (I'm making an educated guess of him being in his mid 30's) that may be long time substance abusers, with criminal records and more likely than not has some form of behaviour or perrsonality disorders, such as pyschopathic personality disorder.
We also have long term drug users (crack) and now frightingly enough, I've heard that cheap meth is making its way into Cayman. Long term use of these chemical concoctions has shown in many, many studies to result in actualy brain damage. These individuals are exactly the type of person and geographic that the Government has referred to as the "unemployables" and I believe, they are probably right. The only problem is that many of these individuals may look as if they are 100 years old by their physical appearance or due to the state of their physical health, but in "real" life, they may only be between the ages of 50 to 60 - not exactly at retireable age and probably have not worked enough to obtain any form of pension.
There are also some of these same individuals that may come from decent, law abiding families that are middle to upper middle class that shoulder or carry the burden of their siblings in these conditions, doing things like feeding them or believing the countlress stories made up which are cons to fenegle money out of them, and have ended up enabling such persons simply to get them off or away from them. I have complete compassion for many families that have been trying to deal with their drug addicted and troubled family member, but enabling them has not worked, and the shame and embarrrassment never does goes away.
We think that okay, many will simply die on the street, but yet its been years, and an extreme resilency has developed throughout years of abuse and degradation. Ironically, some of these characters, will outlive you and I. Part of the disorder is that they have no remorse for their actions and the only driving force each day is obtain what they want and need for themselves at whatever the cost. I've heard the mumblings of those when I walk away from shops and refuse to buy or better yet, give away my hard earned money to someone who staulks outside an establishment waiting to harrase clients.
I wish I knew what the solution is, I think the fact , the Government has actually recognised that there really are unemployables in this country, not simply for lack of not wanting to work, but at this point and through years and years of addiction, are simple unnable to work, is a start. Once we recognise what is, is the only way we can work towards some very creative solutions, maybe more half-way houses and soup kitchens to act as grassroots beginnings to providing basic necessities, so if the basics can be had, perhaps, the rest of us citizens would not be their targets and would not have to worry about being hurt, stabbed or maimed for a bag of groceries like this poor woman was. It may very well be that these same people will be a huge population in a mental health facility that we just don't have (yet).
Until those times, we citizens have to learn not to be victims and we should not to have to end up with stab wounds for our grocercies, but I hate to say, I can see more of this coming in these very dangerous times. We are not dealing with rationale people and must learn, if nothing else, how to protect ourselves and keep out of harm's way.
You ladies need to carry a
You ladies need to carry a personal body alarm. Search it online. They are inexpensive, easy to carry and let out a screech of an alarm that will scare the **** out of someone trying to cause you harm while also bringing attention to anyone around you that someone is in danger. They are not illegal to carry.
I have chased many strangers
I have chased many strangers from Snug Harbour. I've chase homeless men living on the boats in the canal from that area. I make my presence known to all vehicles that are not from the neighbourhood I see in that area, especially in the empty lot at the top of Palm Height Drive on the By-Pass. That is a gathering place on a Friday and Saturday night that the police never check. I take the plate numbers, and look to see who is in the vehicles. Less than a month ago, I picked up a woman at 10 o'clock at night who was obviously in distress and dropped off on the by-pass and who claimed to have been assaulted by a local man and drove her home. I felt fear for the woman. I will not be intimidated in or around my own home. So beware, if you ask for a breadfruit I will share. But you step into my yard to pick a breadfruit to sell for drugs, your arm will be chopped with my machete! Since the police don't patrol that area regularly, we need a neighbour watch. I will organize it in Snug Harbour. If you are interested please email lorrie_furniss@yahoo.com. We should have all of our neightbours emails and cel numbers so we can email and text when we see someone who is not from the neighbourhood.
THIS is why we need more
THIS is why we need more gated communities for the expat population.
Another racist and offensive
Another racist and offensive comment...what makes you so special and superior that you need more protection than anyone else?
This is not racist. I have
This is not racist. I have lived in many violent third world countries that needed expat labor, and it was almost always the case that the expats were protected by gated communities, especially since they are not as aware as locals of where danger lay and were often targetted for being welathy. I would tell anyone moving here as a professional to find as secure a place to live as possible.
I am not the first poster but
I am not the first poster but that is absolutely a racist comment. The fact that you seem blissfully unaware of that fact is even more worrying.
cayman now belongs to the
cayman now belongs to the dogs thats way I would never want to live there anymore lots of other countries that are cheaper for one and alot less stressful.
Come on, residents of Cayman!
Come on, residents of Cayman! Are we really going to let this poster's words come true?? This is NOT the Cayman I know.
My heart goes out to the
My heart goes out to the lady. She might heal physically, but psychological trauma will haunt her forever. And the scars will never disappear.
How many of you visited her in the hospital, sent her flowers?
The attacker is either mentally disturbed or on drugs, or both End of discussion.
Ladies take some good advice,
Ladies take some good advice, do not walk alone on the streets unless you have a nice one and a half foot piece of PRESSURE TREATED PLYWOOD in your hand bag. You can easily get a friend or husband to smooth down one end for you. Carry a big bag, and if you are waking on the road or going to your car make sure your hand is holding unto the piece of wood while it is in the bag. When these fresh punks tries to rob you, do not hesitate to run the son-of- a gun down and give him two bitch lick any part it catch him.
Remember every one......Christmas is right around the corners, and if you were here last year and all the years back, you will know that every year this time this happens happens.
Your house, your business, your car, your boat, the dog house and the parrot cage is going to get robbed. . Be on the look out, do not relax when walking alone at nights, especially going to your cars, leaving restaurants, bars or clubs. Leaving work late. Take your piece of PRESSURE TREATED ply with you. Remember the police cannot be every where, so we will have to protect ourselves. And dont forget "BUSINESS PEOPLE, Please dont leave any notes bigger than a dollar in the cash pan.
This is pretty close to
This is pretty close to Camana Bay. We should blame Dart.
Poster 13:02 you will find a
Poster 13:02 you will find a lot of cheaper places. when you find a safer one let me know about it i will be moving too.
Try Luxembourg, Monaco,
Try Luxembourg, Monaco, Northwest Spain, Belgium, Jersey, Alderney, Sark, Guernsey, Isle of Man, Cyprus, Southern Ireland, Portugal, Northern Italy, Northern Thailand, Vietnam or Western Australia. These are only the countries that I have experience of but I am sure that there are far more out there.
Let me know when you are ready to go, I can give you some advice on where to settle.
The Isle of Man.
The Isle of Man.
Forgot to add "pleasant".
Forgot to add "pleasant".
Try the Channel Islands :)
Try the Channel Islands :)
It's a pity she didn't walk
It's a pity she didn't walk with a bat or heavy stick to beat his a$$! Trust me one of these times they are gonna try this with the wrong person. I personally would give him some ra$$ tump in his nose.
Firstly, full sympathy to the
Firstly, full sympathy to the young lady in question, with wishes for a full and speedy recovery. No one deserves anyone doing that to them, regardless of reason. No one has the right to do that to another human being.
This last weekend, on two separate days, firstly my neighbour and then I observed a man behaving very strangley in the Snug harbour area. He was in blue shorts (basketball style), a white top, light brown with straggly curly hair. He was also extremely wet following some rain, and his shorts were falling down. I am not saying it is the same person, I have no idea. But this persons behaviour was very strange. The day we saw him, he was soaking wet, standing almost in the middle of the road, trying to face away from our car as we approached him, but not moving from the middle of the road. I got the feeling he was looking to see who was in the car, and what chances he stood. I could be wrong, but you know the feeling you get which says "something wrong with this picture"? When he saw two of us, he walked away down towards North Sound, hitching his shorts up every now and again.
My neighbour observed the same guy (we compared descriptions) the previous day, also behaving strangely.
If I see him again, Police will be called for sure, and I would recognise him. In the meantime people, if you see anyone strange hanging around where you live, and you are on your own, walk or drive away and call the police. You will know this character at once, he attracts attention by trying to do exactly the opposite. Could be drugs, or mentally ill. Could think of no other reason.
Reply to 10/11.2012
Reply to 10/11.2012 13:55
I was pulling out of Snug Harbour on to the by-pass, and a man in blue basketball shorts was running VERY fast on the shoulder of the by-pass towards my car, I got vibes from him,him. I pulled out on to the by pass before he reached ny car, I looked in my rear veiw mirror and he was bent over, like he was out of breath. in the yard of the yellow duplex on Andrew drive. This was not a person out for a jog, his body language was all wrong..
I think I have seen this guy
I think I have seen this guy too, but your post is confusing. How could you see the yellow duplex on Andrew Drive in your rearview mirror AFTER you turned onto the bypass?
Well,if you are a resident of
Well,if you are a resident of snug, you will be fully aware that EVERYONE who is heading West, makes a RIGHT turn on to the by-pass, thats how I saw him in my mirror,
And, before you tell me that is llegal, I know.
End of discussion.
Just take a photo of him.
Just take a photo of him.
Also saw described person
Also saw described person above in that area earlier this week and he did seem a bit strange.
Me too. In the park down at
Me too. In the park down at the bottom of the street, hanging around in the shelter there. He seemed stoned to me...
This has nothing to do with
This has nothing to do with the economy. It has everything to do with crack.
And you think the
And you think the importation/manufacture of crack isn't embedded in the economy?
Personally don't think this
Personally don't think this was a theft for groceries - it was an attack of opportunity on a defenceless woman and taking the groceries was an easy after thought. This thug was probably high, saw an opportunity to feel powerful and took it! We as women need to take care of ourselves, we need to defend ourselves with whatever we can and learn how to physically fight back. I know pepper spray is illegal, but so are guns and knives ??? I'm a foreigner and must say I love Cayman with all my heart. My family been here 37 years and for the first time in all these years we're sadly thinking of leaving for a safer, more affordable place to live.
It is no longer illegal to
It is no longer illegal to have Pepper Spray. Check it out.
When you find that place,
When you find that place, please let me know; would like to come too!
try New Zealand
try New Zealand
My thoughts go out to the
My thoughts go out to the young lady and thankfully her injuries were not serious - however, it must have been a very scary ordeal for her.
That being said - this horrible news story reignited an idea that has been swirling around my head for a while now.
I have not the time or expertise to pull off such a proposal - but wouldn't it be interesting and hopefully helpful, to document, film and showcase the daily lives of say - 7 varied residents of the Cayman Islands in the year 2012?
This is such a small jurisdiction and with our mind-boggling variation of socioeconomic groups, amenities, nationalities, infrastructure, salaries and (un)employment realities - a film crew would never run out of stories.
Of course it would not be for entertainment purposes, as there is nothing funny about what is taking place in Cayman, but I sincerely believe that many people in Cayman (and without) have no clue as to the other person's daily struggle. This is true even within workplaces between colleagues and I am sure many can attest to this.
Such a project would go a long way in increasing understanding and (hopefully) compassion between the many different groups on-island. Furthermore, it should shed light on the system as a whole and expose areas where we have failed in the past with the aim of implementing the required improvements.
I grew up in a Cayman that was an anomaly within the typical standing of the framework of the "west" (e.g. a self-approximated 75-90% middle class). Unfortunately, we appear to be facing a situation where we are now slipping into that stereotypical categorization (and at times mindset) - in the year 2012. To me this is absolute madness.
I am reflecting on historic moments such as the Rodney King beatings / L.A. Riots and Stephen Lawrence murder / institutionally corrupted investigation - where single events were the spark in the dark to illuminate far wider and greater issues and shortcomings within the respective societies.
More and more we hear reckless talk by others around us regarding revolutions, riots or that "sumtin' ga happen soon in dis place!". Hopefully we never get to that point in Cayman.
I acknowldge that studies have been done and reports compiled, but sometimes figures and statistics on a piece of paper or just that.
Anyway, it was just a thought, perhaps someone in-the-know and connected to the relevant industry could brainstorm over the proposal if they see fit.
Best wishes to the victim for a speedy recovery. As for the perpetrator - seek help brother ... and I mean that in the most sincere way possible.
Although my belly is literally full and I understand that "a hungry man is a angry man" - such behaviour is not normal and can never be justified.
Bet you didn't grow up in
Bet you didn't grow up in Cayman.
No prob - how much you wanna'
No prob - how much you wanna' bet?
:-)
However, all joking aside - I am curious as to why you would say that?
I am not the original
I am not the original poster. Whodatis did write recently about his memories of interacting with parrots while here on vacation as a child and he told us his father is from the UK, so one could infer that he was not brought up in the Cayman Islands for the entirety of his childhood.
Lol ... how cute - another
Lol ... how cute - another one of my little stalkers.
Thank you so much for your time and attention. I guess I should be flattered ... but I'm not.
I am not so little, so I
I am not so little, so I suggest you try to steer away from your usual smug patronising tone. I am getting increasingly tired of your vacuous division flaming. I really hope you are not flattered but I don't care.
Why on earth would anyone
Why on earth would anyone give a thumbs-down to such a thoughtful and considered post? Whodatis, I have noticed that lately your posts have been more inclined to help and less inclined to humble. Ever thought of running for office?
Thank you for the fair words,
Thank you for the fair words, poster.
You are justified in your observations for as of late I have consciously ignored the usual run-of-the-mill snide remarks, no doubt by way of the most recent thumbs-downers, as it only invites negative energy into my existence.
I am steadfastly for my fellow Caymanians and a better society for all and will admit - passions do run a bit high at times.
As for running for office, I consider the suggestion as a compliment. However, as much as I care about this little country, politics is a lifestyle that greatly conflicts with my personality.
I say that because, believe it or not, although a relatively outspoken individual, I am also a private one.
Regardless, as with everything else in life, I will follow my heart and see where it leads.
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post and I am pleased that someone found it worthy.
P.S. Be careful though - you won't gain any friends here on CNS by supporting the views of Whodatis ... as you can see.
So it go.
:-)
No worries there, mate. I
No worries there, mate. I don't support ALL your views. ;0) I can, however, appreciate the differing opinions of someone who has clearly spent time and energy thinking deeply about things -- unlike some posters here and very unlike some of our most vocal politicians.
I am not the slightest bit worried about those who gave my post the thumbs-down -- and I trust you are not either. In the words of Emma Goldman, "The most unpardonable sin in society is independence of thought" -- something you are guilty of on a daily basis. No, I don't always agree with what you write, but your posts do make me think, and most importantly, they force me to remember that my own point of view is not the only one around.
You may not count me among your "fellow Caymanians" as I am a lowly "paper Caymanian", but I share your desire for a "better society". I would much rather see someone thoughtful and intelligent in office -- even someone with whom I sometimes disagreed -- than some of those who are currently "leading" this country.
Poster, I like and respect
Poster, I like and respect you without even knowing you.
You are the type of individual that I like to be around.
Your words also reminded me that I should be more mindful of how I pen and even think some of my thoughts (e.g. "fellow Caymanians" ... "lowly paper Caymanian") and to not always approach issues from a CNS-forum perspective - for that I thank you.
Have a wonderful weekend ... its been nice chatting with you.
Please put down the pipe and
Please put down the pipe and step away. No one will be harmed.
What is this programme going
What is this programme going to be called? " Horrible things crack heads do" ? In this week's episode Joe from West Bay has run out of crack. He will go and steal and rob until he has money to buy more crack. It is a bit like last week's episode. Social strata is the ordinary order. In Cayman the only unemployed Caymanian is the one that does not want a job or is too high or drunk to ever get one. Forget the self pity and let's get real.
Yes, just like some citizens
Yes, just like some citizens of every other country, there are some Caymanians who simply do not want to work, are hooked on drugs, or are simply wasting their lives - no argument there.
However, there are also many Caymanians (and expats!) that are truly suffering in this society. (However, for some reason I feel that you are not very concerned about such people - and you are entitled to your views.)
A simple example of what could be contributing to our crumbling society is the vast importation of cheap labour. Labour so cheap that it requires the worker to share a 2-person type accommodation with 7 other similarly employed (single) individuals.
How exactly is a "Caymanian" supposed to compete against that - much less raise and feed a family under such circumstances?
(Btw, this exact scenario is playing out all over the western world today.)
This reality effectively rejects the Caymanian in question before he or she even has the chance to catch a mere whiff of the job opportunity.
This is but one example.
Whodatis: We Caymanians are
Whodatis:
We Caymanians are still to blame. We employ the expats cause we can pay them less and make them work more hours. Some people don't even get paid for all of their work, have to pay their own permits and they don't have health insurance.
Hello poster, I am in
Hello poster,
I am in complete agreement with you - Caymanians are to blame for the situation. (However, in the financial / corporate industry Caymanians are less to blame as no one can say that we 'control' that any longer.)
That being said, Brits are to blame for the same situation (expat / cheap labour / high levels of unemployment) in Britain, Greeks are to blame for the same (expat / cheap labour / high levels of unemployment) situation in Greece, Spaniards are to blame for the same situation (expat / cheap labour / high levels of unemployment) in Spain ... I think by now you get my point.
Human nature has shown itself to be a predatory and opportunistic beast, hence the requirement for sound policies at an administrative / governmental level.
Unfortunately, there are not many examples where this particular, worldwide phenomenon has been safeguarded against.
Cayman is in no way an anomaly in this regard. Never forget it.
Regardless, a change in policy and a comprehensive plan to derail this speedtrain to Doomsville must be made and implemented as soon as possible.
Granted there will be outrage at the top of the pyramid and tears at the bottom - however, the turbulence will be worth it in the long run.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Yes, sure, times are tough
Yes, sure, times are tough economically. But please, people, read the story carefully. The guy stabbed the poor woman REPEATEDLY. That's not the behavior of some simple dude who just "can't find work" and needs a meal. Please. That wild irrational and animalistic behavior is coming from a lowlife crack head junkie who is needing his next fix, and isn't interested in work of any kind, even if you handed him the opportunity on a silver platter. The monstor went "off" on this woman and stabbed the poor creature repeatedly till she could have died. Was he hungry? Sure. Probably. But again -- read the report. You've got a six foot tall man, and a lone woman whose arms are loaded down with groceries. Does anyone out there honestly think if a six foot tall man armed with a knife approached a lone woman and showed her his blade and threatened her, that he couldn't have gotten every last item in her bag of groceries -- WITHOUT stabbing her even once? The point is, this isn't about the "poor economy," imho. It's a simple -- yet very very tragic -- story about a despicable drug addict who has already given himself over to his habit, and is now doing whatever he "needs" to do to fill his belly with the very food that other hardworking people have bought and paid for with their honest labor. Disgusting. May the poor lady recover soon, and may the perpetrator come to his senses and clean up his act by the grace of God.
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